Argonath RPG - A World of its own

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Title: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: schfifty on February 07, 2008, 03:35:18 am
*Pulls out another crazy idea that is probably worth a giant pile of nothing*

OK so here it is. With all this political hype that has been going on recently, and a random suggestion by Jcstodds, I was thinking it would be cool if the citizens of Argonath could vote for like Mayors or Congressman of sorts. We wouldn't vote for a president or nothing because we already have one who always gets the "Four more years!" shout no matter what. But it would be cool to have government officials of sorts. Maybe separate them into precincts like The Country Side, SF, LS, LV and The Desert, or sub categories of these places. Anyways I guess these people would be more of a Celebrity Figure rather than an actual law maker because we have these people already. But it could be some cool RP. But they could still influence the decision of law making kind of like a "Peoples Vote" thing.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders
Post by: MrEcks on February 07, 2008, 04:20:36 am
I agree with you, plus it would be fun to see some elections setup in Argonath. Hell, you wouldn't even need to script anything, just to place some well written threads and organize some elections... It would still be fun.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders
Post by: Abraham on February 07, 2008, 04:42:56 am
What would they be doing?  :conf: Sounds nothing more then a title to me.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders
Post by: schfifty on February 07, 2008, 05:50:00 am
What would they be doing?  :conf: Sounds nothing more then a title to me.
Well who knows, maybe they could help create simple laws like on drug enforcement and ARPD regulations and such. Maybe we could even create taxes >:-)  BTW abe happy 2000th post *hums a lil tune to happy birthday*

I agree with you, plus it would be fun to see some elections setup in Argonath. Hell, you wouldn't even need to script anything, just to place some well written threads and organize some elections... It would still be fun.

Yeah I mean you wouldn't need much...you could organize some rallys and a forum moderator could create a Poll on the forums in which people could vote only once. You could have the voting expire in like two days or something!
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: lionz on February 07, 2008, 07:06:39 am
The Los Santos Mayor - Vacant
The San Fierro Mayor - [Rstar]Crimson
The Las Venturas Mayor - [Rstar]Sharphis

As for now, the choosing of Mayor's is handed out by Developers and Main Administrators, so I doubt that anything like this could kick off soon.

Regards,
Lionz
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: Maxy on February 07, 2008, 07:48:24 am
True, but Rstar only elects other Rstar.. so It's kind of unfair..
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: Jcstodds on February 07, 2008, 08:12:17 am
At the minute the current mayor's are simply a title for the developers. They do not actually do anything (as RP a mayor).

What could happen, is that if a mayor is elected, he can bridge a gap between the citizens, the police and the developers (high government).

  For example, new laws could be introduced in some areas, and some removed in others. Eg, "the mayor of Aldea Malvada may want to legalise cannabis", there would be a vote on the law, and a result (although there would need to be a reason for the law). 

  Citizens can proceed to the mayor with new ideas for that area, including development of buildings (eg a prison) and such. The power of the police could be altered in different areas by vote, as not all places in the world have the same police and there is a big contrast in the cities of LS, SF and LV.

  It could be good idea because will spark lots of new RP scenarios, will provide jobs etc. Also it could be a bad idea, if after the elections etc, the mayor decides to sit around sayin "worship the mayor" and doesnt do anything. 
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: Gandalf on February 07, 2008, 12:10:07 pm
The original idea of mayors was to get them to organize events and make the city more alive. If we want to elect mayors, they should be willing to work and create jobs and events for their cities. what we saw on other servers, elections are fun. But after elections there was nothing until next elections.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: schfifty on February 07, 2008, 01:51:07 pm
It wouldn't even have to be mayors...I mean I guess we could elect more than one rep to an area. They could be senators or something! And yeah I agree they would have to do their job.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: PMP on February 07, 2008, 02:13:40 pm
The original idea of mayors was to get them to organize events and make the city more alive. If we want to elect mayors, they should be willing to work and create jobs and events for their cities. what we saw on other servers, elections are fun. But after elections there was nothing until next elections.

People would end up voting you for everything  :lol:

But anyway. It's a good idea.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: Jcstodds on February 07, 2008, 06:00:06 pm
The original idea of mayors was to get them to organize events and make the city more alive. If we want to elect mayors, they should be willing to work and create jobs and events for their cities. what we saw on other servers, elections are fun. But after elections there was nothing until next elections.


 If we had elections, and mayors were elected, the election itself would be an interesting event with the mayors giving speeches etc, would provide jobs for security/ transport. If they did nothing then they would be doing no less than current mayors, but would have had fun in process.
  Of course, mayors should help create events and such, have an influence on laws in their area (for RP role?) (with agreement of other government). My understanding of mayors and politics isnt very much, im just trying to explore ways to make the life in Argonath more interesting.

