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GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP Unban Requests => Topic started by: Jones3106 on November 21, 2018, 07:47:13 am

Title: [Unbanned]Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on November 21, 2018, 07:47:13 am: Full ingame name: JasonS
Approximate date of getting banned: 21 Nov 2018
Reason of getting banned: Ties with a blacklisted community
Further information: Rardodus_Bruise made a server and he made me the Manager. I was part of it for almost 2 months then I ended all ties with them and also left their discord server. I'm not part of the Administration, I'm not even the member of that server/community. I have attached some screenshots, please have a look at them.

(https://i.imgur.com/OYLwHNx.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xZv2tbD.png)
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Klaus on November 21, 2018, 09:13:28 pm: Why did you not report the clear instances of plagiarism and instead support the copying of Argonath's resources?
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on November 22, 2018, 04:16:52 pm: I did not know that they have copied your script/resources. However I had visited their forum 2-3 times and observed that the theme was quite similar to that of Argonath but I never supported it.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Klaus on November 23, 2018, 12:14:53 am: As this community is blacklisted from hereon, you must cease any and all activity with said community before you can be given a chance of an unban.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on November 23, 2018, 09:31:03 am: I understand how important is that. As mentioned before, I have ceased all activities, not even the member of it anymore.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Klaus on November 23, 2018, 05:00:49 pm: You agree that if we find any evidence of you still involved with this community in any shape or form, you will perm-banned without chance of an unban?
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on November 23, 2018, 06:10:08 pm: Yes I agree
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Kessu on November 26, 2018, 01:24:12 pm: Quote from: Klaus on November 24, 2018, 01:39:14 pm
Quote from: Sk on November 22, 2018, 04:16:52 pm
I did not know that they have copied your script/resources.
Quote from: Tomasiro on November 24, 2018, 10:29:24 am
And since Sk was the scripter, he stolen the resources from this server and I was against it.
So, who's telling lies, you or sk?
Same question for you, you or tomasiro?
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on November 26, 2018, 01:54:23 pm: Quote from: Kessu on November 26, 2018, 01:24:12 pm
Quote from: Klaus on November 24, 2018, 01:39:14 pm
Quote from: Sk on November 22, 2018, 04:16:52 pm
I did not know that they have copied your script/resources.
Quote from: Tomasiro on November 24, 2018, 10:29:24 am
And since Sk was the scripter, he stolen the resources from this server and I was against it.
So, who's telling lies, you or sk?
Same question for you, you or tomasiro?

First of all, I didn't steal anything. Secondly, I never saw Tomasiro saying what he has mentioned. I'm not lying. I agree that I was the scripter but I wasn't the only one. I just added a few commands like goto, gotoloc, heal, wep. None of the commands I added were stolen from Argonath RPG or any other server. You can have a look at the resource of my script, here is it (http://wiki.vc-mp.org/wiki/Scripting/Squirrel/Functions) (https://forum.vc-mp.org/index.php?board=10.0)
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Klaus on November 27, 2018, 02:40:35 pm: So tell me who is responsible for stealing Argonath's resources.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on November 27, 2018, 03:22:10 pm: Quote from: Klaus on November 27, 2018, 02:40:35 pm
So tell me who is responsible for stealing Argonath's resources.

I'm not sure but I think its mainly Kowalski and Rardodus's fault since Kowalski and Spiller were taking care of the Forum etc and Rardodus + his scripter whose name i dont know were taking care of the script.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on December 12, 2018, 09:40:06 am: If you want to know or ask anything I'm here.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Klaus on December 15, 2018, 11:20:20 pm: Quote from: Sk on December 12, 2018, 09:40:06 am
If you want to know or ask anything I'm here.
Why do we need to ask? Why don't you take some initiative and tell us more about what you know?
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on December 16, 2018, 09:29:48 am: Quote from: Klaus on December 15, 2018, 11:20:20 pm
Quote from: Sk on December 12, 2018, 09:40:06 am
If you want to know or ask anything I'm here.
Why do we need to ask? Why don't you take some initiative and tell us more about what you know?

