Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Fatboy_Rob on February 05, 2008, 08:19:01 pm

Title: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 05, 2008, 08:19:01 pm
Well, i had this idea long ago, because to me, sometimes jail isnt enough.


The idea is to have prison roleplay, to create a community on the inside.
The compound is located in the desert, not even a stones throw away from Area 69.
The prison is based off an American Triple Max Security prison, meaning the security is tight.


.:: Prison ::.

The compound consists of 3 main structures

Its made up of 241 objects, it consists of 'layers', which ill explain

Inner Layer - Otherwise known as the prison 'yard'. It is the recreational area for the prisoners, where they can smoke, exersise, etc.
Middle Layer - The area encircling the 'yard', and has guard towers overlooking the yard.
Outer Layer - Known as 'The Wall' - it is a 30 foot high, 3 feet wide, Concrete Wall encircling the two inner layers and connected to the main buildings.

The front of the compound has an area for guards on break, or civillians visiting the prison to relax and smoke, or file paper work.
That is located east from the front of the building.
It has seating and granite tiling, and a sensual modern design format, it has some very nice plant life too.

The government has supplied us with some exercise equipment for the prison yard, so prisoners can excersise on their recreational time.
The list of things we got, and installed for the compound are

The entire design plan for this Prison was inspired by an American Triple Max Security prison
I guarantee everything is and will run 100% with the building for the next 50 years, and even then it should be running good.


Escape proof?
Well, some of the government officals questioned the design of the compound, and got the answer they wanted.
We have ran the construct of the compound 100's of times, we have checked the plumbing infastructure 100's of times and found no flaws in it.
I Guarantee that its impossible to escape.


The prison is not another jail, you will not have a prison sentece, just because you have a 6 star wanted level, you will not have a prison sentence, just because you killed 15 officers.
Prison is not for pety criminals.
Prison is for Mass murderers, Kidnappers, crooked cops, Serial Killers, Pedophiles, Crime lords, Drug lords, drug smugglers and drug runners.

The only way you will have a prison sentence, is by the court system.
And if you are found guilty of your crime, you do the time.


The main 'mission' of prison, is to do your time, and stay alive.
not make money, not to have fun, you are being punished for your crime.
Prison is prison, not a circus - do not expect it to be fun.


Some people say there will not be any RP, they are wrong
You can have your friends visit you and give you shanks & shivs (if /giveweapon gets secripted)
You can have friends smuggle drugs to you, and you can sell them on the inside.
You can pay off a crooked cop to let you get food, and possibly flee if the cop needs money enough....
You can run a prison gang, and control the prison..
The RP is endless if you have an imaginaton.


Here is a small video of the compound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7f3_p2vGO0




Prison Progression bar: 80%
Things that need to be done: Interior Cells
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: The_Wolf on February 05, 2008, 08:20:37 pm
Im glad to hear that its going along good :)
            -TheLegend
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Carhartt on February 05, 2008, 08:32:55 pm
Looks good.
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Knoothead on February 05, 2008, 08:47:40 pm
o.O nice prison i just miss some things like those spotlights ( like them in 69 ) and the enviroment looks more like a streetbasket ball area but i know how hard it is to create things in the mapeditor :O
9/10

Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Jserg on February 05, 2008, 08:48:05 pm
it looks very cool
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: PMP on February 05, 2008, 08:51:29 pm
Boxing ring plz... :poke:
Or a fighting pit, just make some area were we can fight like gentelmens... :devroll:
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 05, 2008, 09:12:07 pm
Boxing ring plz... :poke:
Or a fighting pit, just make some area were we can fight like gentelmens... :devroll:
Who has a boxing ring.... in a prison?
You can fight each other anywhere...
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: PMP on February 05, 2008, 09:15:28 pm
Who has a boxing ring.... in a prison?
You can fight each other anywhere...
Try beating someone up when he doesn't stop running around.
And obviously, you never been to a prison, there are lots of prison that have boxing ring.
It's very good for inmates if they can release their anger in a competitive way.
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Carbon on February 05, 2008, 09:25:12 pm
yea, looks very good  :cool:
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: CBFasi on February 05, 2008, 09:29:01 pm
Could be very interesting having a Maximum Security Prision right next to an Military base... especially if the IA is on exercise, often in that area..
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: fart on February 05, 2008, 09:47:02 pm
And obviously, you never been to a prison, there are lots of prison that have boxing ring.

