Yo wtf I lost my house 😡i lost 3 houses and a lot of cash
RS4 > RS5 re-enactment.Quite the opposite if you see what's going on the server right now. And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics? The negative responses are only coming from those who are nolifing mudoo or those that pop once every month to see what properties to own which is a positive thing for us.
What is this supposed to achieve?
Have you even considered consulting the players to see if this is what they want, or is this another lonewolf move?
This isn't exactly generating positive response, in case you didn't notice.
First of all, you didn't even took a vote with the players of the game if they really wanted this to happen, but you just acted on you'r own and did it. Secondly, as you say, fuck the vote of player, but at least notify us 2 days before that you are going to reset, I lost a lot of cost stuff, that I worked my ass. Lost a huge laboratory of crafting tables, almost 300. It costs almost one million to buy the property and I don't have the money to buy it and take what's mine back. For me, and for the most part of the players "I think", this was an unwise move. I don't know what you guys were thinking about this, but I am really surprised. Best of wishes and I hope the server revives with you'r brilliant ideas.You have lost a bizz before in santa maria beach due to inactivity and I haven't seen you complaining about it back then so why are you complaining now? There were clues already here http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=129271.0 and http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=129275.0
And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics?
This just proves to everyone that most of the players are here to just "moan and complain." All inactive players woke up now to blame the reset move while everyone of them were not even there to help in anything. You wanna say "There was nothign to help with, there were no players in-game to play with" Then you can get this answer "There was Fort Carson Project, you could've helped it with ideas, with your game activity if you really care. There were few players In-game, if you really care, you would join even if they were just 5.
You can't argue that when no one put any input on previous topics. It's a sad fact.And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics?
How is making assumptions about the playerbase going to help?
Whether you're right or not, you don't know this for sure, and you're just outright making an assumption.
There was Fort Carson Project
There was Fort Carson Project
There still is, the core group haven't given up yet.
is this another lonewolf move?I have nothing to do with it
I lost that bizz on purpose, and just a few know the reasons already. I wanted to lose it, myself, so yeah. And these videos? Come on, what I understand from them is that argonath were attacked again, as many times.First of all, you didn't even took a vote with the players of the game if they really wanted this to happen, but you just acted on you'r own and did it. Secondly, as you say, fuck the vote of player, but at least notify us 2 days before that you are going to reset, I lost a lot of cost stuff, that I worked my ass. Lost a huge laboratory of crafting tables, almost 300. It costs almost one million to buy the property and I don't have the money to buy it and take what's mine back. For me, and for the most part of the players "I think", this was an unwise move. I don't know what you guys were thinking about this, but I am really surprised. Best of wishes and I hope the server revives with you'r brilliant ideas.You have lost a bizz before in santa maria beach due to inactivity and I haven't seen you complaining about it back then so why are you complaining now? There were clues already here http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=129271.0 and http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=129275.0
Some understood that it was coming and some didn't and some were too inactive to notice.
Big brain move right there! :lol:
Big brain move right there! :lol:
Big brain move right there! :lol:
What you expected from iKhmTheCow? :lol:
Where is The Problem what you all have? As I said yesterday, this was one of the best decisions the Server HQ could make. I already thought yesterday that former players who literally give a shit on the server get upset just because suddenly their money and their houses are gone. But where is the problem? You don't find it necessary to support the server or at least to play on the server so you don't should complain about it.
In the meantime, while one Part of playes really tried to stay on the server, shared suggestions and animated the server, while The other Part of Players are there those who give a shit about Argonath and still complain about losing money? Money that doesn't help them anyway because they can't get their ass up and revive the server?
Honestly, that is fucking ass-like (Sorry but that's The truth!)
Just for your information, it not only affected you, but everyone. And only you who give a shit on Argonath are complaining now? Pooh!
But now to get something factual:
What does this step bring? I will explain it to you.
Every player should have the same chance of building a life on Argonath. For my part, I've been doing this since 2014. I admit I was sometimes more active and sometimes less. But I have never forgotten one thing, namely what potential Argonath actually has if all players pull in the same direction. This is your chance to improve / change something, so use it too.
In short, it's not about treading on your tail, it's about bringing new players to Argonath, giving them the chance to build a life for themselves. You still have an advantage, namely your vehicles and items. If it were up to me, I would have reset it all.
You may or may not hate me for my contribution, I don't really care either, because I am 100 percent behind Argonath SAMP and its staff members.
The server management, especially Kjones, Khm and so on are now pulling their asses off, so appreciate that too. The entire SAMP administrator team is doing a really incredible good job and at this point a hearty thanks to you!You are simply the best!
