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Title: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Vitorrio on December 03, 2017, 06:25:25 pm
The European Union might want to ban two popular Turkish meals: doner kebab (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab) and shawarma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawarma), because phosphates (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphate) have been used in the processing of the meat used in them.
Quote from: Associated Press; Ian Burns (Daily Mail Online)
A change in European Union rules could see doner kebabs banned across the continent, infuriating takeaways and fast-food lovers. The European Union's legislature is moving to ban the phosphates used in the slabs of meat at the heart of the popular street snack that originated in Turkey.
Quote from: Associated Press; Ian Burns (Daily Mail Online)
EU lawmakers are citing health concerns based on studies that linked phosphates to cardiovascular disease.
Here is what some shawarma vendors have to say:
Quote from: Kirsten Grieshaber and Raf Casert (The Times of Israel)
Owners of takeout restaurants and industry groups claim the additives are needed to keep seasoned shawarma meat juicy and flavorful, both during transport and on the vertical retail rotisseries where it is cooked.
You can read more in the articles below:
EU shawarma vendors up in arms over possible ban (The Times of Israel) (https://www.timesofisrael.com/eu-street-food-vendors-up-in-arms-over-possible-shawarma-ban/)
EU plans to ban Doner kebab and Shawarma (https://report.az/en/other-countries/eu-plans-to-ban-doner-kebab-and-shawarma/) (Report News Agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Report_Information_Agency))
EU rules could see kebabs banned (Daily Mail Online) (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5136305/Is-doner-goner-EU-rules-kebabs-BANNED.html)
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Chase on December 03, 2017, 06:48:37 pm
I have a fetish for eating dogturd when I walk outside and see a dog pooing I just want to eat it and rub it all over my face the smell is beautiful love it once I was walking around and came across a tree and I could smell dogturd and I saw it next to the tree and thought to myself this is a nice peace of dogturd I just wanna eat it so I picked it up and started eating that sweet peace of dogturd and it tasted so good I have also been going into bins in the park and finding dogturd bags and licking the dogturd oh this is so great I always have dogturd in between my teeth and I love it.
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Khm on December 03, 2017, 07:52:47 pm
The weird thing here is why they haven't banned the actual cancer food which is called fast food, (McDonalds, KFC, SubWay and all that crap), they should ban them too while they are at it.
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Stivi on December 03, 2017, 07:56:29 pm
The weird thing here is why they haven't banned the actual cancer food which is called fast food, (McDonalds, KFC, SubWay and all that crap), they should ban them too while they are at it.
You forget that without doner kebaps the fast foods that are left are the ones you mention.
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Khm on December 03, 2017, 08:03:49 pm
You forget that without doner kebaps the fast foods that are left are the ones you mention.
ye, should just entirely ban all kinds of fastfood so..
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Vitorrio on December 03, 2017, 08:40:10 pm
The weird thing here is why they haven't banned the actual cancer food which is called fast food, (McDonalds, KFC, SubWay and all that crap), they should ban them too while they are at it.
The really weird thing is why would they want to ban shawarma and doner kebab if their only concern is the way the meat which is used for them is treated? Also, why haven't they made sure quality food is available to everyone, in every type of food possible years ago?
Also, it feels like, in a way, they want to ban Turkey from the European Union, but, it's just a speculation made by me and isn't a piece of verified information.
Still, people are the ones to blame for not knowing when too much is really too much, not the unhealthy food itself.
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: superh2o on December 03, 2017, 08:53:37 pm
Phosphates are unique additives that currently have no substitution, they are used in baked goods, candy, soft drinks, meat products, BBQ meat mix and i'm sure they have more uses but i don't have a knowledge of such uses

This is just a random thing imo, also only issue is the adding of  phosphates to frozen meat, that's why the meat can be stacked as it is, they will just have to change form and have a lower quality product as meat will be dry and wont be cooked as even as with phosphates, so don't worry kebabs are not going away just the way they are made will be changed.


Use of Phosphates in Meat and Poultry Processing applications:
Steaks and roasts Less purge means that meats will retain good appearance, flavor and texture.
Hams, turkey breasts and other higher extended whole meats are best treated by injection followed by tumbling.
Hot dogs and bologna meats are comminuted with phosphate powder and salt to solubilize protein that forms a strong emulsion.
Chicken breasts,pork fillets and beef medallions are tumbled for 30 min.
Chunked and formed ham and turkey products
Meatpatties, meatballs, taco
Fillings and nuggets are simply mixed with phosphate and salt.

As you can see this is not just used in a single food prep work.



Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Max_Crawford on December 03, 2017, 08:54:28 pm
wtf
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Bengt on December 03, 2017, 09:07:00 pm
oh shit
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Stivi on December 04, 2017, 12:48:16 pm
Also, it feels like, in a way, they want to ban Turkey from the European Union, but, it's just a speculation made by me and isn't a piece of verified information.
Still, people are the ones to blame for not knowing when too much is really too much, not the unhealthy food itself.
But in reality, the businesses selling these products aren't exactly Turkish. A couple of ones that I've asked in, they're from Tunisia, Pakistan, Iran, etc., and it probably is like that everywhere, not only in major cities in Europe.
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on December 04, 2017, 03:55:14 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocW3fBqPQkU
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Vitorrio on December 07, 2017, 03:22:12 pm
Also, it feels like, in a way, they want to ban Turkey from the European Union, but, it's just a speculation made by me and isn't a piece of verified information.
Still, people are the ones to blame for not knowing when too much is really too much, not the unhealthy food itself.
But in reality, the businesses selling these products aren't exactly Turkish.
Sorry for the confusion I created, it seems that you misunderstood what I said. What I actually meant is that the EU wants to ban Turkey by banning Turkish culture and cuisine from the Union.
Title: Re: The EU plans to ban shawarma - because of phosphates
Post by: Khm on December 07, 2017, 03:24:33 pm
The really weird thing is why would they want to ban shawarma and doner kebab if their only concern is the way the meat which is used for them is treated? Also, why haven't they made sure quality food is available to everyone, in every type of food possible years ago?
Also, it feels like, in a way, they want to ban Turkey from the European Union, but, it's just a speculation made by me and isn't a piece of verified information.
Still, people are the ones to blame for not knowing when too much is really too much, not the unhealthy food itself.
I purposely avoided bringing politics into this but yeah, it's actually made to hit Turkey.
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