Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 06:43:57 pm

Title: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 06:43:57 pm
Let's be honest, this makes no sense.

Bring back the old prices, how is this logical? Do you even count the risk of doing criminal jobs? Do you even count the people who didn't grind till now? Do you even want the server to improve? You decreased the prices? Great, now the server will be full of cops. Even more then when you guys increased gun prices. And M4/Sniper are still not decreased. Do you seriously want to fuck criminals so much?

Please discuss below, cause it doesn't make sense to me, sorry.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Bennzy on May 18, 2018, 06:46:55 pm
Wasn't you saying it's a good idea to low the prices, somwhere ig or at forums?
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Bogomil on May 18, 2018, 06:47:10 pm
I believe more civil profitable jobs are coming. No need to grind 24/7 meth anymore. Time to increase the roleplay.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Younes on May 18, 2018, 06:48:55 pm
I'm not sure what risks you're talking about.. let's be honest, there are no risks in doing criminal activities (except growing weed which I agree on). Server has gone so dead when it comes to the risks, so don't use that argument to cover it up.

Players have been cooking meth during 90% of their stay in Argonath, and does that bring interaction? No, it only makes you interact with your own journey. If the server was on a level where it was strict and doing criminal job was actually risky and could make you lose a big prize and also win a big prize.. then I'd agree with you. But with the current state of the server... there are zero risks for cooking meth, except loosing 2k and making 2000k instead.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 06:50:13 pm
Wasn't you saying it's a good idea to low the prices, somwhere ig or at forums?
Never, if you got a proof, show it. If not, say something useful.
I believe more civil profitable jobs are coming. No need to grind 24/7 meth anymore. Time to increase the roleplay.
Yeah, we've been promised civil profitable jobs a long ass time ago, we never got it. HQ is working against the criminals, and that makes no sense at all. You think the ones who grinded and didn't roleplay will roleplay now? No chance.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Matteo. on May 18, 2018, 06:50:45 pm
I believe more civil profitable jobs are coming. No need to grind 24/7 meth anymore. Time to increase the roleplay.
+1
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 06:52:23 pm
I'm not sure what risks you're talking about.. let's be honest, there are no risks in doing criminal activities (except growing weed which I agree on). Server has gone so dead when it comes to the risks, so don't use that argument to cover it up.

Players have been cooking meth during 90% of their stay in Argonath, and does that bring interaction? No, it only makes you interact with your own journey. If the server was on a level where it was strict and doing criminal job was actually risky and could make you lose a big prize and also win a big prize.. then I'd agree with you. But with the current state of the server... there are zero risks for cooking meth, except loosing 2k and making 2000k instead.
There are risks, oh and about server being dead, server is full of cops alredy, who scout fields and possible meth cooking places 24/7 so yes, there are risks.

I alredy said, the ones who didn't roleplay till now will not do it with this update. Change the players' mentality.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Younes on May 18, 2018, 06:53:47 pm
I alredy said, the ones who didn't roleplay till now will not do it with this update. Change the players' mentality.

You can only change players' mentality by have them understand they did wrong, and that can be done by killing what they were doing wrong, or punish them one by one. What else you think could change players' mentality?
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 06:58:31 pm
I alredy said, the ones who didn't roleplay till now will not do it with this update. Change the players' mentality.

You can only change players' mentality by have them understand they did wrong, and that can be done by killing what they were doing wrong, or punish them one by one. What else you think could change players' mentality?
Players mentality can be changed by punishing them one by one, yes. Exactly. Punish them for not roleplaying, not interacting, they're supposed to do it, they're in a Roleplay server. For God's sake, don't tell me the light roleplay bullshit, it's just an idiot term they use as a reason to not interact. Get rid of it. Oh and removing the non - roleplaying players will probably bring the ones who care about interacting back.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Rei on May 18, 2018, 06:59:48 pm
Why not be smart enough and open yourself a business, and perhaps you can gain some extra cash if you put effort into it.. There are plenty of possibilities as a criminal to make money instead of siting your ass in a journey in my opinion. Starting from business protection(which actually can give some profit and as well does not require you to be a robot) and to having your drug grid etc.

