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Title: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Vasile on November 26, 2017, 11:15:32 pm
/gu
You're in combat you cannot use this command? WHAT THE HACK?

Eyy ? in 2 days I lost more than 8k of notoriety because of stupid changes of the server? how the fuck I'm going to give up when I'm in combat they shooting at me? can you explain to me that how you can roleplay while you're suspect? Cops just hunting the criminals like they are in the forest, being hunter and hunting the forest pigs

Once you stop to /give up but they are still shooting at you just trying to kill obviously they see you are notorious and they want you to lose the notoriety which is we are struggling a days a nights to gain this notoriety ? just waiting somebody to explain me here so this is not a roleplaying server its just become TDM cops vs criminals!
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Morais on November 26, 2017, 11:22:10 pm
If they shoot that's because you're returning fire. From the moment you're suspected you have two options: either you run and fight to maintain alive or you surrender. This has been a problem for criminals for ages now. If you choose to escape don't come crying that the system is corrupt because newbies don't ask before they shoot.
The biggest solution is: if you comit a crime and want to surrender, do it right away.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Rumen_ on November 26, 2017, 11:24:35 pm
/gu
You're in combat you cannot use this command? WHAT THE HACK?

Eyy ? in 2 days I lost more than 8k of notoriety because of stupid changes of the server? how the fuck I'm going to give up when I'm in combat they shooting at me? can you explain to me that how you can roleplay while you're suspect? Cops just hunting the criminals like they are in the forest, being hunter and hunting the forest pigs

Once you stop to /give up but they are still shooting at you just trying to kill obviously they see you are notorious and they want you to lose the notoriety which is we are struggling a days a nights to gain this notoriety ? just waiting somebody to explain me here so this is not a roleplaying server its just become TDM cops vs criminals!
Right..
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Vasile on November 26, 2017, 11:24:39 pm
If they shoot that's because you're returning fire. From the moment you're suspected you have two options: either you run and fight to maintain alive or you surrender. This has been a problem for criminals for ages now. If you choose to escape don't come crying that the system is corrupt because newbies don't ask before they shoot.
The biggest solution is: if you comit a crime and want to surrender, do it right away.
What? Once they starting shoot at you, you're being inside of the combat zone, so you can /gu, even when you stop without gun front of them they still keep shooting at you, and killing you so there is no escape they don't want to cuff and put you to cell once they see you're notorious they are killing just to lose your notoriety and next time it will easier to find for them.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Morais on November 26, 2017, 11:27:25 pm
What? Once they starting shoot at you, you're being inside of the combat zone, so you can /gu, even when you stop without gun front of them they still keep shooting at you, and killing you so there is no escape they don't want to cuff and put you to cell once they see you're notorious they are killing just to lose your notoriety and next time it will easier to find for them.

I  can sense some stress from your behalf. You can always /hail and do it RP wise. If one officer does it, then you should file a report against him. No need for all of this drama.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: KeiraDrake on November 26, 2017, 11:35:00 pm
I would imagine this was done, because of the number of people who would insist on a shootout, and then /gu when they are just about to die, to avoid losing their weapons.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Khm on November 26, 2017, 11:43:03 pm
I would imagine this was done, because of the number of people who would insist on a shootout, and then /gu when they are just about to die, to avoid losing their weapons.
That's exactly why it was implemented.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Norrage on November 26, 2017, 11:56:30 pm
Cops just hunting the criminals like they are in the forest, being hunter and hunting the forest pigs
Isn’t that was cops do and are supposed to do?
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Vasile on November 27, 2017, 12:17:19 am
Isn’t that was cops do and are supposed to do?
Not really like hunting pigs ? Instead of killing they can try to stop
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: sausage on November 27, 2017, 12:23:50 am
If You Can't Do  The Crime  Don't do  The Time
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Norrage on November 27, 2017, 12:28:24 am
Not really like hunting pigs ? Instead of killing they can try to stop

They won’t kill anyone for stealing a bike, ofcourse no criminal in Argonath would roleplay that and most of them are equipped with guns.

Good luck ‘try to stop’ a criminal trying to kill you in a forest without killing.
If you don’t want to get hunted then don’t do crimes, just as easy as that.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Shorty. on November 27, 2017, 12:47:38 am
/gu
You're in combat you cannot use this command? WHAT THE HACK?

