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Title: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: arifaiman on June 23, 2016, 11:02:30 am: Hello guys. So as stated, loading folders on my laptop is painfully slow. I have no idea why. I've turned on indexing mode but nothing changed. This happened after I updated my W8.1. All of other things load as normal(Booting, loading game etc) but everything related to opening document, loading folder, creating new folder and searches are slower than a turtle. Any idea why?
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Kaze on June 24, 2016, 01:03:29 pm: Have you tried to defrag your HDD?
If you've updated your OS, Delete windows.old properly

All I would do before I'd make a topic :D
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Vaeldious on June 24, 2016, 01:17:44 pm: Same as Kaze, except id check the drives smart status first to check for CRC errors. Most non-SSD laptop drives have a life expectancy of 1-3 years. Defraggler is a decent freeware app (portable versions available) that checks SMART and can defrag.
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: arifaiman on June 24, 2016, 04:08:21 pm: I'll try to defrag my disk eventhough I've done it recently. As for the CRC error and windows.old, that something that I never heard of. Will give it a try. And... this laptop is turning 3 years old
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Vaeldious on June 24, 2016, 05:26:00 pm: Here, I'll help ya out :)

Download From Piriform (https://www.piriform.com/defraggler/download/portable) Portable version. Just run from ZIP file and delete when done. No install required. (Only like 4.5mb)

This is a sample of what it looks like. There will be a little pill icon labeled HEALTH. Once you click there, it will show you the Real/Threshold/Raw data. What we're specifically lookin' for are two rows, Reallocated Sector Count and Reallocation Event Count. Hopefully both these Real values are zero. There's other ways to look at the information provided by this, but for most end-users, these are the two major ones indicating cyclic redundancy (like when a record player skips and plays the same bit of music over and over...) and the most common culprit of unusual latency.
(http://i.imgur.com/PVKtEte.png)
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: arifaiman on June 24, 2016, 06:07:40 pm: @Vaeldious Thanks mate. Both of the real values are 0. I'll wait until the defrag finished to see the result.
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Vaeldious on June 24, 2016, 08:20:24 pm: Good, then we aren't dealing with a hardware related issue, leaving only software. There could also be background processes running that are eating up disk usage, TaskManager with windows is great resource in locating troublesome apps/threads causing latency. You can find this under Performance, and clicking the Resource Monitor. If nothing jumps out, try also creating a folder (or whatever steps you normally see the latency in) while viewing Resource Monitor. Indexing is another Windows feature that can be disk activity intensive, as well as malicious softwares, so a standard AV sweep, rootkit detection is advisable as well (although this does seem to be more of a Windows related issue).
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: arifaiman on June 25, 2016, 08:59:59 am: Update: I've defrag my disk, nothing changes noticably.

(http://i.cubeupload.com/VUia4i.png)
The problem that I'm having is everytime I wanted to search for something, it won't finish the searching process. Refer to the picture above.
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Vaeldious on June 25, 2016, 10:27:22 am: Searching is directly related to indexing. Go to Control Panel, (Show All Icons or w/e the applicable term is on w8/10) Indexing Options. Under Advanced you'll see the option to Rebuild Index. Keep in mind, that a search index manifest can take several hours (over 10h in some cases) to complete, depending on the number of small files on the drive. You can reduce this time by changing which folders are indexed on the main Indexing Options screen.
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: DarkPower202 on June 25, 2016, 10:48:28 am: Since i defrag my HDDs, It starting to get problems.
PC freezes for like 30-45seconds sometimes when i play games or copy some huge files. (Rarely)

Another noticeable freeze is (not freeze actually, stuttering) when i try to Update my AVG Antivirus,
Its just lags like hell for 5seconds. I'd even afraid cleaning my PC from dust sometimes, Touch the HDD and PC won't boot. What a nightmare. I had to replug the SATA wires and then check if its booted or not lol.

So I'll just say: Its your HDD that has problems. Indexing and stuffs, I don't use em too.
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Vaeldious on June 25, 2016, 11:01:42 am: Quote from: DarkPower202 on June 25, 2016, 10:48:28 am
So I'll just say: Its your HDD that has problems. Indexing and stuffs, I don't use em too.

Quote from: Vaeldious on June 24, 2016, 08:20:24 pm
Good, then we aren't dealing with a hardware related issue, leaving only software.

Your input is appreciated, but we've already eliminated bad sectors on the hard drive as your situation sounds like. This is not a Hardware issue, it is software :)
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Matt on June 25, 2016, 11:17:34 am: Wtf darksune
why is my name in l4d2?
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Janar on June 25, 2016, 12:16:23 pm: Post whole SMART result please.
How old is the hard drive/laptop?

Quote from: afmatt on June 25, 2016, 11:17:34 am
Wtf darksune
why is my name in l4d2?
Don't go off-topic. Use PM for that.
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Vaeldious on June 25, 2016, 12:23:39 pm: Quote from: Janar on June 25, 2016, 12:16:23 pm
Post whole SMART result please.

;) I know what you're getting at, Janar. Seek Error Rate or Read Error Rate, but I've never seen a correlation that didn't include failing sectors or G-Sense Impact Events. Couldn't hurt to see the whole results and have a second set of eyes on the issue, though. Seems to be indexing related to me though :)
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Janar on June 25, 2016, 02:11:45 pm: Quote from: Vaeldious on June 25, 2016, 12:23:39 pm
;) I know what you're getting at, Janar. Seek Error Rate or Read Error Rate, but I've never seen a correlation that didn't include failing sectors or G-Sense Impact Events. Couldn't hurt to see the whole results and have a second set of eyes on the issue, though. Seems to be indexing related to me though :)

Nope, actually I wish to see Current Pending Sector Count and some others as well.
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: arifaiman on June 25, 2016, 02:14:07 pm: Here is the whole SMART result(I think it is lol). The laptop and the HDD is around 3 years old. I might add that the laptop battery just died around a week ago, so I'm running on power brick only if that affects anything.

(http://i.cubeupload.com/m4LeZp.png)

Currently waiting for indexing rebuild to be finished.
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: arifaiman on June 25, 2016, 04:20:02 pm: UPDATE: Indexing fixed all of my issues. Thank you guys especially @Vaeldious . Topic may be locked.
Title: Re: Painfully slow on loading folders.
Post by: Vaeldious on June 25, 2016, 06:08:58 pm: Glad to hear, bro! :)