Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Sawyer on August 17, 2019, 07:09:23 am
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Greetings.
I'm suggesting that we should take into account providing a second character development for everyone, script supported. Considering the fact that we lack active LEOs as well as criminals, those who are really interested in RPing and having a career in both, why should they be limited into one specific character? Why should SAPD/FBI resign to be part of crime or vice versa? I'm pretty sure more or less every person has tried both at a time and knows where I'm coming from.
My scripting / server development knowledge is rather bad but since Admin+ can be using two accounts, why not a regular player? I personally believe that half our playerbase is inactive due to the fact that they reached a point of having nothing to do after repeatedly dealing with drugs, weed fields, gang wars or constant pursuits, arrests, patrols etc.
Feel free to express your thoughts, I personally would like to see this happening real bad.
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As long as law enforcement don't leak their shit on their second account (make it a bannable offence), supported.
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As long as law enforcement don't leak their shit on their second account (make it a bannable offence), supported.
I saw this coming from a mile. You really think that law enforcement is not in touch with the criminal enemies OOC? :rolleyes: I personally have experienced conversations and even been part of, that we try to time or schedules so both sides can be active at same time to start shitstorms.
I do not see it being an issue due to the fact that you cannot use both accounts at the same time and have a straight forward advantage.
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I'm rather referring to internal case files, data and other such stuff that can cause damage to the law.
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I'm guessing It's a problem now since the place isn't attractive anymore for the people that want to be on the criminal side, you fix that, you won't need this.
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Not supported.
It would cause a lot of issues in the future, especially when it comes to sensitive information.
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Not supported.
It would cause a lot of issues in the future, especially when it comes to sensitive information.
In my opinion it actually spices things up... Groups have to be extra careful with newcomers and remain on high alert as well as the state authorities.
It gives each side the same advantage over the other - all in all both sides will have this ability thus it'll remain balanced.
I totally support it. It's something new, why not give it a try if the majority backs it up.
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It's unfair to use something you have access to from your FBI RP character against the FBI using your criminal character. Make that a bannable offense, and I suppose it might be okay to try.
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Not supported.
It would cause a lot of issues in the future, especially when it comes to sensitive information.
I get what you mean but I'd prefer the future to be bright but somewhat corrupt than non-existent.
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I'm gonna have to say that I can't support this. In general I'd love to see it but as we have no plans for now to introduce metagaming as a rule this will only lead to a lot of issues in terms of leaking from both sides.
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Good luck passing this.
I would, however, support removing the metagame from SAPD/FBI applications. _Gvardia = Criminal to all the uneducated and that's why I could never be a cop. But technically I'm innocent until proven guilty, and therefore they should not deny me. But as always some topkop will say "eww gaydiva miss me with that shit (not biased just saying the truth #independable)" and ruin everything for everyone.
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Is there even a point to having two characters now. It's not like your criminal character is going to be in jail for hours allowing you to then switch to a cop character.
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Not supported
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In short, the script will not be able to support this, no matter how much we want this. This is one of those features that you need to include right from the very start or not at all.
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Pretty much what Marcel said.
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The only workaround is to allow one second account. No more.
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I know i don't play on SAMP but....
Account is just account with nickname, so we can know who is who... on this account you can roleplay multiple characters, and its up to you...change clothes, skin, ingame name with surname and have fun. I cant understand why people stick with their role just to account. Yes noone will set you as police chief if you are in criminal group...but there is no problem to join as freecop
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I have two accounts, but why....please read Argonath history
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I know i don't play on SAMP but....
Account is just account with nickname, so we can know who is who... on this account you can roleplay multiple characters, and its up to you...change clothes, skin, ingame name with surname and have fun. I cant understand why people stick with their role just to account. Yes noone will set you as police chief if you are in criminal group...but there is no problem to join as freecop
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I have two accounts, but why....please read Argonath history
Freecops are gone :crabrave:.
2 accounts is good enough to allow, it's not like Half the criminals who exist haven't been to good positions in sapd or fbi before. They already know all the "confidential" stuff.
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I know i don't play on SAMP but....
Account is just account with nickname, so we can know who is who... on this account you can roleplay multiple characters, and its up to you...change clothes, skin, ingame name with surname and have fun. I cant understand why people stick with their role just to account. Yes noone will set you as police chief if you are in criminal group...but there is no problem to join as freecop
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I have two accounts, but why....please read Argonath history
Aah, 2006 was a different time and different style of role-playing, that players in SAMP these days do not do.