Edit: perhaps if the price is back as it used to be before, we had once a suggestion where SAPD should recive a notification of a smoke coming out of X place as a report from civilians in the near area, which it might balance it a little bit.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 07:02:36 pm
Why not be smart enough and open yourself a business, and perhaps you can gain some extra cash if you put effort into it.. There are plenty of possibilities as a criminal to make money instead of siting your ass in a journey in my opinion. Starting from business protection(which actually can give some profit and as well does not require you to be a robot) and to having your drug grid etc.
Thanks for the proper opinion, but server right now is in a dead stage, which prevents you from trying to get any money - wise profit by interacting or so.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Jairo. on May 18, 2018, 07:02:53 pm
Man what is wrong with people, this just shows how everyone in general fucking money farm, this is what made server die, not the fucking prices, not the fucking jobs, not the fucking players or admins, the lack of roleplay it's what made argonath come to what it is, whatever is people's excuses that server is dead, the only and main reason is the lack of interest to roleplay and instead 24/7 farm money.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Miki. on May 18, 2018, 07:04:17 pm
I believe more civil profitable jobs are coming. No need to grind 24/7 meth anymore. Time to increase the roleplay.

Again switching most profitable job from criminal meth to a civil one such as trucking won't increase roleplay by any mind. will push grinders to grind more change mentality not paychecks, all though I don't mind this update will fix economy a bit but RP it won't at all maybe even make it worse.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 07:06:08 pm
Man what is wrong with people, this just shows how everyone in general fucking money farm, this is what made server die, not the fucking prices, not the fucking jobs, not the fucking players or admins, the lack of roleplay it's what made argonath come to what it is, whatever is people's excuses that server is dead, the only and main reason is the lack of interest to roleplay and instead 24/7 farm money.
Oh come on, you're telling me about money farming? Believe me, I mostly cooked a kilo of meth per 2 weeks, and check my last few pages of posts, if you're not informed on me roleplaying. I believe you never putted that much effort on it, I mostly saw you cooking when I met you. Now. Punish people who refuse to complain, has happened to me really often. :rolleyes:
Everyone is supposed to be roleplaying.


Again switching most profitable job from criminal meth to a civil one such as trucking won't increase roleplay by any mind. will push grinders to grind more change mentality not paychecks, all though I don't mind this update will fix economy a bit but RP it won't at all maybe even make it worse.
This.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: JackDockz on May 18, 2018, 07:09:31 pm
No. New price good.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Bogomil on May 18, 2018, 07:09:56 pm
I believe more civil profitable jobs are coming. No need to grind 24/7 meth anymore. Time to increase the roleplay.

Again switching most profitable job from criminal meth to a civil one such as trucking won't increase roleplay by any mind. will push grinders to grind more change mentality not paychecks, all though I don't mind this update will fix economy a bit but RP it won't at all maybe even make it worse.

No one said trucking.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 07:09:59 pm
No. New price good.
Yeah, they're definitely good for a player who joins once a month.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Jairo. on May 18, 2018, 07:13:18 pm
You are talking about me cooking, well believe me i cooked most of the time to get money for my projects, projects where i've put alot of effort on it and ended up in nothing or even to my personal use, i'm not pointing names here, the problem, you're not the only one complaining about this, but most of the veterans support this, and you're not even one of them neither i am. What "scared" people away from RS5 was the money reset of RS4 and their actual real life.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Skecis on May 18, 2018, 07:13:52 pm
Well this is just sad topic.... I have personally earned million in one week of playing starting from 0, only doing drugs. Now tell me - what part of that is normal? And risk of making them is 0 (talking meth atm). at most you will be taken to jail and charged like 1k. Then you change spot and do that again. Still making roughly 60k per hour.

edit: old time when fbi were after ppl who makes drugs is over. So there is literally almost no risk
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Jairo. on May 18, 2018, 07:15:33 pm
I believe more civil profitable jobs are coming. No need to grind 24/7 meth anymore. Time to increase the roleplay.

