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Title: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on November 30, 2017, 01:57:18 pm
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As the title says, why do we have 3 churches in LV? This is waste of property and these property could be used for something else like HQ or something, like the last one used to be Collin/Sforza HQ and its very big and big parking spot too, it could be a good HQ for someone or be used for something else. Church is so useless!
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Mazen. on November 30, 2017, 02:08:35 pm
Supported.
There is one at Bayside too.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Rohit6115 on November 30, 2017, 02:22:16 pm
Supported.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Bennzy on November 30, 2017, 02:39:30 pm
Fully Supported.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on November 30, 2017, 03:32:10 pm
Even if its just a game, this would be disrespect to Christian players if they are removed. As much as most may wish the opposite, Islam isn't the only religion on Argonath, so respect everyone.

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Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on November 30, 2017, 03:35:33 pm
Even if its just a game, this would be disrespect to Christian players if they are removed. As much as most may wish the opposite, Islam isn't the only religion on Argonath, so respect everyone.

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Okey, we can keep one church for you, so you can go and pray there =) but why 3? One is enough
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Julio. on November 30, 2017, 03:37:21 pm
Presumably they come as part of the map, and are mapped as such because the buildings ingame are literally already churches.  :janek:
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Shultz on November 30, 2017, 04:15:00 pm
One of them should be turned into a masjid.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: jovanca on November 30, 2017, 04:20:20 pm
id say remove all churches except for ex sforza hq chapel
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Julio. on November 30, 2017, 04:41:24 pm
They're all churches of Sauron anyway. No need to bring real religions in. Causes friction  :dead:
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Khm on November 30, 2017, 05:23:31 pm
You guys are aware that there's no Islam or Christianity or any real life religion related to the server as they are not allowed? The only religion that is being performed is Sauronism and these churches are Sauron's
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hammer_ on November 30, 2017, 05:56:38 pm
You guys are aware that there's no Islam or Christianity or any real life religion related to the server as they are not allowed? The only religion that is being performed is Sauronism and these churches are Sauron's
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: AK47 on November 30, 2017, 06:02:57 pm


There is no need to quote something that has been said directly above you ..
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hammer_ on November 30, 2017, 06:05:33 pm
Well, I do not support Hevar's idea's and Greasy that church is not for christian, Argonath got it's own religion, got it?
That is Sauron who kick everyone every day 900 million times.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Thomas_A on November 30, 2017, 06:25:06 pm
Might aswell complain about Why so many houses in SA ?
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hammer_ on November 30, 2017, 06:29:36 pm
Most of them are bought...
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on November 30, 2017, 06:37:17 pm
Might aswell complain about Why so many houses in SA ?

Well,,all houses are not active? all these church has icon, means someone has placed it and no one using it.

Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on November 30, 2017, 06:39:02 pm
Most of them are bought...

No, those church have been set by a manager, its a red icon =)
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Chase on November 30, 2017, 06:39:14 pm
I'd be interested in renovating those churches into McDonald's restaurants.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on November 30, 2017, 06:50:53 pm
I'd be interested in renovating those churches into McDonald's restaurants.

hahaha well that could be useful, people can then RP buying fastfood =)
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Acton on November 30, 2017, 06:57:19 pm
Why there is only 1 Religion in Argonath ? xD
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on November 30, 2017, 07:27:56 pm
Why there is only 1 Religion in Argonath ? xD

haha
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Julio. on November 30, 2017, 08:13:18 pm
Why there is only 1 Religion in Argonath ? xD

Because Sauron is all-powerful  :janek:
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Subhan on December 02, 2017, 12:56:33 pm
No one actually goes in these church or do anything in it would be better if there only one and other could be properties.

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Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Aiden. on December 02, 2017, 01:06:49 pm
I was the owner of that Blackfield Chapel property, but one fine day any manager sold that property and made it church.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: JackDockz on December 02, 2017, 01:08:30 pm
Make the church into some cheap housing. I need a cheap house tho. Pm me if you got one
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Bennzy on December 02, 2017, 01:13:40 pm
It was MIB And Savastano Hq also... But now it's up to Hq to make it props or remain useless..
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on December 02, 2017, 04:22:15 pm
Yeah since Argonath is growing with more gangs and family groups means we need empty HQ for them. This could be useful HQ for them
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Bennzy on December 02, 2017, 04:24:37 pm
if they dont want to give them for free then AUCTION it
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on December 02, 2017, 04:36:52 pm
if they dont want to give them for free then AUCTION it

yeah it should be on auction =) Highest bid wins
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Julio. on December 02, 2017, 04:39:11 pm
Quite honestly, I think this idea is pointless at best. Let's worry more about the people that buy countless unowned properties to get a monopoly on the buyouts  :rolleyes:

Plenty of properties already available.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Mircea_Niko on December 02, 2017, 04:41:38 pm

   (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/es.gta/images/1/1e/Iglesia_little_mexico.jpg)

   LS bank is here now, it's still a Church. Well, I'd hate to implicate any IRL religion here, but hey, Sauron's a bitch.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Manoni on December 02, 2017, 04:57:07 pm
   (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/es.gta/images/1/1e/Iglesia_little_mexico.jpg)

   LS bank is here now, it's still a Church. Well, I'd hate to implicate any IRL religion here, but hey, Sauron's a bitch.

the old RS4 MadBoi's hotel I used to live there  :lol:
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on December 02, 2017, 05:04:29 pm
Im glad they added a bank there instead of LS church =) That bank looks so good and people using it a lot for RP

But cmon 3 church in LV is so pointless
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Julio. on December 02, 2017, 05:13:41 pm
People used the old bank for RP too. Let's not pretend the removal of a church encouraged RP.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on December 02, 2017, 05:20:49 pm
People used the old bank for RP too. Let's not pretend the removal of a church encouraged RP.  :rofl:

i liked the old bank too, but now its FBI HQ and the new bank is dope too. But these church could be used for something else. It could be dope HQ for other family groups
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Astaroth on December 02, 2017, 05:26:46 pm
Churches, banks, museums basically any state properties to be added at this point would be wonderful to see there. From the Families topics I have seen for the past 2-3 months, I can definitely say that Argonath's RP in general has improved and people are getting creative (Sforza, HR, Latin Kings, AoD, Soprano, Corleone).