I wish you a pleasant day and remain,
Olivia Benson
This is your number one mistake. Stop caring who nolives in Mudoo and care about your own server, because most of the people that spend their time in Mudoo, used to do it for Argonath. What changed? Bold decisions like this one made the players leave. "Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.RS4 > RS5 re-enactment.Quite the opposite if you see what's going on the server right now. And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics? The negative responses are only coming from those who are nolifing mudoo or those that pop once every month to see what properties to own which is a positive thing for us.
What is this supposed to achieve?
Have you even considered consulting the players to see if this is what they want, or is this another lonewolf move?
This isn't exactly generating positive response, in case you didn't notice.
This is your number one mistake. Stop caring who nolives in Mudoo and care about your own server, because most of the people that spend their time in Mudoo, used to do it for Argonath. What changed? Bold decisions like this one made the players leave. "Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.RS4 > RS5 re-enactment.Quite the opposite if you see what's going on the server right now. And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics? The negative responses are only coming from those who are nolifing mudoo or those that pop once every month to see what properties to own which is a positive thing for us.
What is this supposed to achieve?
Have you even considered consulting the players to see if this is what they want, or is this another lonewolf move?
This isn't exactly generating positive response, in case you didn't notice.
Sorry not sorry. I'll probably get a forum ban as well, cuz people like you do whatever they want until it's all ruined.
You can't argue that when no one put any input on previous topics. It's a sad fact.And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics?
How is making assumptions about the playerbase going to help?
Whether you're right or not, you don't know this for sure, and you're just outright making an assumption.
This just proves to everyone that most of the players are here to just "moan and complain." All inactive players woke up now to blame the reset move while everyone of them were not even there to help in anything. You wanna say "There was nothign to help with, there were no players in-game to play with" Then you can get this answer "There was Fort Carson Project, you could've helped it with ideas, with your game activity if you really care. There were few players In-game, if you really care, you would join even if they were just 5.
You wanna say "There was nothign to help with, there were no players in-game to play with"
I’m not sure about the reset, I hope it is effective but I doubt it.
"Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.
This is your number one mistake. Stop caring who nolives in Mudoo and care about your own server, because most of the people that spend their time in Mudoo, used to do it for Argonath. What changed? Bold decisions like this one made the players leave. "Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.RS4 > RS5 re-enactment.Quite the opposite if you see what's going on the server right now. And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics? The negative responses are only coming from those who are nolifing mudoo or those that pop once every month to see what properties to own which is a positive thing for us.
What is this supposed to achieve?
Have you even considered consulting the players to see if this is what they want, or is this another lonewolf move?
This isn't exactly generating positive response, in case you didn't notice.
Sorry not sorry. I'll probably get a forum ban as well, cuz people like you do whatever they want until it's all ruined.
Why should Argonath give a fuck about what Mudoo regulars who already moved there and have not been active here for months if not years? This update is for the players who still stick around, unfortunately we have the side effect of people returning to moan. People whose departure I celebrate more than any of the recent changes to Argo SAMP.
Clearly the action that was made speaks for itself that no one cares about them. Consulting someone who's been ban evading a lot lately and was originally banned for advertising a rival community is the least of my concerns. Sorry not sorry btw 'cuz people like you' always fail to read between the lines.This is your number one mistake. Stop caring who nolives in Mudoo and care about your own server, because most of the people that spend their time in Mudoo, used to do it for Argonath. What changed? Bold decisions like this one made the players leave. "Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.RS4 > RS5 re-enactment.Quite the opposite if you see what's going on the server right now. And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics? The negative responses are only coming from those who are nolifing mudoo or those that pop once every month to see what properties to own which is a positive thing for us.
What is this supposed to achieve?
Have you even considered consulting the players to see if this is what they want, or is this another lonewolf move?
This isn't exactly generating positive response, in case you didn't notice.
Sorry not sorry. I'll probably get a forum ban as well, cuz people like you do whatever they want until it's all ruined.
Easy human psychology; give a person everything and provide him every luxury that he wants and needs, he will find a reason to argue and complain and say that life is too boring and easy. The sever won't stop progressing because of some people that won't bother to come back and are just here to whine as they have nothing to do with their lives and it certainly won't lose any players that do not exist in the present time and won't exist in the future. Just because they existed in the past it doesn't give them the right to direct the server's future if they aren't here anymore and moved on. A fact that you certainly missed, some people were consulted but they were actual players not ex-players. ;)You can't argue that when no one put any input on previous topics. It's a sad fact.And why consult the players if they are not going to add anything like they haven't before in previous recent topics?
How is making assumptions about the playerbase going to help?
