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Title: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Senate on November 06, 2017, 12:59:35 pm
This is just an idea, put here to be criticized and discussed.


Plates:

Each player owned vehicle will receive a unique, 7 digit license plate.
Players may purchase custom plates at the DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) for $10k +/-
State vehicles plate will simply be "STATE"

Plate numbers will be shown in one of two ways.
Upon entering a vehicle the plate will be displayed where the fuel and speedometer are located.
By typing /plate playerID while within range, the range will be the same range currently used with /speed. The return text will be VehicleModel Plate#


Registration:

Player owned vehicles will need to be registered to legally drive on Liberty City streets and highways.
Registration can be payed at the DMV and will expire 7 days after purchase.

Fees:

1-3 owned vehicles: $50 per vehicle
4-7 owned vehicles $75 per vehicle
8-9 owned vehicles $100 per vehicle
10+ owned vehicles $150 per vehicle

Registration can be payed by going to the DMV and typing /payregistration. After typing the command a list of owned vehicles will appear showing which dates the vehicles were last paid. Typing /payregistration [plate#] will renew that vehicles registration making it legal to drive for the next 7 days. The registration will act as a simple 7 day timer, a player may renew early to reset the timer if they so desire. Stored vehicles do not need to be registered, and will receive no penalty or late fees for being unpaid.

When renewing a vehicle with expired registration it is recommended to visit the DMV in a State vehicle or an owned vehicle with current registration as driving with expired registration would be considered a traffic violation and is probable cause for a traffic stop.


Impound

Police Officers can check the status of a vehicles registration but the mechanism will vary depending on a few circumstances.

Typing /runplate [plate#] in the drivers seat of a police vehicle while stopped will return with VehicleModel PlateID, Valid from Date, or Expired on Date. The vehicle must remain stopped for 5 seconds after running the plate before the information will appear, any movement will cancel the process.

Typing /runplate [plate#] in the passenger seat of a police vehicle (while on duty) while in motion or stopped will return with VehicleModel PlateID, Valid Date, or Expired Date after 5 seconds.

If a Police Officer finds a vehicle being driven with expired registration they may conduct a traffic stop on the vehicle, they may not /suspect a player for driving with expired registration.

The police Officer has the option to impound the vehicle, or give the driver a warning and a ticket costing $100.

To impound the vehicle the police officer must enter the passenger seat (to prevent abuse and drive-by impounding) and type /impoundvehicle [plate#]. This will render the vehicle inoperable, the same way a vehicle behaves when it runs out of fuel.

After this is done any mechanics on duty will receive a message stating that a vehicle is available for impound, mechanics going on duty can also type /impounds to see if there are any vehicles needing to be impounded, this command will show active impounds with plate numbers. They can then type /startimpound [plate#] to get gps coordinates to the vehicle needing to be impounded.

The mechanic will get a red X (like gps) showing the location of the vehicle, they will respond to that location with a flatbed truck, once in range of the vehicle they will type /impoundvehicle [plate#].  At this time the vehicle will go into the impound storage where it will be unavailable for retrieval for 24 hours. The mechanic will earn $250 for using a state flatbed, or $500 for using an owned flatbed.

To retrieve a vehicle the owner must go to the current impound yard (Fishmarket PD) and use /retrievevehicle. Retrieval will cost $200 or $500 if the player was a suspect at the time the officer ordered the vehicle impounded.


Thats all for now, might be forgetting some small details. The prices can be lowered or raised, the point is not to have players paying a lot of money but rather to add some variety and tasks to the game, and also tax those with many vehicles.

Flame away...
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: AnoneteX on November 06, 2017, 01:06:50 pm
The prices are realistic to real life, but not realistic compared to the wages from server jobs, I suggest to raise them a bit. As for the custom plate, 10k sounds good. Supported
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: superh2o on November 06, 2017, 01:09:48 pm
If you have money to own 10+ vehicles you should pay even more, will this system enable a group to register vehicles instead of individuall player?
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: about10pandas on November 06, 2017, 01:15:26 pm
Oh this would be good. Custom license plate FTW!  Supported
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Senate on November 06, 2017, 01:18:53 pm
will this system enable a group to register vehicles instead of individuall player?

