Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Andeey on May 02, 2019, 12:45:50 am
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G'day everyone,
With the SA:MP servers population down once more it's our job as HQ to find out the main core problems and do our best to fix them, Alot of people think we don't care or we can't be bothered to fix every little thing but we do and we will try our best but often real life get's in the way of a job such as Argonath(getting older sucks)
So with that being said we have created a new Feedback form where we urge all players that play the SA:MP server to fill out and give their honest opinions, We will not judge you on your opinion even if you comment about certain HQ members etc or don't like the way we are handling things.
Please be as honest as possible and we can try to fix some problems.
Click the HERE (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?action=form;n=22) to fill out a feedback form! (HQ will review each and every form together, If you don't hear back from us on your feedback it doesn't mean it's ignored it's just that we have no further questions.)
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I'm pretty sure the main cause at the moment is the fact that a lot of players have moved onto GTA V, and the rest just don't play because the player count is low.
I'm nobody to decide, but if you really wanted to keep the SA:MP server going forward after finally getting back a decent player count, launching GTA V at this time was the wrong choice.
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launching GTA V at this time was the wrong choice.
:lol:
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Let it go
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I'm pretty sure the main cause at the moment is the fact that a lot of players have moved onto GTA V, and the rest just don't play because the player count is low.
I'm nobody to decide, but if you really wanted to keep the SA:MP server going forward after finally getting back a decent player count, launching GTA V at this time was the wrong choice.
Agree with this, although some people have exams. GTAV and exams are the reason why sa:mp is so low on players.
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Can we cut the exam bs lol? Exams is not the issue. Lots and lots of players finished school already. Never before it was 0 cause of exams, it may decrease by few who actually do study like crazy, but its not the core issue here.
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Can we cut the exam bs lol? Exams is not the issue. Lots and lots of players finished school already. Never before it was 0 cause of exams, it may decrease by few who actually do study like crazy, but its not the core issue here.
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The exams excuse was old and irrelevant 10 years ago already. Low player base = less people joining in = less new players joining. Only way to get it back active is to somehow manage to attempt to get near the old player base count.
And no, not by hosting events.
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SA:MP foo real.
We all should donate money to HQ so they can put advertisement and make more players join
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And no, not by hosting events.
I'd join RP events or gatherings. I would never ever join the server for a DD, escape the shamal or whatever the fuck, no sir, they have to be banned.
Also why not make this public man, let's just talk, everyone.
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Maybe some new players dont come to play again from : bad attitude , cant speak english
Can interpenters work with the adminstration team to understand other languages?
Maybe as our friend said :"some people cant join because of exams"
And some players have some issues with thier parents so they cant play in this server
Maybe you can get a lot of players by getting them what they really want by advertising thier "awesome" activities and feutures to attract new players and make old players get exciting to play on this server again
Try making a suggestion box for what they like to do in gta sa
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I agree with Hidduh, we also should upload some quality roleplay videos on YT, thats gonna bring us new comers.
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And no, not by hosting events.
I'd join RP events or gatherings. I would never ever join the server for a DD, escape the shamal or whatever the fuck, no sir, they have to be banned.
Also why not make this public man, let's just talk, everyone.
This isn't public because people might want discretion on their words and also to prevent a shitstorm which will inevitably happen when people talk about problems they have with people/scripts.
Also i like the idea to create roleplay events instead of unrealistic events that cause players to die etc, We could form a sort of events team to plan events each week and we can prepare for them with maps and scripts if needed.
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And no, not by hosting events.
I'd join RP events or gatherings. I would never ever join the server for a DD, escape the shamal or whatever the fuck, no sir, they have to be banned.
Also why not make this public man, let's just talk, everyone.
This isn't public because people might want discretion on their words and also to prevent a shitstorm which will inevitably happen when people talk about problems they have with people/scripts.
Also i like the idea to create roleplay events instead of unrealistic events that cause players to die etc, We could form a sort of events team to plan events each week and we can prepare for them with maps and scripts if needed.
what's the point of on making the feedback topics (not public) ?
then what is the difference between sending a pm to HQ or making a hidden topic to hq (seen by only the player nd and hq members) ?
i sent manny complains and feedback (pms ) to almost all HQ members and Almost Non of them is being answered
all the HQ members just IGNORED my pms
and starting by you andeey ! :)
so the question (what is the point this topic that u created today )
is it
-Getting feedback from players and responding to them in order to make the server better and BRINGS back players who lost interest on this community !
OR is it
-Showing to players that "HQ cares about the community players " ? while it ignored each pm that comes from them
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@badboy.dhia players have a chance to tell any issues that they have. Whether its against anyone from staff, scripts or whatever. None will judge you for what you've said this way, as it would be if made public. They are collecting information to work effectively. It's s good idea and shouldn't be influenced in a bad way.
