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There's been a bunch of topics in the SA:MP general section that were removed. None of them for a good reason, obviously.
I just want to speak up for the community and point out that we have certain rules here and no more and no less than those.
Abide those rules, enforce those rules, but don't make up new rules or delete topics just because they aren't pretty for your friends (i.e. Astaroth).
Let's keep this community free from prejudice and friendship policies.
I hope this won't be a topic that gets deleted as well, because I feel there are some things integrally wrong with Argonath that can only be fixed through proper communication between staff and playes and players and staff and staff and staff (from other servers).
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You know, I hate to say this but I suggest you SA:MP players move to VC:MP, the place there isn't big but its good and it's in good hands.
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You know, I hate to say this but I suggest you SA:MP players move to VC:MP, the place there isn't big but its good and it's in good hands.
I can agree with you on that, the VCMP HQ is really good and does have experience unlike SAMPs..
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If me saying that Timon is a jackass for hacking the database offends you, I am not sorry at all. Post your screens all you want but your attempts are miserable.
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If me saying that Timon is a jackass for hacking the database offends you, I am not sorry at all. Post your screens all you want but your attempts are miserable.
Did you even read what he said before replying? At what point was it even remotely implied that you "saying that Timon is a jackass" offends him?
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You know, I hate to say this but I suggest you SA:MP players move to VC:MP, the place there isn't big but its good and it's in good hands.
I agree with this..VC-MP has better environment than this..
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Let me clear something up..
Yes, Most people miss the old HQ team, And yes the new HQ didn't do as good a job in the beginning, But what you have to understand and realize is that, Teddy, devin and rusty were all on the edge of leaving, They all had lives to get back to and to live, We can't always rely on the same people to run the SA:MP division, When Carbon and MrMe took leadership my thoughts were "oh fuck" aswell.. But they weren't too bad, they just needed some time to get back into the game.
Now we as HQ have done as best as we can to please the server and its players and keep it going, but all we have gotten since being appointed our roles was complete and utter shit in our faces.
The day i was promoted to Manager, I was shit on by half of the staff team, Now i didn't ask for this promotion or the role itself, But i took it and tried my best to keep the server managed and kept alive, And to have people i once called "friends" talk behind my back and not say to my face what the problem is, Was pretty damn disrespectful.
As for the recent hackers and such, You cannot blame HQ for removing players who constantly ruined other peoples gameplay for constantly rulebreaking, we can't sit there tempbanning and warning for years and years, Sometimes we have to make a tough call and BAN a player, How that player responds to such a call is their own responsibility.
Now if everybody hates HQ/staff so much, How about we do something constructive about it?
You can all feel free to send me a forum PM regarding your view on the issues on the server/people and how you think we should handle it, I personally guarantee all of these will be read and discussed.
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Now we as HQ have done as best as we can to please the server and its players and keep it going, but all we have gotten since being appointed our roles was complete and utter shit in our faces.
You have a vital point here, Even we need to co-operate with them guys, We don't have to get mad on them, They are humans and trust me, You all would have done same at there place. They don't like to BAN us all the time.
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While I'll keep my views about the HQ to myself, as its pretty much like everything else in life, everyone hates a change.
Argonath has turned into a scripted show since the past year or so. Pretty much turning into the show Argonath's popular heel "Unexpected Cena" stole his name from. While Argonath SA:MP server lacks scripters, it does not lack scripting at all. While our Vince McMohan (Gandalf) is often away, the management ensures the things run smoothly, and its not always faces who win, as heels deserve equal lime light. The story lines while cringe worthy for some, give many others laughing opportunities. The management loves playing gods. All 3 of the show runners are the "official" Champions(if you know what I mean ;) ;) *for those who dont, look up how all official groups SAPD, FBI, HR are lead by management members*) while some boring and stale people enjoy the mid-card belts. And yes, just like the WWE programming Argonath seems to be suffering from low ratings too, ever since it lost the hosted tab.
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There is only one answer to this:
RELASE RS6
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There is only one answer to this:
RELASE RS6
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Let me clear something up..
Yes, Most people miss the old HQ team, And yes the new HQ didn't do as good a job in the beginning, But what you have to understand and realize is that, Teddy, devin and rusty were all on the edge of leaving, They all had lives to get back to and to live, We can't always rely on the same people to run the SA:MP division, When Carbon and MrMe took leadership my thoughts were "oh fuck" aswell.. But they weren't too bad, they just needed some time to get back into the game.
Now we as HQ have done as best as we can to please the server and its players and keep it going, but all we have gotten since being appointed our roles was complete and utter shit in our faces.
The day i was promoted to Manager, I was shit on by half of the staff team, Now i didn't ask for this promotion or the role itself, But i took it and tried my best to keep the server managed and kept alive, And to have people i once called "friends" talk behind my back and not say to my face what the problem is, Was pretty damn disrespectful.
As for the recent hackers and such, You cannot blame HQ for removing players who constantly ruined other peoples gameplay for constantly rulebreaking, we can't sit there tempbanning and warning for years and years, Sometimes we have to make a tough call and BAN a player, How that player responds to such a call is their own responsibility.
Now if everybody hates HQ/staff so much, How about we do something constructive about it?
You can all feel free to send me a forum PM regarding your view on the issues on the server/people and how you think we should handle it, I personally guarantee all of these will be read and discussed.
The ones crying about current HQ are the same people who support the hackers. And why are they crying? Not because you did something wrong, obvioisly, but because you are finally putting an end to toxic environment they created.
The improvement can already be seen. The only complaint i have is that it took a bit long for you guys to react, but still, better late than never. Keep up the good work!
