Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Gandalf on February 29, 2008, 11:37:39 pm
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When we opened the server there was a clear rule, that as far as I know still is valid.
'No swearing, no flaming".
As SA:MP has a lot of characters that would use slang and some harsh language, the developers decided that it would be allowed to use slang.
On other servers we enforce the rules very strict with direct banana or harder actions.
SA:MP seems to go in a different direction, where players feel that swearing and complete flame is allowed 'when it is done in RP character'.
This is not acceptable. Swearing and flaming are not allowed period.
It does not matter if you are a gangster, a rapper or a criminal, you can use slang without having to resort to swearing and flaming.
Feel that your roleplay is so good it allows you more freedom ? Do so at your own risk.
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Maybe if you put in the server rules, they will understand.
- NO CHEATS, NO MODS, NO HACKS;
- NO HELIKILLING, NO CARKILLING, NO RAMMING, NO CARJACKING;
- NO GLITCHES, that give you advantage over other players (attacking from glitched areas);
- NO PAUSING WHEN COMBAT, WANTED;- NO REVENGE KILLING;
- NO FLOOD THE CHAT WINDOW;
- NO SPAM (advertisment of other servers and sites, that do not belong to Argonath RPG server is NOT allowed);
- NO FLAME/INSULT players. If you came to play on our server - respect it and our players;
- NO ATTACKING WITHOUT A PROPER REASON;
- NO ESCAPING WHEN SURRENDERED (follow cops to the police department);
- FOR ONE CHASE CRIMINAL CAN CHANGE ONLY 5 CARS. Fight or surrender;
- POLICE VEHICLES ARE ONLY FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS;
- MILITARY VEHICLES ARE ONLY FOR ARGONATH ARMY TEAM;
- NO MONEY CHEATING (punishment: permban);
- IMPOSTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED (no any copying other players' nicks or regular clans' tags);
- SLANG IS ALLOWED ONLY AS A PART OF ROLEPLAY (swearing as personal attack on players will be punished);
- NICKS WITH THE UNREADABLE LETTERS ARE NOT ALLOWED (Please refrain from using <>?/|\{}[]()-=+/*- due to the server's RPG script commands)
Please correct me if i am wrong.
Maybe i am blind, maybe not, but where does it say in those rules
Swearing and flaming are not allowed period.
I dont see that, but i see this
SLANG IS ALLOWED ONLY AS A PART OF ROLEPLAY
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It's not our fault you dont define any rules....
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As a matter of fact, it dosent say Anything about swearing in roleplay is not allowed...
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Yeah this is completely screwed every gang over Gandalf, why don't you and RON ditch admin shit for a day, change your names to something new, DO NOT tell anyone who you are, and RP from our point of view?
THEN MAYBE, JUST MAYBE You will understand where WE ( The players who occupy your server ) are coming from.
It's all good and well sitting back and saying, oh yes slang is allowed. but swearing and IC flame are not. Try rping as a gangster. See how far you go without calling someone, IC, a nigga, or saying stuff like, ey prick we gon rob ya 'bltch' ass. IC
This is ridiculous.
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Actually I did.
And did not have any trouble with being abused by admins, cops or other players.
But then I do not swear....
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Actually I did.
And did not have any trouble with being abused by admins, cops or other players.
But then I do not swear....
Heh, as Ronnel or gandalf, ofc you wont have no trouble and with you '1337' /admins thing, nobody will bother.
Besides, there is absolutely NO WAY you can monitor the /l chat 24/7
So this rule about ic swearing and shit, it's just a bit stupid, why make a rule you cant enforce?
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Well Dimi, it can be enforced, but i just see no point in the rule about no swearing.
This is Argonath RPG - with Roleplay
I mean, its Roleplay, but we cant Play the roles of our characters?
EDIT: And i understand about taking it overboard, but i dont...
I know when i go too far
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Heh, as Ronnel or gandalf, ofc you wont have no trouble and with you '1337' /admins thing, nobody will bother.
