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GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP General => Topic started by: Kowalski. on September 28, 2018, 12:05:28 pm

Title: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Kowalski. on September 28, 2018, 12:05:28 pm
I didn't know where else to post, so...

I feel currency should be transferrable between servers. My reasoning for this is that VCMP's Vice City, SAMP's San Andreas, and IVMP's Liberty City are all cities of the United States of Argonath. In most, if not all countries, cities don't have separate currencies and I feel like money should be transferable, and truthfully, that is fair enough, it's realistic, but if I'm missing a reason why this shouldn't be implemented, please do post here.

Thanks for your time, just wanted to know, I feel like this is a realistic option, but VCMP, SAMP and IVMP Leadership would all have to agree for this to be implemented.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Kessu on September 28, 2018, 02:56:08 pm
Not gonna happen.

The server's databases are different, the server's economic balance is different and so is the worth of a single ARD.

You want money in one of the servers, earn it there.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Cyclone on September 28, 2018, 03:09:44 pm
Not gonna happen.

The server's databases are different, the server's economic balance is different and so is the worth of a single ARD.

You want money in one of the servers, earn it there.

Right.
It's so easy to earn 1m in 2-3 days in SA:MP, you would earn it and then buy yourself a Super GT in IV:MP or get a nice villa with doing absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Kowalski. on September 28, 2018, 03:12:40 pm
Not gonna happen.

The server's databases are different, the server's economic balance is different and so is the worth of a single ARD.

You want money in one of the servers, earn it there.

That's a valid point, thanks for bringing it up!
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Marcell on September 28, 2018, 03:30:29 pm
samp argo is widely known for implementing half assed features that break the economy, however I believe IVMP is somewhere on par with VCMP balance where money scripts are actually tested, personally I think with a ratio adjustment IV to VC could work.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Kowalski. on September 28, 2018, 04:04:27 pm
I agree with you, Marcell. I feel like SAMP's economy as it is right now, would stuff things up here and in IVMP, but VC-IV would be a good idea, if it were fine-tuned a bit.

Plus, transferring money can be done with a simple screenshot and send it to VCMP Leadership, they can add the cash in, and IV Leadership can remove the money from your IV account, no need for a database necessarily.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Antonio. on September 28, 2018, 04:09:01 pm
It should be allowed imo.

Because even if some server's economy is "broke" that's why players put their own rates they find suitable. For example 1m VC ARD for 4m SA ARD.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Kessu on September 28, 2018, 05:26:53 pm
It is allowed, the administration will not prevent exchanging SA:MP money for VC:MP money on VC:MP side atleast (as long as both monies are located within the Argonath RPG servers).

However, script-wise, this feature will never be supported due to the hassle it would create by having the need to calculate proper exchange rates and then monitor said rates based on each server's scripts and what not.

It's just simply put not feasible and quite frankly, too much to ask from server's management.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Kowalski. on September 29, 2018, 10:33:07 am
To be honest, the idea wasn't really a script idea, but an idea in general, to allow money to be transferred, regardless of whether it's manually added/removed, or if there's a scripted way.

Thank you Kessu  ;)
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on September 29, 2018, 12:02:58 pm
but an idea in general, to allow money to be transferred, regardless of whether it's manually added/removed

It is allowed, the administration will not prevent exchanging SA:MP money for VC:MP money on VC:MP side atleast (as long as both monies are located within the Argonath RPG servers).

I've never found a problem in exchanging currencies between clients. I've done it myself, Administration of both Clients' admin teams were notified and have approved it. The only thing that might be changed in the whole process was to set a certain fixation to the rates of exchange. Know that a Liberty Dollar goes for three San Andreas ones, while it goes for one and a half Vice City...Or something among these lines, perhaps this way we can establish a servers-wide stock market, which will influence these? But yet again, this is over-complicating things. It's fine as it is, perhaps we just need to set the rates.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Cyclone on September 29, 2018, 06:32:46 pm
Oh?

So

1 Liberty Dollar = 3 San Andreas Dollar
1 San Andreas Dollar = 1,5 Vice City Dollar
1 Liberty Dollar = 4,5 Vice City Dollar

Can a sir please make Argonath Currency thingy so we can follow it?
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Cyclone on September 29, 2018, 06:35:25 pm
Oh?