Again switching most profitable job from criminal meth to a civil one such as trucking won't increase roleplay by any mind. will push grinders to grind more change mentality not paychecks, all though I don't mind this update will fix economy a bit but RP it won't at all maybe even make it worse.
You have a point there, nothing of this will change the lack of roleplay but maybe it can show people that money isn't everything in argonath
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Badandy on May 18, 2018, 07:15:39 pm
I don't think changing prices will change anything really. People who care mostly about money will always find a way to grind it. When gun prices went up, it didn't stop everyone from wanting to shoot since they grinded more money to buy the guns. As a cop, I personally hate going after weed fields and meth cooks because it really isn't that fun driving all around just looking and attempting to stop them. There are so many better things I would rather do than hunting down weed fields or meth cooks but sometimes, I feel like it's the only option.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Pete on May 18, 2018, 07:16:02 pm
Why not be smart enough and open yourself a business, and perhaps you can gain some extra cash if you put effort into it.. There are plenty of possibilities as a criminal to make money instead of siting your ass in a journey in my opinion. Starting from business protection(which actually can give some profit and as well does not require you to be a robot) and to having your drug grid etc.

Tell me why should I accept protection for my business, when there is nothing to protect it from?
Drugs and guns (prices are skyhigh) are the only way that criminals can make money (u can always rob someone for 1k ;d)
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Marcel on May 18, 2018, 07:16:21 pm
Over 1600 KGs of meth and 350 KGs of weed have been produced in 2018 so far.

I see people spend all their ingame time on keybinds doing meth and refusing to do any basic roleplay.

You don’t need the money. Economy is inflated enough as-is. Everyone complaining right now is part of the issue. Instead of being money hungry fucks, go roleplay.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 07:19:03 pm
You are talking about me cooking, well believe me i cooked most of the time to get money for my projects, projects where i've put alot of effort on it and ended up in nothing or even to my personal use, i'm not pointing names here, the problem, you're not the only one complaining about this, but most of the veterans support this, and you're not even one of them neither i am. What "scared" people away from RS5 was the money reset of RS4 and their actual real life.
Yes, money hungry projects, you never showed up with. You're the one pointing out names without a single bit of information. I've always said mentality and maturity make someone a veteran, not their time fucking around, doing nothing for the benefit of roleplaying.

Well this is just sad topic.... I have personally earned million in one week of playing starting from 0, only doing drugs.
Never did that myself, and that just makes no sense, how do you even have time to cook for a week, at least spend your time roleplaying.

There's a risk of getting killed by deathmatching freecops who got nothing to do as well, believe me.

60k per hour. And how much does a sniper case still cost? Yes, an hour to get a single sniper. Great logic.


Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 07:21:56 pm
Instead of being money hungry fucks, go roleplay.
How many fucking times do I have to say this? PUNISH the people who refuse to fucking roleplay, and don't talk about being money hungry, check my stats, and see how much I cooked, and you can see how much I roleplayed on the forum. Most of the drugs you mentioned are produced from people who don't have a single knowledge of roleplay, and refuse to try and interact.
So for the sake of this server, start working in the benefit of it, before it goes to shit more than it alredy did.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: AK47 on May 18, 2018, 07:22:31 pm
Just remove meth already what the fuck
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Jairo. on May 18, 2018, 07:22:45 pm
And you go back to the ground 0 again, then why would u waste ur 60k in guns instead of roleplaying? Do you know what's blackmarket? it's not supposed to be EASY or CHEAP in real life why would it be in a roleplay server?
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Jairo. on May 18, 2018, 07:23:32 pm
Just remove meth already what the fuck
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Kacper_Gorski on May 18, 2018, 07:24:19 pm
Instead of being money hungry fucks, go roleplay.
and you can see how much I roleplayed on the forum.

you deserve an award  :app: :app:
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 07:24:23 pm
Just remove meth already what the fuck
Just remove criminal jobs and criminals alredy what the fuck

And you go back to the ground 0 again, then why would u waste ur 60k in guns instead of roleplaying? Do you know what's blackmarket? it's not supposed to be EASY or CHEAP in real life why would it be in a roleplay server?
Oh God, it really takes a while to get your brain working. This is a fucking game, alright? Think of how things worked till now, does it even make sense?
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 07:25:18 pm
you deserve an award  :app: :app:
Do I even need to respond to you? Go posthunt somewhere else, you're no one in terms of roleplaying.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Miki. on May 18, 2018, 07:25:58 pm
I believe more civil profitable jobs are coming. No need to grind 24/7 meth anymore. Time to increase the roleplay.