Besides, there is absolutely NO WAY you can monitor the /l chat 24/7
So this rule about ic swearing and shit, it's just a bit stupid, why make a rule you cant enforce?
Oh yes they can :devroll:
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Out of interest, and without trying to be rude Dimi.... who are you?
btw, they can check the logs. then youre in the pooper haha
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I think part of the problem could be, that people flame in local and then just use "it was RP" to get away with it.
Ye?
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I think part of the problem could be, that people flame in local and then just use "it was RP" to get away with it.
Ye?
I think you are right, i think many people do that actually to get away
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SLANG IS ALLOWED ONLY AS A PART OF ROLEPLAY (swearing as personal attack on players will be punished)
Slang is not the same as swearing and flaming IMO :devroll:
And if you really have to swear for RP (but for me, you DON'T have to, never), don't aim it to other people directly or at least censor it out,
ex. Get the f*** out of my hood, m*****f****r.
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Correct Grzesiek...
Slang does not mean you can start flame others and call it "Ima in character, wasup"...
The situation on server just shows that players and some admins want to avoid the rules thinking out the new "ways of roleplay"...
I do not know why they cannot live without "hey motherf**ker wanna anal sex, prick?"... And I have no idea why they think it will increase the friendly atmosphere on server...
Besides it people who are voting for such rules - all noticed in flaming and offensive attitude to others... Troublemakers as it is...
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I only swear when I am seriously pissed or am in an RP situation and say something like 'Yo homie, where's that motherfucker gone'. I don't know many gangsters that don't swear, I keep it to a minimum but it's rare I swear in main chat.
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Heh, as Ronnel or gandalf, ofc you wont have no trouble and with you '1337' /admins thing, nobody will bother.
Besides, there is absolutely NO WAY you can monitor the /l chat 24/7
So this rule about ic swearing and shit, it's just a bit stupid, why make a rule you cant enforce?
I play without rights but admins could find out who I am.
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Yeah this is completely screwed every gang over Gandalf, why don't you and RON ditch admin shit for a day, change your names to something new, DO NOT tell anyone who you are, and RP from our point of view?
THEN MAYBE, JUST MAYBE You will understand where WE ( The players who occupy your server ) are coming from.
It's all good and well sitting back and saying, oh yes slang is allowed. but swearing and IC flame are not. Try rping as a gangster. See how far you go without calling someone, IC, a nigga, or saying stuff like, ey prick we gon rob ya 'bltch' ass. IC
This is ridiculous.
I hate it,when im RPing a cop and someone just comes and says "Stupid Mothe***c*ing lazy bi**ha*s donut cop".That is NOT role play.That is pure flaming.I dont know if you see a officer passing you and you say that to him (IRL) what would happen ? He will just let you go away ? Meh,i always suspect that kind of people and after that i hear "Abuser! Abuser! OMG! Abuser! Spamer! Noob cop!" and so on.Most of the people do that.
That is certainly headed to Dimitrov,cos he is doing that every time with his "MS-13" gang.Every single time when the pass next to me i hear something like "mothe**uc*er" or something ... This is stupid and it should end ... The new players are learning.They are trying to learn from the more "skilled" RPers.Learn what ? Flaming ? Deathmatching ? The server cant recieve more skilled RPers, if the regular ones and acting like its a DM server...
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Eh You stupid motherf**king donut sucker look what you did (oeps should i censor that?)..ok guilty as charged those words I have used probably not on you but wel maybe I am a bit free in my expressions I also thought that was alowed ..GTA is full of f**k and motherf**ks anyway(listen to the radio) I was never told all swearing is forbidden seriously .. but then again I almost never use those terms the thing is though its hard to play 'the tough guy"if you are limited to "oh officer that was very naughty of you please mind the paint on my car "
ok i did not censor that myself (i mean the ** are put in by the forum) ...I am really oposed to all censorship ..but then I dont make the rules I enforce them but seriously is this needed ? But I also respect others and some people dont so the freedom of speech may not be for everyone here ..
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We have made it clear from the beginning that in SA:MP there is more allowed.