Eyy ? in 2 days I lost more than 8k of notoriety because of stupid changes of the server? how the fuck I'm going to give up when I'm in combat they shooting at me? can you explain to me that how you can roleplay while you're suspect? Cops just hunting the criminals like they are in the forest, being hunter and hunting the forest pigs

Once you stop to /give up but they are still shooting at you just trying to kill obviously they see you are notorious and they want you to lose the notoriety which is we are struggling a days a nights to gain this notoriety ? just waiting somebody to explain me here so this is not a roleplaying server its just become TDM cops vs criminals!
Easy /hail 2 if not, don't start the shoot out, cops can kill you once you open fire, they won't wait for you to /gu.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Volcom on November 27, 2017, 01:07:29 am
They won’t kill anyone for stealing a bike, ofcourse no criminal in Argonath would roleplay that and most of them are equipped with guns.

Yes, i was killed with a M4 for vandalism while i was unarmed, tried to /gu at the moment i realised that wasn't going to happen any kind of roleplay and didn't work, and if you even /report for DM most of the admins will say "report it on arpd forums"
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: AK47 on November 27, 2017, 01:15:58 am
most of the admins will say "report it on arpd forums"

Which is the biggest joke in Argonath history
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Volcom on November 27, 2017, 01:27:35 am
Which is the biggest joke in Argonath history

Nah probably the biggest joke in Argonath History is "Send a email to [email protected] reporting the admin"
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: djole on November 27, 2017, 02:34:54 am
If You Can't Do  The Crime  Don't do  The Time
yes
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Astaroth on November 27, 2017, 03:39:14 am
I don't know I've copbanned quite a few people myself for this but what some of the previous explanations said are entirely supported and taken into consideration also.

Once you get suspected, at that moment you have your option to give up or shoot it out. If you fire at the officer I can't blame him for killing you. But I understand there are times where some of them either fire a bullet in your tires as soon as they suspect you so you don't have the option to do it scriptwise, in this case what i suggest doing is /hail 1/2. If you still get killed, then it better be a good roleplay scenario where the whole point of capturing you was an execution otherwise  it's a long ban from cop duty, or the server, depending on how the situation evolved  and if the officer has been doing this with different people.

Overall it's really simple if you stick to the rules and your report proves to be valid, you get your notoriety back.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Claudia on November 27, 2017, 06:27:03 am
If they shoot that's because you're returning fire. From the moment you're suspected you have two options: either you run and fight to maintain alive or you surrender. This has been a problem for criminals for ages now. If you choose to escape don't come crying that the system is corrupt because newbies don't ask before they shoot.
The biggest solution is: if you comit a crime and want to surrender, do it right away.

Correct.
If you choose to shoot cops when they approach, you'll probably kill them, or they will kill you.
If you decide to give up during the shootout, find a place to hide and then /s I GIVE UP and wait untill combat ends.

What? Once they starting shoot at you, you're being inside of the combat zone, so you can /gu, even when you stop without gun front of them they still keep shooting at you, and killing you so there is no escape they don't want to cuff and put you to cell once they see you're notorious they are killing just to lose your notoriety and next time it will easier to find for them.
If you work hard for your notoriety and don't want to lose it, just don't fuck around with cops.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Volcom on November 27, 2017, 06:50:58 am
If you work hard for your notoriety and don't want to lose it, just don't fuck around with cops.

 :app: lets not forget the cops who abuse of /su to collect their payment
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Vasile on November 27, 2017, 07:58:34 am
They’re not giving you time to hail just shooting you non stop
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: youoo on November 27, 2017, 08:07:57 am
They’re not giving you time to hail just shooting you non stop
maybe because you are in the middle of shootout and you find out that you are going to die so you decided to give up.

Cops can’t read players mind
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Kacper_Gorski on November 27, 2017, 08:29:47 am
Which is the biggest joke in Argonath history
The biggest joke are ammunitions
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Macy_Ema on November 27, 2017, 09:03:32 am
/gu
You're in combat you cannot use this command? WHAT THE HACK?

Eyy ? in 2 days I lost more than 8k of notoriety because of stupid changes of the server? how the fuck I'm going to give up when I'm in combat they shooting at me? can you explain to me that how you can roleplay while you're suspect? Cops just hunting the criminals like they are in the forest, being hunter and hunting the forest pigs

Once you stop to /give up but they are still shooting at you just trying to kill obviously they see you are notorious and they want you to lose the notoriety which is we are struggling a days a nights to gain this notoriety ? just waiting somebody to explain me here so this is not a roleplaying server its just become TDM cops vs criminals!