Again switching most profitable job from criminal meth to a civil one such as trucking won't increase roleplay by any mind. will push grinders to grind more change mentality not paychecks, all though I don't mind this update will fix economy a bit but RP it won't at all maybe even make it worse.

Well trucking is next in line, and honestly no job currently provides RP in any way so trucking or not fixes nothing, money grinders will stay money grinders unless you attract them to roleplay and to proper roleplay other wise they'll just grind more now.
No one said trucking.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Marcel on May 18, 2018, 07:26:08 pm
Instead of being money hungry fucks, go roleplay.
How many fucking times do I have to say this? PUNISH the people who refuse to fucking roleplay, and don't talk about being money hungry, check my stats, and see how much I cooked, and you can see how much I roleplayed on the forum. Most of the drugs you mentioned are produced from people who don't have a single knowledge of roleplay, and refuse to try and interact.
So for the sake of this server, start working in the benefit of it, before it goes to shit more than it alredy did.
What’s the issue then? You say you already roleplay, that’s good. Drugs are still profitable, just not as much.

Or is there something else about the prices that bother you?
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Pete on May 18, 2018, 07:26:14 pm
You don’t need the money. Economy is inflated enough as-is. Everyone complaining right now is part of the issue. Instead of being money hungry fucks, go roleplay.
I did my fair share of farming before, got the money I wanted, haven't touched a journey in a while. And I am complaining, because lowering the prices won't make people go and roleplay they will farm sitll, because they need money.
So no, this wasn't the "solution" on making people roleplay, not by a long shot.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Bennzy on May 18, 2018, 07:28:58 pm
Instead of being money hungry fucks, go roleplay.
How many fucking times do I have to say this? PUNISH the people who refuse to fucking roleplay, and don't talk about being money hungry, check my stats, and see how much I cooked, and you can see how much I roleplayed on the forum. Most of the drugs you mentioned are produced from people who don't have a single knowledge of roleplay, and refuse to try and interact.
So for the sake of this server, start working in the benefit of it, before it goes to shit more than it alredy did.
What’s the issue then? You say you already roleplay, that’s good. Drugs are still profitable, just not as much.

Or is there something else about the prices that bother you?
Well, it'll nearly take 3-5 hours to make 1kg now... He has problem with that.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 07:29:13 pm

Do you realise, that you however much someone grinded before and is now roleplaying, it's a process, you need money again as time passes. Drugs are in no way profitable right now, they're supposed to be, they're DRUGS.

