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Title: Open up the V server again
Post by: Lustigkurre on May 03, 2019, 10:26:53 pm
Ffs, open up the gta v server again. It's the only way to go. SAMP era is over. The player numbers will come eventually. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Shaman on May 03, 2019, 10:40:34 pm
Exactly, why the hell can't we play cause of their fights.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Mario94 on May 03, 2019, 10:46:09 pm
Nice job, developing for 3 months then shutting down everything over some bullshit. Also we, as players, are punished the most. Thanks
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Mr. Goobii on May 03, 2019, 10:47:02 pm
Armelin, bring it back!  :(
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Hubbestubbe on May 03, 2019, 10:48:54 pm
Supported
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: louay on May 03, 2019, 11:09:33 pm
Bring it back Armelin
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: jNewtonik on May 03, 2019, 11:22:38 pm
I don't deserve this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1uVKGsXHM4
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Andeey on May 04, 2019, 12:00:12 am
I can understand where they are coming from, but there will always be those who speak negatively about your server, But the ones who enjoy the environment you have provided will always outweigh the bad negative players, Just keep doing what you're doing and prove the haters wrong and im sure your playercount will bring you hope again.

It was not a good idea to call it quits so soon, Give it a little time to progress.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Badandy on May 04, 2019, 12:12:05 am
I can understand where they are coming from, but there will always be those who speak negatively about your server, But the ones who enjoy the environment you have provided will always outweigh the bad negative players, Just keep doing what you're doing and prove the haters wrong and im sure your playercount will bring you hope again.

It was not a good idea to call it quits so soon, Give it a little time to progress.

I wouldn't call myself a hater but okay. I do hope the server comes back up. I did lose my temper with him but my criticism stands.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Hernandez on May 04, 2019, 12:14:29 am
What just happened ? can anyone explain ?
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: badboy.dhia on May 04, 2019, 01:10:41 am
What just happened ? can anyone explain ?
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=126235
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Ellz121 on May 04, 2019, 01:50:19 am
3 months is literally nothing. You can't just gain a player base over night....the more you develop it the more players there will be. It's pretty simple. It all takes time.
People have already invested so much time playing this server, it seems pretty unfair to just close it after 3 months. 99% of the players were enjoying it... you can't really ask for much more.

I'm sure it will be back soon enough as its the only realistic future for the GTA community here.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Bas on May 04, 2019, 01:52:20 am
Just give it a few days and see how things pan out. Though I have to say leaving over a fairly minor argument is never a good thing.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Kalvin on May 04, 2019, 08:44:56 am
Oh come on, bring it back.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Hernandez on May 04, 2019, 10:56:58 am
You don't expect growth in players count when no advertising is being made, because there always should be a source bringing players. All of those who've been to V were already Argonath members. I am certainly sure when people discover the server they would be obsessed with it. Seriously give it sometime, in the meantime a whole group should work on videos, pictures and advertising them to gaming forums.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Serifis on May 04, 2019, 11:26:22 am
Doesn't matter what happened, Respect and one huge THANK YOU for what you have done for us all this time!
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Toreto on May 04, 2019, 12:00:42 pm
that's normal to find few players in that time of the year, and the same was happening in IV for the past years.
and the reason is that most of Argo players are still studying,

you can observe the current player count,
and their count at June,July,August and September.

Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: aammrroo1 on May 04, 2019, 03:11:02 pm
Doesn't matter what happened, Respect and one huge THANK YOU for what you have done for us all this time!
^^
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Carnage264 on May 04, 2019, 03:40:35 pm
I actually had to do work today instead of grinding out missions. work aint as fun without my LSFD buddies.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Senate on May 04, 2019, 04:26:27 pm
Supported.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Mark on May 04, 2019, 05:05:17 pm
Open it but only if you are gonna script in Java, oof.

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Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Jcstodds on May 04, 2019, 05:25:36 pm
Please bring it back!
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Julio. on May 04, 2019, 07:22:59 pm
GTA V is the best chance we have of injecting a bit more activity into this community in my opinion, surely this hasn't been closed just for lack of activity?
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: stodd99 on May 04, 2019, 08:01:31 pm
Please reopen it! Only reason i started playing V again was for this server
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: JackDockz on May 04, 2019, 08:10:34 pm
Nice Idea should be implemented
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Carbon on May 04, 2019, 10:33:19 pm
Hey guys. Got some information that the server is down. Just to remind you guys it is not allowed in anyway and it will be online as soon i reach the developers again.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: superh2o on May 04, 2019, 11:16:07 pm
You really cant force only dev of ivmp and vmp to do something he dosnt want, leave the man be its his choice he raised ivmp from ashes once and made a vmp server script.

