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Title: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Shorty. on August 06, 2016, 01:28:22 pm
So newbie cops annoy you, then they suspect you for evading TS, while you're driving a sweeper ( lol )


You report that cop, and the admin tell you to ask a high ranked cop to handle it ( while you're being abused, and the cop abused his rights )

You ask the high ranked cop to un suspect you, yet he said " come to LSPD and make an investigation ".

I refused to do any kind of investigations because i felt like i got annoying and abused.

This cop has been stalking me for more than 15 minutes, i was driving a sweeper, he kept ramming n blocking me, without saying any single word, to see if he's rping or trolling, i asked him on /em what the fuck you want, he didn't respond, so i reached East LS and he kept stalking blocking and ramming me, so i reported him, and Fuzzy said " high ranked cop should handle this ", this cop suddenly typed " /m1 " then " last warning " , then i got " suspected by him for evading TS, whilst i was not driving, i was blocked by him, and pming Fuzzy, i drove away from him and parked on the side of the road, to PM the high ranked cop, 2 minutes later the high ranked cop and 3 other cops arrive at the scene, while i was pming the high ranked cop, other cops were typing " /me reaches out for  their cuffs, /me cuffs Jays both hands ".

I admit insulting them, but all they did is annoy me, claiming that they are roleplaying with me, and im refusing to rp, i mean wtf. i have been roleplaying in here for more than 4 years, almost every single player  who roleplayed with me was happy. so o got Tempbanned by Brandy_James for insulting, and that newbie cop got away with his actions, so cops rp /m1 /m Last warning /su ID evading TS, /me un holsters his glock 18 and switches the safety mode [OFF].

^^ This what our lovely server ended up with ?? cops who love to pull the trigger instead of rping.

Check this..

[13:37:37] Lustig ([GSF]Jay_Johnson(35))

[13:37:37] {FFFFFF}Stivi_Gvardia{FFFFFF}: (14) but maybe we coul'de made him mapper

[13:37:39] {FFFFFF}[WS]Frankie_Mendoza{FFFFFF}: (28) he was gonna map his dick somewhere probably

[13:37:41] {FFC0CB}MahMawd{FFFFFF}: (34) ls-rp lol

[13:37:42] {FFFFFF}Stivi_Gvardia{FFFFFF}: (14) he might really be damien

[13:37:44] What do you want man ? ([GSF]Jay_Johnson(35))


[13:40:13] dude ([GSF]Jay_Johnson(35))

[13:40:17] what the fuck you want? ([GSF]Jay_Johnson(35))

Here i was just asking/i just wanted to see if he's rping or just trolling, he could say /em just go with it. i would continue, yet he kept following, blocking, and ramming me, without saying anything.



Here i was asking for admin help.

[13:41:09] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): This is the LAW ... PULL OVER to the side of the road!

[13:41:11] [GSF]Jay_Johnson(35) says: FUCKING STOP IT

[13:41:13] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): dRIVER, THIS IS LOS SANTOS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

[13:41:14] {FFFFFF}MahMawd{FFFFFF}: (34) wb

[13:41:17] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): Pullover your vehicle immediatyle, to the right side of the road.

[13:41:19] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): Cut the engine of your vehicle, and remain seated.

[13:41:21] Present Administrators: [WS]Fuzzy(33)

[13:41:21] Present Managers: [Rstar]MrMe(29)

[13:41:25] PM to [Rstar]MrMe(29): Help me please. 

[13:41:35] [GSF]Jay_Johnson(35) says: ffs

[13:41:39] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): Help me plz. 

[13:41:44] PM from [WS]Fuzzy(33): ?

[13:41:46] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): He has been following me since i logged in 

[13:41:47] {FFFFFF}MahMawd{FFFFFF}: (34) im gonna check GS9

[13:41:49] Your ticket #0 was accepted by Administrator [WS]Fuzzy(33).

[13:41:52] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): Now he's ramming me. 

[13:42:06] PM from [WS]Fuzzy(33): Uhm, alright then

[13:42:07] PM from [Rstar]MrMe(29): ?

[13:42:10] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): He dont want to rp, he's just annoying. 

[13:42:18] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): Move your streat cleaner towards right side of the road and CUT YOUR ENGINE NOW

[13:42:19] PM to [Rstar]MrMe(29): Fuzzy's handling it, i guess. 