 You forgot you can do /hail 1 or 2? You can use it also , but maybe still same problem if you are in combat, perhaps..
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Norrage on November 27, 2017, 10:07:05 am
The biggest joke are the players with their attitude and the roleplay level
Fixed that for you
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Claudia on November 27, 2017, 10:44:00 am
:app: lets not forget the cops who abuse of /su to collect their payment

Report them to IA. If they /su you for no reason, give up and ask for their supervisor. If they refuse, go to jail and report them to the IA on forums, and I promise you they will pay for it.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Volcom on November 27, 2017, 11:20:20 am
Well, FBI have no power on SAPD IA and far from i know high ranks of SAPD are corrupt and nothing happens agaisn't them so don't promise what you can't control  :gand:
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Stivi on November 27, 2017, 05:31:31 pm
If You Can't Do  The Crime  Don't do  The Time
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Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Julio. on November 27, 2017, 05:38:23 pm
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At least it's the right words, even if the order isn't correct...  :D
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Chase on November 27, 2017, 05:40:40 pm
Well, FBI have no power on SAPD IA and far from i know high ranks of SAPD are corrupt and nothing happens agaisn't them so don't promise what you can't control  :gand:

They do but the current HQ has decided to not listen to their own boss's (Gandalf) word on this.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Kacper_Gorski on November 27, 2017, 06:11:02 pm
Well, FBI have no power on SAPD IA and far from i know high ranks of SAPD are corrupt and nothing happens agaisn't them so don't promise what you can't control  :gand:
You're correct, High ranks (Lieutenant) are corrupt, and nothing does happen to them as the chief doesn't even probably know his own officers, nor will do anything to the high ranks due to high inactivity.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Morais on November 27, 2017, 07:38:49 pm
Well, FBI have no power on SAPD IA and far from i know high ranks of SAPD are corrupt and nothing happens agaisn't them so don't promise what you can't control  :gand:

Have you evidence about what you're saying? If so direct your complaints directly to the SAPD Chief. If that isn't enough I'm sure the FBI will have something to say about this situation but please, if it's a roleplay server and roleplay factions gather up roleplay evidence. If their actions go against the server rules direct the report to the administration.
Simple problems, simple solutions.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Volcom on November 28, 2017, 12:20:40 am
Have you evidence about what you're saying? If so direct your complaints directly to the SAPD Chief. If that isn't enough I'm sure the FBI will have something to say about this situation but please, if it's a roleplay server and roleplay factions gather up roleplay evidence. If their actions go against the server rules direct the report to the administration.
Simple problems, simple solutions.

If you die, it isn't a valid RP evidence
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Mircea_Niko on November 28, 2017, 02:25:41 am

   This gets more complicated than it needs to.

   Feel abused? /gu and ask for investigation
   Wanna take the fight? Do it, to the end
   Can't win? Don't start that fight

   
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Morais on November 29, 2017, 01:39:35 am
If you die, it isn't a valid RP evidence

/em dashcam recorder is saving directly to a cloud.

problem solved
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Julio. on November 29, 2017, 10:21:38 am
/em dashcam recorder is saving directly to a cloud.

problem solved

Don't forget to RP registering for the cloud service, and giving somebody else permission to access it before your demise  :lol:
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Stivi on November 29, 2017, 05:09:45 pm
/em dashcam recorder is saving directly to a cloud.

problem solved
Yes, always with that WiFi lighting fast connection! But also who's gonna sue the guys because you ded  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: TruthSvensson on November 30, 2017, 04:02:31 am
   This gets more complicated than it needs to.

   Feel abused? /gu and ask for investigation
   Wanna take the fight? Do it, to the end
   Can't win? Don't start that fight

 

Deciding to stop fighting and giving up is a thing, you know. If you can't /gu after you shoot, that's limiting your roleplay. Not everyone has to fight to the end. Maybe they got scared afterwards and decided to give up, why wouldn't someone be able to do that?
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Stivi on November 30, 2017, 12:03:41 pm
Deciding to stop fighting and giving up is a thing, you know. If you can't /gu after you shoot, that's limiting your roleplay. Not everyone has to fight to the end. Maybe they got scared afterwards and decided to give up, why wouldn't someone be able to do that?
This functionality was removed because people were /gu'ing when at 10HP and saving their weapons too. While that is wrong, as of now, you can't do that anymore, but you can still hide at some place and /hail 1. I think it's a rulebreak if people shoot you while surrendered, and /hail counts as a surrender since forever(?).
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: jovanca on November 30, 2017, 12:57:08 pm
It's not a rulebreak to shoot someone given up, but to shoot someone without a reason. Cops use 'im corrupt' as excuse to kill random people nowadays and justify dm, but if you actually have a reason in roleplay to kill one that's perfectly fine
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Julio. on November 30, 2017, 01:01:18 pm
You can RP a corrupt cop without killing people quite easily. I used to RP beating them to within an inch of their lives and dump them in Bone County etc. Up to them how they RP escaping that situation!  :D
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Afyea on November 30, 2017, 01:16:23 pm
You can always /hail and do it RP wise..