I will support him for all the things he has done for argo.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Bas on May 05, 2019, 12:53:52 am
You really cant force only dev of ivmp and vmp to do something he dosnt want, leave the man be its his choice he raised ivmp from ashes once and made a vmp server script.

I will support him for all the things he has done for argo.

It is his choice to leave, and is free to do so. He is however not free to take the code or turn a service off that argonath provides. Shame it has to come to this.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: badboy.dhia on May 05, 2019, 01:48:22 am
You really cant force only dev of ivmp and vmp to do something he dosnt want, leave the man be its his choice he raised ivmp from ashes once and made a vmp server script.

I will support him for all the things he has done for argo.

It is his choice to leave, and is free to do so. He is however not free to take the code or turn a service off that argonath provides. Shame it has to come to this.
To remind u that it is HIS CODE
He wrote it . Not u .
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: jNewtonik on May 05, 2019, 04:52:20 am
I love Armelin's job, I respect him as a person but I can't hide my disappointment for this kind of action, it was an undescribed rushed idea to close the server like that, while everyone was waiting
to see so much more before anyone would be able to judge the project, it was so fresh and young to be closed for inactivity or any other apology may be heard.

Please consider to give it some time, @Armelin you are the only one who can revive this community, if you are letting your weapons down you are taking a whole community with you, so please
don't let this innactive or whatever else may be to distract you from your work, stay focused you have guys that are willing to support you till the end.. (But not this one)
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: HemanthTG on May 05, 2019, 05:36:16 am
It's hard to maintain IV and V at the same time, yeah but you can hire some developers like Teddy or the old scriptor we had, Marcel. This will assist Armelin which reduces his stress.
I know it's hard to hire developers and will take some time but how can you depend on a person who scripts for two servers?
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Witchking on May 05, 2019, 09:35:13 am
Hey guys. Got some information that the server is down. Just to remind you guys it is not allowed in anyway and it will be online as soon i reach the developers again.

Cheers.

Wow, what kind of disrespectful statement and promise is that.  without Armelin there is no point to reopen it before a new developement Team is ready.
my Respect goes out to Armelin whatever he chooses to do in the end what he did for Argonath IV:MP - V:MP is beyond Enough.

Peace

 
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Mark on May 05, 2019, 09:55:35 am
Hey guys. Got some information that the server is down. Just to remind you guys it is not allowed in anyway and it will be online as soon i reach the developers again.

Cheers.

Look who woke up after months of silence, our mighty leader!

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Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: JackDockz on May 05, 2019, 10:59:41 am
Since it's Armelins script, it is his wish what he wanna do with that. That's fair
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: James Conway on May 05, 2019, 11:16:31 am
Just to remind you guys it is not allowed in anyway and it will be online as soon i reach the developers again.
Cheers.
What exactly isn't allowed? I feel like you missed a word
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Andeey on May 05, 2019, 11:25:26 am
Just to remind you guys it is not allowed in anyway and it will be online as soon i reach the developers again.
Cheers.
What exactly isn't allowed? I feel like you missed a word
I'm going to assume that closing down the project when it was just getting started isn't allowed or well not an option, I don't know exactly what happened but it does seem kind of childish to close it down and not ask for any help with development or leadership to help grow the server if it was really struggling that badly.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Mark on May 05, 2019, 11:46:47 am
Just to remind you guys it is not allowed in anyway and it will be online as soon i reach the developers again.
Cheers.
What exactly isn't allowed? I feel like you missed a word
I'm going to assume that closing down the project when it was just getting started isn't allowed or well not an option, I don't know exactly what happened but it does seem kind of childish to close it down and not ask for any help with development or leadership to help grow the server if it was really struggling that badly.

If you guys bothered to check V:MP discord you would've known what led to this. It's clearly not activity the "issue". The server had pretty stable playercount compared to SAMP and IVMP put together.

As always in Argonath we first talk out of our ass (oof community leader that is inactive af) and asslick the owner and then we get a leadership we do not even care about and cause more trouble with a post than it's needed.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: AK47 on May 05, 2019, 12:01:26 pm
Just open the server again and remove andy so he cant hurt feelings again! :dance:
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Chase on May 05, 2019, 12:24:33 pm
If Armelin is gone for good then the V:MP gamemode will need to be recreated, even if he leaves the code with Argonath. That's because the server side is made using a C++ SDK and I don't think anyone here knows fluent C++.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Bas on May 05, 2019, 12:27:23 pm
You really cant force only dev of ivmp and vmp to do something he dosnt want, leave the man be its his choice he raised ivmp from ashes once and made a vmp server script.

I will support him for all the things he has done for argo.

It is his choice to leave, and is free to do so. He is however not free to take the code or turn a service off that argonath provides. Shame it has to come to this.
To remind u that it is HIS CODE
He wrote it . Not u .