have you? LOL

good job hayden
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Jserg on February 05, 2008, 09:49:31 pm
Who the Fart are u fart?!?! :P


BTW from movies i have seen like boxing rings
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Rusty on February 05, 2008, 09:49:59 pm
Looks sweet can't wait to be inside and plan my Escape :P, i studied the Video and looked out for any possible Ledges to jump up to and found a few (After you go through the Gate where you typed */opengate*) but it's impossible form there on out, am gathering that only Guards can open that Gate?  The Gym type area looks good could use more Objects in it for Recreational Use.  I'd like a Ring like PMP said or even a Sand area for Fighting most old Prisons had some Kind of Fighting going on.
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Brains on February 05, 2008, 09:58:34 pm
I like this one. Nice  :)
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Alsatian on February 05, 2008, 10:02:23 pm
Looks Nice Rob  ;)
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 05, 2008, 10:14:37 pm
Who the Fart are u fart?!?! :P


BTW from movies i have seen like boxing rings
Exactly.
Movies.

Just like in america, your not allowed to smoke in prisons.

Looks sweet can't wait to be inside and plan my Escape :P, i studied the Video and looked out for any possible Ledges to jump up to and found a few (After you go through the Gate where you typed */opengate*) but it's impossible form there on out, am gathering that only Guards can open that Gate?  The Gym type area looks good could use more Objects in it for Recreational Use.  I'd like a Ring like PMP said or even a Sand area for Fighting most old Prisons had some Kind of Fighting going on.
I know what your talking about, but there are gates blocking any kind of climbing over there.
No boxing ring, because people like to kill other people, and dont know when to stop fighting.
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: PMP on February 05, 2008, 10:19:11 pm
People want a boxing ring, just put a boxing ring there...plzzzzzzzz.

And show us the inside of it.
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 05, 2008, 10:33:18 pm
The inside is being postponed until i can get an ingame object editor

lemme see if it works
Title: Re: Welcome to Prison - [Fatboy Revised]
Post by: PMP on February 05, 2008, 10:47:13 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2823712
Prison boxing champion!
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 04:20:11 am
Ok, i got an object editor, i got some cells finished, but im gonna need Haldirs opinion, thats no problem.

Also, edited the name, cause of a ripper


PMP - 4th time NO BOXING RING - THIS IS NOT TAIWAN, KILLING PEOPLE WILL NOT GET YOU OUT OF PRISON ANY FASTER >:(
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 03:00:38 pm
Ok, i got an object editor, i got some cells finished, but im gonna need Haldirs opinion, thats no problem.

Also, edited the name, cause of a ripper


PMP - 4th time NO BOXING RING - THIS IS NOT TAIWAN, KILLING PEOPLE WILL NOT GET YOU OUT OF PRISON ANY FASTER >:(
Could you indicate me a tuturial on how to edit objects?


How about a Death pit? :redface:
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 07:17:31 pm
"I hope you get banned you american redneck." - figure out how to edit object's yourself.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 07:20:05 pm
"I hope you get banned you american redneck." - figure out how to edit object's yourself.
A nice Europe citizen already pointed me how to...but thx anyway.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 07:28:04 pm
Then why did you ask? :lol:

:ps: nice try 'flaming' me by saying "A nice Europe citizen" - just cause im american, id love to tell the shit about your country, but no need, everyone sees it already.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 07:32:46 pm
Then why did you ask? :lol:

:ps: nice try 'flaming' me by saying "A nice Europe citizen" - just cause im american, id love to tell the shit about your country, but no need, everyone sees it already.
Well if it wasn't for my country, Iraq war would have cost you guys double the money.

But my country appreciates the millions you send us for Lajes renting.

USA was still wearing dippers already we had 3 dynasties of kings.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 07:38:19 pm
Well if it wasn't for my country, Iraq war would have cost you guys double the money.

But my country appreciates the millions you send us for Lajes renting.

USA was still wearing dippers already we had 3 dynasties of kings.
And apparently those millions dont go to education, prefrably to English & Grammar.

About Lajes, cant say anything, cause thats how the world is, ask friend for a favor, pay a guy to use his lawnmower.