[13:42:20] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): Final warning

[13:42:24] PM from [Rstar]MrMe(29): okay

[13:42:29] You have been suspected by SwE_Lustig(20). Reason: evading TS]

Here's Fuzzy telling me to ask for high ranked cop, while this officer abused his rights.
[13:42:43] PM from [WS]Fuzzy(33): Looks like he wants to pull you over to me

[13:42:45] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): And now he suspected me. 

[13:42:49] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): LSPD, get out with you hands above your head, toss your keys through the window NOW

[13:42:50] {FFFFFF}Patrick_Arguelles{FFFFFF}: (18) how can a bike ran 103 km per hour?

[13:42:52] SwE_Lustig(20) Shoves out an Glock 17, from his holster with the Saftey OFF.

[13:42:53] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): Not for the past 15 minutes. 

[13:42:54] SwE_Lustig(20) Tucks the Glock 17. into his holster.

[13:42:58] {FFFFFF}Stivi_Gvardia{FFFFFF}: (14) Tour de France?

[13:43:04] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): He just typed /m1 then /su 

[13:43:10] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): He has been stalking me dude. 

[13:43:15] {FFFFFF}Stivi_Gvardia{FFFFFF}: (14) ty sway

[13:43:18] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): Whilst i'm driving a sweeper. 

[13:43:18] {FFFFFF}Stivi_Gvardia{FFFFFF}: (14) swat*

[13:43:25] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): And cleaning, it cant go over 50 km/h 

[13:43:29] PM from [WS]Fuzzy(33): Well..I would ask some higher ranked cop to take care of this

He kept trolling this cop, if he's rping why he didn't say that on /em before 15 minutes of stalking ??

[13:43:59] [GSF]Jay_Johnson(35) says: Lustig

[13:44:03] [GSF]Jay_Johnson(35) says: STOP THIS SHIT NOW.

[13:44:06] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): Your surrounded!

[13:44:08] {FFFFFF}=AV=Grizz{FFFFFF}: (0) I can access it, Stivi.

[13:44:10] [GSF]Jay_Johnson(35) says: Why you have been stalking me /

[13:44:19] {FFFFFF}Stivi_Gvardia{FFFFFF}: (14) oh got fixerd?

[13:44:22] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Jay_Johnson{FFFFFF}: (35) Any high ranked cop online?

[13:44:22] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): Get out of the streat cleaner now and raise your hands upon the SKY

[13:44:24] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): LSPD

[13:44:47] PM to Lawrence_King(13): Oi 

[13:44:54] PM from Lawrence_King(13): Suh

[13:45:02] PM to Lawrence_King(13): Can you unsuspect me? 

[13:45:04] Charlotte_Rogers(26) says (megaphone): GET ON THE GROUND!

[13:45:07] PM from Lawrence_King(13): Reason?

[13:45:10] Byan(4) has logged into the server from Italy.

[13:45:13] SwE_Lustig(20) attempts to tackling the suspect.

[13:45:18] Mr_Andrew(9) has logged into the server from United States.

[13:45:18] towards the ground would I be able too? (SwE_Lustig(20))

[13:45:21] [MA]Carlo_Ancelotti(38) has logged into the server from Estonia.

[13:45:22] PM to Lawrence_King(13): I got suspected by ID20 while he was stalking me, for Evading TS. 

[13:45:24] Charlotte_Rogers(26) says (megaphone): GET ON THE GROUND!

[13:45:30] SwE_Lustig(20) says (radio): negative, stand by

[13:45:33] SwE_Lustig(20) read the miranda rights out:

[13:45:33] You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

[13:45:33] You have the right to have an attorney present during questioning. If you cannot afford an attorney,

[13:45:33] one will be appointed for you. Do you understand these rights?

[13:45:34] PM to Lawrence_King(13): im driving a sweeper which cant go over 50km/g 

[13:45:40] PM to Lawrence_King(13): km/h** 

[13:45:52] SwE_Lustig(20) unclips a pair of handcuffs.

[13:45:54] sameer_zahid(30) says: what is going on

[13:45:59] PM to Lawrence_King(13): Anyways, he was following me for 15 mins, then started to warn me.. 

[13:46:07] SwE_Lustig(20) says: Hes arrested for refusing to pulloer, back at ganton.

[13:46:09] PM to Lawrence_King(13): I mean c'mon, enough of abusing me.. 

[13:46:09] Charlotte_Rogers(26) holsters her Glock 17.

[13:46:11] Players with this name: {FFFFFF}[WS]Fuzzy(33)

[13:46:17] PM to [WS]Fuzzy(33): Dis aint fair mate. 

