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Title: Bitrate and connection>>changed to Dj's general Discussion
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 02, 2008, 06:35:44 pm
I have noticed some of our Dj's are broadcasting in really low bitrates, now there is nothing wrong with that if you have a slow connection but for the guys that may have a better one please post your connection speed here and ill tell you what you can pull off

let me give mine as example I have (its the upload that is the factor here)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/254219313.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

With this I can pull off 128 bps mp3 and be ingame so people with this or more should atleast be able to transmit 96bps mp3 easily

It just sounds better for music, for only speech its not that big of an issue but music needs to sound clear

but its up to you just a tip

EDIT: seeing as this has become the DJs general discussion corner(we all talk about everything ) ill change it to that it seems there was a need for it
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Roadkill on April 02, 2008, 06:47:43 pm
I will upload at no more than 48kb/s. Good enough quality, remember this is not a pro radio station. ;)
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: The_Wolf on April 02, 2008, 06:56:38 pm
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/254229559.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
 
 It seems good, maybe I will apply for DJ next time  :D
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Dave on April 02, 2008, 07:05:06 pm
around 40kb/ps is good enough, we have LISTENERS with bad connections and major lag problems, it buffers for them if we go higher than 58kb/ps, as Watti will be able to backup.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Knoothead on April 02, 2008, 07:57:00 pm
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/254256655.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

thats mine with 24 mbits connection im a bit dissapointed.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 02, 2008, 08:39:03 pm
I will upload at no more than 48kb/s. Good enough quality, remember this is not a pro radio station. ;)
Wel I am never happy with the soundquality its just one of my things but ill use 128 as long as I dont hear people have problems receiving
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Zun_Callison on April 02, 2008, 08:47:05 pm
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/254280105.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Rofl , i got 24mbit/s and my UL speed is weak.. God #"!"#!¤..
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 02, 2008, 09:54:13 pm
I wonder why that is that some isp's make the upload so low ..probably so you take more expensive contract if you need to upload a lot I saw a few eastern european guys tests .they actually had nmore upload then download

Oh btw Zun I caught a few of your shows Good work ! keep it up  ;)

Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Watti on April 03, 2008, 08:29:26 am
around 40kb/ps is good enough, we have LISTENERS with bad connections and major lag problems, it buffers for them if we go higher than 58kb/ps, as Watti will be able to backup.
/me backs Up :D

ok now... i got it on .. i do belive... ahh... 64 Kb/s... :D.. Which is 64 Bytes per second... thus 6.4 KB/s

i can listen to 128 fine.. out game but 64 is max ingame
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on April 03, 2008, 02:51:17 pm
around 40kb/ps is good enough,
[...]
.. i do belive... ahh... 64 Kb/s... :D.. Which is 64 Bytes per second... thus 6.4 KB/s
[...]

b (small b) = bit, 1/8 of a byte
B (big b) = byte

ex. 1Mb/s = 128kB/s
     32kB/s = 256kb/s

and another thing, use a 'p' OR a '/', don't use both at the same time (@ Dave)

And about the bitrate, 64 is enough for a radio. 48 and lower are good only if you can compress the data with a good algorythm.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 03, 2008, 04:18:24 pm
you are telling me you dont hear difference between 128 and 64 or you dont mind it ?

I just made this topic for people who want more but though they could not get it not to tell you guys what to use thats up to you

but if I am not wrong Johannes uses 92 or something like that and nobody ever complained about it (atleast not on forum)

hmm it does increase my latency perhaps i shall try lower also
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Roadkill on April 03, 2008, 04:26:39 pm
I think most of us encode at around 40kb/s which is good enough for an ameteur radio station.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 03, 2008, 04:42:20 pm
Hmm I am a perfectionist when it comes to music SRY

thats why I am getting crazy I am playing now and i keep hearing distortion even on 128 .. like i am in the red . but I am not
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Rusty on April 03, 2008, 04:45:33 pm
Great show so far Iggy and it sounds perfect ;) i play mine at around 64-128kb/s depending if alot of people are buffering quite alot i'll put it down.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 03, 2008, 04:49:27 pm
yeah wel if i dont scare you all away with my Metal lol i like a lot of music so its not to hard for me to play something different

anyway time for some pizza ill be on later again so if someone wants to go on after the next guns and roses song i am off (not sweet child the next called nighttrain )
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on April 03, 2008, 04:52:27 pm
you are telling me you dont hear difference between 128 and 64 or you dont mind it ?

I mean that it depends on the compression algorithm... sometimes music is good in 48kB/s and sometimes it can break ears at 128kB/s.
But for an internet radio, 64kB/s is usually enough for me. Of course, higher is good too.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Paroxysm on April 03, 2008, 04:57:22 pm
Mine is rediciously low, especially for a DJ..but It's very expensive and very slow in Australia

Im paying $69.95 AUD for this connection!!  :devroll:
(Like alot of ISP's here)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/254630140.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Its stupid..