Kings & Queens? haha.

:ps: What the fuck is a Dipper?
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: JJ on February 06, 2008, 07:39:34 pm
what you used to do this?
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 07:42:33 pm
And apparently those millions dont go to education, prefrably to English & Grammar.

About Lajes, cant say anything, cause thats how the world is, ask friend for a favor, pay a guy to use his lawnmower.

Kings & Queens? haha.

:ps: What the fuck is a Dipper?
Diaper, happy?

"Vai-te foder filho da puta" Now use the founds Bush cut from Portuguese education in US and translate that...
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 08:21:30 pm
Good, now that you see.

"Hijo ignorante de una perra" - it represents you.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 08:26:16 pm
Good, now that you see.

"Hijo ignorante de una perra" - it represents you.
"Yo comprendo español su hijo de puta."
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Knoothead on February 06, 2008, 08:26:40 pm
Hayden, if it isn't already a sprunk machine please put one.. Prisoners need health to and food :)
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 08:28:03 pm
Awsome, now you fully understand what your showing me, Puta.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 08:28:53 pm
Awsome, now you fully understand what your showing me, Puta.
Don't confuse me with your mother plz...
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 08:29:51 pm
Hayden, if it isn't already a sprunk machine please put one.. Prisoners need health to and food :)
Well, there is a way to make one, like the ones in singleplayer.

You set the object, set the animation when you press F key, then set the players HP + 10 and take $1 away.

It sounds simple, but its really not
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Knoothead on February 06, 2008, 08:32:06 pm
It is simple? isnt it just to place one? In MTA Mapeditor you just place them :O
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 08:34:12 pm
I wish it was that simple :( :bow:

the soda machines, are just objects, Just like guns, just like cars, etc etc.
the coding is what makes the soda machines 'work'

Id think we would make maybe a Medic station for that, instead of soda though, not sure
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 08:36:39 pm
Why not making a scheduled feeding time?
When it is time, everyone gets health for free(cause food is payed by government).
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Rusty on February 06, 2008, 09:25:02 pm
Agree with PMP on free Food to Regen your HP, what about a Guards Break room for Guards to chill out in? (Am watching to much Prison Break).
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Omri on February 06, 2008, 09:27:47 pm
Why all the people working on one diffent jail ? Why you dont work together and creating the ultimate jail ?
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Dogmatic on February 06, 2008, 09:57:18 pm
Well, there is a way to make one, like the ones in singleplayer.

You set the object, set the animation when you press F key, then set the players HP + 10 and take $1 away.

It sounds simple, but its really not

Or you can just put a pickup in front of the soda machine, that opens up a menu with different drinks and such. really not that hard.

And your way is easy too..
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Gandalf on February 06, 2008, 10:03:52 pm
Or you can just put a pickup in front of the soda machine, that opens up a menu with different drinks and such. really not that hard.

And your way is easy too..

Method 1 : requires a loop when the 'F' key is pressed and compare to the point of the soda machine. As this key is pressed a lot, causes a lot of script requests = delay.
Method 2 : use of menus is currently limited due to tendency to crash if there are too many menus open.

Next.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 06, 2008, 10:05:51 pm
Method 1 : requires a loop when the 'F' key is pressed and compare to the point of the soda machine. As this key is pressed a lot, causes a lot of script requests = delay.
Method 2 : use of menus is currently limited due to tendency to crash if there are too many menus open.

Next.
Make it like VC:MP sprunk machines.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Jcstodds on February 06, 2008, 10:10:45 pm
Could you have a sprunk machine and a /buy sprunk command when in the vicinity?
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 10:32:01 pm
Why all the people working on one diffent jail ? Why you dont work together and creating the ultimate jail ?
I honestly have no clue.

But, i dont see the need to as for help, unless i need it, its the way i am.
I like my prison, i like the fact that im not letting the prisoners out, others dont, but who cares?
I like the fact that my modernized prison is very good.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Rusty on February 06, 2008, 10:39:47 pm
There will be a way out of the Prison via Escaping Hayden even if it means taking a guard hostage :P
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 06, 2008, 11:06:16 pm
There will be a way out of the Prison via Escaping Hayden even if it means taking a guard hostage :P
Omfg THANK YOU RUSTY! :banana:

See people....
He will be the 1st person out of the prison, he is smart & clever.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Pandalink on February 07, 2008, 12:14:56 am
I like Hayden's actual Prison, but not so much his ideas behind the conviction and sentences there.