... Will see how this idea develops :)
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: WDoyle on February 07, 2008, 06:06:13 pm
I applied for mayor ages back to Gandalf. This decision was never return on.
I was going to run as LS Mayor and kick the city in to shape.
This idea is good and would like to see what you guys believe about this idea.
Regards
Haldir
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: Iceboy on February 07, 2008, 06:26:25 pm
I'd like Haldir as LS mayor, that might bring up some cool events and things to do in LS :D
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: Jcstodds on February 07, 2008, 06:29:37 pm
There is a reason no one is Mayor of LS :D                          ... Well actually I can think of many!
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: Wael90 on February 07, 2008, 06:40:57 pm
I could be LS major :D , but i think only Admins can be Majors eh? =/
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: Aragorn on February 07, 2008, 08:15:53 pm
Whats a point of elections? New ranks and statuses???

 :ps: Lets see how SAPD will manage their organizing... If they will be all right - we ll see about mayors...
But We do not like to give ranks for nothing... It should be deserved...
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: PMP on February 07, 2008, 10:24:37 pm
Whats a point of elections? New ranks and statuses???

 :ps: Lets see how SAPD will manage their organizing... If they will be all right - we ll see about mayors...
But We do not like to give ranks for nothing... It should be deserved...
Most politicians don't deserve their status but they still have it. Why not having elections. with debates and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: schfifty on February 07, 2008, 11:21:43 pm
The Founders of the server would have absolute power but I mean they could let the Citizens vote for who they wanted. As I said, we could have elections based on their Campaigns and Rallys.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: PMP on February 07, 2008, 11:42:33 pm
Removed
Flamming isn't allowed here.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: cDa on February 08, 2008, 12:36:59 am
Removed reason flame

U just flamed one of the guys who made all this posible.... bad idea friend, bad.

About elections, I think No, why?

Look at oscar awards, did 1, yes one person vote what he/she trully thought or did they all vote for their friends?
Same for elections, 15 guys in mafia/group would elect their friend who is rarely on and is a dmer sometimes, why? because he has friends like him.

I say These people made this server, if we can do anything to give them praise they deserver, lets give them goverment.

 :ps: when on praise part, why i always see stuff like devs screved up this and that? Im waitting for 1
 topic with name Tnx devs, or great script devs, or tnx for making this all posible..  but as the time passes, not even one topic in whole forum.
Think bout that.

tnx for your time
cDa
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: schfifty on February 08, 2008, 12:40:57 am
Aragorn is assuming we are to stupid to do vote on a good president and stuff.
It's like dictators do.

Ummm...I would be careful where you post that.

Cda, I know what you mean about the popularity thing, but isn't it the same in the real world? I mean all african americans are going to vote for Obama, all women are going to vote for Hilary, all christian conservatives are probably going to vote for Huckabee, and so on and so forth. It wouldn't be much different for the server. Except it would be gangs instead of religions/states. Oh, and just for the record, we HAVE all probably been a little greedy/selfish with our compliments to the people who made Argonath possible. So thanks guys. It took a post for me to realize it.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: [GSF]Niall on February 08, 2008, 12:43:41 am
:ps: when on praise part, why i always see stuff like devs screved up this and that? Im waitting for 1
 topic with name Tnx devs, or great script devs, or tnx for making this all posible..  but as the time passes, not even one topic in whole forum.
Think bout that.
You have not looked good enough then
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: schfifty on February 08, 2008, 12:45:18 am
Whoa there boys...take it down a notch
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: BlackBird on February 08, 2008, 12:58:09 am
PmP
Why is it every time someone disagrees with you they get a big fireplace full of flame from you?
Argonath is a great server without you flaming everyone every 5 minutes cause you dont like something they did, Or you dont agree with one of there ideas, because of this you are losing mass amounts of respect, and probally on the verge of a ban.
Take a chill pill, no one flamed you or provoked you, Your pissed off cause Ron disagrees with something you think, Tell yah what I dont agree with it either, i dont want the mayors of each city being voted for by the citizens of argonath, it should remain Developers choice Plain and Simple.

The original idea of mayors was to get them to organize events and make the city more alive. If we want to elect mayors, they should be willing to work and create jobs and events for their cities. what we saw on other servers, elections are fun. But after elections there was nothing until next elections.
;) im bringin LV back one aprty at a time gandalf  :D and its thanks to you to for the help at the grand opening party  :D
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: schfifty on February 08, 2008, 01:14:35 am
Well since this topic has resulted in too much flame, I guess it was another one of my stupid ideas :D anyways I guess Argonath just isn't ready for it or something...oh well! ;)
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: PMP on February 08, 2008, 01:21:29 am
Well since this topic has resulted in too much flame, I guess it was another one of my stupid ideas :D anyways I guess Argonath just isn't ready for it or something...oh well! ;)
yup, couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: WDoyle on February 08, 2008, 01:01:08 pm
yup, couldn't agree more.

PMP, You know your flame is starting to ruin this topic.
Anymore on any of the forums, will result in a forum warning. This will consequentialy result in all your posts being moderated by a main admin and if any more flame appears, You will be muted for a number of days until you understand that Flame is not allowed here.

Regards
Haldir
Title: Re: Congress/Political Leaders of Argonath
Post by: PMP on February 08, 2008, 04:02:05 pm
PMP, You know your flame is starting to ruin this topic.
Anymore on any of the forums, will result in a forum warning. This will consequentialy result in all your posts being moderated by a main admin and if any more flame appears, You will be muted for a number of days until you understand that Flame is not allowed here.

Regards
Haldir
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