[13:46:17] SwE_Lustig(20) says: Evasion, is the crime sir.

^^ I asked Lawrence to handle it.

He's deaf? im trying to discover why did he stalk me, he's attempting to rp ( forcing me to rp )
[13:46:25] SwE_Lustig(20) attempts to cuffing the suspects wrists.

[13:46:26] [GSF]Jay_Johnson(35) says: Lustig

[13:46:32] PM from [WS]Fuzzy(33): Well like I said, just ask some supervisor to look at it

[13:46:34] [GSF]Jay_Johnson(35) says: I've been telling you to fuck off over /em

[13:46:40] {FFFFFF}Patrick_Arguelles{FFFFFF}: (18) is this ok?

[13:46:42] {FFFFFF}Turkish_Player{FFFFFF}: (3) the trucker job location

[13:46:42] [GSF]Jay_Johnson(35) says: You didn't say anythinbg,

[13:46:50] SwE_Lustig(20) says: Whos lustig, sir?

[13:46:51] {FFFFFF}Patrick_Arguelles{FFFFFF}: (18) ok :D

[13:46:51] [GSF]Jay_Johnson(35) says: Except following n blocking me.

[13:46:54] SwE_Lustig(20) says: What you talking about.

[13:47:01] {FFFFFF}Stivi_Gvardia{FFFFFF}: (14) h trucking ;(

These words made me mad, and thats why i started to insult them.
[13:47:19] Paul_Cutler(40) says: Traser won't be proud his members can't roleplay..

He's forcing me to rp..
[13:48:42] sameer_zahid(30) says: you've got cuffs on so you need to comply

Well slick, he have been stalking me since i entered the sweeper at Commerce, i asked him on /em to see if he's rping, he didn't say shit, also he was ramming me since i was in commerce, and started to type /m1 when i stopped at east beach, not at ganton, slick.
[13:50:49] Paul_Cutler(40) says: He was at ganton when he was supposed to pull over.

And this is where i got banned, and Brandy said " Stalking is allowed " is it?? even when you ask on /em what do you want? and the other player is not answering ?? really ? ?
[13:51:00] Brandy_James(29) says: well believe it or not, cops stalk

So i got tempbanned for insulting players, well i was not going to insult anyone if they didn't piss me off with their words..


I refused to do any kind of investigations because the officer did not rp it, all of them was forcing me to rp whilst that cop did everything wrong, i asked for admins help they turned on me because they though that Lustig rp it


Well check these logs n judge your punishment ( Brandy_James )..



PS: DO NOT TELL ME TO GO N REPORT THE ADMIN N THE PLAYER, ALL THE PLAYERS NEED TO SEE THIS BECAUSE IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO GET ANNOYED BY COPS, AND GET PUNISHED!!!
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Deni1997 on August 06, 2016, 01:34:26 pm
YEEES!

Finally someone doing something about these fcking abusing. It's really annoying especially with these newbies cops who have no fcking idea what they are doing
They just /su for fun and shoot, triggerhappy AF.
But hey, it's more important to have a higher playercount than normal members who will follow the rules.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Whiteman on August 06, 2016, 01:37:39 pm
Admins should just start blatantly copbanning them. This is not roleplay, this is deathmatching and abusing script. Nothing to do with SAPD command nor do they give a shit.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Ben. on August 06, 2016, 01:42:14 pm
Well, did you or didn't you evade them when they asked you to pull over?
...
If you didn't pull over, you're evading them.

If you did pull over, you didn't evade, and an investigation would've sorted it out. Nice 'n simple!
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: taseen11 on August 06, 2016, 01:43:22 pm
you can't just get unsuspected by demanding it to someone. there is the procedure of going to lspd so both sides can be heard and then whoever is investigating will make a judgement.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Bogomil on August 06, 2016, 01:45:14 pm
Check this: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=117704.msg1850501#new
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Rei on August 06, 2016, 01:47:51 pm
Ehhh....

Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Fuzzy on August 06, 2016, 01:53:00 pm
As I started watching the situation, one of the first things I saw by Swe_Lustig was this:
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[13:42:18] SwE_Lustig(20) says (megaphone): Move your streat cleaner towards right side of the road and CUT YOUR ENGINE NOW
After which you had PMed me you just ignored and kept driving your sweeper. Then I believe he suspected you and you kept pming me your story of how he was stalking you for the past 15 minutes. However I didn't really see any reason why this was something that administration should handle, so I only kept observing.