Well I guess anyone with the plate number could pay it, I see no reason to prohibit that.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Norrage on November 06, 2017, 01:30:11 pm
One word, supported.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Nadim Jones on November 06, 2017, 01:36:34 pm
I totally support. A new way to role play.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: William Carter on November 06, 2017, 01:37:21 pm
One word, supported.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Mac Taylor on November 06, 2017, 01:46:29 pm
A good idea but I think that mechanics when they go to impound vehicle I suggest they state the reason of impounding to avoid any abuse and when the owner goes to impound storage he get message with the one who impounded his vehicle and the reason that would be better in my opinion
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Endri on November 06, 2017, 01:54:57 pm
Supported This way will be nice to make more RP, great idea.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: del333del on November 06, 2017, 02:15:13 pm
SUPPORTED
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: JackDockz on November 06, 2017, 03:30:56 pm
Supported. But i think you should leave the vehicle impounding to ranked cops.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: louay on November 06, 2017, 03:56:02 pm
I totally support. A new way to role play.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Joey on November 06, 2017, 04:11:35 pm
Currently we do have a 4 digit unique number for every vehicle.
Name - Turismo | Kms Driven - 50 | Plate - 1979 | Price - 284.000$

Name - SuperGT | Kms Driven - 4400 | Plate - 1225 | Price - 300.000$
This is a fixed ID and dsnt change with server restart or anything. But yeah custom numbers and 7 digits also sounds good and maybe we could use alphabets aswell and not only just numbers.

Also,
The prices are realistic to real life, but not realistic compared to the wages from server jobs, I suggest to raise them a bit.Supported
If you have money to own 10+ vehicles you should pay even more
This is not a one time fee, you will be paying this every week.

Registration can be payed at the DMV and will expire 7 days after purchase.
Typing /payregistration [plate#] will renew that vehicles registration making it legal to drive for the next 7 days. The registration will act as a simple 7 day timer, a player may renew early to reset the timer if they so desire.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Surena on November 06, 2017, 04:22:54 pm
When renewing a vehicle with expired registration it is recommended to visit the DMV in a State vehicle or an owned vehicle with current registration as driving with expired registration would be considered a traffic violation and is probable cause for a traffic stop.

Mhm, we can load the vehicle that has its registration expired for months and then grab a state/owned car to visit the DMV and purchase a 7-days registration?
Please elaborate the underlined text.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Joey on November 06, 2017, 04:27:27 pm
Mhm, we can load the vehicle that has its registration expired for months and then grab a state/owned car to visit the DMV and purchase a 7-days registration?
Please elaborate the underlined text.
It means that you don't need to load the vehicle that has expired registration, but you can use a vehicle with an active registration.
Registration can be payed by going to the DMV and typing /payregistration. After typing the command a list of owned vehicles will appear showing which dates the vehicles were last paid. Typing /payregistration [plate#] will renew that vehicles registration making it legal to drive for the next 7 days.
You don't need to take the particular vehicle there.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: JackDockz on November 06, 2017, 04:29:24 pm
 7 days feel kinda less. 10 days may be good
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Joey on November 06, 2017, 04:30:55 pm
Its not less if you are active enough.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Advik on November 06, 2017, 04:40:23 pm
Well, I have a small problem. Why can't it be a one-time fee for 1 plate - for 1 car - the whole time? if you keep it 7 days, many poor people (like me) could not pay 10000$ in 1 week. if they dont pay, its illegal. and there are a bunch of poor people, who cannot pay, thus, freecops can use the CMD, used in the idea, and cause havoc to the server.

i support this, but keep $10000 as a one-time fee for a plate...
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: B_ob on November 06, 2017, 04:43:22 pm
The custom plate would be a one-time payment, if you have it customised.