I know that you love to think this, but just keep in mind that all developers have to sign a that all code created during their time here is owned by Argonath. But as Chase mentioned above he chose to do it in a weird language so if he decides to leave it'll probably have to be remade anyway.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Khm on May 05, 2019, 12:38:16 pm
You really cant force only dev of ivmp and vmp to do something he dosnt want, leave the man be its his choice he raised ivmp from ashes once and made a vmp server script.

I will support him for all the things he has done for argo.

It is his choice to leave, and is free to do so. He is however not free to take the code or turn a service off that argonath provides. Shame it has to come to this.
To remind u that it is HIS CODE
He wrote it . Not u .

But as Chase mentioned above he chose to do it in a weird language so if he decides to leave it'll probably have to be remade anyway.
JS and C++ aren't as weird or as complicated as Pawn and Lua, they are much better. They are even in the top 10 most used languages for years now.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: James Conway on May 05, 2019, 01:43:38 pm
If you guys bothered to check V:MP discord you would've known what led to this. It's clearly not activity the "issue". The server had pretty stable playercount compared to SAMP and IVMP put together.

As always in Argonath we first talk out of our ass (oof community leader that is inactive af) and asslick the owner and then we get a leadership we do not even care about and cause more trouble with a post than it's needed.
I regularly check V discord, the activity is there. It's just not as a great as it was in the beta and if you look at the topic Armelin made it looks like the activity was the ultimate killer. The discussion on discord only fast tracked him to leave. It's too bad you are trying to disgrace the leadership in V though. There are dedicated people in the team who tested and were constantly trying to improve the server. I wouldn't say the leadership was the problem.

I'm going to assume that closing down the project when it was just getting started isn't allowed or well not an option, I don't know exactly what happened but it does seem kind of childish to close it down and not ask for any help with development or leadership to help grow the server if it was really struggling that badly.
At this moment it was Armelins decision to shut it down, we didn't really have time to anticipate on this decision.

If Armelin is gone for good then the V:MP gamemode will need to be recreated, even if he leaves the code with Argonath. That's because the server side is made using a C++ SDK and I don't think anyone here knows fluent C++.
There's a good chance this will be the case, we'll have to see what happens after the dust settles.

Doesn't matter what happened, Respect and one huge THANK YOU for what you have done for us all this time!
I really want to appreciate this message though. Armelin did alot for ArgonathRPG, he brought IV:MP back from the dead when it was vritually gone in 2012. He made his own multiplayer mod making it possible for us to play in T4 IVMP. Then he took initiative by creating a server for V. If it wasn't for him, there'd be alot less on Argonath. So I'm definitely thankful that Armelin has brought us this far.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Mark on May 05, 2019, 02:05:37 pm
I regularly check V discord, the activity is there. It's just not as a great as it was in the beta and if you look at the topic Armelin made it looks like the activity was the ultimate killer. The discussion on discord only fast tracked him to leave. It's too bad you are trying to disgrace the leadership in V though. There are dedicated people in the team who tested and were constantly trying to improve the server. I wouldn't say the leadership was the problem.


I did not say it's V:MP leadership issue and the server was released officially only for a month. I was specifically targetting Andeey's post and Carbon's post previously. You may have got confused by the quote bug.

Armelin imho can do whatever he wants with his game mode, it's sad but at same time there isn't much others can do. Of course he has done a superb job on porting a game mode to V:MP in three months and constantly work on it since release.

If he thinks, we, the players on v:mp, offended him i'm afraid this is not the case. Most of us suggested alot of stuff on the forums as asked, we put hours in the game and that's it. Whatever will happen, it was fun while it lasted
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: James Conway on May 05, 2019, 02:27:25 pm
I did not say it's V:MP leadership issue and the server was released officially only for a month. I was specifically targetting Andeey's post and Carbon's post previously. You may have got confused by the quote bug.
ah, okay.

it was fun while it lasted
definitely
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Carbon on May 05, 2019, 03:10:15 pm
Topic closed. We are already moving on and we have no time for useless discussion. If someone thinks he owns the scripts what he makes for Argonath Community and if he feels like a kiddo one day and gets offended if someone tells him something then its not a strong community and i cant let it happen next time if he gets offended. And again i have to find developers for the server and spend my time on it so some cancerous users on the forums can post some shit about me one day. Grow up guys, its a game and its for the fun. FiveM it is, i will let you know about the process asap.
Title: Re: Open up the V server again
Post by: Norrage on May 06, 2019, 06:08:02 pm
Those who have questions about the situation, feel free to message me with either the forum PM or on Discord. I'll do my best to answer all of the questions ;).
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