Whether you're right or not, you don't know this for sure, and you're just outright making an assumption.
There's always gonna be at least one person with some input, but there was no opportunity for them. Instead, any opportunity for input whatsoever was disregarded and apparently your assumption is fact, simply because you said so?
How people acted on previous topics isn't constituting how they'll act on a new one. Also, if this really is the case, why not step up above it all, and take whatever hits people throw, no matter what, as long as you stay true to a good Argonath spirit, as a community?
I've made an arguable point, and judging that something you've stated is fact by using the past as a basis for it is hardly a case that's going to stand up as fact.This just proves to everyone that most of the players are here to just "moan and complain." All inactive players woke up now to blame the reset move while everyone of them were not even there to help in anything. You wanna say "There was nothign to help with, there were no players in-game to play with" Then you can get this answer "There was Fort Carson Project, you could've helped it with ideas, with your game activity if you really care. There were few players In-game, if you really care, you would join even if they were just 5.
Perhaps if the players weren't given a reason to complain, they wouldn't. It proves nothing, except the fact that players simply don't like what happened, and even more so the fact they weren't asked for their opinions or what they wanted. It's hard to "really care" if the server isn't what the players want it to be.You wanna say "There was nothign to help with, there were no players in-game to play with"
With the occurrences here, its rather obvious why. What would possibly motivate people to continue playing, if their desires and interests for the server are being disregarded? Has anyone been asked about what they want? Not from what I'm seeing here.
I have the exact same words as Norrage:I’m not sure about the reset, I hope it is effective but I doubt it.
Also, what the hell? Carter RPG is not relevant in any way to Argonath."Why consulting players?" - because of the players this community existed for 12 years (yeah, I don't count the last 2 ) and because of people who think they own everything the server will never be the same. Ever.
Bogomil's quote applies to everyone who's ever played here, and without them, there is no Argonath. You didn't consult any of the players and ask what they want, instead, now there's an argument because you went ahead and did something that the players, the people who would comprise this community, didn't want.
Rather clear when I put it in this manner.
People are unbanned as well? 🙄No. You post an unban request for that. not a moderator application..
if you're that desperate because you lost your beloved properties and cash find yourself a new game
i lost 3 houses and a lot of cash
their hard work, dedicated time into earning cash
I lost a lot of cost stuff, that I worked my ass.
To the people who are crying over this change because "pLaYeRs Of ThE pAsT", that's not who this change was for clearly.
This change was for the people who are playing actively (regardless of their number). And if the change brings back some people of the past, good. If not, nothing was lost, they didn't play anyway.
New players needs a guidance, guidance needs veterans, veterans needs to be satisfied
It is a vicious circle, I hope you get the meaning.
New players needs a guidance, guidance needs veterans, veterans needs to be satisfied
It is a vicious circle, I hope you get the meaning.
As a veteran, you should know. That everyone are equal to eachother on any server we have (vc,samp or rage). No one needs to satisfy YOU, just because YOU are here longer than others.
As a veteran, you should know. That everyone are equal to eachother on any server we have (vc,samp or rage). No one needs to satisfy YOU, just because YOU are here longer than others.Yeah sorry, you're right. I can now clearly see how this change (like many others) was taken based on an equal decision and now I feel ashamed!
QuoteAs a veteran, you should know. That everyone are equal to eachother on any server we have (vc,samp or rage). No one needs to satisfy YOU, just because YOU are here longer than others.Yeah sorry, you're right. I can now clearly see how this change (like many others) was taken based on an equal decision and now I feel ashamed!
You should know better. As the only remaining member of 'the fellowship of the ring' crew, i thought you could be the only person here that could shine some light on this place.Nothing change. And if you dont like to be here...then hava a nice day (that's also a sarcasm)QuoteAs a veteran, you should know. That everyone are equal to eachother on any server we have (vc,samp or rage). No one needs to satisfy YOU, just because YOU are here longer than others.Yeah sorry, you're right. I can now clearly see how this change (like many others) was taken based on an equal decision and now I feel ashamed!
Your money is worthless if you don't use it, and same goes for properties.
For such attitude i can show you the doors by myself.I know that you have a gigantic hole in your career hence why i thought you could know better since you haven't seen it all, but i was wrong.
You care only for virtual goods instead good fun. You dont like the changes? Leave. As far as i see majority in this server have nothing against the changes.
For the record...i resigned in 2010 from HQ
I know that you have a gigantic hole in your career hence why i thought you could know better since you haven't seen it all, but i was wrong.
As for my attitude, very appropriate for people like you. Why?
