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Title: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Mr. Goobii on April 07, 2017, 04:24:39 pm
Attack in central Stockholm: ”Multiple casualties”
Lorry drives into crowd on pedestrian street



At least three people have died during an attack where a lorry crashed into pedestrians in the Swedish capital Friday afternoon.
”Sweden has been attacked, everything points to an act of terror”, says Swedish prime minister Stefan Löfven.
Police are currently urging people to stay away from downtown Stockholm.
All hospitals in the Stockholm area have been put in a state of emergency.


This is a ongoing breaking news story. More information is expected, this article is uppdated regularly...
At 2:53 pm, Friday afternoon, police was alerted to Drottninggatan, a main shopping street in downtown Stockholm.
An hour later Swedish prime minister Stefan Löfven states that Sweden has become the scene for an apparent terrorist attack.

”Points to an act of terror”
”Sweden has been attacked, everything points to an act of terror” says Löfven in a brief statement.
A lorry was, in what seems to be a deliberate attack, driven several blocks along the pedestrian street and both hit and ran over several people. According to the Swedish Security Service at least two have been found dead and there is ”a large number of wounded”.
The lorry then drove straight into the storefront of the Åhléns department store, a main spot for Friday shoppers in the Swedish capital. Shortly thereafter the lorry caught fire.
”I saw hundreds of people running. They ran for their lives” says eyewitness Anna to Aftonbladet. ”I turned and ran aswell!”

Panic as the lorry ran over people
Swedish public radio, SR, reported previously that the Swedish prime minister confirmed that an arrest had been made, but at a press conference at 5:50 pm, Friday afternoon, the Swedish Security Service says that no one has been arrested as of yet.
Another eywitness, Durde, tells Aftonbladet of how he saw the lorry hit innocent bystanders: ”The lorry just drove, full speed ahead, down Drottninggatan hitting people” he says. ”We had to throw ourselves into an H&M store, and then the lorry hit Åhléns”.
Doing some Friday shopping on the street of Drottninggatan Jan Granroth heard people scream: ”We were inside a shoe store and heard noise. I looked out from the store to see this huge truck slam into the wall on the opposite side of the street” says he.

”I ran as fast as I could”
Granroth had to escape through an emergency exit out onto a neighboring backstreet.
Dimitris, another eyewitness describes the panic when the truck came out of nowhere.
”I was walking on the main street when a big truck came out of nowhere” he tells Aftonbladet. ”I could not see if anyone was driving it, but it seemed out of control. I saw at least two people being run over. I ran as fast as I could away from there”.
Central Stockholm is currently under a complete lockdown. Car traffic as well as trains and underground trains have all been blocked from entering or leaving the area.

Bomb threat against the Central station
The Swedish government offices, situated a block from Drottninggatan, approximately 700 meters from where the attack took place, has been evacuated and all ministers put to safety.
The Stockholm central station, in close proximity to both Drottninggatan shopping street and Åhléns department store, has also been evacuated after a bomb threat, presumed to be related to the attack on street level.
Police are urging people to stay away from downtown Stockholm and to avoid large crowds.
Security footage of man ”wanted for questioning”
Swedish Security Service told during a press conference right before 6pm Friday afternoon, that the lorry, belonging to a well known Swedish brewery, was stolen in central Stockholm shortly before the attack.
During the press conference the Swedish Security Service also presented of a picture from security footage, taken in close proximity to the Åhléns department store, of a man wanted for questioning. According to the Security Service the man is not a suspect but rather a person of interest, and might have information of importance for the ongoing investigation.


Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Petarda on April 07, 2017, 04:27:25 pm
refugees welcome
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Ramo_Hawk on April 07, 2017, 04:46:18 pm
Sad.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Witchking on April 07, 2017, 05:11:52 pm
''Sweden has never been this safe'' Just to Quote our Government
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hevar. on April 07, 2017, 05:18:44 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yf7Z77Mcc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Drzti31iM

Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: jovanca on April 07, 2017, 05:39:41 pm
''Sweden has never been this safe'' Just to Quote our Government

And? This doesn't mean Sweden isn't safe. It just means no one is safe.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hevar. on April 07, 2017, 05:46:27 pm
(https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2017/Apr/7/LiveLeak-dot-com-aab_1491577164-terrorist_1491577180.png.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdde97484cdbd4a643&ec_rate=499)
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: ahmedXD on April 07, 2017, 05:58:53 pm
Rip pewdiepie  :janek:
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Mark on April 07, 2017, 06:30:58 pm
Rip pewdiepie  :janek:

he doesn't even live there...
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Mr. Goobii on April 07, 2017, 06:39:04 pm
Bomb threat against the Central train station; Swedish National Task Force is responding

