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Title: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Huntsman on January 05, 2018, 06:51:05 pm
I know I sound like butthurt right now, but the thing is I kind of am.

Once a criminal gets on a PCJ, it's virtually impossible for the PD to catch him unless he's a shit driver. Even a police maverick can't keep up with a PCJ while in a direct chase. That's because of the possibility to bug it's speed by raping Numpad 9 (an issue that plagues all III era games) and it seems to be allowed by the server rules.

I think it would be fair if cops are either allowed to deploy seasparrow against bike suspects or the ability to bike-bug is somehow disabled.
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Klaus on January 05, 2018, 11:42:01 pm
Wow Huntsman, this is just.. embarrassing. Even Kessu would agree with me right now.

Firstly, leaning on a bike is not a "bug". What on earth gave you that idea I don't know. Forward leaning to increase speed was an intentional feature, as well as leaning backwards to lift the front wheel.

Secondly, saying it's impossible to catch a PCJ is just shameful. Police Bikes were purposely added to deal with PCJ's. Either you are just ignoring the fact the Police practically have their own PCJ's or you just didn't think about it. Either way, it's very much possible to chase PCJ's using the Police Bikes. You can of course use other tactics as well, such as intercepting the bike instead of following it.

In conclusion, the answer is no.
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Kessu on January 06, 2018, 03:33:36 am
Klaus summed it up well.

Remember you've yet to chase me and/or nylez on a pcj on a daily basis so you don't even know how annoying it is yet xd

The answer is no, PD has more than enough answers against a pcj
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Kowalski. on January 06, 2018, 06:24:09 am
Huntsman, I thought VCPD used secondary units for roadblocks, unless no Officer gives a single fuck about that anymore, in which case Nylez has a free pass  ;)

Use another vehicle as a roadblock unit, close off all routes:
E.G. there's a 4-way intersection ahead of the suspect, deploy spike strips across all the road and footpath surfaces and wait until he's cornered and spike strip the route he came from, then, HE'S DUN GOOFD.

It's not really an abuse as it's a feature that was actually added in the game with that very purpose.

Secondary units are useless nowadays anyway, especially because some Cadets and Officers get a little competitive over being a Primary Unit.

What some people don't understand is that the secondary units are actually just as important, if not MORE, than the Primary Unit.

In terms of this, no.
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Sawyer on January 06, 2018, 06:46:26 am
I'm definitely the last person to comment about this but.. officers on VC:MP are able to return after death correct? If that's so then that fact by itself gives an unfair advantage over criminals if you ask me. Not to be a dick here, Huntsman, but a Chief of police should seek for greater strategies to actually overcome criminals regardless.

The fact that I keep seeing topics to minimize criminal privileges in both VC:MP and SA:MP in general, if owning a PCJ is even considered to be one in this case, is actually irritating.

I'll now crawl back to my SA:MP cave, if you don't mind.  :lol:
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Huntsman on January 06, 2018, 12:14:17 pm
I'm definitely the last person to comment about this but.. officers on VC:MP are able to return after death correct? If that's so then that fact by itself gives an unfair advantage over criminals if you ask me. Not to be a dick here, Huntsman, but a Chief of police should seek for greater strategies to actually overcome criminals regardless.

The fact that I keep seeing topics to minimize criminal privileges in both VC:MP and SA:MP in general, if owning a PCJ is even considered to be one in this case, is actually irritating.

I'll now crawl back to my SA:MP cave, if you don't mind.  :lol:

See, unlike in SA:MP, Criminals already have significant advantages in Vice City, so this is not as much of an issue here.
Besides, keep in mind SAPD is allowed to drive-by PCJ users. Bike vs. Bike or Car vs. Bike drive-by is forbidden by the server  rules in VC:MP, so VCPD is at a disadvantage.

-Bunch on nonsense-

You are going to lecture me about a protocol that I wrote myself? There has not been a single lamp-post or a wall in Vice City that has not fell victim to your utterly pathetic driving. You know what you're talking about just as much as I know about rocket science. So please, go back to annoying people in IV:MP, thanks.

Wow Huntsman, this is just.. embarrassing. Even Kessu would agree with me right now.

Firstly, leaning on a bike is not a "bug". What on earth gave you that idea I don't know. Forward leaning to increase speed was an intentional feature, as well as leaning backwards to lift the front wheel.