But then, if its all real nice then bah, I'll take a nice object creation anyway.  :D
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 07, 2008, 12:26:03 am
If things go the way i see them - we will have fun in prison.
There could be things like a lunch room, all that, but i do not know where to get any interiors that are blank.

You cant just see it as 'locked from the server' you gotta see it as 'other community, new world'
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: schfifty on February 07, 2008, 03:26:37 am
Looks good ;)
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 07, 2008, 03:40:10 am
Thanks Schfifty,

It took some hard work, and 243-249 objects, some time and planning, and im only 1/2 done :D
gotta complete the interior cells and a little badabing badaboom, done.

Badabing Badaboom = scripting :(
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: schfifty on February 07, 2008, 03:55:29 am
well i hope i never have to visit it  :lol:
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Abraham on February 07, 2008, 04:39:13 am
This would be so cool, I'd probably kill Gandalf while selling drugs to the SAPD just to get in there.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: MrEcks on February 07, 2008, 04:41:33 am
well i hope i never have to visit it  :lol:

*MrEcks plants evidence to a cop murder on Luke.

Looks nice, but it wouldn't be a real prison without gangs on the inside and riots.

P.S.  Escaping from prison and helping someone escape sounds fun, and would open up new jobs for guards, but will guards fall under ARPD?
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: schfifty on February 07, 2008, 05:55:49 am
I swear I didn't kill that cop...darn maybe I will get to visit it someday Hayden  :(
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Knoothead on February 07, 2008, 08:13:30 am
P.S.  Escaping from prison and helping someone escape sounds fun, and would open up new jobs for guards, but will guards fall under ARPD?

I DO REALLY HOPE SO :)
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Specter on February 07, 2008, 08:32:14 am
Good Hayden, good work...
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Pandalink on February 07, 2008, 05:42:56 pm
Guards should not be ARPD, they should be a seperate group.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Wael90 on February 07, 2008, 06:37:41 pm
That's why there are Cadets i suppose. In my opinion Cadets have way too many rights here..
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Pandalink on February 07, 2008, 11:28:47 pm
That's why there are Cadets i suppose. In my opinion Cadets have way too many rights here..

How do you mean? Cadets have the rights that all Cops should have.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 07, 2008, 11:40:57 pm
I think that there shouldn't be a suspect arrest script in jail so a better way to pay guards need to be found.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 08, 2008, 12:16:06 am
Well with this, i didnt want it like /jail ID is for regular jail.

Maybe the government could 'payday' the people with the job every hour on the hour
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 08, 2008, 12:21:03 am
Well with this, i didnt want it like /jail ID is for regular jail.

Maybe the government could 'payday' the people with the job every hour on the hour
yes but with a idling script that doesn't allow them to stay stoped. Unless for the tower guards. Tower guards should have rifles but also should be able to get near the inmates.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: BlackBird on February 08, 2008, 01:01:32 am
i was exploring the SA:MP forums and someone had a prison and for the command it was
/msp Time (maximuim security prison)
or you would automatically be sent there for killing someone in jail etc. etc.
it would be for x amount of time anywhere from 5 minutes to 3 hours RL time
Though if something like this Only admins should be in control of it or one part of ARPD or sumthing to act as the Prison security/Warden(s) so that they may decide on the time
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 08, 2008, 01:28:25 am
yes but with a idling script that doesn't allow them to stay stoped. Unless for the tower guards. Tower guards should have rifles but also should be able to get near the inmates.
Well there is 2 options for that, and 2 other counter-measure for the 'anti-idle'

1) 15 min idle kick when your on the prison job - so if you stand still for 15 mins - kick.
2) Admins have to watch over them, and keep checking up.

Counter-measures
1) They have a hack, or some kind of bug dubbed 'the running man' which it keeps you running straight non stop - thus allowing you to 'bypass' the AFK timer.
2) If we implement the 15 min timer - we enforce a STRICT rule about AFKing on the job
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Rusty on February 08, 2008, 01:56:46 pm
Omfg THANK YOU RUSTY! :banana:

See people....
He will be the 1st person out of the prison, he is smart & clever.