They still shoot at you..
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Julio. on November 30, 2017, 01:25:19 pm
 /hide seems more effective  :D
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Vasile on November 30, 2017, 02:12:40 pm
These people never understand just what we want bring /gu back we are just fed up with cops who really dont want to rp and kill you just because to loose your notoriety!
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Julio. on November 30, 2017, 02:31:50 pm
If you've shot at them, do you really expect them to go "hold up, I'll stop shooting when they have low health," when in that couple of seconds you're just as likely to kill them?

Goes without saying, if you're in a vulnerable situation, show a bit of common sense and give up. Likewise, if a couple of officers attend a scene where there are 10 criminals, you don't expect them to shoot everything in sight either.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Stivi on November 30, 2017, 03:36:55 pm
It's not a rulebreak to shoot someone given up, but to shoot someone without a reason. Cops use 'im corrupt' as excuse to kill random people nowadays and justify dm, but if you actually have a reason in roleplay to kill one that's perfectly fine
"
Do NOT shoot!!
Given up!!

"

Of course, a corrupt cop could kill someone, given that they are actually corrupt/working for someone, or just hate the guy and don't think jail is enough. But not randomly shooting a given up suspect.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Vasile on November 30, 2017, 03:39:17 pm
Just bring back the /gu
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Marcel on November 30, 2017, 03:48:56 pm
Just bring back the /gu
If you bothered to read the replies above, you would have known that your concept of /gu will not be returning, as well as the reasons why.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Kacper_Gorski on November 30, 2017, 05:02:46 pm
It's not a rulebreak to shoot someone given up, but to shoot someone without a reason. Cops use 'im corrupt' as excuse to kill random people nowadays and justify dm, but if you actually have a reason in roleplay to kill one that's perfectly fine
I have been temp-banned for killing a /gu'd suspect around two weeks ago.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Stivi on November 30, 2017, 06:45:46 pm
Just bring back the /gu
lmao i support u man, and  combat shotgun too!!!!!!!!1! just do it
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Macy_Ema on December 01, 2017, 01:01:55 am
:app: lets not forget the cops who abuse of /su to collect their payment

You can thank the freecop after they killed me..he came to me and then Push's me then /su murder for no reason..and then killing  unarmed..what a nice RP  :mad: admins says they'll refund me my 800noto that I lost..+7 days..nothing happens gg

Next time..I won't wait any freecop to fuck with me..I'll just show him my best ..SAWN OFF is the KEY! No more bullshit
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Joe_George on December 01, 2017, 02:21:52 am
i used to play SAMP but couldn't stand it and quitted coz there're too many ppl and most are just too chaotic and lack of RP common senses  :gand:

just walking normally on the street but u dunno when some crazy 12 kid jump into your face and shoot u to death and run away; or run over u with a car just for fun. :balance:

once i got kidnap'd but then the napper stopped, untied me, i kicked his balls and ran away, i saw a cop, i ran to him, he just watched, the napper tried to shoot me, the cop did nothing, i had to knock the napper out (i could coz i bought knee-head move from the gym :strong:). the cop sued me and shot me dead while i was unarmed and didn't have time to respond :bananav:

i just gave up and went to IVMP. more peaceful  :rofl:
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Stivi on December 01, 2017, 02:46:39 am
i used to play SAMP but couldn't stand it and quitted coz there're too many ppl and most are just too chaotic and lack of RP common senses  :gand:

just walking normally on the street but u dunno when some crazy 12 kid jump into your face and shoot u to death and run away; or run over u with a car just for fun. :balance:

once i got kidnap'd but then the napper stopped, untied me, i kicked his balls and ran away, i saw a cop, i ran to him, he just watched, the napper tried to shoot me, the cop did nothing, i had to knock the napper out (i could coz i bought knee-head move from the gym :strong:). the cop sued me and shot me dead while i was unarmed and didn't have time to respond :bananav:

i just gave up and went to IVMP. more peaceful  :rofl:
2010 called, they want their story back. Cool story though, off to IVMP you go now, bye.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: Julio. on December 01, 2017, 10:01:48 am
It is what you make it. If you go into the server with an open mind and don't play to win, it's much easier to enjoy it.

Plenty of RP happens, if you don't see it then maybe you need to ask yourself how much RPing friends in your group are actually doing  :D
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: adam_malik on December 01, 2017, 11:05:27 am
ok.
Title: Re: /GU ? Whats going here?
Post by: djole on December 01, 2017, 12:14:52 pm
Likewise, if a couple of officers attend a scene where there are 10 criminals, you don't expect them to shoot everything in sight either.
that's what happens every time tho doesn't it?
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