The fees that would be per week:

1-3 owned vehicles: $50 per vehicle
4-7 owned vehicles $75 per vehicle
8-9 owned vehicles $100 per vehicle
10+ owned vehicles $150 per vehicle
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Advik on November 06, 2017, 04:52:25 pm
and also, where exactly, would we be doing the /payregistration CMD? I dont think LC has an established DMV - I think there is one on the 3rd island...
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Joey on November 06, 2017, 05:03:47 pm
and also, where exactly, would we be doing the /payregistration CMD? I dont think LC has an established DMV - I think there is one on the 3rd island...
Its an idea, it's not implemented yet.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Senate on November 06, 2017, 05:14:05 pm
There is no place picked out, DMV could share space with SSDS or a new building could be found for it.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: AnoneteX on November 06, 2017, 06:07:52 pm
There is no place picked out, DMV could share space with SSDS or a new building could be found for it.
The Liberty Transport Authority building could be a good place for it, it's right next to FBI HQ in Broker. Finally a use for it and this way more buildings will have a meaning and actually be used for something.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Semirak on November 06, 2017, 06:10:25 pm

Fees:

1-3 owned vehicles: $50 per vehicle
4-7 owned vehicles $75 per vehicle
8-9 owned vehicles $100 per vehicle
10+ owned vehicles $150 per vehicle


RIP joey  :lol:
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Commander_Cj on November 06, 2017, 06:44:55 pm
I think keeping vehicles the way its still in the game is enough , And it will not suit the newcomers who are poor and maybe got a bike to pay fees every week , or at least make it  life-time.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Surena on November 06, 2017, 06:51:02 pm
It will not suit the newcomers who are poor and maybe got a bike to pay fees every week

The LCPD isn`t hunting people on the plates like you would imagine 24/7, especially when you drive lawfully and don`t take our attention, so the chance of actually getting caught is small.

And if you do get caught, then you`ll pay a fine once... maybe twice? I am sure nobody would make the same mistake 3 times in a row, am I right?
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: JackDockz on November 06, 2017, 06:53:10 pm
There can be 2 modes of payment depending upon the kind of vehicles.
1. Lifetime registration. Which will cost much more and is only available for cheaper vehicles or just the cheap 2 wheelers.
2. Weeky registration. Costs less and is specially for 4 wheelers and costly vehicles.

In addition, new players can get a grace period before they start paying the fees.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Nadim Jones on November 06, 2017, 07:01:03 pm
I think keeping vehicles the way its still in the game is enough , And it will not suit the newcomers who are poor and maybe got a bike to pay fees every week , or at least make it  life-time.
150$ or 50$ is not that much :P, also we got no taxes or smth like that in game, its time to pay xD
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Surena on November 06, 2017, 07:09:02 pm
its time to pay xD

Yeah, it is indeed time to pay!
Get tha dem` wallets ready caz money gonna FL0W!
(http://gifgifs.com/animations/other-animations/money/counting-money-3.gif)
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Senate on November 06, 2017, 08:04:19 pm
There can be 2 modes of payment depending upon the kind of vehicles.
1. Lifetime registration. Which will cost much more and is only available for cheaper vehicles or just the cheap 2 wheelers.
2. Weeky registration. Costs less and is specially for 4 wheelers and costly vehicles.

In addition, new players can get a grace period before they start paying the fees.

No lifetime, the whole point is to get people more active and less lazy.

CJ anyone can afford $50 per week.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Hernandez on November 06, 2017, 09:23:19 pm
One word, supported.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: about10pandas on November 06, 2017, 11:55:39 pm
I hope that in custom plates, we can set alphabets too not only numbers so we can have a custom plate like IRL with alphabets and numbers.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Senate on November 07, 2017, 08:40:14 am
I hope that in custom plates, we can set alphabets too not only numbers so we can have a custom plate like IRL with alphabets and numbers.

Thats the idea though consider this, if you are someone who is frequently on the wrong side of the law then your custom plate will be more easily recognized by law enforcement. They will need to type your plate # to put a "BOLO" on you or to run your plate to check the registration. A random 7 digit number/letter plate will be harder to type/remember rather than some plate like "FASTGUY".
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: about10pandas on November 07, 2017, 08:42:33 am
Yes! We need that.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: DarkPower202 on November 07, 2017, 08:44:27 am
100% Supported
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Commander_Cj on November 07, 2017, 10:30:26 am
CJ anyone can afford $50 per week.

I didn't get the Idea properly actually , If thats it , I totally support increasing Roleplay.