Because you dont come to act smart and then when someone destroys you in a discussion/argument, you pull the "Who cares, door's that way" card. You still didn't apologize to the lad for that.
People left, dont worry, they are not blind and can see right through Argonath's 'equality'.
The reason im kinda picking on you is because i think you could be talked into some common sense. You don't see it, but most of the people you are working with (gtav included) are trash people pulling trash moves. I really thought you're not like them.
As far as i see majority in this server have nothing against the changes.The majority? Of what? Of 3 people? Kjones, Tom Adams and some paki leftovers? Don't you see the server died already? Don't make a meme out of yourselves.
Clearly the action that was made speaks for itself that no one cares about them. Consulting someone who's been ban evading a lot lately and was originally banned for advertising a rival community is the least of my concerns. Sorry not sorry btw 'cuz people like you' always fail to read between the lines.I've been trying to have a conversation, but your retarded puppets decided to ban me again, you realize if I wanted not getting caught and actually play there I'd do it? But who enjoys playing on empty servers? Even hackers are like "meh, this shit boring". And stop claiming Mudoo is your rival community, in order to be rival you need something to offer, unfortunately for you everything good this server had disappeared when you came in power. Now I wish you good luck with your change and hopefully we see Argonath the way it was, but with new players.
I also have a total login time of 10minutes over the past 6 years. Point being, i couldn't care less if you restarted it 50 more times.
I just want to show you how idiotic this is. How it's just a flex onto the players. How this all went down the drain, but people are still repeating the same mistakes that led to this anyways.
The majority? Of what? Of 3 people? Kjones, Tom Adams and some paki leftovers? Don't you see the server died already? Don't make a meme out of yourselves.
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Old, but gold.
People in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones. :)
Is that Argonath's most handsome man talking?I also have a total login time of 10minutes over the past 6 years. Point being, i couldn't care less if you restarted it 50 more times.How about you go back to your tunnel and crawl out of Argonath once and for all? You were less annoying in the unban section. Seriously, some of the teenage pakis In Game are times more likable than you.
I just want to show you how idiotic this is. How it's just a flex onto the players. How this all went down the drain, but people are still repeating the same mistakes that led to this anyways.
If you still think that you mean something in Argonath and your opinion matters - go check yourself.
You have fallen really low. First of all no one from you so called "veterans" can tell any of us who left Argonath for our own good to stay away from it. It's not your business in first place.
Second of all if we bring facts to the table, you (Greasy) tried to recruit me in LSRP many times, claiming Argonath is shit. When I stayed loyal. You are one of the people who whined all along and you're one of the people who are responsible for the situation Argonath is right now in with your constant intrigues starting from Kyle, Andeey and Khm, going through Bas and now ending with me.
Your selfesteem does not respond to the reality, Greasy. I never bragged about mapping or anything, I never wanted credit. You used to tempban people for the smallest reasons, claiming "I'm only here to make sure the rules are being followed". Well here's a hint for you, in no way you're administration material. Same as Khm. Both of you say "We're looking for Argonath's well being" until someone tells you that you are the problem, then you decide to ignore/target him.
Fuck off with this "you should've been long gone". This community does not belong to you to act like owner.
Clowns.
Is that Argonath's most handsome man talking?
Your sole purpose on RS4 was to drive a bike around three local bars and "RP" a bike gang. Your impact on the server and on the players is exactly zero.
Maybe when the big boys left, you finally found your purpose here in showing teenage pakis on a 5-player server how to drive a bike between two pubs in Bone County? :lol:
Those people who were trash at actually playing the game, like you, would always just go around typing words on their screen, either in game or on the forums cuz they didnt know better.
My opinion will always matter, cuz as someone once said, im fucking Acika Luciano, and you? You're noone.
When the cat's away, the mice will play.
It's fair to say im the best mechanical player on Argonath.I'm afraid that still is [Rstar]Razor. Any day of the week.
cuz as someone once said, im fucking Acika Luciano, and you? You're noone.Your group in its prime had over 30 members with the recruiting standard being how quickly someone responds to an AnA call. 80% of the main faces of the group were repeatedly banned for rulebreaking. I can name 10 or even more former members of your group that had different accounts while being part of another rival group and actively ratting for the highest bidder. Your group's maximum RPing potential has always been weedfields, interviews and fests.
I’m just amazed on how much energy you guys waste on a damn game.
That makes it even worse. I remember Ancelottis that actually had some impact. The fact that i remember you for getting drunk in a pub instead of your massive accomplishments with Ancelotti must be wrong then. Or maybe it was of a smaller scale among your three best friends? To each their own i guess, not everyone can compare with the big fish.Is that Argonath's most handsome man talking?
