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Title: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Gird3r on July 29, 2020, 05:28:31 am
It ain't right. And you know it.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Gregersen on July 29, 2020, 06:26:26 am
Hey there Gird3r <3 
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Kowalski. on July 29, 2020, 06:55:30 am
From what I know, AV moved to "another community".

I could be wrong but this is what I've seen.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: danigold1 on July 29, 2020, 01:05:21 pm
From what I know, AV moved to "another community".
Argonath Veterans are not in Argonath anymore? What?  :uhm:
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Kowalski. on July 29, 2020, 01:18:55 pm
Official status revoked, therefore the Argonath name was no longer allowed to be used in the clan name, therefore they reverted back to Almighty Veterans and moved to another community.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Axison on July 29, 2020, 10:37:21 pm
Official status revoked, therefore the Argonath name was no longer allowed to be used in the clan name, therefore they reverted back to Almighty Veterans and moved to another community.
I didn’t hear anything about this.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Hammer_ on July 30, 2020, 01:29:41 am
From what I know, AV moved to "another community".

I could be wrong but this is what I've seen.
Mate, so did TCL, and so did WS. Can’t blame just a single clan for moving when others did too, no clans are supposed to stay in one community only because its their choice. From what I think, if this is one of the reasons for revoking official statuses, then I pity on those who are butthurt. I could be wrong as well, though but AV is one of the oldest clans, and should maintain the status like any other clan holding it.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Kowalski. on July 30, 2020, 02:58:15 am
No, no, I'm not blaming them, but it's just what I've heard.

As far as I know:

Official status revoked, therefore the Argonath name was no longer allowed to be used in the clan name, therefore they reverted back to Almighty Veterans and moved to another community.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: danigold1 on July 30, 2020, 02:08:48 pm
it's just what I've heard.
Might be a rumor?
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Mr. Goobii on July 30, 2020, 02:17:27 pm
Yes, there is a lot of rumours going on here. AV first started as Almightly Veterans and once they got official on Argonath, they changed their name to Argonath Veterans basically. So the AV has not always been named "Argonath".

Second, they moved to another server and changed their name back to Almightly Veterans and overall shitstormed on Argonath and therefor got their official status revoked from the community and that's fair. If a clan does shit on the community, it's better to ban the clan from the community and move along without them.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Hammer_ on July 30, 2020, 02:35:15 pm
Yes, there is a lot of rumours going on here. AV first started as Almightly Veterans and once they got official on Argonath, they changed their name to Argonath Veterans basically. So the AV has not always been named "Argonath".

Second, they moved to another server and changed their name back to Almightly Veterans and overall shitstormed on Argonath and therefor got their official status revoked from the community and that's fair. If a clan does shit on the community, it's better to ban the clan from the community and move along without them.
But then a g a i n, not only did AV do that. If I shitstorm about you on your face, what’s the max you could do?
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Khm on July 30, 2020, 02:43:09 pm
Yes, there is a lot of rumours going on here. AV first started as Almightly Veterans and once they got official on Argonath, they changed their name to Argonath Veterans basically. So the AV has not always been named "Argonath".

Second, they moved to another server and changed their name back to Almightly Veterans and overall shitstormed on Argonath and therefor got their official status revoked from the community and that's fair. If a clan does shit on the community, it's better to ban the clan from the community and move along without them.
But then a g a i n, not only did AV do that. If I shitstorm about you on your face, what’s the max you could do?
What?
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Mr. Goobii on July 30, 2020, 03:30:37 pm
Yes, there is a lot of rumours going on here. AV first started as Almightly Veterans and once they got official on Argonath, they changed their name to Argonath Veterans basically. So the AV has not always been named "Argonath".

Second, they moved to another server and changed their name back to Almightly Veterans and overall shitstormed on Argonath and therefor got their official status revoked from the community and that's fair. If a clan does shit on the community, it's better to ban the clan from the community and move along without them.
But then a g a i n, not only did AV do that. If I shitstorm about you on your face, what’s the max you could do?

Well, the most I could do right now is to ignore you and give none fuck about you. Simply as that.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Huntsman on July 30, 2020, 06:31:15 pm
Why are you bringing other clans into this? AV moved to another community, logically, the right to wear Argo name was hence revoked. While some of the clans mightve started playing in other communities, theyve never implied or announced that they "moved" there, plus neither of them bear the Argo name, so 🤷‍♂️

Status clans are stupid anyway. They were mostly used by people to be more likely appointed to power positions in the community.

It's a public secret that you were more likely to become an admin or get a appointed a better position in ARPD, ARFD or whatsoever if you had Rstar or WS near your name.  :hah:
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on July 30, 2020, 10:34:36 pm
Clans have no place in a roleplay community.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: danigold1 on July 31, 2020, 12:00:31 am
Clans have no place in a roleplay community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKdNMyX7jxg
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Hammer_ on July 31, 2020, 06:25:49 am
Yes, there is a lot of rumours going on here. AV first started as Almightly Veterans and once they got official on Argonath, they changed their name to Argonath Veterans basically. So the AV has not always been named "Argonath".

Second, they moved to another server and changed their name back to Almightly Veterans and overall shitstormed on Argonath and therefor got their official status revoked from the community and that's fair. If a clan does shit on the community, it's better to ban the clan from the community and move along without them.
But then a g a i n, not only did AV do that. If I shitstorm about you on your face, what’s the max you could do?

Well, the most I could do right now is to ignore you and give none fuck about you. Simply as that.
isn’t it the same thing argo should be doing then? Hehe
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Kessu on July 31, 2020, 10:24:21 am
Yes, there is a lot of rumours going on here. AV first started as Almightly Veterans and once they got official on Argonath, they changed their name to Argonath Veterans basically. So the AV has not always been named "Argonath".