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The ones crying about current HQ are the same people who support the hackers. And why are they crying? Not because you did something wrong, obvioisly, but because you are finally putting an end to toxic environment they created.
The improvement can already be seen. The only complaint i have is that it took a bit long for you guys to react, but still, better late than never. Keep up the good work!
It's not about that they just say few sentences to just have fun and when they get banned they cry. Ok, why did they get themselves banned then? Its their own mistake. Also HQ works quite good. There is no mistake in it, and why could we be hackers if we want to play, just its easy to imagine. Its their own mistake to get banned not administrators/HQ one.
HQ keep up ur good work!
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The people who dont actually realize what is going on is the people who never managed to get on top and see the attempts to take you down are ridiculous/biased
i brought up facts once, i can do it again.. but the topic will get locked instantly(as always)
the today's playercount is the proof of something wrong.
Up to ARUN.
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Maybe, if the HQ is bad to other players so why dont carbon recruit some ppl that are professional like djole, rei sop etc that can be good.
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The people who dont actually realize what is going on is the people who never managed to get on top and see the attempts to take you down are ridiculous/biased
i brought up facts once, i can do it again.. but the topic will get locked instantly(as always)
the today's playercount is the proof of something wrong.
Up to ARUN.
I am sure it won't be locked if you just bring facts up. Just make sure there's no personal attacks and lowkey provoking and it should be good
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We are here fixing issues not locking topics. This topic is important to a beginner player and a pro player same. Anyone here want suggestions or everything with issues he may say it here or in andeey's pm thats what he said.
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I am sure it won't be locked if you just bring facts up. Just make sure there's no personal attacks and lowkey provoking and it should be good
Locked and me&you warned as well.
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If me saying that Timon is a jackass for hacking the database offends you, I am not sorry at all. Post your screens all you want but your attempts are miserable.
All of this is because he banned Dennis? Lol k
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Locked and me&you warned as well.
Well i won't let ithat happen to me. What you do is up to you tho
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A little irrelevant to this topic.. but any news? http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=121145.0
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Salmonella you sound a bit hypocrite you know
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Salmonella you sound a bit hypocrite you know
If only a bit, a whole lot, more like it, calling hacker to kill a rival group and aid him in a shootout and then he pretends he is a freaking peacekeeper, out of all Cena done i respect him for revealing Sallmonelas true nature.
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Hello, I'm an old player some might recognize me and some might not, anyway when i came back to the server 2 weeks ago probably after 2-3 years of absence maybe 4, i was shocked by the amount of salt the server have and then discovered the amount of DM and i was like wtf is happening here ... so i started talking the admins and all of them was saying HQ want that, HQ want proofs, so morale of the story HQ was acting light against rulebreakers, dmers etc... i nearly talked to any admin everyone was responsive everyone wanted a solution, then asta took the torch and decided to report to the HQ and tried to shake them to act (i don't even know why you call it HQ now xD), then carbon decided to act again, and things changed like magic in one day multiple bans multiple warns etc.., Dmers started to double think before DMing, gang wars nearly stopped, everything started to run fine as the old days, then those rule breakers started to speak out loud and started to bash everyone and people was supporting them, wtf since then argonath community support rule breakers,i saw some veterans from the old days doing the same tho, so the problems doesn't reside in the HQ as HQ the problem reside in the salty community because it's been so long that someone didn't get punished, but if the server come back up in the near future i hope that will be a lesson to stop trashing the HQ and help them instead, because they hear you but you need to be resonable, sorry for the long post here is a potato! http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/011/269/potato.jpg
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If only a bit, a whole lot, more like it, calling hacker to kill a rival group and aid him in a shootout and then he pretends he is a freaking peacekeeper, out of all Cena done i respect him for revealing Sallmonelas true nature.
I don't know about that so i won't speak on it since the only thing i know about it comes from a video but i would like to remind you that someone who has contributed to bring SAMP community down in past shall not teach us the rules.
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Well, HQ's working on brining server back, and only way to get Argonath to where it was great, is to you /players involved/ to stop encouraging that who calls himself Unexpected Cena and thinks he's having fun and making their friends laugh. I've already had a view on who's involved, and I'm pretty sure some are either him or supporting him. It definitely is not one guy, I'm sure about that.
Sal, don't get wrong, but isn't it too obvious how you react to the hacker's actions on creating forum topics? You're here since a long god damn time, and yesterday's topic wouldn't be written in such sarcastic way even by a new player who knows nothing.. Guess we already know the truth.
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Sal, you should've to tell your fellow friends to get a life and move on and how come you don't know about your friend actions since you all are in a Discord group, stop being so smartass. Making such topics won't help you, we all know how innocent you are ;). Right now, the problem isn't the HQ, the problem is biased players who are calling hackers and/or helping them.
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Sal, you should've to tell your fellow friends to get a life and move on and how come you don't know about your friend actions since you all are in a Discord group, stop being so smartass. Making such topics doesn't help you, we all know how innocent you are ;). Right now, the problem isn't the HQ, the problem is biased players who are calling hackers and/or helping them.
Just because timon for example, or mikal is banned from argonath, does not mean i/sal/manymore doesn't have to keep relations with them, they were our friends and will remain to be outside argonath and that does not mean sal or anyone else is aiding timon/mikal hacking.
So you can stop talking shit and give other impressions to people.
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what the fuck is going on here
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Sal, you should've to tell your fellow friends to get a life and move on and how come you don't know about your friend actions since you all are in a Discord group, stop being so smartass. Making such topics doesn't help you, we all know how innocent you are ;). Right now, the problem isn't the HQ, the problem is biased players who are calling hackers and/or helping them.
No point shitting on Sal, he had nothing to do with it.
