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Title: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: brian1996 on June 24, 2016, 12:19:41 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBakPg6x63Q
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Mikal on June 24, 2016, 12:30:45 am
I stopped buying from G2A when they kept enabling G2A Shield without my permission and charging me for it atleast 3 times, they literally made me miss a car insurance payment by taking a few quid from my bank account leaving my insurance not enough money to go through properly, my bank covered it and then charged me something like £40 even though it was only a small amount (was a couple months ago so I don't really remember), so, fuck G2A, it really is not worth the hassle.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: TheRock on June 24, 2016, 12:29:08 pm
I'm glad a Paysafe issue did not allow me to buy from there now..
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: TiMoN on June 24, 2016, 06:06:51 pm
G2A is a gray market for games bought with stolen credit cards and fraudsters, the only reason I see people using them is because they're being promoted by youtubers and streamers.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Teddy on June 26, 2016, 03:39:27 pm
As long as they work and I get cheap games, I really don't care where it came from. It's kind of like when people are like "oh my god, how can you eat that? do you know where it came from". NOPE AND PLEASE DON'T TELL ME.

I've ordered easily 20+ games from G2A and never once had a problem with any key or anything. Simply buy from someone with high rating, disable g2a shield, and you're good to go. The one time I did hit a snag was when my credit card company denied the transaction because it was "unusual" so I called and thew put it in manually.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Miku_Hatsune on June 26, 2016, 03:44:02 pm
Of all the things I didn't expect - it's this. I honestly thought G2A bought keys through publishers for a deal. Guess I was wrong. Hopefully these people get what's coming to them.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Devin on June 26, 2016, 03:51:50 pm
Of all the things I didn't expect - it's this. I honestly thought G2A bought keys through publishers for a deal. Guess I was wrong. Hopefully these people get what's coming to them.

If it was G2A that purchased keys from publishers, why would there be multiple sellers per key?  :lol:
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Teddy on June 26, 2016, 04:03:15 pm
Hopefully these people get what's coming to them.

Good luck with that; G2A is in a region that doesn't give a shit in terms of Law so they cannot be compelled to turn over any data and plus any seller worth going after (making mad profit) is going to be smart enough to cover their tracks well. These are people who spent time in the dark web and surely have learned most optimal ways of keeping anonymous even on the clear web and financially.

The only real way to stop it is for G2A to somehow validate the keys as legitimately but even that wouldn't work because usually when the keys are listed they aren't known to be stolen even by the publisher as it takes months for them to become aware. This also isn't something new, I don't get why this guy is calling out G2A, maybe he had a bad purchase experience :lol:

This is something that has been happening for ages and far beyond the gaming industry. Why people are surprised is beyond me. G2A is a shady Asian website we trust because we're saving money.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Celso on June 26, 2016, 04:33:45 pm
"oh my god, how can you eat that? do you know where it came from". NOPE AND PLEASE DON'T TELL ME.

Shit man.. Right in the feels.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: AK47 on June 26, 2016, 04:38:24 pm
As long as they work and I get cheap games, I really don't care where it came from. It's kind of like when people are like "oh my god, how can you eat that? do you know where it came from". NOPE AND PLEASE DON'T TELL ME.

I've ordered easily 20+ games from G2A and never once had a problem with any key or anything. Simply buy from someone with high rating, disable g2a shield, and you're good to go. The one time I did hit a snag was when my credit card company denied the transaction because it was "unusual" so I called and thew put it in manually.

 :app:
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Janar on June 26, 2016, 07:16:05 pm
Good luck with that; G2A is in a region that doesn't give a shit in terms of Law so they cannot be compelled to turn over any data and plus any seller worth going after (making mad profit) is going to be smart enough to cover their tracks well. These are people who spent time in the dark web and surely have learned most optimal ways of keeping anonymous even on the clear web and financially.

The only real way to stop it is for G2A to somehow validate the keys as legitimately but even that wouldn't work because usually when the keys are listed they aren't known to be stolen even by the publisher as it takes months for them to become aware. This also isn't something new, I don't get why this guy is calling out G2A, maybe he had a bad purchase experience :lol:

This is something that has been happening for ages and far beyond the gaming industry. Why people are surprised is beyond me. G2A is a shady Asian website we trust because we're saving money.

