Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Aragorn on May 13, 2008, 01:13:39 pm
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Probably this time its permanently...
Master list is down, it shows only commercial (donated) servers... Site and forums were shut down as well...
For those who cannot find the servers they liked to play - can visit the Game Monitor (http://www.game-monitor.com/) which has all information about servers of SA:MP...
The one way of getting new players is now MTA:SA server, that is in public master list... It means it needs to be populated by players.
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Meh, Argonath 4 lyfe.
Lol, imagine all the people who will be joining the official servers? hahahaha
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Is that another atack? Or? I hope MTA:SA will be flooded with players now :banana:
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Come to MTA:SA people :D
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i Stick to SA:MP :D
btw...how about the 'big project' of the 0.2.5??? i see at grand larency its 75% done :D
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Dunno about Grand Larceny...
As for SA:MP... Good that you are sticked but think over it...
SA:MP had 6000 players online the same time... It means there are about 30.000 players a day...
Official servers can support only 1000 slots...
Where will go all other players? To the alternative... Whats alternative? MTA:SA, which is not bad...
As soon as MTA:SA will be crowded, commercial SA:MP servers will start losing... Paying money for traffic while others will have traffic for free from MTA:SA...
Shutting down the master list makes SA:MP dieing... As it was popular not cos of official servers...
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Dunno about Grand Larceny...
As for SA:MP... Good that you are sticked but think over it...
SA:MP had 6000 players online the same time... It means there are about 30.000 players a day...
Official servers can support only 1000 slots...
Where will go all other players? To the alternative... Whats alternative? MTA:SA, which is not bad...
As soon as MTA:SA will be crowded, commercial SA:MP servers will start losing... Paying money for traffic while others will have traffic for free from MTA:SA...
Shutting down the master list makes SA:MP dieing... As it was popular not cos of official servers...
i swear to God and Sauron that i saw Grand Larceny posted the Development was
75% done.....i come to see it again but it says u dont have permisssion to enter server..
i hope u guys dont Leave SA:MP...cos it is the best server there is :cry:
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Dunno about Grand Larceny...
As for SA:MP... Good that you are sticked but think over it...
SA:MP had 6000 players online the same time... It means there are about 30.000 players a day...
Official servers can support only 1000 slots...
Where will go all other players? To the alternative... Whats alternative? MTA:SA, which is not bad...
As soon as MTA:SA will be crowded, commercial SA:MP servers will start losing... Paying money for traffic while others will have traffic for free from MTA:SA...
Shutting down the master list makes SA:MP dieing... As it was popular not cos of official servers...
a main reson of me to stick in samp.......My bizz, car, licences, passport, house,money....Will return to 0
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a main reson of me to stick in samp.......My bizz, car, licences, passport, house,money....Will return to 0
I hope not many people will prefer money to the community and fun...
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(http://i26.tinypic.com/23o47q.jpg)
... :(
Oh well...
Edit: Right Click > View Image
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Nooooo! I can never play SA:MP again? Damn!!! :cry: Is there anyway!? I can pay! Please I do whatever is needed :bow:
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I don't get it, can people still enter Argonath? Because I can't
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http://www.gamerxserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1027.165
Kyeman Stop Developing SA:MP all because off this guys called
:flame: GamerX :flame:
look at the topic and read it patiently and u know wat i mean...i really hope this guy didnt come to Argonath..cos if he is...i gonna make him 'POOR' at Argonath!!
SA:MP!!!
Edited for Svenson:
all people can get in..i guess u need to reinstall ur SA or install the 0.2.2 R2 hotfix maybe?
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:( I will try that.
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But where from will I get 0.2.2 when SA:MP is down?
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Try Check on our File :D
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&Itemid=96&gid=18&orderby=dmdate_published
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But where from will I get 0.2.2 when SA:MP is down?
www.argonathrpg.eu -> Downloads -> GTA:SA -> SAMP (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=17&&Itemid=97)
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MTA SA is not a bad alternative as it has alot more possibilities then SAMP. I hope people will come to MTASA because the scripts gonna be awesome. ( we are working on it ) :D
But i understand that its not really fun if you loose your car etc...
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I lagg so much on mta:sa... i think im done :(
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I lagg so much on mta:sa... i think im done :(
What do you mean? Isn't it possible to play SA-MP anymore? :(
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No ... nobody said that. I don't know why u guys decided ur not able to play SAMP ...
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Not again. :trust:
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No ... nobody said that. I don't know why u guys decided ur not able to play SAMP ...
I haven't decided anything, but I just saw this and Austin saying that MTA-SA could be a good replacement..so I just thought.. :|
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http://www.gamerxserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1027.165
Kyeman Stop Developing SA:MP all because off this guys called
:flame: GamerX :flame:
You seriously think that its worth to shut down 2000 servers cos of that arguing with GamerX? The one who won here - GamerX... As they lost nothing cos were banned from server list anyways... The ones who lost - 2000 servers...
I hardly imagine I shut down Argonath cos of attacks and flame on me from some player...
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If you do that I no like you anymore ... and I hardly believe GamerX would do it either so I find Kye's actions a little not cool ...