Then you stopped again to PM Lawrence this time I assume, and Swe_Lustig kept trying to arrest you in roleplay. Some other units arrived and you just kept insisting that you were abused and you weren't gonna roleplay. All you had to do was give up and go get investigated at LSPD, but you started also insulting them after which Brandy tempbanned you.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Deni1997 on August 06, 2016, 01:53:32 pm
Short story of this is - Server turned into CNR, noone cares about roleplay no more, all players want is shoot shoot shoot, and thats it... i think
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Julio. on August 06, 2016, 02:01:00 pm
Short story of this is - Server turned into CNR, noone cares about roleplay no more, all players want is shoot shoot shoot, and thats it... i think

I disagree. Not feeling that at all. Possibly that's the style of the people you associate with?

I've head very pleasant RPs with caion, Lionel, Marcel, entire SDP, Gvardia... the list goes on.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Shorty. on August 06, 2016, 02:01:41 pm
Well, did you or didn't you evade them when they asked you to pull over?
...
If you didn't pull over, you're evading them.

If you did pull over, you didn't evade, and an investigation would've sorted it out. Nice 'n simple!
When he typed /m1 and suspected me he was blocking me, and i couldn't get away because i was driving a sweeper, also i did not evade, and he have no reason to pull me over.

you can't just get unsuspected by demanding it to someone. there is the procedure of going to lspd so both sides can be heard and then whoever is investigating will make a judgement.
I am aware of all the procedures. but mate, he didn't rp it so we do investigation, this investigation will be totally OOC, thats why i asked to get unsuspected..

As I started watching the situation, one of the first things I saw by Swe_Lustig was this:After which you had PMed me you just ignored and kept driving your sweeper. Then I believe he suspected you and you kept pming me your story of how he was stalking you for the past 15 minutes. However I didn't really see any reason why this was something that administration should handle, so I only kept observing.

Then you stopped again to PM Lawrence this time I assume, and Swe_Lustig kept trying to arrest you in roleplay. Some other units arrived and you just kept insisting that you were abused and you weren't gonna roleplay. All you had to do was give up and go get investigated at LSPD, but you started also insulting them after which Brandy tempbanned you.
Well i knew that you just saw that m1, but THIS DOESNT MEAN /m1 is rping, <<< also, he suspected me while i was being blocked by him, then i kept driving away from him to pm Lawrence, since he typed /me unholsters his glock 17..

WHY I DID NOT /GU ?? because this shit wasn't legit dude, i got abused by this cop, i asked him multiple times to check if he was rping, but he did not respond, i thought he was new thats why i didn't say anything when he was following me, but he started to block n ram me without typing /m1. so you still think " i claim that i was abused " ??

Also doing an investigation while one side is rping is useless, i hope you checked all the above chats ^^ those chats are the reason me getting pissed off..
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on August 06, 2016, 02:04:56 pm
Jeez, I wonder why I never got abused by cops like all these cases on all these topics...Oh, yeah! It's because I roleplay at all times and avoid Los Santos like the cancer it is  :lol:
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Ben. on August 06, 2016, 02:05:01 pm
When he typed /m1 and suspected me he was blocking me, and i couldn't get away because i was driving a sweeper, also i did not evade, and he have no reason to pull me over.
I could pull you over IG now if I wanted - am I abusing too?
I won't hear anything about it not being RP...in fact by ignoring him you were the one failing to roleplay.



I disagree. Not feeling that at all. Possibly that's the style of the people you associate with?

I've head very pleasant RPs with caion, Lionel, Marcel, entire SDP, Gvardia... the list goes on.
Amen to that.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Julio. on August 06, 2016, 02:06:20 pm
This has been hammered into people time and time again.

Abused? /gu - Get admin involved.
Corrupt cop suspected you? - /gu Request investigation.

Giving up stops them attempting to kill you and gives you the time to get things sorted out.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Sarmed on August 06, 2016, 02:11:33 pm
Same thing happen with me on Mayor inauguration ceremony day, cop (newbie cop) come to me and say /m1 2 times and then he /su me, i reported to admin and admin said ask to high rank officer, i did but none high ranked officer come, few minutes later, cop said "last warning" and then he killed me, again i reported him for "DM" but admins didn't open my ticket and i pissed off and /q.