(https://www.thelocal.se/userdata/images/1491578152_ARMED-CENTRAL-STATION.jpg)

SWAT(Piketen) have been deployed on most roads in central Stockholm.
(https://www.thelocal.se/userdata/images/1491578197_ARMED-POLICE-HAMNGATAN.jpg)

Other images from the area;
(https://imgs.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v2/images/115a27a0-988b-4f27-b972-abf5c13e13ce?fit=crop&h=733&w=1100&s=7b8c64d2e323754ec78229b5cb8b4193dd38c8f7)

(https://imgs.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v2/images/4d16c99b-e22d-405c-a6b2-127bd57f2ffa?fit=crop&h=732&w=1100&s=3360818c8b7a924d112c63d4596e0def143c1ffe)

(https://imgs.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v2/images/4b3171c8-9c66-4d11-b99a-28200602b34e?fit=crop&h=731&w=1100&s=18c8736b13df78d265ea55ec7af7ab27cb23f143)

(https://imgs.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v2/images/0f1048ee-6806-49e0-92cc-869f19b805f5?fit=crop&h=728&w=1100&s=cb2f4288607594f78f376d87bf599e91b01673c5)

(https://imgs.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v2/images/5a4902a1-73c1-477d-91da-6fad5147cef6?fit=crop&h=824&w=1100&s=6a0621f0f62da3d1b159ae945551d2747f494e29)

(https://imgs.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v2/images/5e8f0eb9-2259-42d6-b770-0a9165fa3e71?fit=crop&h=825&w=1100&s=c2584edce61e8abccd587543e3eb688be8829afb)

(https://imgs.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v2/images/12716364-6281-459d-a62a-8b97aec8413a?fit=crop&h=731&w=1100&s=b3fc94e83bbdbc3fdd1c8cf4f4016268aaee2faa)

The man wanted by the police;
(https://imgs.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v2/images/74aa9d4c-017f-4316-b700-6ad6203af83a?fit=crop&h=1151&w=1100&s=b9f4ea15931e553e33f06dad4e094c23b9051cd8)
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hevar. on April 07, 2017, 06:44:19 pm
Since Uppsala is Sweden 4th biggest city and very close to Stockholm. The special force has been deployed in Uppsala near the central station
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: AK47 on April 07, 2017, 06:53:05 pm
This is what's happening when you let immigrants in your country.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hevar. on April 07, 2017, 06:57:11 pm
This is what's happening when you let immigrants in your country.

Nah this happens when the security in Sweden sucks.

Sweden got a popultion of 10m and they only got 8500 cops.

Sweden letting everyone in without a clear verification.

Sweden must help the real warriors in middle east which doing the international job and cleaning ISIS and not sit their ass and doing nothing. At least send some modern weapons.

Look, ISIS is growing fast and attacking all europe xounrries one by one. If all countries help each other together then ISIS can be removed easy from middleeast
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Salmonella on April 07, 2017, 06:59:38 pm
Nah this happens when the security in Sweden sucks.

Sweden got a popultion of 10m and they only got 8500 cops.

Sweden letting everyone in without a clear verification.

Sweden must help the real warriors in middle east which doing the international job and cleaning ISIS and not sit their ass and doing nothing. At least send some modern weapons.

Look, ISIS is growing fast and attacking all europe xounrries one by one. If all countries help each other together then ISIS can be removed easy from middleeast

Yes, blame it on the victims.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Mr. Goobii on April 07, 2017, 07:03:33 pm
Nah this happens when the security in Sweden sucks.

Sweden got a popultion of 10m and they only got 8500 cops.

Sweden letting everyone in without a clear verification.

Sweden must help the real warriors in middle east which doing the international job and cleaning ISIS and not sit their ass and doing nothing. At least send some modern weapons.

Look, ISIS is growing fast and attacking all europe xounrries one by one. If all countries help each other together then ISIS can be removed easy from middleeast

That's wrong though. I don't get where you get your information but the police authority is the largest Swedish government agency with over 28,000 employees and that's decluded
from SÄPO(Secret Security Police) since become their own agency a few years ago and the Rikskriminalpolisen(National Police Board), as with them, the number would increase as well.