Secondly, saying it's impossible to catch a PCJ is just shameful. Police Bikes were purposely added to deal with PCJ's. Either you are just ignoring the fact the Police practically have their own PCJ's or you just didn't think about it. Either way, it's very much possible to chase PCJ's using the Police Bikes. You can of course use other tactics as well, such as intercepting the bike instead of following it.

In conclusion, the answer is no.

Fair enough.
What about making an exception to the rule to allow VCPD to drive-by criminals that are on bikes?
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Klaus on January 06, 2018, 02:16:50 pm
What about making an exception to the rule to allow VCPD to drive-by criminals that are on bikes?
Nope. The way it is now is perfectly fine and fair for both sides.

Criminals already have significant advantages in Vice City
:uhm:
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Brian on January 06, 2018, 02:56:57 pm
I do have to agree with Klaus and Kessu here sadly, I've been in pursuit after a PCJ twice, once I was a heli unit and I lost the bike (generally because the guy had greater map knowledge than me) and once when I was on a police bike, I was able to keep up and update without an issue, and I am a terrible driver and terrible with locations on VC:MP.
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Maddy on January 11, 2018, 04:52:31 am
I've had no issues dealing with PCJ's, Just keep chasing him/her with an HPV, he/she is bound to fall off the bike at some point, pop the tires, arrest/kill him. Or just intercept, intcepting a PCJ is easiest of them all. They either ram and fall or try to avoid the interceptor and end up ramming a pole or smthn, so yeah, I don't think we'll be needing any additional features for da VCPD. Or at least imo.
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: XyZ on January 11, 2018, 05:44:53 am
he/she is bound to fall off the bike at some point, pop the tires, arrest/kill him. Or just intercept, intcepting a PCJ is easiest of them all. They either ram and fall or try to avoid the interceptor and end up ramming a pole or smthn.

 I try to avoid evading On pcj, because once you fall there's a chance someone cop approaching and arresting you.

wait, arrest? :troll: I mean that usual fight that takes place.
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Kessu on January 11, 2018, 05:45:25 am
Or just intercept, intcepting a PCJ is easiest of them all. They either ram and fall or try to avoid the interceptor and end up ramming a pole or smthn
You haven't seen a proper PCJ evader :pissed:
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Marcell on January 14, 2018, 04:58:19 am
t his is UnacceptaBle i come back as  mayo r and ban all pcjs from civili an use   :dead:
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Huntsman on January 14, 2018, 08:11:06 pm
t his is UnacceptaBle i come back as  mayo r and ban all pcjs from civili an use   :dead:

yes u hop in once in two months not to have property revoked tyvm  :app: :war: :war:
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: UllerSkibenaes on January 14, 2018, 10:07:11 pm
Well, being a good driver is already an advantage for the criminals, unlike the cops who do not know how to drive.
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Nomel714 on January 15, 2018, 10:11:08 am
Well, being a good driver is already an advantage for the criminals, unlike the cops who do not know how to drive.
allow the use of m14 fn-fal and m60 on evading vehicles of ulrich chief huntsman??
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Huntsman on January 15, 2018, 10:35:55 am
allow the use of m14 fn-fal and m60 on evading vehicles of ulrich chief huntsman??

None of them were ever disallowed apart from m60.

Well, being a good driver is already an advantage for the criminals, unlike the cops who do not know how to drive.
Seriously? Please. Your only advantage is your Somali lag.
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Joe_George on January 15, 2018, 10:41:48 am
talking about bikes btw...
one disadvantage chasing su on bike is we will possibly 'n' accidentally ram 'em dead since more police vehicles join the chase as long as it continues  :D
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Klaus on January 15, 2018, 11:30:21 am
Seriously? Please. Your only advantage is your Somali lag.
Triggered.

Anyway this topic doesn't really need any further discussion. Nothing is going to be changed.
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Sevrin on January 15, 2018, 07:25:02 pm
Be like me, just hover a chopper or a VCN chopper on the PCJ, wait for him to fall or intercept with heli(if you can pilot it like me). I've stopped many criminals evading on a PCJ more easily because when you're on a PCJ, you'll fall for sure no matter if its Nylez or Kessu or Klaus, or else just intercept with a HPV unit or spray some M4s on tyres and he's from PCJ.

*looks at Nylez and Klaus about PCJ driving*
*giggles*
Title: Re: Issue with criminals on PCJ's
Post by: Kessu on January 15, 2018, 09:54:40 pm
^^^^^cant even m4 my banshee, how could you m4 my strongest vehicle??  :lol:
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