No, nothing else except of the benefit of this server. Does that bother you?
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: AK47 on May 18, 2018, 07:30:35 pm
I say, just remove meth already, seriously. The only thing it has done to the server is creating keybindgrinders that whine on the forum if they can't make their precious millions. I remember back in RS4 when we had weed and heroin and heroin was the best way and it was hard as fuck since the cops would constantly hunt you down. But it was fun and it honestly created much more roleplay even tho it only took you to go to a spot and order it but the policeraids where a hell of a ride.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 07:31:35 pm
I say, just remove meth already, seriously. The only thing it has done to the server is creating keybindgrinders that wine on the forum if the can't make their precious millions. I remember back in RS4 when we had weed and heroin and heroin was the best way and it was hard as fuck since the cops would constantly hunt you down. But it was fun and it honestly created much more roleplay even tho it only took you to go to a spot and order it but the policeraids where a hell of a ride.
That's actually a good one, I personally like heroin, provides more interaction. If you don't want meth to be increased, increase heroin. Make it fair.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Marcel on May 18, 2018, 07:34:01 pm
I say, just remove meth already, seriously. The only thing it has done to the server is creating keybindgrinders that whine on the forum if they can't make their precious millions. I remember back in RS4 when we had weed and heroin and heroin was the best way and it was hard as fuck since the cops would constantly hunt you down. But it was fun and it honestly created much more roleplay even tho it only took you to go to a spot and order it but the policeraids where a hell of a ride.
Might as well do that lol. I liked the old weed spots actually.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 18, 2018, 07:34:42 pm
Might as well do that lol. I liked the old weed spots actually.
Finally some logic. Thanks.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Bogomil on May 18, 2018, 07:34:53 pm
You just don't know what you want. Let the developers do what is right. Plus, Marcel already said that is temporary - but you'll need to earn with roleplay the higher prices ;)
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Bennzy on May 18, 2018, 07:36:32 pm
Make a script which allows people to cook 500g in 24hours, if u'll try to cook more you won't see the smoke or there would be a error "You already cooked 500g today, try again later" or something like this, xd
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Bennzy on May 18, 2018, 07:37:48 pm
Same for weeds, you can't grow more seeds then 100 in a day, same for heroin, you can't order more than 20times a day.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Marcel on May 18, 2018, 07:39:07 pm
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Pete on May 18, 2018, 07:54:09 pm
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean they can't speak about how they feel. Threatening is not the way to deal with this.
It's called freedom of speech.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Finney on May 18, 2018, 07:54:36 pm
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
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Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Kacper_Gorski on May 18, 2018, 08:00:22 pm
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
something we need :D  :gand:
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: MarceloS. on May 18, 2018, 08:06:04 pm
Well, I remember back in 2009 weed prices were 25-28 p/g and in the same time server had 140-170 player online, so prices has nothing to do here, lets try it out atleast.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Kacper_Gorski on May 18, 2018, 08:14:19 pm
drugs is a source of money, which people grind.

people just want to be rich and buy all properties, there are a few examples but i wont show because /cry

go roleplay for fuck sake and stop crying over shit prices

Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Gatis_Zalitis on May 18, 2018, 08:15:10 pm
Just remove meth already what the fuck
''Just remove drugs already what the fuck''
''Just remove jobs already what the fuck''
''Just remove money already what the fuck''
''Just remove server already what the fuck''

Also... this situation reminds me of my country- Latvia... You will get enough money to survive, but you won't have enough to do fun things
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Chase on May 18, 2018, 08:19:23 pm
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean they can't speak about how they feel. Threatening is not the way to deal with this.
It's called freedom of speech.
But we're not a democracy, and we do not have freedom of speech here as this community and every server that consists of it is privately owned...
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Miki. on May 18, 2018, 08:23:02 pm
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean they can't speak about how they feel. Threatening is not the way to deal with this.
It's called freedom of speech.
But we're not a democracy, and we do not have freedom of speech here as this community and every server that consists of it is privately owned...

My honest opinion this update is nice, will it fix roleplay? no probably even force grinders to grind more yet it's required with current economy.
Yet players should speak out their opinion yet community is privately owned but to keep it alive you need players, to get players you need to hear them out and use their opinions to create a friendly environment.  not directing towards you or any one just a general statement.
I mean after to reach the best condition you need to hear out negative opinions too together with all the different minds combining this community this can always teach and add up.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Bogomil on May 18, 2018, 08:24:43 pm
We're not equal only to Gandalf, Aragorn and Sauron. Everyone else is equal to us and we can express our opinion freely :D