Hahaha. (( Hope to Be First to Breakout Successfully))

Will you have Jobs for Inmates inside like Prison Industries (Cleaning, Gardening, Washing etc)?  So Inmates can earn a few Dollars (something like $50).  Guard on the Towers shouldn't be allowed to leave their Tower as that what Guards on the ground are for to watch over the Yard and stuff.  So will there be like a warden who runs the Prison daily as a Prison wouldn't be complete without a Bad Ass Warden :)
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Anto on February 08, 2008, 03:17:20 pm
Name: [Rstar]]Anto
Job: Prison Guard( top one)
Experiance: ALS security former leader and DD leader of security, and runing my own protection business, i am also An officer in ARPD.
Pay: none :)


 :D
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Luca_Scalise on February 08, 2008, 03:21:48 pm
Probably the jailed, if will be implemented, will be guarded by SAPD officers with the country cop uniform
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: tiderman on February 08, 2008, 03:28:48 pm
Looks awesome hayden, good job.

The name makes me think of half life.. Nova Prospekt.. Black Mesa Facillity :D
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Anto on February 08, 2008, 03:30:48 pm
Probably the jailed, if will be implemented, will be guarded by SAPD officers with the country cop uniform

Probs, but Hayden will have the biggest say in it, it is his idea. if it goes through.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: PMP on February 08, 2008, 04:00:30 pm
Probs, but Hayden will have the biggest say in it, it is his idea. if it goes through.
It is mine too.

Hayden, what about a script that makes you check a place, then another. This way guards will have to make a sistematic watch.
Also, when an inmate breaksout. Guards should loose money. And/or get fired.

Hayden, post some pics of the interior.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 08, 2008, 07:24:04 pm
It is mine too.
Well no.
You reminded me of the idea, you have your own topic - i have mine.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Maximus on February 11, 2008, 07:39:38 pm
looks damn nice, but its tooooo big tho, and you forgot a very important thing, basketball court.

another thing: prison look to fancy, make it more like the one from prison break with a modern and still thoro touch to it.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Andre Tamm on February 11, 2008, 07:43:50 pm
Citizen Cope - Let the drummer kick

I've used the song in my video too, but before than You :P

The desing is nice, and to be honest - You're a good mapper :)
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on February 11, 2008, 07:52:18 pm
looks cool but I really dont feel for Locking up people who are rp ing crime and giving ARPD more EXclusive rights It has to stop somewhere Soon there willl be nothing to do for people except be play police .
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: el_boricua56 on February 11, 2008, 10:11:49 pm
I support this idea in a 100%, criminals complain about jail and that only police have good feautures, but thats not truth. If you commit the crime be prepare to face the consecuences. Every action have consecuences, you can win the money in a fair way.. but if you choose to commit a crime then there will be consecuences if you get caught. Say criminals have nothing is ...  when they own millionarie casinos, cars, mansions. And then they complain. So what they expect.. the complainers point of view: " i can sellz all my drugs and commit all crimes i want, i dont care i will go only 180 seconds to jail". And the FBI need to spend days and weeks investigating people.. for what?? For 180 seconds and they continue free, like nothing has happened running their illegal bussines. Then the FBI ask themselves.. was the investigation and time worth it? Now that is more unfair for FBI. It would be good to put criminals inside that are proven gulty by a court case. Maybe not weeks or mothns, thats exagerated, but maybe 4 - 10 hours of in-game time is reasonable.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Merc on February 11, 2008, 10:20:48 pm
I support this idea in a 100%, criminals complain about jail and that only police have good feautures, but thats not truth. If you commit the crime be prepare to face the consecuences. Every action have consecuences, you can win the money in a fair way.. but if you choose to commit a crime then there will be consecuences if you get caught. Say criminals have nothing is ...  when they own millionarie casinos, cars, mansions. And then they complain. So what they expect.. the complainers point of view: " i can sellz all my drugs and commit all crimes i want, i dont care i will go only 180 seconds to jail". And the FBI need to spend days and weeks investigating people.. for what?? For 180 seconds and they continue free, like nothing has happened running their illegal bussines. Then the FBI ask themselves.. was the investigation and time worth it? Now that is more unfair for FBI. It would be good to put criminals inside that are proven gulty by a court case. Maybe not weeks or mothns, thats exagerated, but maybe 4 - 10 hours of in-game time is reasonable.