But if you use those words to a cop, and the reaction of the cop is to beat some respect in to you or write you a ticket, people start to claim abusive cops and DMing...
So it is one or the other. Either you accept the RP with slang and consequences of your actions, or you understand that a new player will not understand why someone call him a m*therf**ker and he is not allowed to type /p f**k you back...
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I agree with Gandalf, it's very common to see people telling cops : Go to hell pigs ! ... Well ... not as polite as this, they call cops : piece of .... and such so I hope that swearing will be removed. If you want to swear, go on msn, talk with one of your friend as swear as much as you want. But in no way do it say : be polite ... I mean ... You don't have to rob someone and say : Sir, would you please give me your money or I will be forced to inflict you a severe beating.
You can say : Man, gimme your wallet or i smash your head with bullets, understood ?
Another thing : people who do /p /p .login thatdudeisa**** ... It's almost not suspicious ... I mean. ... you have to type the following on your keyboard : t/p .login ... not suspicious at all ... And anyways who use this as a password ? Seriously ? no one, be honest, maybe 1% of people do !
So I totaly agree to keep slang but remove flamings and swearing. Some people play a ganster and it look like 1 word, 3 swearwords, 1 word, 3 swearwords ... Very fun ...
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The thing is also that we do not suppose to sit all days read logs and figure out what was "roleplay flame" and what was not...
So it was from the beginning cleared - if player/players do not like your "style" - drop it...
After undercover playing on server it was also figured that cops react on those who provoke them... If you do not act towards cops like "you are mothefucking cops, go fuck off from our territory" or something like in such style - cops do not act against you as well... Some even asked to put pistol in a pocket and do not run with weapons on the streets :)...
But if you start flame cops "ima gangsta", and act in any provoking style towards players (and cops as well), people will react the same way...
Cop for teaching the swearer will smash him with nightstick, "gangsta" will answer, cop will suspect him - here we come - the same swearer (the gangstah who actually provoked cops) will start complain and report to admins "abusers cops"...
It brought the result of investigation: those who are looking for troubles - get it, those who play with respect - will not meet abusers cops...
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new rule suck :( beacause i am always talking in slang flame is almost in every sentence when i am in Sa-mp or in another game + IRL i talk with my parents in flame too xD
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the "new" rule is good.
samp shouldnt just be about "f**k this and f**k that". It should be fun for everyone.
some of us dont like listening to swear words all day
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a bit slang flame makes it fun atleast for me i like begin called d*ck f*cker and stuff it makes me laugh xD
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No a "bit slang flames" made a server as it is now...
From all servers we have - SAMP is the one server where we allowed more freedom in slang... And its the main server of unfriendly roleplay, fighting each other, provokes and flame...
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No a "bit slang flames" made a server as it is now...
From all servers we have - SAMP is the one server where we allowed more freedom in slang... And its the main server of unfriendly roleplay, fighting each other, provokes and flame...
Give them your finger and they'll eat your arm :devroll:
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Yeah this is completely screwed every gang over Gandalf
No?... GSF are very strict on this rule, we do not allow members who run around screaming: "f**k you, f**cking piece of s**t c**k sucker! I'll keeeeeel uuuuu!" Instead we try to keep a friendly atmosphere for all members and people around us.
Treat people as you wish to be treated yourself.
Maybe you should try doing the same?
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what if our comp does somthing wrong
I usually say
ASS!
Is that allowed?
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what if our comp does somthing wrong
I usually say
ASS!
Is that allowed?
Just say "Donkey!" instead :rofl:
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Humm...
So let me get this straight...
Not even in local chat we can swear, not even like 1 time per day?
Cos' I know that "crying on main chat" is stupid, even tho if the only 11 years old kid knows it and accidentaly does it (a.k.a. me xD).
Well I still like that rule, because I felt myself incredibly stupid when like 5 months ago i goed to LSPD and shouted "PIGS!" to cops. WTF?
But I would like if we could CENSOR the swearings.
Like this:
"What the **** do you want?"
Could be heck/hell/that big F word or something.
But that is you'r call. o_o