Threats like this was well known, even before this year, this was known to be the biggest security threat put out from SÄPO(Secret Security Police);
Source; https://www.thelocal.se/20170118/the-biggest-terror-threat-facing-sweden-in-2017 (https://www.thelocal.se/20170118/the-biggest-terror-threat-facing-sweden-in-2017)

"'Lone wolves' pose the biggest terror threat to Sweden in 2017, according to a new national report."

There's also why SÄPO increased the level of emergency preparedness earlier this year / last year. Which you may remember when it was on the news and SÄPO went out and gave information that the rise of terrorism may happen. They increased it into a level 2, of a 3 scale.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hevar. on April 07, 2017, 07:08:34 pm
That's wrong though. I don't get where you get your information but the police authority is the largest Swedish government agency with over 28,000 employees.

Threats like this was well known, even before this year, this was known to be the biggest security threat put out from SÄPO(Secret Security Police);
Source; https://www.thelocal.se/20170118/the-biggest-terror-threat-facing-sweden-in-2017

"'Lone wolves' pose the biggest terror threat to Sweden in 2017, according to a new national report."

28,000 is still nothing, serious. Dude people which is ex-Jihad fighter is coming back to Sweden and chilin. Do you really call this for hardcore security?

Sweden got worst security ever, you can bring anything to Sweden illegal also even jihad fighters from Syria/Iraq can fly back to Sweden.

One more thing.....Sweden cops cant even controll notorious cities like Rinkeby/Malmö when the criminal activity is high.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Mr. Goobii on April 07, 2017, 07:19:34 pm
28,000 is still nothing, serious. Dude people which is ex-Jihad fighter is coming back to Sweden and chilin. Do you really call this for hardcore security?

Sweden got worst security ever, you can bring anything to Sweden illegal also even jihad fighters from Syria/Iraq can fly back to Sweden.

One more thing.....Sweden cops cant even controll notorious cities like Rinkeby/Malmö when the criminal activity is high.

And SÄPO is holding track of all those people that they know have fought in wars outside of Sweden. SÄPO went out in public that currently there's around 300 people that have fought in Jihad based territorium/Out shore and then coming back to Sweden.

The security is good, however the tolerans and the acceptance of ignorance is a big flaw. It's up to the politicians to decide what should be right and wrong, since there is no wrong by definition of law to fight in another country. We need to define those laws to regulate that people, citizens of Sweden that they can not fight in wars not connected with Sweden.

We have similar laws already, but they only apply if Sweden would be in war times and is defined under treason which is one of the highest crimes you can commit(in war times) and punishment 24 years or life time in prison.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Cofiliano on April 07, 2017, 09:36:11 pm
10 outta 10 last terrorist attacks in Europe, were done by people born in those countries, so spare us the "emigrant" bullshit.

Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: AK47 on April 07, 2017, 09:43:02 pm
10 outta 10 last terrorist attacks in Europe, were done by people born in those countries, so spare us the "emigrant" bullshit.



And like 8/10 was members of islam
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Mr. Goobii on April 07, 2017, 09:47:39 pm
Warning: Strong images(18+) and only for those suitable, please do not open if you don't want to see!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C80Cos6XoAQQnaO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dFSN59w.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/MeEilhR.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/71Rw65z.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/03vQnUK.png)

One of the 4 dead people being driven over by the truck.
(http://i.imgur.com/frF8GYN.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ym86shr.png)


Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Mr. Goobii on April 07, 2017, 09:58:12 pm
10 outta 10 last terrorist attacks in Europe, were done by people born in those countries, so spare us the "emigrant" bullshit.

I agree with you. This isn't to blame immigration, it could have happen any country and it have already! It's not a hit on Sweden, but on Europe and the civil word. Maniacs live
anywhere, not only in  Muslim driven places but also within our own borders.

If we take in 270,000 people a year, of course there's going to be criminals, nasty people! But they are in a very very small minority! Just as in any other country.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Witchking on April 07, 2017, 10:01:13 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyawbqMnndA
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: ahmedXD on April 07, 2017, 10:20:11 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyawbqMnndA
/report ID attempted car kill .
my god what da heck is happening  :v:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1hcliakfP0
LIVE NEWS
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hernandez on April 07, 2017, 10:36:27 pm
Really horrible and painful Images. We feel pity for those victims. May god bless their families.What an Uncomfortable world !
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hevar. on April 07, 2017, 10:37:40 pm
Well i guess its time for europe to place some heavy barriers or spike matt around popular areas
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hevar. on April 07, 2017, 10:44:59 pm
Btw...Swedish media is saying the suspect is 39 years old and from Uzbekistan and got connected to ISIS.