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(Excuse my language.)
A Bunch of dumb fucking idiots.
Whenever someone does something MAGNIFICENT!
Some cock face Fuckmooks (love this word now) has to go and ruin it.
Everyone, say thanks for GamerX and Sacky for shutting down the best mod ever released known as San Andreas: Multiplayer.
Looks like were stuck with MTA:SA now.
And you are correct Ron.
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sorry for being so childish =/
seriously...i dun wanna get off from SA:MP cos i just got i want..friends.....
non at MTA....but i will check it sooner or later :)
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I have saw this gamerx on argonath server some times i think.. xgamerx or something .. :/
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Everyone, say thanks for GamerX and Sacky for shutting down the best mod ever released known as San Andreas: Multiplayer.
Looks like were stuck with MTA:SA now.
Why not say thanks to Keyman for shutting down SA:MP?
Unless he was not forced to do it... If he was not forced, who is Sacky? He has mighty powers on 30.000 people?
I do not know what exactly happened, I hardly imagine myself shutting down all people cos of one guy, but we already know Key anger...
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How do you know it was him :trust:
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sorry for being so childish =/
seriously...i dun wanna get off from SA:MP cos i just got i want..friends.....
non at MTA....but i will check it sooner or later :)
heh.. people on MTA are not bad also... Gamers are gamers everywhere...
But I suggest to all to stop comments and wait for 2-3 days what will happen...
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How do you know it was him :trust:
Read that topic on GamerX forums (lol spam, they will win even traffic to site with this scandal)...
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Yea, I thought about sending that to Kye, though I did not want to waste 3 mins finding a way to PM him, and waiting the rest of my life for a reply, as his account on GX forums will probably never be looked at again.
Sacky is nobody compared to a 30,000 players, but he threw the match into the gas pile, which started it.
Yea, I agree, its just like Real Life Politics, nobody really knows whats true or false, just claims. Even then, like you said somewhat, its no reason to stop SA:MP Development.
NitrOx, GamerX is not a player, GamerX is a community.
But I suggest to all to stop comments and wait for 2-3 days what will happen...
Yes, but I read on those GX forums, that Kye deleted all the files and dosen't have backups.
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Yes, but I read on those GX forums, that Kye deleted all the files and dosen't have backups.
In that case he must have deleted all his backups as well...
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Dont worry all!!!!!
http://forum.sa-mp.co.uk/index.php/topic,998.0.html
!!!! There will be other solution.
http://forum.sa-mp.co.uk/index.php/topic,997.0.html R.I.P :(
Thanks to gamerX, its gone. :(
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oh, i iddnt know hayden.. can anyone post link of GamerX topic? I want to see what he's done..
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oh, i iddnt know hayden.. can anyone post link of GamerX topic? I want to see what he's done..
Bah, neither did I.
http://www.gamerxserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1024.0 ;)
Wrong Link, my bad.
Right Link.
http://www.gamerxserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1027.0
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Sad but true.. I hope SA MP will come back though.. i was waiting for 0.2.5 and i dont think that they would have ruined all their work for this ?!?!
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In my gaming life, I have never seen such a "stable" development team.. :(
:ps: Bids on SA:MP coming back within 72 hours? :lol:
-xcasio
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In my gaming life, I have never seen such a "stable" development team.. :(
-xcasio
me neither :D lol
I dont know this time though.. seems like they have might given up.. for the 5th time.. but maybe this time its real
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heh.. people on MTA are not bad also... Gamers are gamers everywhere...
But I suggest to all to stop comments and wait for 2-3 days what will happen...
lets wait Kyeman to get cooler..or at least...know that wat he left just now :)..he just left his community stranded...and i hope not all of SA:MP community migrate to MTA:SA =/
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Atleast the wiki is still up , which gives me some sense of hope: http://wiki.sa-mp.com/wiki/Main_Page
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lets wait Kyeman to get cooler..or at least...know that wat he left just now :)..he just left his community stranded...and i hope not all of SA:MP community migrate to MTA:SA =/
I can ensure you that in some time MTA:SA Server will be very much like the SA:MP with all it's features ... and all thanks to Clooak's great work ... I LOVE YOU CLOOAK <3
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Sacky is nobody compared to a 30,000 players, but he threw the match into the gas pile, which started it.
Probably he should not register there and start arguing...
In that way it was arguing with each other, which leaded Keyman to this decision...
I can understand if he decided to ban some server from master list (who discusses the boss's decisions), but why he shut down all?
In this case, how paradoxically it would not sound, Keyman preferred GamerX to all others...
Its like someone does not like payment for electricity and Electric company shuts down all electricity in the area...
The question from other citizens: Why?
Wanna "thank" GamerX, "Thank" Keyman as well... As the result we see now was not created by one side...
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Why have samp team gave up, thats a bit stupid isent it.?
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Don't ask us "Why?"...
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At least argonath wont give up ! :bow:
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At least argonath wont give up ! :bow:
We will lose respect to ourselves then...