Hmm, that makes me wonder... Every time I buy something from G2A and I select Estonia as my country, a 20% VAT is added to the price. What if I select something else as my country and avoid the tax, how likely is it they would spot it and bring me trouble with it?
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: AK47 on June 26, 2016, 07:29:04 pm
Hmm, that makes me wonder... Every time I buy something from G2A and I select Estonia as my country, a 20% VAT is added to the price. What if I select something else as my country and avoid the tax, how likely is it they would spot it and bring me trouble with it?

I've done that since forever and still working for me :D
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Rusty on June 26, 2016, 07:39:34 pm
There was a thing with Ubisoft before relating to G2A, can't remember exact details but am sure it was along similar lines.  G2A probably isn't the only game key seller that is doing this I bet there are others out there who just haven't been called out on it yet.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Mang on June 26, 2016, 07:47:32 pm
Hmm, that makes me wonder... Every time I buy something from G2A and I select Estonia as my country, a 20% VAT is added to the price. What if I select something else as my country and avoid the tax, how likely is it they would spot it and bring me trouble with it?

I doubt that you want to risk a fine from the taxman just to save a few bucks.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: AK47 on June 26, 2016, 08:13:28 pm
I doubt that you want to risk a fine from the taxman just to save a few bucks.

Done it for years and I'm still fine lol

G2A probably isn't the only game key seller that is doing this I bet there are others out there who just haven't been called out on it yet.

https://www.greenmangaming.com

https://isthereanydeal.com

http://www.kinguin.net

I use those aswell, working with no issues so far
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: brian1996 on June 26, 2016, 08:24:21 pm
There was a thing with Ubisoft before relating to G2A, can't remember exact details but am sure it was along similar lines.  G2A probably isn't the only game key seller that is doing this I bet there are others out there who just haven't been called out on it yet.
Ubisoft disabled thousands of keys for Far Cry 4 since they were stolen.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: AK47 on June 26, 2016, 08:26:43 pm
Ubisoft disabled thousands of keys for Far Cry 4 since they were stolen.

Indeed, but later they re-activated alot of them due to complaints
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Rusty on June 26, 2016, 08:42:47 pm
Done it for years and I'm still fine lol

https://www.greenmangaming.com

https://isthereanydeal.com

http://www.kinguin.net

I use those aswell, working with no issues so far

http://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/

Also a good key seller, delivery for keys is instant like advertised unlike some where you have to wait a few minutes.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: MrTrane on June 26, 2016, 08:48:56 pm
https://www.gamesrocket.com is also pretty good.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Teddy on June 26, 2016, 10:49:01 pm
TECHNICALLY the keys themselves aren't stolen... just the payment details used to purchase the keys. It's really easy to buy stolen payment credentials on the dark web... like super easy. So they keys themselves aren't really stolen from the publisher... and most of the time banks do NOT after a certain period of time request the money back; they simply cover the charge and reimburse the one stupid enough to have their credentials stolen in the first place. So the publisher doesn't really always loose a lot of money. Some of the bigger one's also use payment gateways that also cover the fraudulent purchases. Trust me, these banks ain't loosing any money or sleep over this. They rob the world blind every day. The problem here isn't G2A. It's people. I shit you not, a few months I ago I was in a store and there was the lady about 50 years old on the phone reading her credit card number and security code out... just out in the open walking around looking at shit. People like that deserve to get screwed over. A lesson must be taught and learned the hard way.

If you wave a treat in front of a dog, the dog is going to get it. It's simply psychology of any species around today.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Hevar. on June 26, 2016, 10:59:53 pm
Just buy from Steam =) Play the game in 1h, if you dont like it? Then ask for refund.

btw...its summer sale now on Steam, everything is so cheap
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Teddy on June 26, 2016, 11:04:40 pm
Just buy from Steam =) Play the game in 1h, if you dont like it? Then ask for refund.

btw...its summer sale now on Steam, everything is so cheap

It's not about liking or not liking a game lol, it's about saving money to buy more games or whatever suits your need. Why pay more for something when you can pay less? It's not like it's any lesser quality. It's the same product. Stupid logic tbf.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Allison on June 26, 2016, 11:06:27 pm
As long as they work and I get cheap games, I really don't care where it came from. It's kind of like when people are like "oh my god, how can you eat that? do you know where it came from". NOPE AND PLEASE DON'T TELL ME.

I've ordered easily 20+ games from G2A and never once had a problem with any key or anything. Simply buy from someone with high rating, disable g2a shield, and you're good to go. The one time I did hit a snag was when my credit card company denied the transaction because it was "unusual" so I called and thew put it in manually.
For a while, my card wouldn't accept G2A, apparently it came up that I wasn't using my own card at the time, even though I was, and they put an international lock on it. Since removed because fuck banks, but it was weird.