Everyone nowadays has a networth of 2m+, I don't see why so many people crying. You can still buy meth for 100/g if you care that much about the prices :D
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Chase on May 18, 2018, 08:37:31 pm
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean they can't speak about how they feel. Threatening is not the way to deal with this.
It's called freedom of speech.
But we're not a democracy, and we do not have freedom of speech here as this community and every server that consists of it is privately owned...
My honest opinion this update is nice, will it fix roleplay? no probably even force grinders to grind more yet it's required with current economy.
Yet players should speak out their opinion yet community is privately owned but to keep it alive you need players, to get players you need to hear them out and use their opinions to create a friendly environment.  not directing towards you or any one just a general statement.
I mean after to reach the best condition you need to hear out negative opinions too together with all the different minds combining this community this can always teach and add up.
I'm not saying players shouldn't be able to express their opinions. While it's not a right here, it's a privilege because if you express your opinions and do it in a totally negative/provocative manner, that privilege can be revoked. I just wanted to point out that every "right" you have here is actually a privilege, not technically a right.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Kacper_Gorski on May 18, 2018, 08:38:49 pm
a gram of weed here is £10... its realistic
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Djinn on May 18, 2018, 08:39:03 pm
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You don't need money to use /me.
You don't need money to do a proper role-play.
You don't even really need a property of yourself to role-play either... use a state one, a friend one, family or group one.
You're here to role-play.
You're not here to: log in -> drives to the corner of the beach -> /producemeth and hours after just log out. Congratulations. You wasted time.
Sure, come in, make 1kg quick, go role-play, ANYTHING can be role-played.
Why do you need money so much?
Also, the server provides you ways of making money with role-play.
You can be working in the taxi industry.
You can be a doctor.
You can have a security firm and pay your bodyguards either monthly or in the end of a job.
You can even be a prostitute.
All of the above, you must role-play, and guess what? You get money.
There's much but, yeah, keep it cool on role-playing more.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Finney on May 18, 2018, 08:44:07 pm
Honestly, if you want to increase the roleplay, keep the public chat disabled. That way people will be forced to interact with others via /L and phone /call, making it more realistic. Also, enforce the IC & OOC.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Kacper_Gorski on May 18, 2018, 08:45:35 pm
Honestly, if you want to increase the roleplay, keep the public chat disabled. That way people will be forced to interact with others via /L and phone /call, making it more realistic. Also, enforce the IC & OOC.
there aint not ooc or ic in argo :P
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: JackDockz on May 18, 2018, 08:48:09 pm
Those ranting about the prices. Ok prices can be high if-

1. The risk is higher.
2. The loss is real. Like if a rv gets destroyed making meth, it should be permanently destroyed and not respawn.
3. If you die weeding or meth making, all your belongings are either destroyed or comes in possession of cops.
4. Rvs should become useless if you cook to much meth at once. It may stop grinning. May.
5. Meth equipment should break on a regular basis and faster if used continuously. This will force people out of dark corners.
6. A heavy fine on people with proven ownership of drugs should be implemented.

Consider these and get back high prices of drugs.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Matteo. on May 18, 2018, 08:48:46 pm
Oh god.. Dude just go make memories with any family / groups / friends because it is more valuable than anything else.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Badandy on May 18, 2018, 08:49:33 pm
Honestly, if you want to increase the roleplay, keep the public chat disabled. That way people will be forced to interact with others via /L and phone /call, making it more realistic. Also, enforce the IC & OOC.

I have to disagree, It's nice being able to say hello to everyone in a non-rp way. When there's like 5 players on, I like being able to chat with people while doing what I'm doing.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Finney on May 18, 2018, 08:52:13 pm
Honestly, if you want to increase the roleplay, keep the public chat disabled. That way people will be forced to interact with others via /L and phone /call, making it more realistic. Also, enforce the IC & OOC.

I have to disagree, It's nice being able to say hello to everyone in a non-rp way. When there's like 5 players on, I like being able to chat with people while doing what I'm doing.
Indeed, but just enforcing the IC & OOC rule with its explanations would also decrease the lack of roleplay.

there aint not ooc or ic in argo :P
That is why I suggested to enforce it within the gameplay.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Djinn on May 18, 2018, 09:29:02 pm
Honestly, if you want to increase the roleplay, keep the public chat disabled. That way people will be forced to interact with others via /L and phone /call, making it more realistic. Also, enforce the IC & OOC.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: JackDockz on May 19, 2018, 05:33:52 am
Those ranting about the prices. Ok prices can be high if-

1. The risk is higher.
2. The loss is real. Like if a rv gets destroyed making meth, it should be permanently destroyed and not respawn.
3. If you die weeding or meth making, all your belongings are either destroyed or comes in possession of cops.
4. Rvs should become useless if you cook to much meth at once. It may stop grinning. May.
5. Meth equipment should break on a regular basis and faster if used continuously. This will force people out of dark corners.
6. A heavy fine on people with proven ownership of drugs should be implemented.