Isn't Uzbekistan a christian country or some sort old soviet union country?
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Antonio. on April 07, 2017, 10:54:13 pm
Btw...Swedish media is saying the suspect is 39 years old and from Uzbekistan and got connected to ISIS.

Isn't Uzbekistan a christian country or some sort old soviet union country?
It was part of the Soviet Union, however a Muslim majority country.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hevar. on April 08, 2017, 01:50:32 pm
It was part of the Soviet Union, however a Muslim majority country.

Ohh..they speaking russian, right?
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Petarda on April 08, 2017, 02:10:44 pm
Ohh..they speaking russian, right?
all stan countries are of turkic origin and i guess all of them belong to turkic language family as well
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on April 08, 2017, 02:47:18 pm
10 outta 10 last terrorist attacks in Europe, were done by people born in those countries, so spare us the "emigrant" bullshit.

 :rolleyes:

(http://i.imgur.com/yCHaU13.jpg)
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Whiteman on April 08, 2017, 04:25:23 pm
This is just the beginning.

This is what's happening when you let immigrants in your country.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Exterminator on April 08, 2017, 04:58:11 pm
This is what's happening when you let immigrants in your country.

India took in more muslim refugees than the entirety of Europe took in the last 50 years during the 1971 bangladeshi genocide.
Israel is an entire country founded by refugees.
America is practically the land of immigrants, it's entire population emigrated from various parts of the world, mostly Europe.

Refugees/immigrants are not the problem. It's the people trying (And succeeding) in trying to divide the world. Terrorist attacks are being carried out against Europe to weaken their unity. Europe needs to show those terrorists a massive middle finger instead of turning on the immigrants, which is exactly what those terrorists want in the first place.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Petarda on April 08, 2017, 05:05:04 pm
Europe needs to show those terrorists a massive middle finger instead of turning on the immigrants, which is exactly what those terrorists want in the first place.
really
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Exterminator on April 08, 2017, 05:39:23 pm
really

Really.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Petarda on April 08, 2017, 06:04:27 pm
Really.
can you please explain in detail how does accepting immigrants affect terrorists in a bad way
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Exterminator on April 08, 2017, 07:54:08 pm
can you please explain in detail how does accepting immigrants affect terrorists in a bad way

Quote
Refugees/immigrants are not the problem. It's the people trying (And succeeding) in trying to divide the world. Terrorist attacks are being carried out against Europe to weaken their unity. Europe needs to show those terrorists a massive middle finger instead of turning on the immigrants, which is exactly what those terrorists want in the first place.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Petarda on April 08, 2017, 08:04:14 pm
you literally didn't explain anything
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hevar. on April 08, 2017, 09:17:15 pm
all stan countries are of turkic origin and i guess all of them belong to turkic language family as well

haha omg i feel sad for your IQ, he just said that its a old soviet union country. Btw..Turks orginally from Mongolia empire.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Petarda on April 08, 2017, 10:48:45 pm
haha omg i feel sad for your IQ, he just said that its a old soviet union country. Btw..Turks orginally from Mongolia empire.
what the hell is wrong with you lol

i answered your question that the biggest population of all stan countries except afghanistan and pakistan is of turkic origin and so is their language

and yeah even though history is not very exact subject you should not take such a huge shit on it by saying that turkic and mongol people are the same, that's equal to saying that slavs and germans are the same
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: [Rstar]Peter on April 09, 2017, 11:30:35 am
Turks orginally from Mongolia empire.

Last time I checked Turks were originally from Ottomans origins.

This is so sad to hear these news about terrorist attacks...
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: jovanca on April 09, 2017, 11:42:18 am
:rolleyes:

(http://i.imgur.com/yCHaU13.jpg)

Idiotic comparison, even for you
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: Hevar. on April 09, 2017, 02:57:29 pm
Last time I checked Turks were originally from Ottomans origins.

This is so sad to hear these news about terrorist attacks...

First of all, Mongols and Turks lived together for a long time. During the time of Xiongnu Empire, Mongols and Turks weren't divided yet. East and North of Xiongnu was inhabited by Mongols. Todays Mongolia was inhabited by Turks. After the Xiongnu was defeated, the empire was divided to smaller states. Definitely Dinglins and West Xiongnu were Turkic. Probably North Xiongnus and South Xiongus (who were still one state) were mixed. Mongol ones were Xianbei and Wu-Huans. These two were the two main branches of the old Dong-hu who was defeated by Xiongnu.