NOTE: This is called High Speed Broadband in Australia.. :roll:
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 03, 2008, 05:00:33 pm
some tips would be nice I really dont know what codec is better I have SAM 4 so maybe you could tell me what codec is best (i use the standard mp3 now)

Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 03, 2008, 05:02:16 pm
RUSTY lol you made a little mestake I hear you not the music (breathing swearing at your ..?sister?) you should check the mic settings :rofl:

Lol angry scotsman on air (he said fuck like 5 times already)

Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 03, 2008, 05:26:24 pm
Mine is rediciously low, especially for a DJ..but It's very expensive and very slow in Australia

Im paying $69.95 AUD for this connection!!  :devroll:
(Like alot of ISP's here)

(http://www.speedtest.net/result/254630140.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)

Its stupid..

NOTE: This is called High Speed Broadband in Australia.. :roll:
MY GOD the horror i have a special package with phone so its really expensive for dutch standard (like 45€ =77.50 AUD)but for like 15€(25,25aud) you have 20 mbit here
so yeah thats expensive
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Rusty on April 03, 2008, 05:37:13 pm
Yea i had it recording from my soundcard lol i was like wtf is happening.  Sorry if it caused any harm.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 03, 2008, 05:50:38 pm
Nah lol I can handle it. Anyway even if someone would have a problem (but who doesnt say F every now and then) its not your foult you thought nobody could hear you

I just thought it was funny  :lol: I tune in and I hear you saying FFS then something is Scotish ?(I guess ) So i made the angry scotsman remark ( I happen to think Scottish Gaelic sounds really cool when angry like south african and some tribal language I forgot the name off)  ;)
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2008, 06:32:03 pm
Lol Rusty.....annoyed at some ppl were we? :P

He was proably speaking English, but with slang in it..
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Rusty on April 05, 2008, 08:26:57 pm
I didn't even know till i hear myself speaking i was doing it my Sister kept being a bad guy (LMAO who changed it) and shouting in my ear.  Same with whem am talking on air i can hear myself anyone help me sort this problem out?
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 05, 2008, 09:21:42 pm
I didn't even know till i hear myself speaking i was doing it my Sister kept being a bad guy and shouting in my ear.  Same with whem am talking on air i can hear myself anyone help me sort this problem out?
I had the same eh but i always forget how i fix it I am thinking maybe it comes back but I am sure someone else knows its a common problem
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Rusty on April 05, 2008, 09:47:28 pm
I'll try looking through SAM documentation for a solution.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Roadkill on April 06, 2008, 12:30:36 am
My Radio Station - 48kb/s Stereo
Argonath Government Radio -  32kb/s Mono

It's only temporary for when I get a new connection in the future because at the moment my connection varies in upload speeds and download speeds so I am going to get ye old mother to have a look at getting a new ISP.

Any suggestions from people in the UK? I am thinking Virgin Media.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: PMP on April 06, 2008, 01:32:59 am
RUSTY lol you made a little mestake I hear you not the music (breathing swearing at your ..?sister?) you should check the mic settings :rofl:

Lol angry scotsman on air (he said f**k like 5 times already)


OMG, I can't believe I lost that... :cry:
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Rusty on April 06, 2008, 06:06:45 am
Roadkill, am using Virgin Media there quite good except the Cable Modems they give you are Crap (Mine Broke within 2 Months).  Get the 20MB Package though it costs only £10 a Month for 3 Months if you get Virgin Phone aswell overall good ISP.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Hess on April 06, 2008, 10:57:02 am
Parox, you have the same problem as me...
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Rusty on April 09, 2008, 05:29:35 pm
To Iggy Or Giac -

TupacSforza, said he doesn't want to Be a DJ Anymore due to the fact he has Problems and doesn't have any interest anymore, I told him to tell you guys about it but i guess he didn't so am just letting you know.  So i think you should consider Accepting one of the other people who posted an App but didn't make It.
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 10, 2008, 08:59:04 pm
Ok we will talk about it
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Roadkill on April 10, 2008, 09:39:52 pm
My bitrate is extemely low at the moment. It's pissing me off. :mad: I hate my ISP!
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Radagast on April 11, 2008, 12:37:23 am
Those using SAM, please send me a PM if you're hearing yourself back.

It's a problem with SAM not knowing where you want the sound to go to once it's been captured...

-MrJohannes
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on April 11, 2008, 10:41:38 am
Those using SAM, please send me a PM if you're hearing yourself back.

It's a problem with SAM not knowing where you want the sound to go to once it's been captured...

-MrJohannes

I have this problem also with other software always fix it though (and forget how  :razz:)

but why dont you make a little tutorial for  SAM (if youd like) so Giac can sticky it for future Dj's

Dont use PM for info that might benefit more people share it out  :D
Title: Re: Bitrate and connection>>changed to Dj's general Discussion
Post by: Radagast on April 11, 2008, 01:49:41 pm
Ok I'm doing it. It'll be in the radio board in a min...
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