Remove Freecop duty.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: TiMoN on August 06, 2016, 02:11:41 pm
Pull over, problem solved.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Ben. on August 06, 2016, 02:12:32 pm
No noobs round here. Since when has it ever been acceptable to use derogatory terms for new players?
Sort yourselves out, and remember what you were like when you joined your first SA:MP server.

It's not difficult to try and help someone, or at least positively make sure somebody helps them. Instead of this, some players choose to avoid new players online at all costs, and choose to slander them over /p chat and on the forums. I'm sorry, but that puts you right in the middle of the "shit" crosshairs as far as I'm concerned.
Whether you like it or not we're a multiplayer server, and we are not elitist. If you don't like new players having access to the FUN parts of the server, my opinion is you should walk straight out the door.

Absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Shorty. on August 06, 2016, 02:21:45 pm
I could pull you over IG now if I wanted - am I abusing too?
I won't hear anything about it not being RP...in fact by ignoring him you were the one failing to roleplay.


Amen to that.
You are just saying things without knowing the situation, i understand that most of cops rp properly but what about the other cops ??

The situation is he started to follow me, i asked him on /em to see if he's rping, but he didn't respond, i didnt pullover because of that..


This has been hammered into people time and time again.

Abused? /gu - Get admin involved.
Corrupt cop suspected you? - /gu Request investigation.

Giving up stops them attempting to kill you and gives you the time to get things sorted out.
When i told an admin to involve he said " high ranked cop should handle this ", yet you all say things without understanding the situation, people who got punished for the same reason are mad, and this is why i made the topic..

Pulling over is not the solution..
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Julio. on August 06, 2016, 02:26:45 pm
If they're DMing you, suspecting you for random reasons like "I cop," then it's administrative.

If they've suspected you for "Assault" and it's not true, then it's SAPD's responsibility.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Mister_Me on August 06, 2016, 02:36:10 pm
Resorting to ignoring the situation and ignoring administrators orders when its not to your liking is not something we like to see especially not from a regular player.

If a cop wants to follow you its his choice, and if he decides to ignore your questions its his choice, this is an RP server and they are cops, they investigate and might decide to follow someone if they think its necessary.
Maybe the cop might have been wrong in suspecting you, but that still didn't give you any right to start behaving the way you did.

If someone suspects you for evading and you don't agree you ask for an investigation , perhaps if you did you might have been unsuspected.

You're the one who made this into a negative situation, if you would have rp'd (because again, that's what this server is for) and kept your temper everything would have been just fine.
Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: Shorty. on August 06, 2016, 03:00:15 pm
Resorting to ignoring the situation and ignoring administrators orders when its not to your liking is not something we like to see especially not from a regular player.

If a cop wants to follow you its his choice, and if he decides to ignore your questions its his choice, this is an RP server and they are cops, they investigate and might decide to follow someone if they think its necessary.
Maybe the cop might have been wrong in suspecting you, but that still didn't give you any right to start behaving the way you did.

If someone suspects you for evading and you don't agree you ask for an investigation , perhaps if you did you might have been unsuspected.

You're the one who made this into a negative situation, if you would have rp'd (because again, that's what this server is for) and kept your temper everything would have been just fine.
Well mate, i know that we must rp here, but you still can't force me to, i mean i don't like such rps, because he somehow forced me to gu /me cuffs his arms....

Anyways, i acted like that because the decision was wrong, and it's obvious, Paul disrespected me when he said that i can't roleplay, well if i can't rp why would i go online ??

Im disappointed because the decision was obvious and i did the reported and i am the one who got punished, i am responsible for my words, but if Paul didn't say shit about me, i would still respect them, but it seem like admins take cops side without investigating the issue, and as you can see i am not the only one who suffer from this, i mean i used to have fun rping with cops, but now i avoid them because the at the end everyone know how their rp ends..


Title: Re: The fuck is this ??
Post by: TrotlDebilni on August 06, 2016, 03:09:46 pm
Well mate, i know that we must rp here, but you still can't force me to, i mean i don't like such rps, because he somehow forced me to gu /me cuffs his arms....

Uhh, yes, this is a roleplay server and if you don't want to roleplay /q, isn't that like rule #1 since Teddy put it in motion?

You don't like to roleplay with cops? Too bad, cops are here to roleplay with everyone just like you are supposed to be. He forced cuffs on you? You mean while being armed and your reasoning to not allow him to cuff you being "but I don't want to" yeah. He had every roleplay right to cuff you, unless you would've resorted to violence in which case you would've been shot down or tazed or sprayed.

You are here to roleplay. That is your primary objective.
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