After that, a small state called Wusun was divided from West Xiongnu. Their ethnicity is arguable. Some say that they are Turkic while some say that they are Indo-European. Wusun took the Ili Valley from Yuezhis.

After the West Xiongnu started to migrate far West to become the Huns, a new state; Hephthalite Empire was formed in the lands West Xiongnu left. There are several theories regarding the origins of the White Huns, with the Iranian and Turkic theories being the most prominent. For many years, scholars suggested that they were of Turkic stock .Some have claimed that some groups amongst the Hephthalites were Turkic-speakers.  According to the Encyclopedia of the Peoples of Asia and Oceania the ancestry of the Hephthalites is still Uncertain but possibly Eastern Iranian within the larger Indo-European family for the majority. Some experts have also suggested the majority were of Turkic origins. They were certainly a mixed group who included peoples with many different origins. ... Probably dominated by Eastern Iranian language, but their mixed ancestry also led to multilingualism. (Wikipedia)

200 years after the formation of Hephtalites, the real seperation begins. There were Huns, Sabyrs, Hepthalites, Juan Juan, Dinglings, Tabgachs (Wei) and Kyrgyz. Juan Juans and Tabgachs were probably Mongols.

In 500 AD, when the Huns are done, they left Onogurs (to later mix with the Baltic people), Kutrigurs, Utrigurs, Alanians and Magyars.

565 AD, Gokturk Khaganate is formed. This is when the name "Turk" was officially in use.

600 AD, Gokturk Khaganate seperated. West Gokturks and East Gokturks. West Gokturks are todays Oghuz branch of Turkic people. They also had a little bit of Kipchak population because of Bashkorts and Kimeks while they also had the Karluk branch. East Gokturks are todays Kipchak and Sibir branches, plus Mongolians.

700 AD, one of the worst times in Turkic history probably. Onogurs+Magyars, Khazars, Avars (West), Bolgars, Pechenegs, Bashkors, Yakuts, Khakass, Turgesh, Karluk, Oghuz, Kimek, Idil Bolgar, Kyrgyz and East Gokturk. Think about ALL these and they ALL had their own states.

820 AD, rise of the Khazars.

1000 AD, Karakhanids, Idil Bolgars, Ghaznavids. New states huh? There also Seljuks trying to seperate themselves from Oghuz.

1055 AD, Seljuk Empire, pushing the gates of Anatolia. There are Aleppo, Armenia and Byzantine Empire on her way.

1071, Sultan Alparslan has won the Battle of Manzikert. Turks are in Anatolia!

1200, here comes the rise of Mongols. There are already Mongol states, such as Jalayirs, Merkits, Taichiuts and a really powerful one: Kara Khitai

1206, there comes Chinghis, the Mognols rise and establish one of the greatest empires history has ever seen.

So, how did they mix while having such tribe-states?

You know; to this date Mongols and Turkics lived together right? After the Mongol Empire is divided into four Mongol states, let "lived together" rise up, and create the "mixed together".

Chinghis Khaan used a tactic to prevent tribes from rebeling. He mix all the members of the suspicious tribes with all the members of another suspicious tribe or a very very calm tribe. So that "tribalism" is gone. They are a whole new faction now. This led to the mixing of Mongol and Turkic tribes.

Turkic population mostly outnumbered Mongol population in Central Asia. This led to the "Turkification" of Chagatais, "Turkification+Islamisation" of Altan Orda (Golden Horde) which already had incredible Turkic population. Ilkhanate probably remained the most Mongol, until the day they collapse and melt into Anatolia, Persia, Levant and Caucasus. Yuans became very Chinese. This has a really simple reason, Chinese culture always lured steppe people and melted them into itself. Chinese culture was strong, rich and complicated to the nomads.

Today

Today, Mongols and Turks share some similar traditions. I will not speak about Central Asia but Turkey, because that Turks and Mongols are probably the most distinct ones of our topic.
Title: Re: Sweden have been attacked! Terrorist attack on Swedish soil!
Post by: [Rstar]Peter on April 10, 2017, 07:59:53 am
I'm not very familiar with History and similar things, thats what I could remember from my school days. I guess I was wrong.
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