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we should just try to enjoy the game with each other
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anyone else having this issue on paruni???
can't type my password in to spawn
(http://i.imgur.com/rJOZUOL.png)
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Do u still able to go inside paruni? I tried many times to play in it but it is not responding in the client itself..
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Maybe you have old ip
here's the new one - game.paruni.net:7777
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Maybe you have old ip
here's the new one - game.paruni.net:7777
Lets play VC:MP? Its good, :D
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Maybe you have old ip
here's the new one - game.paruni.net:7777
Aww didn't know the new ip, now its working thx.
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Just because timon for example, or mikal is banned from argonath, does not mean i/sal/manymore doesn't have to keep relations with them, they were our friends and will remain to be outside argonath and that does not mean sal or anyone else is aiding timon/mikal hacking.
(https://image.ibb.co/ibWxvF/IMG_20170709_174126.jpg)
Cheers, brate. ;)
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No point shitting on Sal, he had nothing to do with it.
Ikr. :lol:
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Ikr. :lol:
You can spread how much shit you want but you have no idea what you are talking about.
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anyone else having this issue on paruni???
can't type my password in to spawn
(http://i.imgur.com/rJOZUOL.png)
Yeah me
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Ye me too can't able to login in paruni, it shows same thing like in the screenshot..
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(https://image.ibb.co/ibWxvF/IMG_20170709_174126.jpg)
Cheers, brate. ;)
Dont blur the names, all i see there is someone asking for help, probably memeing you infront of the 145 other players who participate in that discord.
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You can spread how much shit you want but you have no idea what you are talking about.
I ain't shitting, that's a fact either you accept it or not.
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If you want to discuss paruni, visit paruni forum. Server is broken and needs fixing. Now quit going off topic
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I came back recently and i saw something that doesn't happens since 2007-2009 (yes i'm around since 2007) that thing is admins acting like normal players and not like they're VIP because they're admins, that's why im still staying at server.
In my POV HQ is doing the best for the community.
The thing about the hackers, they are just mad because they can't play there and they're throwing shit to a community once they played and enjoyed their time here, that's really sad, but the truth is we're better without them.
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I ain't shitting, that's a fact either you accept it or not.
Okey so don't get me started on the hackingspree Luciano had, there's facts there aswell then! :)
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Okey so don't get me started on the hackingspree Luciano had, there's facts there aswell then! :)
How does that anything to do with the unexpected and people who support him?
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How does that anything to do with the unexpected and people who support him?
Becasue he keeps insisting that Sal had something to do with this when he did not perhaps?
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Becasue he keeps insisting that Sal had something to do with this when he did not perhaps?
I think people are rather accusing Sal of being aware of this and doing nothing about it, not helping them hack the server. Right?
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I think people are rather accusing Sal of being aware of this and doing nothing about it, not helping them hack the server. Right?
I doubt it.
Why would Salmonella hide it? Let's get the points straight lol.
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Its not bad to be friends with them nor to stick with them, we are here to have fun not to keep aruging with eachother and what will happen if u are their friend? Its ur own choice to be or not to be.
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I doubt it.
Why would Salmonella hide it? Let's get the points straight lol.
Sal doesnt want to get banned again 😂😂
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Becasue he keeps insisting that Sal had something to do with this when he did not perhaps?
I'm not saying sarmed is right but bringing up 'luciano hacking spree' sure doesn't prove him wrong either
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I doubt it.
Why would Salmonella hide it? Let's get the points straight lol.
It was just a personal opinion on the matter, but it still remains off topic.
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I've made alot of friendships there, mostly of them already left sa-mp or argonath, what one thing leads to the another? lol
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If me saying that Timon is a jackass for hacking the database offends you, I am not sorry at all. Post your screens all you want but your attempts are miserable.
Who said anything about being offended? I am just disappointed by your extremely unprofessional attitude as an administrator.
Salmonella you sound a bit hypocrite you know
If only a bit, a whole lot, more like it, calling hacker to kill a rival group and aid him in a shootout and then he pretends he is a freaking peacekeeper, out of all Cena done i respect him for revealing Sallmonelas true nature.
Sal doesnt want to get banned again 😂😂
I think people are rather accusing Sal of being aware of this and doing nothing about it, not helping them hack the server. Right?
(https://image.ibb.co/ibWxvF/IMG_20170709_174126.jpg)
Cheers, brate. ;)
This is SA:MP Admin Bruce, not me.
As for me ''ordering hackers'' or the Gvardia part of this community being so keen on assuming I am related to the hackers in any way at all, let me clear that up once and for all. I have nothing to hide and I have done nothing that warrants any form of punishment.
Basically, what happened once was me organizing an uprising RP as LV mayor. At the end, the SAPD killed everyone and after I died myself, I was quite tired of the entire situation so I quit and started doing something else. The next thing I know I'm being flooded with messages on a Discord server, saying that apparently a hacker logged in to kill all the cops or something. Then in mainchat, Petarda just went ahead and assumed I ''ordered them'' just because I didn't win in that roleplay situation. The hilarious stupidity displayed there by Petarda became a meme and now everyone jokingly says ''haha don't order hackers again sal!'' while I never did that and never will do something like that.
(http://i.imgur.com/bNN6jVo.png)
So please, excuse me, Mark, IV:MP admin super2ho that I have never met, Jovanca, Sarmed, Lawrence, Stivi, and other players that also happen to be strongly tied to Gvardia, get your facts straight before you start spewing rumours your friends have made up.