Edit : What if the player will not go online ? He will put his vehicle in the garage so he won't pay and fees or penalties ?
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Senate on November 07, 2017, 02:12:05 pm
Edit : What if the player will not go online ? He will put his vehicle in the garage so he won't pay and fees or penalties ?

Then when he comes back he needs to check his cars, the registration lasts 7 days, after that it needs to be renewed.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Joe_George on November 07, 2017, 05:11:03 pm
im not gonna be back online soon but.. urhm looks like i gotta get my wallet ready for any situation  :D
and there will be more sus for sure  :bananav:
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: MHAQ25 on November 07, 2017, 08:02:54 pm
I Like To My Own Vehicles Have Plate 25  :D So....
SUPPORTED
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Younes on November 09, 2017, 10:06:35 pm
One word, supported.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Steven S. on November 10, 2017, 03:10:58 pm
One word, supported.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Kowalski. on November 11, 2017, 07:04:42 am
Hell yeah, this is supported 100%  :app: :bananav: :war:
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: JackDockz on November 21, 2017, 05:27:06 pm
So if impounding is to be introduced then what organisation will take care of it. Lcpd or a private organisation as in samp?
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Surena on November 21, 2017, 05:32:22 pm
So if impounding is to be introduced then what organisation will take care of it. Lcpd or a private organisation as in samp?

Mechanics could help you out by using /towvehicle and /retrievevehicle at the impound located in south of Algonquin, I guess.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: jk98 on December 12, 2017, 09:15:50 am
One word, supported.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: HemanthTG on December 25, 2017, 05:52:16 am
Oh this would be good. Custom license plate FTW!  Supported
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Semirak on August 02, 2018, 04:22:24 pm
Bump!
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: kawashty on August 02, 2018, 08:15:01 pm
I think keeping vehicles the way its still in the game is enough , And it will not suit the newcomers who are poor and maybe got a bike to pay fees every week , or at least make it  life-time.
150$ or 50$ is not that much :P, also we got no taxes or smth like that in game, its time to pay xD
I hope your wallet still ready now after the new system of taxes added xD.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Younes on August 03, 2018, 03:01:02 pm
One word, supported.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: yusufennab201 on August 03, 2018, 10:45:16 pm
UNSUPPORTED
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Kowalski. on August 04, 2018, 08:32:39 am
UNSUPPORTED
Justify the basis of your answer, you just scared to lose money on registration/impound fees?

Explain your answer, I'm sure others are curious too.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: yusufennab201 on August 06, 2018, 11:19:22 pm
UNSUPPORTED
Justify the basis of your answer, you just scared to lose money on registration/impound fees?

Explain your answer, I'm sure others are curious too.
sometimes buddy curiousity killed the cat
no need to justify because it is "weekly"
not "yearly"
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Kowalski. on August 07, 2018, 12:16:17 am
Stay real and leave philosophy to philosophers.

How do you know it won't take $50 per week and total up to a yearly sum of $2100?

There isn't a price set yet, and if you think it's good to just have inactive players with cars around, then you're wrong.

Also, impounding encourages role-playing with police.

In future, don't just choose not to justify your answer, as people need to know the reasons behind it. Without a justification for your answer, your opinion isn't really going to be considered unless you're supporting the idea.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: skillz on August 09, 2018, 04:10:42 am
I strongly support this, LCPD has been looking in the plans of having a Impound system, I like the fact that Fishmarket PD has the impounded vehicles, it would be good if those vehicles were shown in the car yard.

The Custom number plates, if $10k is for a lifetime non-expiry, I support this. The Seven day registration, that is too short for $50. I think 31 Days (at a least a month), would be easier instead of Car owners going to the DMV and renewing their registrations more frequently. It's a great initiative to give tasks for Mechanics to handle impounded vehicles.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: Kowalski. on August 09, 2018, 01:55:28 pm
Agreed, 31 days would be more realistic.
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: simone2002 on August 09, 2018, 04:26:15 pm
Good idea, supported, I think it'll improve the roleplay.  ;)
Title: Re: Plates, Registration, and Impounding of Vehicles
Post by: kawashty on April 06, 2019, 09:49:11 am
Bump!

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