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Supported
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In short, the script will not be able to support this, no matter how much we want this. This is one of those features that you need to include right from the very start or not at all.
The only workaround is to allow one second account. No more.
I guess this can work out accordingly.
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Aah, 2006 was a different time and different style of role-playing, that players in SAMP these days do not do.
Ahhh....stop that crap talk about different times and explaining all your actions with new generation. There are several technical reasons why is one account/person.
1. Security reasons, passwords in main
2. Its for administration to find ban evaders and other rulebreakers
And this that have nothin to RP. RP is all about imagination not accounts. You are not limited to ingame characters.
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Aah, 2006 was a different time and different style of role-playing, that players in SAMP these days do not do.
Ahhh....stop that crap talk about different times and explaining all your actions with new generation. There are several technical reasons why is one account/person.
1. Security reasons, passwords in main
2. Its for administration to find ban evaders and other rulebreakers
And this that have nothin to RP. RP is all about imagination not accounts. You are not limited to ingame characters.
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With all due to respect but I doubt your in-game activity has reached at leat 5 hours the last 5 years.. at least from your actual account not the so called 'UC' one. I was not around until late 2010 but the server has changed drastically from what you remember or consider it to be.
This topic has been turned into the cops and robbers issue once again. It's not about cops and robbers. It's about the server supporting a second character opportunity in order to offer an option of two for one imprtant goal; providing a chance of not boring yourself to /q. Simple as that.
For instance, a mobster of reaching the maximum at one point can just start over a different RPing character in order to work his way to the top all over again. And perhaps sneak into a rival's group sensitive information for his own advantage. There's mystery and action from beneath the table that actually offers in-game activity which we currently lack and try to improve. I don't see how this alternative seems to at least hurt the server at the minimum. The way I see it, it will only trigger the said group of taking further actions and overall being alert which pretty much all of it is directed to one scene; much more interaction and things-to-do instead of pretty much nothing. :neutral2:
Also, I don't know why you included "ban evading". As far as I am concerned, ban evasion is IP and not account related.
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With all due to respect but I doubt your in-game activity has reached at leat 5 hours the last 5 years.. at least from your actual account not the so called 'UC' one. I was not around until late 2010 but the server has changed drastically from what you remember or consider it to be.
With due respect i quited "one year ago". Why you did not notice me? Maybe because i was not a cop or eather a criminal
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With all due to respect but I doubt your in-game activity has reached at leat 5 hours the last 5 years.. at least from your actual account not the so called 'UC' one. I was not around until late 2010 but the server has changed drastically from what you remember or consider it to be.
With due respect i quited "one year ago". Why you did not notice me? Maybe because i was not a cop or eather a criminal
I still fail to see your point.
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No thank you. Be original.
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No thank you. Be original.
So... You're against this because you believe it's not "original" ?
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No thank you. Be original.
So... You're against this because you believe it's not "original" ?
Well it was enough of a reason to shut this (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=128154.0) idea down for Charles, why shouldn't it apply here?
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No thank you. Be original.
So... You're against this because you believe it's not "original" ?
Well it was enough of a reason to shut this (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=128154.0) idea down for Charles, why shouldn't it apply here?
What are you ? Karma ? or like you take things personally on a whole new level man. How is your comment beneficial in any way...
At least offer some criticism if you're truly against the idea damn.
Anyone who suggests an idea is merely trying to implement some new fun and sees it to be helpful for the server to prosper ....
Now if you really are against the idea because you'd rather approach this in a more original way then alright.
However your response shows that you're just trying to teach someone a lesson and .... Wtf..
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What are you ? Karma ? or like you take things personally on a whole new level man. How is your comment beneficial in any way...
At least offer some criticism if you're truly against the idea damn.
Anyone who suggests an idea is merely trying to implement some new fun and sees it to be helpful for the server to prosper ....
Now if you really are against the idea because you'd rather approach this in a more original way then alright.
However your response shows that you're just trying to teach someone a lesson and .... Wtf..
Give me a break, you're making this a bigger deal than it should. If you truly care so much about me understanding a point don't drag the topic further away, you can always pm. But fortunately for you, everyone now gets to see how considerate and responsible you are, unlike an admin. Congratulations now back to the topic, please.
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No thank you. Be original.
So... You're against this because you believe it's not "original" ?
Well it was enough of a reason to shut this (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=128154.0) idea down for Charles, why shouldn't it apply here?
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