As for Unexpected Cena making a video where chatlogs are visible from Skype that say something like ''come ingame to kill gvardias!'', that is photoshopped. First of all, it's quite obviously photoshopped since he didn't even use the default Skype font, but I guess it's more convenient to assume I said something that doesn't look good for me. :rolleyes:
Second, my Skype name has never been ''Salmonella''
And third, I was actually asked by the person that made that to say those things, and said no because I didn't want anything to do with it:
[21-4-2017 00:36:05] Me: faggot
[21-4-2017 00:36:51] Hidden: hmm
[21-4-2017 00:36:56] Hidden: i need you to say
[21-4-2017 00:37:03] Hidden: something like
[21-4-2017 00:37:10] Hidden: "hey can you come IG and hack on gvardia?"
[21-4-2017 00:37:15] Hidden: i will put it on the video xD
[21-4-2017 00:38:24] Me: no
[21-4-2017 00:38:27] Me: i will get banned
[21-4-2017 00:38:32] Me: [Hidden name 2] asked me the same lol
[21-4-2017 00:38:46] Hidden: u can just say its faked... lmao
[21-4-2017 00:39:15] Oproep gemist van Hidden.
[21-4-2017 00:39:20] Me: FUCK OFF
[21-4-2017 00:39:23] Me: FAKE IT YOURSLF
So yeah, as much as I told the hackers to fuck off, I'll tell those accusing me of things for no reason at all to fuck off too. As for me being involved with the recent attacks, I am not involved at all. Just because I'm in a Discord that literally half the SA:MP playerbase is in, including a few admins, doesn't mean I am ''related'' to the attacks. Grow a pair of brains and while you're at it, grow a pair of balls if you wish to call people out, so you can do it in public and not gossip behind their backs.
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At the very least you are being hypocritical again. I didn't accuse you of anything or adressed you at all but i found myself in your list of people 'spreading rumors about you'. And i thought for a second we can have a civilized conversation. I forgot how salty you are
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At the very least you are being hypocritical again. I didn't accuse you of anything or adressed you at all but i found myself in your list of people 'spreading rumors about you'. And i thought for a second we can have a civilized conversation. I forgot how salty you are
You're not that important (to my post)
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You're not that important (to my post)
It doesn't really matter really. The way you talk to everyone who speaks against you is just wrong. None of the people here disrespected you called you stupid or anything like that yet your whole post is pretty much lowkey provocations and personal attacks
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It doesn't really matter really. The way you talk to everyone who speaks against you is just wrong. None of the people here disrespected you called you stupid or anything like that yet your whole post is pretty much lowkey provocations and personal attacks
Well if it is, he fits right in with the current administration of the server;
(http://i.imgur.com/9xbDzxB.png)
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The point is that you and the others I quoted are accusing me of things I've never done. Both ingame and here. Just because you didn't directly say ''sal ordered a hacker'' doesn't disqualify me from listing you as one of those people because you 'low-key' defend those that do.
If you're offended by the word ''stupid'' and ''fuck'' I advice you get a thicker skin on the internet.
And yeah, why do you always insist on pointing out minor things in my post while a.) that isn't the point of the post and b.) others like Astaroth do the same yet you stay put. That to me is hypocritical, rather than calling a liar spreading rumours ''stupid''.
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@Salmonella re-read my post, i clearly said i can't speak about that situation as all i know comes from a video of a hacker who loves memes, so what are you on about?
Who the hell cares about Gvardia, corleone, soprano, luciano and whatsoever paki group is still around? I'm not talking to you as one of them, i really don't get why we we must identify ourselves on a side in order to discuss.
You have been community banned before, reasons were clear and i think you shouldn't speak about rules at all considering your history. HQ doesn't need you tell them what to do either even if it's the shittiest we ever had.
You are not in the position to call the community out in this situation and pretend those who know your previous community bans not to react.
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So please, excuse me, Mark, IV:MP admin super2ho that I have never met, Jovanca, Sarmed, Lawrence, Stivi, and other players that also happen to be strongly tied to Gvardia, get your facts straight before you start spewing rumours your friends have made up.
I think people are rather accusing Sal of being aware of this and doing nothing about it, not helping them hack the server. Right?
It was just a personal opinion on the matter, but it still remains off topic.
As strongly tied to Gvardia I am, I didn't claim to have any fact. In fact, I was on your side this time, but sure, I'll take being a Gvardia as a valid argument to prove me wrong.
The point is that you and the others I quoted are accusing me of things I've never done. Both ingame and here. Just because you didn't directly say ''sal ordered a hacker'' doesn't disqualify me from listing you as one of those people because you 'low-key' defend those that do.
If you're offended by the word ''stupid'' and ''fuck'' I advice you get a thicker skin on the internet.
Did I?
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@Salmonella
You have been community banned before, reasons were clear and i think you shouldn't speak about rules at all considering your history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUy9_0M3bVk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUy9_0M3bVk
Keep going with non constructive posts, we will have more material to forum mute you.
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@Salmonella re-read my post, i clearly said i can't speak about that situation as all i know comes from a video of a hacker who loves memes, so what are you on about?
Who the hell cares about Gvardia, corleone, soprano, luciano and whatsoever paki group is still around? I'm not talking to you as one of them, i really don't get why we we must identify ourselves on a side in order to discuss.
You have been community banned before, reasons were clear and i think you shouldn't speak about rules at all considering your history. HQ doesn't need you tell them what to do either even if it's the shittiest we ever had.
You are not in the position to call the community out in this situation and pretend those who know your previous community bans not to react.
You're calling me a hypocrite and I assumed you sang your tune in the key others did it in, because this topic has turned into a ''Salmonella is with them, why take him seriously!?'' topic. Identifying with one of those groups makes more sense than to call someone out on having been community banned over four years ago. What's up with that? Brian used to be a banevader. Janek used to be a banevader. I even remember banning Andeey back in the day. Why do you have to bring up that I have been community banned? Why not bring up that I was also a SA:MP Admin for four years in a row?