As for buying games from G2A, most of my Steam library (50+ games) is from G2A. I've actually gotten things I didn't buy, but it was the same game. For example, I purchased EU4 normal edition cause I was too cheap to buy full with DLC, ended up getting all DLC with it anyway. Quite the steal.  :lol:
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: taseen11 on June 26, 2016, 11:09:25 pm
It's like torrenting, everyone does it although it is illegal. No one really cares.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Teddy on June 26, 2016, 11:16:51 pm
It's like torrenting, everyone does it although it is illegal. No one really cares.

How is buying from G2A illegal? I as the buyer am not breaking any laws. The only laws broken are by the seller... and that even depends on what country they are in. Some of them are in such shady af counties that the laws aren't meant for a modern world and technically they aren't breaking any of their own local laws.

When you torrent, you are likely directly breaking the law (depending on country ofc).
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Hevar. on June 27, 2016, 01:34:46 am
It's not about liking or not liking a game lol, it's about saving money to buy more games or whatever suits your need. Why pay more for something when you can pay less? It's not like it's any lesser quality. It's the same product. Stupid logic tbf.

Steam maybe cost more,,,,but still safe spot also you can get refund =) G2A doesn't offer that

If you buy something from G2A then you're fucked because you cant return it, but in Steam you csn =)

Sometimes i play 1,5h if i see the game is bad i just ask for the refund.
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: Teddy on June 27, 2016, 03:52:37 am
Steam maybe cost more,,,,but still safe spot also you can get refund =) G2A doesn't offer that

If you buy something from G2A then you're fucked because you cant return it, but in Steam you csn =)

Sometimes i play 1,5h if i see the game is bad i just ask for the refund.

Better idea if you are going to ,,,,,,,  use comas where they aren't ,,,,, needed but anyways here we go:

1) Buy game on Steam ,,,,,, try for one hour. Get refund  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, regardless of feels.
2) If you like it, go buy ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, it on G2A. If you don't like, rinse wash and repeat with a new,,,,, game.


I have never purchased a game that,,,,,,,,, I haven't liked though. Why? Because I don't buy a game on impulse. I have a very flawless system. First I will watch the announcement cinematic trailer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if that's interesting enough I will,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, go watch the gameplay and any subsequent trailers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if I still like ,,,,,,,,,,,,, then I will begin reading reviews, watching actual player recording on YouTube,,,,,,,,,,, and of course watch Twitch streams for a few hours or even up to a day. Hasn't failed me yet, honestly. Then I will normally go and read this (https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/607/02/).
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: ahmedXD on June 27, 2016, 04:42:25 am
I suppose you opened this thread, because you possibly bought a game and didn't get it.
The support isn't the greatest, but this isn't like steam, amazon, best buy.
This is more like ebay, meaning that the sellers sell the item, not the actual company.
So sometimes you may get scammed, but you can always open a support ticket and ask for your key, even if you didn't buy the shield they offer.
I always use paypal for everything even if its more expensive a bit, because you will always have a protection guaranteed.

G2a is one of the best sites in which you can buy cheap game keys, which are way more expensive in steam.

You can buy games from steam if you feel unsafe, but in my opinion its worth the hassle.   
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: brian1996 on June 27, 2016, 05:50:24 am
I suppose you opened this thread, because you possibly bought a game and didn't get it.
The support isn't the greatest, but this isn't like steam, amazon, best buy.
This is more like ebay, meaning that the sellers sell the item, not the actual company.
So sometimes you may get scammed, but you can always open a support ticket and ask for your key, even if you didn't buy the shield they offer.
I always use paypal for everything even if its more expensive a bit, because you will always have a protection guaranteed.

G2a is one of the best sites in which you can buy cheap game keys, which are way more expensive in steam.

You can buy games from steam if you feel unsafe, but in my opinion its worth the hassle.
I never bought a game from G2A or any other gray market website simply because I never trusted them. Turns out I was right.
I only buy from Steam or legit retailers.
The reason why I posted this was to warn people about this and cut support for such frauds.
Think about it, this is just all lost money and time for game developers and companies like Ubisoft. They are putting in more and more resources into preventing this kind of crap and due to this future games are more than likely going to suffer from it (quality, development, etc.).
Title: Re: Don't buy games from sites such as G2A
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on June 27, 2016, 03:23:18 pm
Damn, all this drama...Thank God I don't buy games  :lol:
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