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@badboy.dhia players have a chance to tell any issues that they have. Whether its against anyone from staff, scripts or whatever. None will judge you for what you've said this way, as it would be if made public. They are collecting information to work effectively. It's s good idea and shouldn't be influenced in a bad way.
what is the difference between using forum pm and this topic ?
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Don't allow inactive people to hold properties. Potential positive results any way you look at it.
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@badboy.dhia players have a chance to tell any issues that they have. Whether its against anyone from staff, scripts or whatever. None will judge you for what you've said this way, as it would be if made public. They are collecting information to work effectively. It's s good idea and shouldn't be influenced in a bad way.
what is the difference between using forum pm and this topic ?
I really don't understand your issues. They created a form asking players for opinion, can you stop looking for issues?
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Don't allow inactive people to hold properties. Potential positive results any way you look at it.
Yes
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Don't allow inactive people to hold properties. Potential positive results any way you look at it.
:app:
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Don't allow inactive people to hold properties. Potential positive results any way you look at it.
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Also why not make this public man, let's just talk, everyone.
This isn't public because people might want discretion on their words and also to prevent a shitstorm which will inevitably happen when people talk about problems they have with people/scripts.
Also i like the idea to create roleplay events instead of unrealistic events that cause players to die etc, We could form a sort of events team to plan events each week and we can prepare for them with maps and scripts if needed.
Yeah exactly. Let's get rid of the people creating said shitstorms :p
Problem with private is we don't know what goes on and that's one of the problems with admins lol
Yeah the properties aren't keeping players from joining xD Who's gonna play with said properties?
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Also i like the idea to create roleplay events instead of unrealistic events that cause players to die etc, We could form a sort of events team to plan events each week and we can prepare for them with maps and scripts if needed.
Agreed.
I got this idea i hope you can implement it, how about add a building in the middle of the ocean and teleport players to the roof of it and let them dodge the plane and if they get hit by the plane they will fall in the water so they wont die and it will be realistic
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Also i like the idea to create roleplay events instead of unrealistic events that cause players to die etc, We could form a sort of events team to plan events each week and we can prepare for them with maps and scripts if needed.
Agreed.
I got this idea i hope you can implement it, how about add a building in the middle of the ocean and teleport players to the roof of it and let them dodge the plane and if they get hit by the plane they will fall in the water so they wont die and it will be realistic
Awesome idea! Or even better, we could make these zones on the map that people can fight for daily to assure we have dm at least once a day!
:war:
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Numbers might grow again since apparently our GTA V-server is no more lol
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Also i like the idea to create roleplay events instead of unrealistic events that cause players to die etc, We could form a sort of events team to plan events each week and we can prepare for them with maps and scripts if needed.
Agreed.
I got this idea i hope you can implement it, how about add a building in the middle of the ocean and teleport players to the roof of it and let them dodge the plane and if they get hit by the plane they will fall in the water so they wont die and it will be realistic
Not everyone has titanium plated bones to survive a plane hit to the face :D
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Want RP event?
Then bring back mordor or some sort of mapped prison so SAPD can do RP there with the criminals
also bring back weapon craft for RP trademarket
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Want RP event?
Then bring back mordor or some sort of mapped prison so SAPD can do RP there with the criminals
also bring back weapon craft for RP trademarket
Make area 69 a prison with some mapping. Would be very nice
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launching GTA V at this time was the wrong choice.
:lol:
Still funny now? :lol:
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Thanks to everybody for posting their feedback about the SA:MP server, It has been very helpful for HQ to see what's causing issues from a players point of view.
But don't worry this doesn't mean the feedback system is done with, Keep sending in your feedback and we will actively work to fix each and every problem as best we can.
Keep your eyes out for some changes coming in the next few days!
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I want to see the changes first, before I even reconsider reinstalling SA:MP back onto my PC. The past hasn't been kind to HQ, at least from my point of view. I have no or barely any trust remaining, I do hope these changes can regain the trust, which will allow comfort.
I highly doubt I'm alone.
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The problem with the Samp server is that the functions are the same and do not change. The player gets little money when he does the job. I also see the rules that must be changed and the staff should be good with the people.
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Find ways to support RP groups and businesses... Support everything different, bring some diversity to the server... Every bloody kiddo is a big ass mafia dude...
About the Event Team ... RP events only... no, I don't want to dodge a plane on an RP server, that's what freeroam is made for.
Get the mentality inside people, that RPing is the right way to make a living, open restaurants, bars... spend money there. Invest, time and money. It's been quite a couple of years since my inactive ass has noticed any group doing proper bar nights, apart from the few MC Clubs we have(though I could be wrong on this one). I recall there was some group hosting gambling games during night openings on the VIP lounge... That's the kind of shit we need.
