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Title: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: hurricane on June 14, 2016, 05:09:28 pm
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingnews/fbi-investigating-whether-orlando-killer-was-a-club-regular/ar-AAh10Pr?ocid=spartanntp

So horrible, sorry for their loss!
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: McGarrett on June 14, 2016, 05:11:28 pm
"Gunman". Why are people so afraid of using the words "Radical islamist"?
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: Omri on June 14, 2016, 05:17:10 pm
"Gunman". Why are people so afraid of using the words "Radical islamist"?
Maybe because it had nothing to do with Islam. Quite simple.
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: AK47 on June 14, 2016, 05:20:05 pm
"Gunman". Why are people so afraid of using the words "Radical islamist"?

Maybe because it was a hatecrime towards LGBT-people and had nothing to do with Islam at all.
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: Julio. on June 14, 2016, 05:21:10 pm
We'll never truly know. Sounds like the gunman himself was gay as he had been using the app Grindr and frequented the club himself.

My thoughts are with those involved.
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: jovanca on June 14, 2016, 05:21:46 pm
No one is afraid mcgarett. They are just not stupid to do so.
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on June 14, 2016, 05:23:40 pm
Maybe because it had nothing to do with Islam. Quite simple.

He said islamist, not muslim. Islamism is indeed a large problem in the world. Quite simpler.

As for the victims...I'm not a LGBT supporter, quite the contrary, but human lives were lost and that's a tragedy.  May God be with the victims and their families.
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: TiMoN on June 14, 2016, 05:25:32 pm
Wasn't this topic locked previously for a reason?
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: McGarrett on June 14, 2016, 05:29:57 pm
People have to realize they can't put a nazi and a jew in the same room. It doesn't work. Same scenario here. The guy who shot down those in the nightclub was the son of a former presidental canditate from Afghanistan. A guy who supported Taliban. It is important that we do not avoid using the words radical islamists. We need to seperate bad from good. Avoiding doing so will create a hole in our eyes where we are unable seperate those two groups and we will also be unable to anticipate future terrorist attacks and put an end to ISIS.
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: McGarrett on June 14, 2016, 05:32:35 pm
We'll never truly know. Sounds like the gunman himself was gay as he had been using the app Grindr and frequented the club himself.

My thoughts are with those involved.

He used that app to target specific people.
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: Dizzy. on June 14, 2016, 05:33:50 pm
Wasn't this topic locked previously for a reason?

Yeah was locked.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=117002.0
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: Johan_S on June 14, 2016, 05:34:49 pm
much /pol/
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: TiMoN on June 14, 2016, 06:03:22 pm
much /pol/
it's not /pol/ until you see insults towards religions and LGBTs  :lol:
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: Omri on June 14, 2016, 06:05:27 pm
He said islamist, not muslim. Islamism is indeed a large problem in the world. Quite simpler.

As for the victims...I'm not a LGBT supporter, quite the contrary, but human lives were lost and that's a tragedy.  May God be with the victims and their families.
And your point is?`
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on June 14, 2016, 06:20:46 pm
And your point is?`

Point is people defend Islamism with the whole "not religion's fault", when it's exactly religion that pushes the radical islamists to these actions. A normal muslim knows he believes in one of many religions and that he may or may not be right. An islamist is a muslim who despises other religions and believes Islam should be the world's only religion and the non-believers must be eliminated or enslaved. :)
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: Dizzy. on June 14, 2016, 06:27:17 pm
I realised why previous topic was locked.
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: McGarrett on June 14, 2016, 06:41:07 pm
No it is not the religion that creates radical islamists. It is how specific groups of a religion sees the coran and twists it into taking action against people who do not follow their beliefs.
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: Omri on June 14, 2016, 06:58:39 pm
Point is people defend Islamism with the whole "not religion's fault", when it's exactly religion that pushes the radical islamists to these actions. A normal muslim knows he believes in one of many religions and that he may or may not be right. An islamist is a muslim who despises other religions and believes Islam should be the world's only religion and the non-believers must be eliminated or enslaved. :)

It's not the religion that pushes these radical pigs towards their horrible actions, it's their corrupted mindset.
So do you believe that this religion called Islam told him to go around and kill innoncent people?
Title: Re: Gunman killed 49 in the club
Post by: Allison on June 14, 2016, 07:03:41 pm
Until everyone realizes why we have no religious / political discussion topics, we clearly can't have topics like these either. Previous one was locked, and now this one is too.

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