I am in as much as a position to call the community out as anyone. If anything I am more qualified to do so, given my history on both sides of the spectrum, my experience and my current positions in this community. But yeah, I guess being banned in 2013 for being involved in photoshopping a penis superimposed on another player's face outweighs all that. As for the other community ban, that one was invalid from what I've gathered after talking to both Teddy (whom issued the ban) and the person I supposedly ''harrassed'' (Link9rly) about it.
But yeah, I guess ''reasons are all clear'' to Mark. I don't even know who you are and I have never talked to you about my bans, so maybe you are the one that should do some reading.
As strongly tied to Gvardia I am, I didn't claim to have any fact. In fact, I was on your side this time, but sure, I'll take being a Gvardia as a valid argument to prove me wrong.
Did I?
Not that I know of. I was talking to Jovanca whom I've seen say things like that ingame. You were hardly on my side. You were rephrasing those accusing me of things I'd never done to put them in a better light. Pointing out that all of you are on Gvardia's side to me is very relevant because that shows the motives you guys have, because apparently I am ''Gvardia hater #1''. :rolleyes:
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Not that I know of. I was talking to Jovanca whom I've seen say things like that ingame. You were hardly on my side. You were rephrasing those accusing me of things I'd never done to put them in a better light. Pointing out that all of you are on Gvardia's side to me is very relevant because that shows the motives you guys have, because apparently I am ''Gvardia hater #1''. :rolleyes:
I would have posted to back my post up, but since I didn't - I don't have any. You mentioned my name, quoted my post, that doesn't look like you were talking to Jovanca. Yes, I rephrased what I thought others were saying, also denying that you were involved in the hacking while doing so. Being part of a discord with literally half the player base of SA-MP doesn't make you a hacker and that was my opinion as well. Is that what you're trying to say? And even if I thought so I still didn't say anything that would accuse you, or back those accusing you right now.
Don't drag Gvardia in this at all, it really is not an argument.
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@Salmonella I'm not with gvardia and honestly i don't give a crap about picking a side, i stopped doing that since long now. So since i'm not on any side there is no need to point that out.
We've talked in past and i've seen you shitting and trolling during last year just like everyone else on "your" side, so pardon me if i don't want to see you trying to teach a moral to others. It's my opinion that you are not a valid example for other players of this community and in part it is true that someone from HQ should show up but as i said previously, that guy is not you.
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Keep going with non constructive posts, we will have more material to forum mute you.
Judging someone from his past is constructive to you? shot me with a bow please.
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The point is that you and the others I quoted are accusing me of things I've never done. Both ingame and here. Just because you didn't directly say ''sal ordered a hacker'' doesn't disqualify me from listing you as one of those people because you 'low-key' defend those that do.
If you're offended by the word ''stupid'' and ''fuck'' I advice you get a thicker skin on the internet.
And yeah, why do you always insist on pointing out minor things in my post while a.) that isn't the point of the post and b.) others like Astaroth do the same yet you stay put. That to me is hypocritical, rather than calling a liar spreading rumours ''stupid''.
I didn't defend anyone. Just pointed out that 'luciano hacking spree' has nothing to do with anything we're discussing on this topic.
Being disrespectful when talking to everyone who disagrees with you is not a minor thing.
Stay put? Just like when John and idk who else brought up bans in that topic the other day and as soon as Djole replied to it you told him to quit derailing the topic? See what i mean by 'hypocrite'?
You got the wrong idea of why i called you a hypocrite. It's rather because you said we should keep prejudice out of this community but still had to point out that the players calling you out are affiliated with Gvardia.
I don't get offended by words stupid and fuck but since this is supposed to be a community and all i think there's no need for such language. But i guess you don't think the same way, and that makes you a stupid fuck.
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I would have posted to back my post up, but since I didn't - I don't have any. You mentioned my name, quoted my post, that doesn't look like you were talking to Jovanca. Yes, I rephrased what I thought others were saying, also denying that you were involved in the hacking while doing so. Being part of a discord with literally half the player base of SA-MP doesn't make you a hacker and that was my opinion as well. Is that what you're trying to say? And even if I thought so I still didn't say anything that would accuse you, or back those accusing you right now.
Don't drag Gvardia in this at all, it really is not an argument.
Glad to hear that you can use logic and reasoning. Your posts made it look as if you were defending those ganging up on me, which is why I included you. Given that everyone that appeared to be attacking me was related to Gvardia, I pointed that out too because that to me is a comical coincidence.
@Salmonella I'm not with gvardia and honestly i don't give a crap about picking a side, i stopped doing that since long now. So since i'm not on any side there is no need to point that out.
We've talked in past and i've seen you shitting and trolling during last year just like everyone else on "your" side, so pardon me if i don't want to see you trying to teach a moral to others. It's my opinion that you are not a valid example for other players of this community and in part it is true that someone from HQ should show up but as i said previously, that guy is not you.
Okay, that is your opinion and as much as I disagree, I can respect that. However, listing a community ban from 2013 that you don't know jack-shit about doesn't make sense at all. If you feel like I've been shitting and trolling recently, then I get your stance, as much as I know I have done no such thing to great extents.
I didn't defend anyone. Just pointed out that 'luciano hacking spree' has nothing to do with anything we're discussing on this topic.
Being disrespectful when talking to everyone who disagrees with you is not a minor thing.
Stay put? Just like when John and idk who else brought up bans in that topic the other day and as soon as Djole replied to it you told him to quit derailing the topic? See what i mean by 'hypocrite'?