Consider these and get back high prices of drugs.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Mr. Goobii on May 19, 2018, 11:30:05 am
Honestly, if you want to increase the roleplay, keep the public chat disabled. That way people will be forced to interact with others via /L and phone /call, making it more realistic. Also, enforce the IC & OOC.

Well said!
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Miki. on May 19, 2018, 11:40:12 am
Actually in other servers public chat exists just not as popular, the real catch in going IC OOC is getting PM out of here but these stuff won't happen these who actually want to RP can enforce this on themselves like I used to do this just because I doubt it will happen I like the idea tho
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Clark_Kenton on May 19, 2018, 11:46:51 am
Or just best.....Delete the script of drug forever and invent jobs like Train driver in which RP is needed ( as a key to load or unload cargo), Airline jobs like Pilot, baggage handler or something and yes pay them well in it and here also make a roleplay command like I said in 'Train Engineer(Driver)'. Trucking is paying bit low and it cannot be roleplayed much only if the players regret to do 'Legal cargo roleplay or Illegal cargo roleplay'. I used to do roleplay for dealing of 'Meth','weed' and 'Weapon cases' everytime with a truck and trailer (for transportation of the substances).
Inshort people want money and 'Roleplay' is necessity for 'Argonath' right now, then why not make Legal jobs pay higher and make them do roleplay in it too. Now, there is a red marker at Trucking depot. what if you guys make them stand behind the trailer and then make them type cmds like '/me inserts the key of trailer, inside the keyhole of trailer.' and then '/me opens the trailer.' or just make short cmd like '/trailer' like '/boot' (I know the trailer cannot be opened but who cares if RP'ed ?)
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Miki. on May 19, 2018, 12:10:36 pm
Or just best.....Delete the script of drug forever and invent jobs like Train driver in which RP is needed ( as a key to load or unload cargo), Airline jobs like Pilot, baggage handler or something and yes pay them well in it and here also make a roleplay command like I said in 'Train Engineer(Driver)'. Trucking is paying bit low and it cannot be roleplayed much only if the players regret to do 'Legal cargo roleplay or Illegal cargo roleplay'. I used to do roleplay for dealing of 'Meth','weed' and 'Weapon cases' everytime with a truck and trailer (for transportation of the substances).
Inshort people want money and 'Roleplay' is necessity for 'Argonath' right now, then why not make Legal jobs pay higher and make them do roleplay in it too. Now, there is a red marker at Trucking depot. what if you guys make them stand behind the trailer and then make them type cmds like '/me inserts the key of trailer, inside the keyhole of trailer.' and then '/me opens the trailer.' or just make short cmd like '/trailer' like '/boot' (I know the trailer cannot be opened but who cares if RP'ed ?)

Killing criminal's way of profit and forcing people to go legal isn't the solution, yet I'd say encourage players to go legal by sponsoring legal private owned firms for them to teach new players and take them under their wing with a nice paycheck as a "pulling" method.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 19, 2018, 01:18:23 pm
Honestly, if you want to increase the roleplay, keep the public chat disabled. That way people will be forced to interact with others via /L and phone /call, making it more realistic. Also, enforce the IC & OOC.
Supported, would make things way better.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Thomas_A on May 19, 2018, 01:30:12 pm
Honestly, if you want to increase the roleplay, keep the public chat disabled. That way people will be forced to interact with others via /L and phone /call, making it more realistic. Also, enforce the IC & OOC.
Supported, would make things way better.