I agree with this idea and with el_boricua, even though im a Criminal, I think it would be better to have longer sentences ingame, rather than getting away with a mere 180 seconds for something like commiting murder. Quote rediculous. The FBI should get more satisfaction when they put their hard work into catching criminals (i.e Seskoms case). Maybe only the badass criminals with the badass crimes should go in the Prison, and not petty corner dealers, and it needs a Jail Sentence thats not too long and not too short, so the Criminal Roleplayer won't lose interest

 :ps: I hope i don't end up here someday :roll:
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Pandalink on February 11, 2008, 10:25:03 pm
Hours, I could happily live with. Maybe 12 hours for the absolute worst crimes, like.. Serial Rape, Mass Murder, or destroying a Lasagne.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Merc on February 11, 2008, 10:29:46 pm
Hours, I could happily live with. Maybe 12 hours for the absolute worst crimes, like.. Serial Rape, Mass Murder, or destroying a Lasagne.
LMFAO :rofl:

 :ps: Need people to reply about how long they think the Criminal should stay in Prison!
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: DeeJay on February 11, 2008, 11:04:56 pm
I like the idea, the worst criminals should be in jail for 6 hours, the medium worst should be in 4 hours and the lowest criminals should be in for 2 hours
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: chris. on February 12, 2008, 01:06:46 am
why not a bit shorter, maybe 1hour and a half for medium crimes?
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: sRy on February 12, 2008, 03:10:43 am
It'll be fun if theres more than 5+ ppl inside the jail but it'll be dead boring if you're all alone...
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: X~Shaheen~X on February 12, 2008, 04:17:40 am
It'll be fun if theres more than 5+ ppl inside the jail but it'll be dead boring if you're all alone...

yeah makes me question if bots would live up our server... im talking about bots who are controled by admins to play with us! like peds and stuff, but wed abuse the crap out of them
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Hyper on February 12, 2008, 08:09:43 am
Nice Idea Hayden :) :)
Especially the second wall is good so ppl can abuse /helpmeup to get out ^^
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on February 12, 2008, 08:15:33 am
Well /helpmeup can be deactivated for TEAM_PRISONERS

And Prison is NOT ANOTHER JAIL

You have to run through the court system to get a prison sentence.
And no, just cos you deal drugs part time, dosent mean your going to prison.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Saint on July 05, 2008, 12:09:35 pm
I have an idea how much time we can be in jail (from another topic, but its mine!)

Killing
1 Kill: 10 min
2 Kills: 20 min
3 Kills: 1 Hour
4 Kills: 1 Day
5 Kills: 4 days
6 Kills: 1 Week

When you kill in the procces or during 1 week


Robbing

Men Robbery: 50 Minutes
Store Robbery: 1 Day
Bank Robbery: 6 Days
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Tovenaarke on July 05, 2008, 12:14:33 pm
I have an idea how much time we can be in jail (from another topic, but its mine!)

Killing
1 Kill: 10 min
2 Kills: 20 min
3 Kills: 1 Hour
4 Kills: 1 Day
5 Kills: 4 days
6 Kills: 1 Week

When you kill in the procces or during 1 week


Robbing

Men Robbery: 50 Minutes
Store Robbery: 1 Day
Bank Robbery: 6 Days


Only if you been cought, or automaticly?

greetz
- Tov.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Saint on July 05, 2008, 12:41:09 pm
If you caught of course...lol.
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Tovenaarke on July 05, 2008, 12:49:45 pm
Nice idea then!

Love it!
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Maladoi on July 05, 2008, 03:42:08 pm
Hehehe Hayden LS the buildings near Skate park + area 51 + some objects = Real prison ... nice imagination , the prison looks great :)
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: NitrOx on July 05, 2008, 07:09:14 pm
very nice but escaping is easy .. if a heli comes and pickup :X.. but still i love the ideaa, and there should be other escape routes also.. also would be cool if blips d be off in prison.. so that guards have to check the cells.. and you can try escaping liek in prison break ;d
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: tiderman on July 05, 2008, 08:02:49 pm
If you kill 6 peeps, you get 1 week..
If you rob a bank, you get 1 week..