You got the wrong idea of why i called you a hypocrite. It's rather because you said we should keep prejudice out of this community but still had to point out that the players calling you out are affiliated with Gvardia.
I don't get offended by words stupid and fuck but since this is supposed to be a community and all i think there's no need for such language. But i guess you don't think the same way, and that makes you a stupid fuck.
You fail to make sense and you're actually insulting me now, while I haven't insulted anyone lol
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You fail to make sense and you're actually insulting me now, while I haven't insulted anyone lol
Nah you just failed to understand.
If you're offended by the word ''stupid'' and ''fuck'' I advice you get a thicker skin on the internet.
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And to have people i once called "friends" talk behind my back and not say to my face what the problem is, Was pretty damn disrespectful.
Damn these guys are bunch of assholes for shitting on other people for no reason I must say
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Okay, that is your opinion and as much as I disagree, I can respect that. However, listing a community ban from 2013 that you don't know jack-shit about doesn't make sense at all. If you feel like I've been shitting and trolling recently, then I get your stance, as much as I know I have done no such thing to great extents.
Amen on you for admitting it. However i do know a part of the story behind those two episodes but i won't go OT further as i have already shared my opinion.
Judging someone from his past is constructive to you? shot me with a bow please.
You fail to insult others unless you are being straight with your thought so why do you even try if you don't make any sense? Don't you realize how dumb your comments are whenever someone speaks negatively to your friends? This is the last time i'm going to reply to you here, you've been forum warned before and this is just a friendly alert from a board mod, stop trashing the forums.
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You fail to insult others unless you are being straight with your thought so why do you even try if you don't make any sense? Don't you realize how dumb your comments are whenever someone speaks negatively to your friends? This is the last time i'm going to reply to you here, you've been forum warned before and this is just a friendly alert from a board mod, stop trashing the forums.
Now im dumb because i clearly pointed out your bullshit, sorry ser, i wont do it again :(
I have been forum warned, i have no right to post anymore according to you, go get some sleep.
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A guy that's been community banned, that's been constantly provoking and insulting people both in game and on forums, personal as well as based on a whole nation, a guy that still has a troll signature about the server, a guy that only seeeks attention, running around every single topic, commenting random shit in hope to start a shitstorm, a guy that has indirectly supported the hacking on the server comes and makes a topic about community and then starts defending himself.
Then we also have Rei, acting smart as per usual, when he's one of those that started the whole hacking mania with his friends cause they couldn't win a fight, somehow he's still here. Shit happen when you're desperate.
Good fucking job guys, you made my day. I'll be looking forward to more of these topics when this one gets locked.
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Now im dumb because i clearly pointed out your bullshit, sorry ser, i wont do it again :(
I have been forum warned, i have no right to post anymore according to you, go get some sleep.
He said your comments are dumb. And he only told you to be careful not that you have no rights to post.
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I would like to order, hmmm.. a tunnel that leads me from rodeo to avispa and, associate it with a bunch of c4 at the entrace, i know it comes as a pacage with a one year ban but i'll separate it and pick only the tunnel, thankyou.
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Haha the same motherfuckers who've been constantly poisoning this Community for years now, and are mostly responsible for the toxicity in this Community, going that low to announce people's real life information and troll around with it, wants the rules to be enforced fully.
I agree, enforce the rules fully, start by Community Baning people who were already Community Banned by different HQ, in some cases 2 different HQs, and who didn't stop after getting unbanned, on a contrary, they became worse then ever, specially when it comes to those constant idiotic attempts of real life harassmen, there should be zero tolerance with that shit, no discussion about it.
The fact those people have sociopathic illness proven so many times, with different individuals, even with their friends, as well as the outbursting complex issue of rejecting that they developed is sad, but those guys with such behavior and with the consequences that they created, should be completely removed from the Community without anyone having any objections, no matter how good of a friends they are.
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Now im dumb because i clearly pointed out your bullshit, sorry ser, i wont do it again :(
I have been forum warned, i have no right to post anymore according to you, go get some sleep.
Since you fail to understand anything we tell you i have to post again:
Dumb comments =// calling you out dumb;
Giving you a warning =// you have no right to post (unless your intent is to provoke a flame like below, funny or not, you're only bringing more OT to the topic)
I would like to order, hmmm.. a tunnel that leads me from rodeo to avispa and, associate it with a bunch of c4 at the entrace, i know it comes as a pacage with a one year ban but i'll separate it and pick only the tunnel, thankyou.
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A guy that's been community banned
In 2013. How many times did you get banned again? Have you passed the dozen yet?
that's been constantly provoking and insulting people both in game and on forums
Outright untrue. This topic alone proves that.
personal as well as based on a whole nation
Having a Serbian flag as signature = provocation and insulting a nation I guess?
a guy that still has a troll signature about the server
Eh, not my fault we don't share the same sense of humour. I don't know what a ''troll signature is'' but it certainly isn't this.
a guy that only seeeks attention, running around every single topic, commenting random shit in hope to start a shitstorm
I don't do this either. I try to put ends to shitstorms that people like you try to instill constantly.
a guy that has indirectly supported the hacking on the server comes and makes a topic about community and then starts defending himself.
I never supported hacking, not directly nor indirectly. I am defending myself against liars like you that go out of their way just to paint me black for personal reasons.
Good fucking job guys, you made my day. I'll be looking forward to more of these topics when this one gets locked.
Get out of here if you can't be constructive and work towards a better community.
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Haha the same motherfuckers who've been constantly poisoning this Community for years now, and are mostly responsible for the toxicity in this Community, going that low to announce people's real life information and troll around with it, wants the rules to be enforced fully.