You really think It hasnt been suggested before ? It hasnt been implemented for a reason.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 19, 2018, 01:31:20 pm
You really think It hasnt been suggested before ? It hasnt been implemented for a reason.
What's the reason?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Miki. on May 19, 2018, 02:06:20 pm
You really think It hasnt been suggested before ? It hasnt been implemented for a reason.
What's the reason?  :rolleyes:

Whole light RP server mentality.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Darty on May 19, 2018, 02:07:08 pm
Whole light RP server mentality.
Get rid of it, for the benefit of the server and it's players.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Miki. on May 19, 2018, 02:41:04 pm
Whole light RP server mentality.
Get rid of it, for the benefit of the server and it's players.
I'm with you on that, it's been always a light RP server but some how a few years ago together with blips and no OOC IC still RP was around and still everything was with proper standards that's not the problem, problem is with the ones above who think the condition now is fine.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Subhan on May 19, 2018, 03:21:39 pm
No need to grind 24/7 meth anymore. Time to increase the roleplay.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Bennzy on May 19, 2018, 04:48:35 pm
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
Atleast tell us, how can we earn from drugs? I weed price is 40$, max you can get is 2grams = 80$, 1 seed price is 100$, does this makes sense?
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Pete on May 19, 2018, 04:57:52 pm
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
Atleast tell us, how can we earn from drugs? I weed price is 40$, max you can get is 2grams = 80$, 1 seed price is 100$, does this makes sense?
You profit, 3$ from each weed, simple!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Bennzy on May 19, 2018, 05:08:48 pm
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
Atleast tell us, how can we earn from drugs? I weed price is 40$, max you can get is 2grams = 80$, 1 seed price is 100$, does this makes sense?
You profit, 3$ from each weed, simple!  :rofl:
I don't, i'll never.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Jairo. on May 19, 2018, 05:24:55 pm
i guess people are hoping now to see what's coming in the new patch, in my opinion hopefully it's good, either it changes argonath completely or it gets worse
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Miki. on May 19, 2018, 05:26:29 pm
i guess people are hoping now to see what's coming in the new patch, in my opinion hopefully it's good, either it changes argonath completely or it gets worse

It's nice an all, I mean scripters are doing an outstanding work and improve the server. but RP wise it won't change a think might fix some other fields of the gameplay though.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Finney on May 19, 2018, 07:49:13 pm
Whole light RP server mentality.
Get rid of it, for the benefit of the server and it's players.
It's barely even possible to get rid of something that has been implemented since 2006. Things will be always the way they are now, changes can be minor, not the major as many of you want, including myself. Changing the drug prices will not affect the ammount of roleplay at any point. It will either make people leave or just prolong the cooking/growing process. You need to educate people a lot, especially the ones who can't understand & write english so well.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: JackDockz on May 21, 2018, 03:54:03 am
There are too many scripts imo. Make samp simple as ivmp lol.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on May 21, 2018, 10:32:07 am
Stop fucking complaining like little kids or i’ll remove the entire drug script, forever.
Atleast tell us, how can we earn from drugs? I weed price is 40$, max you can get is 2grams = 80$, 1 seed price is 100$, does this makes sense?

Earn through RP interactions. Drugs imo should be used to get some money on the side - not your entire profit. Start RPing with others, see if some company or businessman is hiring, interact with them - that's how money was made back in the day.

And out of all people, its funny you are looking for profit. I'm sure you have more than enough money.
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: Macy_Ema on June 03, 2018, 12:01:48 pm
Since I was died last months I saw that topic, when I joined I've seen how Drug Prices haha, so that's a start
and by the way, server has yesterday when I joined maximum of 18 player, so that's good, good start better then 3 or 2 haha, and next days we hope to see more..  :cowboy:
Title: Re: Drug prices
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on June 03, 2018, 02:45:35 pm
 To put the nail in the coffin and just wrap up the topic - you don't need a money script or market prices to profit as a criminal. All you have to do is roleplay. There's people paying for drugs way more than they can profit, making them lose money. You'll just need to look around.

 Back in the day I used to make around 50k per day just selling diamonds or cocaine. Both of which were not and are not scripted to this day.

 Use your imagination and be creative - that's how you get your profit. Plus, I wonder how most of you know about the drug market prices, given that you aren't part of a recognized or official group. Perhaps someone's breaching the script and letting people outside of their groups to sell to market?  :rolleyes:
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