So

1 Liberty Dollar = 3 San Andreas Dollar
1 San Andreas Dollar = 1,5 Vice City Dollar
1 Liberty Dollar = 4,5 Vice City Dollar

Can a sir please make Argonath Currency thingy so we can follow it?

And I want to transfer my San Andreas money to Liberty City, any admins that could help me? I need to sell my Bullet first...

Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Cofiliano on September 29, 2018, 07:09:45 pm
Contact Gvardia Investment Bank, they exchange SAMP:VCMP money.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: TedHamilton on September 29, 2018, 08:14:18 pm
Could be done by means of direct contact between players, but don't expect any scripts for that.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Cyclone on September 29, 2018, 08:16:23 pm
Contact Gvardia Investment Bank, they exchange SAMP:VCMP money.

How about SA:MP - IV:MP?

I have tons of money I would kill to have in IV:MP.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Kessu on September 29, 2018, 08:34:46 pm
Could be done by means of direct contact between players, but don't expect any scripts for that.
For VC:MP, this is the only way it's going to get done.

We won't be reverting deals you've made or have been scammed in when exchanging currencies from one server to another.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Antonio. on September 29, 2018, 08:49:05 pm
Contact Gvardia Investment Bank, they exchange SAMP:VCMP money.

How about SA:MP - IV:MP?

I have tons of money I would kill to have in IV:MP.
I'll have to contact Alessandro Gvardia for that, since he was running GIB for that. :D
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: PANZER24 on September 29, 2018, 09:40:27 pm
 :pissed:
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1 Liberty Dollar = 3 San Andreas Dollar
1 San Andreas Dollar = 1,5 Vice City Dollar
1 Liberty Dollar = 4,5 Vice City Dollar
as far as I know it is harder to earn money in vcmp than samp.
I support this idea btw.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Stivi on September 30, 2018, 12:16:51 am
If you are to make this, then just let people make their own deals. After a while, the market is gonna balance itself based on what people dealt with. Let competition set the exchange rates, not rules.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Kessu on September 30, 2018, 07:53:14 am
Going to post a summary of all my posts in this topic currently to give you a full broad view to how we see this as VC:MP management;

1) Players are allowed to exchange argo dollars from one server to VC:MP and vice versa atleast on VC:MP side. You should confirm with the respective server leaders first if they're OK with exchange of currency from another argo server.

Note that trading any ingame currency for real life items/currency or services is still a community rulebreak and is not allowed anywhere. Only trade ingame items for ingame items.

2) Management will not give a shit if you get scammed in this sort of trade. We also will not give a shit if you regret the deal you made 10 seconds after making it and want it reverted. It won't happen, don't even ask.

3) This will never be supported by scripts. We won't take on the job of watching exchange rates since we simply put do not know what the other server is all about, how easy it is to make money there and we cannot see their development process nor they ours in order to know when said rates would change.
It is not feasible for any servers management to create a system to allow this without the need of excessive monitoring and insanely complicated math calculations.



I hope this shows you how we feel about the subject and removes the need for further unnecessary posts within the topic.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Cyclone on September 30, 2018, 12:47:21 pm
But Kessu sir,

Is there a way to exchange my SA:MP money with IV:MP?
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Kessu on September 30, 2018, 03:03:29 pm
But Kessu sir,

Is there a way to exchange my SA:MP money with IV:MP?
Player to player exchange given that both SA:MP and IV:MP management is OK with it (which I cannot say they are or are not).
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Kolta on September 30, 2018, 03:28:44 pm
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1 Liberty Dollar = 3 San Andreas Dollar
1 San Andreas Dollar = 1,5 Vice City Dollar
1 Liberty Dollar = 4,5 Vice City Dollar
Earning money in SAMP is way more easier than IVMP. You can get 1 million in a few days in SAMP, in IVMP it needs weeks to get 1 million. In my opinion 1 Liberty dollar should be lower than 3 SAMP dollars.
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: JackDockz on September 30, 2018, 09:24:42 pm
I suport it thanks
Title: Re: Inter-server currencies
Post by: Huntsman on October 05, 2018, 09:14:56 pm
People have exchanged server money in the past. Just go to the sales section of that server, and announce youre selling that much VC dollars for that much SAMP dollars. Nobody was ever stopping people from doing so.
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