Is a bank robbery as bad as a psychopathic serial killar? :p

very nice but escaping is easy .. if a heli comes and pickup :X.. but still i love the ideaa, and there should be other escape routes also.. also would be cool if blips d be off in prison.. so that guards have to check the cells.. and you can try escaping liek in prison break ;d
If you get jailed nitrox, I will make tattoos of the jail and map on my back for sure
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on July 05, 2008, 08:09:38 pm
very nice but escaping is easy .. if a heli comes and pickup :X.. but still i love the ideaa, and there should be other escape routes also.. also would be cool if blips d be off in prison.. so that guards have to check the cells.. and you can try escaping liek in prison break ;d

that also happens in RL a lot (even in our coutry people sometimes escape that way)
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: lavamike on July 05, 2008, 08:22:27 pm
Nice job but instead of the airport as the floor mabey you can find a better ground that would be suitable :p

Like I did for one thing I made for map editor lol  I picked a floor and had to align the gates around the perimeter.

Good Luck

Regards,
-Lava
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on July 06, 2008, 05:26:42 am
Well when I did have this made (I will have to go back and spend hours remaking it, cause I don't have it..) I based it off of an American Modern Prison, not some country one with dirt ground :p

+ all other grounds were out of shape
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Dmitry on July 06, 2008, 08:53:04 am
Wow, like the idea...!
Maybe i'll kill hundreds of people and then run a prison gang xD  :D
Well, we'll see about that xD .

Jope i'll see this one soon ingame :)
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: pumpkin on July 06, 2008, 12:25:30 pm
That will come Argonath=?? ok then should be Jail Time like 30mins that would be Cool and we Prisoners can have Quests
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: pumpkin on July 06, 2008, 12:27:17 pm
that also happens in RL a lot (even in our coutry people sometimes escape that way)

hmm.. good point but i have idea.. they should have Area 69 Auto Rockets what Shoots the Helis what Comes :)
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: pumpkin on July 06, 2008, 12:28:33 pm
If you kill 6 peeps, you get 1 week..
If you rob a bank, you get 1 week..

Yay.. that would be Cool 1 week :O
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on July 06, 2008, 12:30:04 pm
Well, initially there would have been a script to block heli's from flying in, and taking prisoners out.
And it was originally planned to have an interior and exterior, along with cells, a cafeteria, etc.

And people complain about 5 mins in jail in the server.
God knows what would happen if people get jailed for even an hour..
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: pumpkin on July 06, 2008, 12:39:23 pm
L0l i heard that i cant talk with other Prisoners? :O
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: pumpkin on July 06, 2008, 12:51:27 pm
I honestly have no clue.

But, i dont see the need to as for help, unless i need it, its the way i am.
I like my prison, i like the fact that im not letting the prisoners out, others dont, but who cares?
I like the fact that my modernized prison is very good.

yea Best one :)
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Freedom on July 06, 2008, 12:58:24 pm
Well, initially there would have been a script to block heli's from flying in, and taking prisoners out.
And it was originally planned to have an interior and exterior, along with cells, a cafeteria, etc.

And people complain about 5 mins in jail in the server.
God knows what would happen if people get jailed for even an hour..

5 min jail. That is like 5x5mm cell.. But that.. Is a HUGE. U can run for free everywhere and stuff..

btw.. Pumpkin.. Triple'n'double poster.. 3 posts, hayden's 1 post, and then you again with 2 posts..

Don't u see the "modify" button, or are you trying to get postcount +1?
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Husky on July 06, 2008, 05:48:24 pm
Awesome idea  :banana:
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Squeak on July 06, 2008, 08:04:51 pm
Umm, When you're doing it again could ya add A basketball Court, A Boxing ring, Benches in the yard, More Weights?
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: Fatboy_Rob on July 07, 2008, 06:09:52 am
It's a prison, not the YMCA :P

Anyhow, I have the script again for the Prison.
Do not PM me about it, I will not give it to you. Only Gandalf.
And do not get your hopes up because this didn't get scripted last time, and it probably won't this time, sorry/
Title: Re: Argonath Prison Facility - [Hayden's Design]
Post by: DHR.Mike on July 07, 2008, 06:41:09 am
but if you make this cell then people have 2 be jaild longer most people only get jaild 15 sec then i have to be like 5 min or more
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