I agree, enforce the rules fully, start by Community Baning people who were already Community Banned by different HQ, in some cases 2 different HQs, and who didn't stop after getting unbanned, on a contrary, they became worse then ever, specially when it comes to those constant idiotic attempts of real life harassmen, there should be zero tolerance with that shit, no discussion about it.
The fact those people have sociopathic illness proven so many times, with different individuals, even with their friends, as well as the outbursting complex issue of rejecting that they developed is sad, but those guys with such behavior and with the consequences that they created, should be completely removed from the Community without anyone having any objections, no matter how good of a friends they are.
Hey @jovanca please give this guy a lesson on being respectful, not insulting and lowkey provoking others! I'm sure your wisdom applies to everyone.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCYyRM8ff9A
Mate, im done with you.. you clearly change subject every time you fail to defend what you just said, i dont have enough nerves now to make a trip around the world with you.
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Hey @jovanca please give this guy a lesson on being respectful, not insulting and lowkey provoking others! I'm sure your wisdom applies to everyone.
Hmm i see nothing wrong with it.
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Sal, I didn't insult you, I told the facts about your innocence and you got triggered by my post, the way you replied to me isn't acceptable on the forums but ok, I don't mind it because you had been taught like this. ;)
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Hey @jovanca please give this guy a lesson on being respectful, not insulting and lowkey provoking others! I'm sure your wisdom applies to everyone.
Give him a lesson on how to punctuate a paragraph while you're at it.
Research what a "run on sentence" is please.
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Give him a lesson on how to punctuate a paragraph while you're at it.
Research what a "run on sentence" is please.
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Being respectful toward people who've done such things to this Community goes against any decency and logic, why would any normal human being with a minimum decency in themselves have a problem with that?
Oh because you found yourself among those people.. If you committed such awful things over the years, then you got no right to moan about the fact that someone else pointed that history of behavior based on undeniable facts.
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A guy that's been community banned, that's been constantly provoking and insulting people both in game and on forums, personal as well as based on a whole nation, a guy that still has a troll signature about the server, a guy that only seeeks attention, running around every single topic, commenting random shit in hope to start a shitstorm, a guy that has indirectly supported the hacking on the server comes and makes a topic about community and then starts defending himself.
This is lit, let's not hide things with /me extends his opinion in a constructive manner. This is the truth, people claiming "i just returned and i dont know shit, gvardia is just salty" should read this 10 times. Because a.) Autism b.) Hate
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Anything about the server it i still locked
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Anything about the server it i still locked
You should focus on your unban request and stop asking for the same questions several times. Management is already working to fix the server issues and an announcement will be given once they are done.
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You should focus on your unban request and stop asking for the same questions several times. Management is already working to fix the server issues and an announcement will be given once they are done.
Andeey said if the server was fixed and okay he would unban me
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Topic was about one thing, and all the sudden the two sides which are the biggest poison of the community show up barking at eachother. Here we have people with more bans on their history than a weed farmer has kicks for flooding, talking to people about being community banned. We have the whole Serbia vs World. That's what makes people leave you know, when San Andreas turns into a battleground for arguments and conflicts out of the game.
The problem is not with hackers or shitty HQ, it's the shitty player mindset. Powergaming(Play2win) and getting into the constant group based conflicts, it pushes players away.
There is no new content, RP is not improving. From time to time we get these groups who actually RP and shift things on the server toward something positive, but then they realize half the server cares about killing that ex-Yugo guy who just came online more than they care about any sort of Roleplay, and said group that actually bring ground for improvement closes down and the players leave the community.
If you wish to fix a problem, look at yourself and see how you're contributing to it. SA:MP is dead, new players are recruited by the OFFICIAL TOP RP GROUPS OF 2001 RUNNING THE STREETS OF SAN ANDREAS and forced to grind meth, weed and what not, following their leaders mindlessly around so when that Sultan full of rivals shows up, they have a chance to win.
Get back Roleplaying, get back bringing new content and meeting up with the higher standards of quality groups. Argonath is turning to shit, because most of the regulars are fine with the state it is, because their buddies are admins and their groups control half the server, leaving no place for a newcomer. It's your fault guys, not HQs, not Gvardia, not NBA, not FLA, not Unexpected Cena, it's YOUR FAULT. Everyone's. Instead of barking in threads like this, speak up and propose what YOU are going to do, not what HQ or whoever the fuck should.
>inb4 "says the inactive guy", well I dropped my activity for a reason.
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Huh, you are the one to talk. If we're gonna throw criticism left and right lets atleast make sure that we are the brightest flowers in the garden, alright? Past bans should not be a reason to dismiss someones pretty valid concerns over abuse of power.
What are you talking about dude? I never witnessed a case where either Acika or any of his members did this kind of harm to the community, daily joining the server to cause chaos and disturb others gameplay. Neither I recall Acika calling over discord certain people to hack in any shootout because they were too butthurt to fight properly and they wanted to get some fun at the end of it. Guess what they all act innocent now. Should I also mention that their "asslicked group" lost their recognized status due to it? Get your facts stright people and if you don't know shit you shouldn't talk about it. Ciao.
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Shout out to mappers who play on argonath, we need improvements in the map, something that brings more gangs and less Mafias, we already have enough mafias...
Later i will hit up with some maps.
And also the new weed system only provokes shitload of dm between cops and criminals, and between criminals and criminals, the meth system is good but the weed one, nops its not so good i liked the old one.
Improve the trucking job because almost every players are just spamming the truck job to earn easy money and do not roleplay shit on it just driving point to point.
In there much people only cares about the money not about the roleplay
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Improve the trucking job because almost every players are just spamming the truck job to earn easy money and do not roleplay shit on it just driving point to point.