Second, they moved to another server and changed their name back to Almightly Veterans and overall shitstormed on Argonath and therefor got their official status revoked from the community and that's fair. If a clan does shit on the community, it's better to ban the clan from the community and move along without them.
But then a g a i n, not only did AV do that. If I shitstorm about you on your face, what’s the max you could do?

Well, the most I could do right now is to ignore you and give none fuck about you. Simply as that.
isn’t it the same thing argo should be doing then? Hehe
Someone clearly skipped you in the line where common sense was being given.



Only reason AV isn't official is because of AV itself. No further discussion is needed.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Antonio. on July 31, 2020, 11:31:17 am
Status clans are stupid anyway. They were mostly used by people to be more likely appointed to power positions in the community.


Finally someone didn't sleep on this.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Mr. Goobii on July 31, 2020, 12:01:49 pm
Yes, there is a lot of rumours going on here. AV first started as Almightly Veterans and once they got official on Argonath, they changed their name to Argonath Veterans basically. So the AV has not always been named "Argonath".

Second, they moved to another server and changed their name back to Almightly Veterans and overall shitstormed on Argonath and therefor got their official status revoked from the community and that's fair. If a clan does shit on the community, it's better to ban the clan from the community and move along without them.
But then a g a i n, not only did AV do that. If I shitstorm about you on your face, what’s the max you could do?

Well, the most I could do right now is to ignore you and give none fuck about you. Simply as that.
isn’t it the same thing argo should be doing then? Hehe

That's preciesly what HQ/WE they have done. AV did this themselves, not anyone else. We ignored them and didn't give a fuck about them.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Sawyer on September 14, 2020, 10:57:45 pm
Mate, so did TCL, and so did WS.
Neither TCL nor WS encouraged their own members to stop playing on Argonath. They simply respected their members along with their choices and that is all.

Status clans are stupid anyway. They were mostly used by people to be more likely appointed to power positions in the community.
I highly doubt that the people close to me use tags to seek for power. I feel like you never gave people with tags a chance to prove you otherwise.

Clans have no place in a roleplay community.
How exactly an in-game tag prevents you from roleplaying?




It ain't right. And you know it.
And yes. AV belongs to Argonath. It indeed ain't right.
Sadly it has fallen into the wrong hands for whatever reason. I assume veterans of the clan have a right to take control of the whole situation with a little help of SAMP's management. I know for a fact certain people that would love to be given a chance to lead the clan but sadly they all came up short due to some personal beliefs of a certain leader. It's actually sad and very irritating.. even for an outsider.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Stivi on September 16, 2020, 10:24:29 am
We ignored them and didn't give a fuck about them.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Huntsman on September 20, 2020, 06:48:29 pm
Status clans are stupid anyway. They were mostly used by people to be more likely appointed to power positions in the community.
I highly doubt that the people close to me use tags to seek for power. I feel like you never gave people with tags a chance to prove you otherwise.

I wouldn't claim that all of them joined these clans with that intention. However, it was clear to everyone that being a part of [Rstar], or [WS], or other of the status clans was nearly essential to get any position of power in ARPD, ARFD, or administrative branches in SAMP.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Norrage on September 20, 2020, 07:58:25 pm
I wouldn't claim that all of them joined these clans with that intention. However, it was clear to everyone that being a part of [Rstar], or [WS], or other of the status clans was nearly essential to get any position of power in ARPD, ARFD, or administrative branches in SAMP.

Early days yes, current days no.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Gird3r on October 07, 2020, 08:24:46 pm
Hey there Gird3r <3
Hi.


I wouldn't claim that all of them joined these clans with that intention. However, it was clear to everyone that being a part of [Rstar], or [WS], or other of the status clans was nearly essential to get any position of power in ARPD, ARFD, or administrative branches in SAMP.

You forgot to mention TeaM.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Huntsman on October 09, 2020, 02:13:39 pm

I wouldn't claim that all of them joined these clans with that intention. However, it was clear to everyone that being a part of [Rstar], or [WS], or other of the status clans was nearly essential to get any position of power in ARPD, ARFD, or administrative branches in SAMP.

You forgot to mention TeaM.

As well as _Collin, as well as .Cipone, etc etc :).
Yes, I was once part of Cipone too. :(

I wouldn't claim that all of them joined these clans with that intention. However, it was clear to everyone that being a part of [Rstar], or [WS], or other of the status clans was nearly essential to get any position of power in ARPD, ARFD, or administrative branches in SAMP.

Early days yes, current days no.

Hence past tense.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Sawyer on October 09, 2020, 08:39:17 pm
I never felt that somebody from either Collin, Cipone or any other status clan/group for that matter joined said groups for the sake of having a bigger chance in achieving something greater in this server. Most probably were already a part of a legal aspect of duty or any other legal firm; hence closer to said groups, even unwillingly so. Nobody in the right mind would think that joining a clan by itself is a winning ticket in the raffle.

 I've seen shitloads of people and even close friends having an ultimate goal by joining a real status clan like [R*] but that's a different conversation.

My overall experience with clans/groups in this community tells me that the ones real desperate for statuses or any form of power are easily recognized and almost always end up never having an actual friend in this server.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: Omri on October 10, 2020, 07:36:22 am
Oh god the memories when talking about AV, they sure did belong in this community and I remember them from day 1 with different leadership. Years has passed, lots of different shit has been going on but if I do remember correctly, all R* members was given the posibility to do some administrative work within the community. I did lots of different things in my stay within R*, I guess only a small part of this community remember those days hehe.

Good to see you though Gird3r.
Have a good one folks.
Title: Re: Why isn't =AV= up there in official clans? >:(
Post by: AK47 on October 10, 2020, 02:00:17 pm
I miss Janek  :janek:
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