Your sole purpose on RS4 was to drive a bike around three local bars and "RP" a bike gang. Your impact on the server and on the players is exactly zero.
Maybe when the big boys left, you finally found your purpose here in showing teenage pakis on a 5-player server how to drive a bike between two pubs in Bone County? :lol:
Those people who were trash at actually playing the game, like you, would always just go around typing words on their screen, either in game or on the forums cuz they didnt know better.
My opinion will always matter, cuz as someone once said, im fucking Acika Luciano, and you? You're noone.
When the cat's away, the mice will play.
My sole purpose on RS4 was to roleplay. If you had any idea what you were talking about, you'd know that for the majority of my time in RS4 I was actually a member of Ancelotti, not AoD. I am not to judge my own impact, but I am yet to receive anything but praise from people for my actions in the past. But I do understand why you have no idea, because I tried to keep away from you and your group. How come Luciano were the only group we have never roleplayed with? How come you never made official or even recognized? I've done my fair share and continue doing what I think is right.
Yeah, you're fucking Acika Luciano. Argonath's El Chapo. Don of Luciano, leading the powerful family from his almighty home in the Unban Section.
Fuck off already and quit jerking off to my pictures homie. They seem to be the only thing you keep bringing up every time.
Hi bud,
Sorry I didn't listen to you enough when I was community leader. There was many things that you said that I listened to but didn't take enough action on and I'm sorry for that. You tend to think that when you're in a position of power and other admins and such are also selected that they work for the community not against. Yet I failed to realise the corruption that exists is more than I knew. My apologises. And I thank you for the lessons.
I hope you're well in life :)
<3 Dell.
I accidentally gave 10k away through /sponsor, can I get it back?Nope. There's a warning saying you must type the command twice to confirm that you wanna do a payday.
I accidentally gave 10k away through /sponsor, can I get it back?Nope. There's a warning saying you must type the command twice to confirm that you wanna do a payday.
How is this a server reset if vehicles are kept ... and if for a fact people used their "before money" to buy expensnsive cars, only to sell them after the wipe?We took it from a roleplay point of view, government can render your money useless if if they wish (many governments in real life did that) and the same goes for bank accounts however government cannot force you to "sell" the vehicles that you already have on you especially after you have proofs that you bought them with "vehicle licenses" so it would be illogical if the government took your cars as well as the items you have.
So you did an unfair and incomplete reset because ... roleplay ... Why half ass it? Anyway, I hope it makes a difference, I will live off the rest of my days as a pennyless hobo anyway.It is indeed incomplete but it isn't unfair, the people that have vehicles won't be millionaires in a day or two by selling their vehicles and it was thought as a way for some people to go ahead a bit so they help those that are slow in making money. Thanks for your input however.
Just a quick question, if the previous headquarter sneaked items and money to certain places/people ... what garauates me it won't do it again?, Why would I spend time into developing a character in this server knowing that all that effort will probably sooner or later be taken away from me just like it did before, twice at this point? If I had that slightest wish to return and play in this server before, not it's zero, at least for me.They can take away your belongings, but they can never take away your character because its pretty much the ONLY thing in the server that is truly yours.
They can take away your belongings, but they can never take away your character because its pretty much the ONLY thing in the server that is truly yours.
This reset is like the fall of Soviet Union, it will be caos
This reset is like the fall of Soviet Union, it will be caos
I suggest rolling back to RS4 for a couple of weeks and see how many people it attracts back. If activity rises, then perhaps improvements could be made on RS4, or RS5 be more RS4'ish. This looks like a much more practical solution than just wiping people's slates clean again. This was a major player in why player counts decreased after the RS5 reset. I don't see how this would be a wise decision to do the same thing again.Thing is, they brought back RS5 for a couple of days last year for Argonath's anniversary, had many bugs.
I suggest rolling back to RS4 for a couple of weeks and see how many people it attracts back. If activity rises, then perhaps improvements could be made on RS4, or RS5 be more RS4'ish. This looks like a much more practical solution than just wiping people's slates clean again. This was a major player in why player counts decreased after the RS5 reset. I don't see how this would be a wise decision to do the same thing again.Thing is, they brought back RS5 for a couple of days last year for Argonath's anniversary, had many bugs.
I suggest rolling back to RS4 for a couple of weeks and see how many people it attracts back. If activity rises, then perhaps improvements could be made on RS4, or RS5 be more RS4'ish. This looks like a much more practical solution than just wiping people's slates clean again. This was a major player in why player counts decreased after the RS5 reset. I don't see how this would be a wise decision to do the same thing again.Happened and no one joined.