In there much people only cares about the money not about the roleplay
i am for an improvement of the trucking job too. while its nice to make easy and relativly fast money, it gets really boring, since its just driving from point to point.
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The harsh and sad truth is that, without any offense, yesterday's kids grew up. Everyone now has their own ideals and are stumbled upon it, it's all about their own interest, not others'. I will exagerate a tiny bit and I will say that we all lost our empathy towards each other by pursuing our own goals, which aren't always the best. This has led to such a civil war in this Community.. well, "Community", because this isn't one, a real Community would be one with people that share common interests and if not, at least have the decency of respecting other's opinions. Meanwhile, here, we made a bad habit of shitting on each other to feel good for ourselves.
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Last 2 pages cleaned, keep it constructive not personal.
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Last 2 pages cleaned, keep it constructive not personal.
Thanks, hopefully it'll start being fruitful rather than the shitshow it's been today as Greasy pointed out.
I hope HQ will come with a statement very soon. The players deserve to know what's going on. That's what service is.
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Topic was about one thing, and all the sudden the two sides which are the biggest poison of the community show up barking at eachother. Here we have people with more bans on their history than a weed farmer has kicks for flooding, talking to people about being community banned. We have the whole Serbia vs World. That's what makes people leave you know, when San Andreas turns into a battleground for arguments and conflicts out of the game.
The problem is not with hackers or shitty HQ, it's the shitty player mindset. Powergaming(Play2win) and getting into the constant group based conflicts, it pushes players away.
There is no new content, RP is not improving. From time to time we get these groups who actually RP and shift things on the server toward something positive, but then they realize half the server cares about killing that ex-Yugo guy who just came online more than they care about any sort of Roleplay, and said group that actually bring ground for improvement closes down and the players leave the community.
If you wish to fix a problem, look at yourself and see how you're contributing to it. SA:MP is dead, new players are recruited by the OFFICIAL TOP RP GROUPS OF 2001 RUNNING THE STREETS OF SAN ANDREAS and forced to grind meth, weed and what not, following their leaders mindlessly around so when that Sultan full of rivals shows up, they have a chance to win.
Get back Roleplaying, get back bringing new content and meeting up with the higher standards of quality groups. Argonath is turning to shit, because most of the regulars are fine with the state it is, because their buddies are admins and their groups control half the server, leaving no place for a newcomer. It's your fault guys, not HQs, not Gvardia, not NBA, not FLA, not Unexpected Cena, it's YOUR FAULT. Everyone's. Instead of barking in threads like this, speak up and propose what YOU are going to do, not what HQ or whoever the fuck should.
>inb4 "says the inactive guy", well I dropped my activity for a reason.
Even though i agree with most of what you said i don't see the reason to call it 'whole Serbia vs world'. It doesn't make much sense and i am really not sure what anyone's nationallity has to do with the ongoing 'war' on the server
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The community in Argonath was always fine. But people get roleplay to serious.
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Keep this topic clean from now on or this one will be locked as well.
If there's a report you wish to make, contact the respective server's leaders or the owners directly instead of shitting on other people on the forums with your assumptions.
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My point is that VC:MP roleplay is different than SA:MP (its just my opinion ofc). I don't wanna make anyone harm ofc :) but in VC you could be a police officer, and another day a criminal. One nickname... multiple options. Nobody cares that time about that. In SA:MP everyone stick to one character creating name that is specify to his role (good and bad idea at once).
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sorry if dinosaur like me speaks
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My point is that VC:MP roleplay is different than SA:MP (its just my opinion ofc). I don't wanna make anyone harm ofc :) but in VC you could be a police officer, and another day a criminal. One nickname... multiple options. Nobody cares that time about that. In SA:MP everyone stick to one character creating name that is specify to his role (good and bad idea at once).
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sorry if dinosaur like me speaks
you are wrong. a lot of people stick to a single name and only add/remove the tag of the group they join.
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Am i? And your in game name is "Jov_Weber" and forum "jovanca"? :gand: :D
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My point is that VC:MP roleplay is different than SA:MP (its just my opinion ofc). I don't wanna make anyone harm ofc :) but in VC you could be a police officer, and another day a criminal. One nickname... multiple options. Nobody cares that time about that. In SA:MP everyone stick to one character creating name that is specify to his role (good and bad idea at once).
This is basically still true, to a certain extent in VC:MP ;)
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Am i? And your in game name is "Jov_Weber" and forum "jovanca"? :gand: :D
Yea i decided to add a surname because people kept calling me 'Jovanca' while i have a different character called that. Some people do change names but still, most of people stick to one name.
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sorry if dinosaur like me speaks
Nice to see you back pal, i hope to see you IG (SA:MP) :)
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welcome Legoman
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My point is that VC:MP roleplay is different than SA:MP (its just my opinion ofc). I don't wanna make anyone harm ofc :) but in VC you could be a police officer, and another day a criminal. One nickname... multiple options. Nobody cares that time about that. In SA:MP everyone stick to one character creating name that is specify to his role (good and bad idea at once).
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sorry if dinosaur like me speaks
While you're right to an extent about the character stuff (even although that's gone through a lot of change over the years on SA:MP as well, from relaxed to strict to relaxed to strict to semi-relaxed, etc.), the topic's mainly about issues going on right now that seem to be quite integral to how the SA:MP community functions right now.
I was hoping to get a constructive discussion going about that between the current HQ and all the players. However, the only post made by HQ so far was Andeey's which completely failed to address anything I said and in turn the players failed to address anything Andeey said, as little as he really did say.
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welcome Legoman
Nice to see you back pal, i hope to see you IG (SA:MP) :)
Hi guys. And yes i might check whats going on. I am wondering about IV:MP, but after vacations... still have the disc.