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Find ways to support RP groups and businesses... Support everything different, bring some diversity to the server... Every bloody kiddo is a big ass mafia dude...
About the Event Team ... RP events only... no, I don't want to dodge a plane on an RP server, that's what freeroam is made for.
Get the mentality inside people, that RPing is the right way to make a living, open restaurants, bars... spend money there. Invest, time and money. It's been quite a couple of years since my inactive ass has noticed any group doing proper bar nights, apart from the few MC Clubs we have(though I could be wrong on this one). I recall there was some group hosting gambling games during night openings on the VIP lounge... That's the kind of shit we need.
The event team will be RP events only, We could bring back a proper system of Business support funds to help get some business' on their feet.
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Rp events such as DD and marathons? Well you are not gonna get far with that :D
The real problems have gone so far up already, that theres no coming back from this anymore.
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I say someone from the staff team makes a topic asking "Why don't you play on the SA:MP Server", then throughout the answers you'll understand what the samp server actually needs, to be honest we don't need this Feedback bs since we don't actually know why players don't play here unless y'all do and I don't.
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Find ways to support RP groups and businesses... Support everything different, bring some diversity to the server... Every bloody kiddo is a big ass mafia dude...
About the Event Team ... RP events only... no, I don't want to dodge a plane on an RP server, that's what freeroam is made for.
Get the mentality inside people, that RPing is the right way to make a living, open restaurants, bars... spend money there. Invest, time and money. It's been quite a couple of years since my inactive ass has noticed any group doing proper bar nights, apart from the few MC Clubs we have(though I could be wrong on this one). I recall there was some group hosting gambling games during night openings on the VIP lounge... That's the kind of shit we need.
The event team will be RP events only, We could bring back a proper system of Business support funds to help get some business' on their feet.
The funding system is already back, and its proper. Theres no proper way to spemd the funds however.
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Rp events such as DD and marathons? Well you are not gonna get far with that :D
The real problems have gone so far up already, that theres no coming back from this anymore.
I listed somewhere that it would be planned events that would be planned during the week and run on weekends, full mapping support and events that each side of the server can enjoy, Criminal, Law, Civilian etc, Also with some events catered do targeted factions only.
Like back in the day when you would see 50 criminals all band together and Roleplay a bank robbery and 50 police would try handle the situation as professionally and as safely as possible. Sure it mostly ended up in a mass shooting but it gave people a reason to toss aside their hate for one another and work together and just have fun.
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Like back in the day when you would see 50 criminals all band together and Roleplay a bank robbery and 50 police would try handle the situation as professionally and as safely as possible. Sure it mostly ended up in a mass shooting but it gave people a reason to toss aside their hate for one another and work together and just have fun.
GL finding these 50 for any of these situations, I'm guessing you're just a wee bit late with all this.
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Like back in the day when you would see 50 criminals all band together and Roleplay a bank robbery and 50 police would try handle the situation as professionally and as safely as possible. Sure it mostly ended up in a mass shooting but it gave people a reason to toss aside their hate for one another and work together and just have fun.
GL finding these 50 for any of these situations, I'm guessing you're just a wee bit late with all this.
This is true, but the numbers will follow. iirc you mapped fire in Ganton once and created a RP scene out of that one, stuff liket that is needed.
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one of the reasons why the server is deserted is because of some arrogant admins/managers who likes to pull the banhammer too quick without any proper evidence. they should realy fix their attitudes with due respect
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one of the reasons why the server is deserted is because of some arrogant admins/managers who likes to pull the banhammer too quick without any proper evidence. they should realy fix their attitudes with due respect
The staff team is currently under review, Hopefully we can fix these problems with a few removals and a few meetings to get on the same page and realign our mindsets.
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one of the reasons why the server is deserted is because of some arrogant admins/managers who likes to pull the banhammer too quick without any proper evidence. they should realy fix their attitudes with due respect
The staff team is currently under review, Hopefully we can fix these problems with a few removals and a few meetings to get on the same page and realign our mindsets.
I see this is an absolute win!
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Veterans thinking they have privilege to do mostly what they want with little to zero consequences just because they are veterans
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Hi guys, thanks for the responses above. I don't have access to the form responses but the responses in this thread have been good. I summarized them here:
Concerns:
- Over promise and under deliver
- Launch and closure of V:MP server
- Lack of advertisement
- Lack of players
- Lack of things to do (bring in more RP events)
- Staff attitude
- Staff inactivity
- Staff reaction is too quick (ban hammer all the time)
- HQ is not transparent
- HQ does not provide communication on the inner workings
- HQ ignores people
- HQ ignores PMs
- Allowing inactive people to hold on to properties
- Veteran privilege
I'm working on action items now and will provide an update shortly on what we will be doing to fix these problems.