Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: NitrOx on May 04, 2008, 10:27:41 pm
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The official list is back on - currently two servers are seen there
Just to inform you guys.
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Oh, interesting.
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wow nice
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It's will be good if our server will be one month more there. Then we get more new players who stay :)
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Hell yes, it just show how many people joined the ArgonathRPG server :D We already got some new regulars :D :hurray:
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heh excellent :conf:
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Hell yes, it just show how many people joined the ArgonathRPG server :D We already got some new regulars :D :hurray:
some.. ;)
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i hope argonath won't be there again...
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i hope argonath won't be there again...
I second that. When Argonath was on that list, sorry to say, it was a living hell. I almost left the server, and some of you may be able to remember. I said I was leaving for good. So, I left, and look, I'm back again. You just cannot resist Argonath. :) ))
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I do not know if we will support anymore the official servers idea of SA:MP due to the latest attitude SA:MP showed to its official servers... And I suppose they will make again money contribution to get in official list...
That idea we will not support for sure...
I can explain why i think so: no any respect from SAMP to its official servers was given... The way they removed all official servers was a bit out of normal attitude... Shutting down all SAMP and removing official list, then again opening it - its, sorry, childish... And to get in this list for Argonath is already out of respect... Official servers were only called "official" as had no any connections to the developers or support...
And if paying money for being official - that will not stop hackers... So that was just a deal of business (traffic) not an official policy...
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Like i understand Aragorn , official servers is for hackers, i mean. If we are there then we got alot hackers :D
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Like i understand Aragorn , official servers is for hackers, i mean. If we are there then we got alot hackers :D
I see that point of view as a very not-thinking one ... When the server 'attracts' hackers, most of the time it means they are interested in hacking our server. Why don't they hack a smal not popular server? Because there is no use in that ... they are jelous and they want to ruit the server, but they won't ;)
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The thing is not in hackers that attack official servers... the thing is that paying money for being official will not protect from hackers, even thou SA:MP team gives some "support" for troubleshooting...
But paying money to be official is not the same as paying money to be ranked server (traffic)... As official and ranked are different things...
As I see they returned back all those who paid money for traffic increase... Actually we do not need that feature... But being in the same line as this servers also means not respect ourselves...
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Well the thing that makes Argonath great is the people who play here.
Its like, most people are friendly and helpfull against eachother, and fights are most of the time solved soon.
Also... does SA:MP realy asks money from the server that wants to become offical?
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Also... does SA:MP realy asks money from the server that wants to become offical?
40$/month or 90$/3 months...
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40$/month or 90$/3 months...
Wow.. never expected that from the SA:MP Dev's team...
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They put their effort into making SA:MP so I think nobody is at right to say what kind of attitude they're showing to their (official) servers (which they named).
You might disagree, but you're just going to have to live with it. That's life.
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They put their effort into making SA:MP so I think nobody is at right to say what kind of attitude they're showing to their (official) servers (which they named).
You might disagree, but you're just going to have to live with it. That's life.
Well... its also thanks to all the servers that SA:MP is alive, lets just say like if nobody made a own server, SA:MP would not be anything :)
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Well... its also thanks to all the servers that SA:MP is alive, lets just say like if nobody made a own server, SA:MP would not be anything :)
Without the SA:MP developers allot of people would've missed allot of fun. And allot of communities wouldn't have been created.
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They put their effort into making SA:MP so I think nobody is at right to say what kind of attitude they're showing to their (official) servers (which they named).
The thing is official servers/partners do not need to pay and are invited actually... Besides it, official partners sharing the same amounts... )))
In the case with SA:MP they messed official and ranked servers meaning... Which does not make official status to be proud of or being in a close contact with the developers team...
Its the same as we are making a game, for example, and tell - those who will pay money will be official servers of our game... That will bring some cash but will not bring quality...
SA:MP does not care about quality of servers which represent SA:MP... Because they are not a game developers, they did not create San Andreas... They made a mod and now are trying making money on it... Before it will go down till the end due to GTA IV...
We can understand this move, but it could be done in a mature way... Not as it was...
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So, are the current servers on there right now paying? Or is it the original system?
Because.. the server was a lot better (from my point of view, at least_ with lots of players off the official list, for sure.
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yes who are now "official" all paid money...
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Actually it's $30 a month, Kye is just trying to bring back some money which he lost keeping samp up on it's feet. He must've lost over 1000+ on this project, and he's never attempted bringing it back.
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As far as I heard Littlewhitey was hosting and paying...
And Littlewhitey has an interest in it himself (host advertisement)...
If Key wanted to bring money back he could talk before to official servers owners and explain the situation...
All official servers were removed from the list without any dialog... How then this servers could be called "official"?
If Key wants to make money on losers - he can... We are enough stable community, and we have our own projects to work on and spend money on then just be called official SAMP server...
Besides it he could earn more from partnership... And if the things could be really developed in partnership, we probably would invite some SA:MP developers into our multiplayer project... But after watching things were running, I doubt we'll invite them... Not all friends you can buy for money...
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The night before the official list/forums closed down, The people who paid to be official met with Kye in irc.
Then about a week later, They're back on the official list, It was probably all planned out, cause they were fed up with the DDoS attacks.
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That was just explanation about their money they paid lol...
As when official list was down those who paid money would start crying they were scammed... :)
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They got re-funded :lol:
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I can see the Valhalla server on the official list right now ... if they are officials, then either they are paying or SA:MP don't know which servers to chose for it's list ..
As I had some talking with one of the SA:MP Developers (I dunno how he answered me, but he did) and I will ask him and give him another idea. In order to respect their servers (best servers and stable communitys), they must chose the most active and well put servers in the official list. Others can still pay, but the best ones will be in the list aswell ... that can show some respect to our and their work ... or atleast that's what I think.
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Do not talk about it with SAMP developers... You will gain only negative... They said they do not need a qualified servers, they want money - that should be clear to all... So stop please moan to developers and etc...
As for Argonath - no its not our style to pay money for being cool...
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Do not talk about it with SAMP developers... You will gain only negative... They said they do not need a qualified servers, they want money - that should be clear to all... So stop please moan to developers and etc...
As for Argonath - no its not our style to pay money for being cool...
I know ... but I ain't moaning, I will just ask them how is the situation and why is it that way ... maybe the guy will answer me ... maybe he won't ;)
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Hah I am sorry, but this style "You must pay donation 25/30$ per month" is really lolz...
So they even afraid to call payments the real word as it is...
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Good , Aragorn , that´means were not going back? :banana:
It was good that we went on the official list , otherwise we would have had much less players.
But still thats enough , we dont need to go back on :)
- [AV]Zun , Keep up the good work with the server.
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Hah I am sorry, but this style "You must pay donation 25/30$ per month" is really lolz...
So they even afraid to call payments the real word as it is...
You are also right here ... the donation thing is lame ...
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The idea is the same as it was before the attack and closing. Any server that pays can become official, and they have no right to refuse any server as long as the guy who pays is old enough....
I think that we are strong enough to get new players without the official rank, and while I would not be against supporting the SA:MP team if they chose to ask support from the servers that were chosen to be official, turning it a round makes it look like a comedy where everyone can buy an 'official' stamp.
Sorry, but we will not support turning SA:MP in to a commercial product, even if they claim it to be 'donations' to avoid problems with Take Two Interactive.