Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP Unban Requests => Topic started by: Nylez on July 22, 2017, 11:50:11 pm
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Nylez
Approximate date of getting banned: February 2017
Reason of getting banned: Massive amount of rulebreaking
Further information:
So I was bored while playing Argo VCMP, so I entertained myself in ways other players didn't really like. It was with rulebreaking. I killed people without proper roleplay and annoyed them so much they reported me. This kept on going for about a month, a few tempbans and eventually Kessu had enough of all the whining from other people, and obviously my rulebreaking, so I got banned.
Well deserved ban, as I probably was a big pain to deal with. I am deeply sorry for all the kind souls I may have hurt in the process of achieving entertainment. I shall try to entertain myself without annoying other people in the future.
Any more questions I'll try to answer as accurate as possible in the future.
Thanks.
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I shall try to entertain myself without annoying other people in the future.
Elaborate on how you will prevent yourself from rulebreaking if unbanned. Tell us how you will act differently to before, and please give an example (scenario).
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Well when I used to be a cop, I just annoyed civilians so much they would either kill me, or drive away from me so they'd be suspected and I could kill them. I did this about 25 times a day.
I know, obviously, that this is a rulebreak. It's pretty much criminal baiting.
In the future I'll just either go afk like you do, or patrol in general and approach the civilians in a polite way, as they're all my friends!
Also, less triggerhappy, that is a thing I'll focus on.
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Being more polite would be a good start. You struggle to be friendly towards players. Why is that?
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Why would you say that? Even after I resigned as a mod I helped new players out by teaching them how to play. The regulars that annoy me get shit from me, sure. But that's how it works on Argonath. Everyone banters with everyone, and I'm no exception.
Okay I may be a bit more mean than the majority, but I don't see this as a huge problem.
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Why would you say that?
Because of the many reports of trolling and annoying players.
The regulars that annoy me get shit from me, sure. Okay I may be a bit more mean than the majority, but I don't see this as a huge problem.
Well now is the time to change that attitude. It's very easy to over step the line and go too far. I would encourage you to try and banter less often and avoid heated discussions ingame.
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Well I'll be honest, I LOVE discussing with other people and get them annoyed. It's entertaining to me. Like I said to them back then, they're whiny bastards because they just didn't like me as a person very much, so they reported me for trolling. I'm not gonna deny all the rulebreaking I did, but I'm not gonna become a completely new person for a few weeks just to make everyone happy while I'm not genuine about it.
I can obviously tone it down a bit, be a bit nicer. But I'm an asshole and you don't just change that.
I picked the easy targets to troll because I KNEW it would set them off. You yourself should be familiar with this. When I'm bored, I seek entertainment. But I did it in the wrong way.
If it's absolutely necessary for me to become a nice guy to everyone ingame regardless of their actions and/or behavior, you might as well deny me right now as I will treat people the way they act, and I believe it should be like this.
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Obviously not everyone on the server is friends with every other player. That won't ever be reality.
However...
Every player is to abide by the server rules. This means you, I, and any other player cannot openly insult or troll players regardless about how you feel about them. I am asking for you to tone it down, and "banter less often and avoid heated discussions ingame". This is important, as well as the points about being less triggerhappy and not cop baiting.
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criminal baiting*
I never cop baited, I baited civilians as a cop.
Anyways irrelevant.
I cannot guarantee that I will stop trolling people on the server, but I can guarantee that I won't do it as bad as I used to. I'll make sure people will no longer shout that they want me to leave because I ruin it for everybody.
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I can guarantee that I won't do it as bad as I used to. I'll make sure people will no longer shout that they want me to leave because I ruin it for everybody.
That isn't enough. I want you to guarantee I won't have any reason to ban you again for trolling.
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I can't guarantee that without lying about it.
Because some people handle being trolled differently than others.
And as I said before, I am not gonna be a nice guy to everyone because some of the people might get offended because I want to have fun.
It inevitably is gonna happen certain people are gonna complain about me again. I can limit my trolling, but it's not completely gonna disappear.
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It inevitably is gonna happen certain people are gonna complain about me again. I can limit my trolling, but it's not completely gonna disappear.
People are always going to rage, complain, and have tantrums now and again. I'm not asking you to promise me you'll never get a single report or complaint because that would be totally unreasonable. But what I am asking from you, is to guarantee me that a report is not going to appear that is going to make me have to ban you. This involves any trolling using insults, racism, religious hatred, and other personal stuff that is far beyond any kind of banter. Tone it down, and avoid personal comments and do not flame other players. If you cannot guarantee this, you won't be unbanned.
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Then it's simple, I either have to lie and promise those things, or I won't be unbanned. And therefore, it's the latter. I am gonna be calling people a fucking idiot if they run me over for example. And if a Paki is being an idiot I will call them a fkin Paki retard. That is gonna happen and you know it's gonna happen.
Can I be a helpful guy for new players and teach them how to play? Sure I can!
Can I keep myself from telling people what I think about them? Sure I can!
Will I try my best to get along with people and have fun together with them by quality roleplaying? Definitely!
Am I gonna get personal when someone is doing something stupid? Very likely!
If someone is talking shit about me in mainchat, am I gonna reply to it? Very likely!
You know how I am, we've played together for years. I can be less racist, I can be more respectful to others and roleplay like the best of them. But people need to deserve it, and not all of them do deserve this.
I can guarantee I will treat people well if they do the same.
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If someone is talking shit about me in mainchat, am I gonna reply to it? Very likely!
What about reporting them, so administrators can do their job?
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Some things you should handle yourself, only things that get out of hand should be dealt with by the administrators.
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Things will get out of hand if you choose to rulebreak in retaliation to rulebreak.
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Ok. I understand
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I've got one question to you, and it's the one I want you to answer with honesty.
Do you really want to come back to enjoy the server like you once did during our time in EAF, which is when your behaviour was up to par with the rules, or do you want to come back to stir more shit up like last time I unbanned you?
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Combination of both.
I like the roleplaying I did back in the day, but I also like to stir shit up every now and then.
I'll just make sure I won't do it as blatantly stupid and obvious as I did it at the end, because I just didn't care at all about get banned.
Being fully honest here.
Are there gonna be situations where someone gets salty because of the way I play? Oh damn right it's gonna happen, because we can't please everyone with the way we play.
But I'm definitely gonna try to not make it look like I'm harassing them, or purposely annoy other players, in a rulebreaking way, purely for my own entertainment.
My words won't be enough to prove it, but I guess I'll just have to show it ingame, if I ever get this chance.
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My words won't be enough to prove it, but I guess I'll just have to show it ingame, if I ever get this chance.
I'm willing to give you that chance but don't expect any leniency from me or anyone else in the administration. You have enough experience to know what is unacceptable here.
1. No criminal baiting/cop baiting.
2. Less triggerhappy
3. Less bantering / provoking / flaming
Unbanned