All I know is that Rardodus told his new scripter to make RPG script similar to Argonath's and Kowalski, Spiller and some other guys whose name i dont know were making their forum and a VCPD similar to Argonath VCPD, that is all the information I know because after that I had left their discord server. I agree that I should have informed about the Copy-Paste, sorry for that.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on December 30, 2018, 08:02:07 am: Many days have passed and there is no question or reply or any activity.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Klaus on December 30, 2018, 04:52:23 pm: Quote from: Sk on December 30, 2018, 08:02:07 am
Many days have passed and there is no question or reply or any activity.
Because we're not convinced, clearly.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on January 10, 2019, 12:35:28 pm: Quote from: Klaus on December 30, 2018, 04:52:23 pm
Quote from: Sk on December 30, 2018, 08:02:07 am
Many days have passed and there is no question or reply or any activity.
Because we're not convinced, clearly.

So what do you need to be "convinced clearly"?
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Kessu on January 10, 2019, 01:33:08 pm: Your story is all "they did it, I did nothing" and that smells like horseshit.

How is it that not a single person in the community did nothing for Nottingham yet they held positions as high as Division Leader? I'm not buying that for one second.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on January 10, 2019, 02:28:03 pm: Quote from: Kessu on January 10, 2019, 01:33:08 pm
Your story is all "they did it, I did nothing" and that smells like horseshit.

How is it that not a single person in the community did nothing for Nottingham yet they held positions as high as Division Leader? I'm not buying that for one second.

I was a Manager there and "what I did for them" was giving them a "Deathmatch Script with some admin cmds". What i'm saying is that I did not help them in stealing things from Argonath or any other server. All I did was made them a DM script with Administrative commands, thats all.

Here are some Screenshots of me sending the scripts to Rardodus over discord:
(https://i.imgur.com/Jw5Wkud.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/hAYi4Nu.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/tyynBCD.png)
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on January 16, 2019, 09:16:27 pm: Do you need anything else? evidence etc.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Klaus on January 16, 2019, 09:39:39 pm: Quote from: Sk on January 16, 2019, 09:16:27 pm
Do you need anything else? evidence etc.
I want you to tell me more about your history and your connection with the blacklisted community.

Why did you get involved? Why did you help a community that was built on stealing from another community?

Looking back, how do you feel about what you did? Do you think what you did is morally 'right'?
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on January 16, 2019, 10:05:36 pm: Quote from: Klaus on January 16, 2019, 09:39:39 pm
I want you to tell me more about your history and your connection with the blacklisted community.

Why did you get involved? Why did you help a community that was built on stealing from another community?

Looking back, how do you feel about what you did? Do you think what you did is morally 'right'?

When their server was first opened, I joined it and then Rardodus and Sezar_Adonis asked me if I could make them a Deathmatch script and add administrative commands like /freeze /unfreeze /ban /unban /kick. So I gave them the script with those cmds because at that time I had no idea that they would turn into a "RP" server. I involved with that community because I thought that there is no problem in giving some deathmatch commands, so I helped them with the DM thing. After some days, Rardodus asked me to give them a cop system, at that time I did not think and just gave them a broken cop system that I found on forum.vc-mp.org. After some more days passed, they started to ask me to make Roleplay commands like /l and /l, but I did not make them any kind of Role Play commands and I told them that I would stop scripting and then I left everything including their discord server.

Looking back, I feel that what I did was not good and I shouldn't have helped them in anything. I do not think what I did was morally 'right'. If you need anything else, im here :)
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Klaus on January 17, 2019, 09:17:21 am: Elaborate further on why you think what you did is not morally right. Explain why you think your actions were principally wrong.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Jones3106 on January 19, 2019, 12:25:59 pm: Quote from: Klaus on January 17, 2019, 09:17:21 am
Elaborate further on why you think what you did is not morally right. Explain why you think your actions were principally wrong.

When they asked me that can you make a RP script and I said NO, I should have informed you that they want to turn it into a RP server. I was in their discord server as manager when someone introduced the idea of RPG server just like Argonath RPG. I believe I should have stopped them and I should have informed you about this.
Title: Re: Unban Request
Post by: Klaus on January 20, 2019, 11:28:42 pm: I believe you made a mistake, but mostly out of pure ignorance than anything else.

You should be more careful about who you get involved with. Nonetheless you have learnt from this experience I feel and will give you another chance.

Remember though that if I find you still have any kind of ties with this blacklisted community you will be instantly banned.

Unbanned