I have suggested it many times and I hope they work on it some day. Not only state properties, but mapping in general, it is ALWAYS nice to see good things around the map. Even Bengts(</3) retarded fences were cool to see at GS9. - at this point the player count is slowly rising and keeping a steady number and while it is great that people get to own 20-40 properties, money are made quick and instead of letting e.g Astaroth own the whole Montgomery, it would be good to limit them up to 10 or any number HQ chooses. I feel like even though if the RP and economical status have improved, there are too much "mafias".

Well, I'd also write up a whole bunch of stuff that has been discussed with HQ but it would be leaking - good things are being planned and I hope they stick to it and make it a reality - I am sure you guys will enjoy it!

And again,

The HQ is always looking for good mappers and scripters, if any of you guys are interested in helping them out - shoot a PM to the managers and apply - they are working with every possible potential candidate to try and improve.

Oh and - if you and your friends have ideas for mapping or ideas in general for CURRENT script improvements, write up a nice long detailed .txd file and shoot it to Alfred or any admin, I'm sure they'll read through it and forward to HQ if it is a decent one.


Cheers

- Asta
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Bennzy on December 10, 2017, 08:32:21 am
4 churhces.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on December 10, 2017, 02:58:52 pm
4 churhces.

really? Where is the 4th one?
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Bennzy on December 10, 2017, 05:54:10 pm
really? Where is the 4th one?
near antonios ammu
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Bennzy on February 20, 2018, 03:42:31 pm
4 churhces.
5
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on February 20, 2018, 04:21:33 pm
5

:O 5 churches
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Calin145 on February 20, 2018, 04:28:47 pm
:O 5 churches
LV is transforming into Romania.Its full or pointless churches here,and a lot of wasted money and space what could have been invested in hospitals and schools.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Bennzy on February 20, 2018, 04:31:04 pm
LV is transforming into Romania.Its full or pointless churches here,and a lot of wasted money and space what could have been invested in hospitals and schools.
Wait and watch more Churches are coming, we can't do shit, owners should need to look into it, if they don't care why would we?
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on February 20, 2018, 06:12:00 pm
LV is transforming into Romania.Its full or pointless churches here,and a lot of wasted money and space what could have been invested in hospitals and schools.

HAHA man you should be mayor of LV
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Julio. on March 01, 2018, 05:30:39 pm
Its full or pointless churches here,and a lot of wasted money and space what could have been invested in hospitals and schools.

Sauron works in mysterious ways.  :janek:
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on March 01, 2018, 07:36:10 pm
Sauron works in mysterious ways.  :janek:

Does Sauron pay tax?
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Norrage on March 01, 2018, 08:02:22 pm
Does Sauron pay tax?

Do you pay for the world 'being alive'? :gand:
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Blommen on March 01, 2018, 08:54:15 pm
LV citizens are too religious!
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on March 01, 2018, 11:57:00 pm
Do you pay for the world 'being alive'? :gand:

Yes i paid 30k tax today and i get no benefits of been a citizen that paying monthly taxes
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: JackDockz on March 02, 2018, 10:43:21 am
Yes i paid 30k tax today and i get no benefits of been a citizen that paying monthly taxes

You get to keep the house you bought using your own money.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Hevar. on March 02, 2018, 04:38:47 pm
You get to keep the house you bought using your own money.

wtf? I bought house full price means its mine, and whats the point to buy tax every month if you get no benefits?

In Sweden when you pay tax, you get some benefits and ONCE in a Year you get your tax money back
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: JDC on March 03, 2018, 07:34:00 am
wtf? I bought house full price means its mine, and whats the point to buy tax every month if you get no benefits?

In Sweden when you pay tax, you get some benefits and ONCE in a Year you get your tax money back

In Sweden, you also eat rotten fish called Surströmming :(

Jokes aside, I actually like the Scandinavian system IRL and dislike paying tax as much as the next guy. But I understand the need for Argonath's current tax system on properties. Keeping your house is a benefit, and tax is a check that prevents your benefit from becoming excessive, which means being at the expense of active players if you are inactive*.

If you have a high tax, that's because you have an expensive property, and the presumption is that people who can afford to buy an expensive property should be able to afford to keep it. (With 30k in monthly tax, I assume your properties are expensive) In fact, the more progressive the tax system becomes, the more cost will be placed on rich players and expensive properties.

As for churches, you could say that the buildings were initially placed there for irony, since a city full of Casinos with scantily-clad women as mascots isn't exactly a paragon of virtue. Given the city's size, IMO 2 churches (one big, one small) is already okay. It's up to HQ whether to convert the "excess" churches into other buildings, or let them stay as they are. Though as Astaroth said, players are always welcome to pitch ideas, or apply as Mappers.

Regardless of your opinion on the quality of RP, I'm sure you can agree that Argonath is full of creativity, if you look at forum topics, RP backstories, and players finding new ways to get around rules :lol: at least it can be put to better use.

(* Except for some odd folk who only login when it's time to pay taxes, but I think they're more of the exception than the rule)
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: Julio. on March 03, 2018, 02:00:16 pm
Does Sauron pay tax?

Depends on his income.
Title: Re: Why 3 church in LV?
Post by: JackDockz on March 03, 2018, 02:06:12 pm
Y topic Diverge?
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