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2 people from GX stole some of samp's source code, after jacob sent a little bit of it. that was how he made his plugin, Hence how the bots were made.
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Is the SA:MP Developer team full of 14 year old kids?
Well to bad then SA:MP, i aint gonna cry over it.
I had great times on SA:MP, but if this it they way they wanna end it, be my guest
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Is the SA:MP Developer team full of 14 year old kids?
Well to bad then SA:MP, i aint gonna cry over it.
I had great times on SA:MP, but if this it they way they wanna end it, be my guest
No offence to 14 year olds alright?
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No offence to 14 year olds alright?
:roll: i aint even gonna reply to that
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2 people from GX stole some of samp's source code, after jacob sent a little bit of it. that was how he made his plugin, Hence how the bots were made.
Why don't ban the server whose owner is leaking from developers team info? Why ban all servers? Cos shutting down the internet servers list and keeping "official" servers list is equal to ban all other servers...
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I...Dont..believe it.. omg
I know i play SAMP not as much as you guys do, But i still PLAY(ed) it and thats all that matters! :cry:
Ill move to MTA:SA then...when i get it working :neutral:
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I...Dont..believe it.. omg
I know i play SAMP not as much as you guys do, But i still PLAY(ed) it and thats all that matters! :cry:
Ill move to MTA:SA then...when i get it working :neutral:
Welcome to the club, MTA:SA aint working for me also :lol:
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which mta sa or mta sa dm?, if u want mta sa dm 2 wrk u have a reg a account, dont go on mta sa race.
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which mta sa or mta sa dm?, if u want mta sa dm 2 wrk u have a reg a account, dont go on mta sa race.
MTA SA DM, i tryed everything, i even send them a nice e-mail if they could help me ( but that was 1 month ago and still didnt got a email back).
When i start MTA SA DM is says the window with Stop Playing with yourself, and then a black screen comes, and when it goes away am back at my deskop again.
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Why don't ban the server whose owner is leaking from developers team info? Why ban all servers? Cos shutting down the internet servers list and keeping "official" servers list is equal to ban all other servers...
Kyeman said: "This isnt entirely GamerX's fault, Although they did put the nail in the coffin".
"Im fed up with all the DDoS attacks, and all that nonsense, Samp was a free mod."
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I guess it will return once again...
Hmm what's MTA:SA ? Lets check it out... :)
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"Im fed up with all the DDoS attacks, and all that nonsense, Samp was a free mod."
Well, when I got tired of all attacks and crashers with flamers I resigned myself... But did I shut down Argonath RPG? Never... Its up personally to people who and how can and wants to solve problems...
Some are retired themselves, others drawn the whole ship...
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Okay im sorry but I NEED to be a bit offtopic but could someone explain what "DDoS attacks" means and what that acctually happens. Please? Thanks.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack)
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Thank you (k)
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Yay, The stupid GamerX website is down, Well to me it is. www.gamerxserver.com.
At least we achieved something out of mindless flame :roll:.
Well, when I got tired of all attacks and crashers with flamers I resigned myself... But did I shut down Argonath RPG? Never... Its up personally to people who and how can and wants to solve problems...
Some are retired themselves, others drawn the whole ship...
So you want Kyeman to pass on a code with 2-3 years of work into it, Straight onto someone else to develop?
Y_Less offered to code for it, but for some reason, Kye wouldn't give it to him.
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Yay, The stupid GamerX website is down, Well to me it is. www.gamerxserver.com.
At least we achieved something out of mindless flame :roll:.
So you want Kyeman to pass on a code with 2-3 years of work into it, Straight onto someone else to develop?
Y_Less offered to code for it, but for some reason, Kye wouldn't give it to him.
That depends. If Kyeman really has lost all interest and others want to continue the work, why would he not except for the reason he does not want others to continue it either.
The whole situation showed once more that the success of SA:MP also brought problems that were beyond the reach of the programmers.
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So you want Kyeman to pass on a code with 2-3 years of work into it, Straight onto someone else to develop?
Y_Less offered to code for it, but for some reason, Kye wouldn't give it to him.
I do not want anything Keyman to do... I never talked to him, never met him...
I also do not demand anything from him...
I am the servers owner and work with this servers...
Whats going on inside developers team - their private problems...
I am not a grandma who is sitting in front of TV and watching soap opera where 60 minutes all house is testing whose hat was under the bed...
I am also against ANY kinds of hacks attacks - does not matter which site was attacked - SA:MP or GamerX...
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WE decided to shutdown? lol, don't make me laugh, from what i hear from the SA:MP devs , they were happy working...*Coughs* Kyeman*Coughs*
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Kyeman is the only samp dev that's been on the dev team for a while, The DDoS attacks, and personal information being leaked, just ticked him off.
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http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/19262.html
If you want to help bring it back. :)
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Kyeman is the only samp dev that's been on the dev team for a while, The DDoS attacks, and personal information being leaked, just ticked him off.
Nobody tells its easy to run big communities... And I said I can understand that he got tired...
But all are different and chose different ways to solve the problem...
If you like this decision of shutting down SA:MP, you can uninstall it from your PC to support Keyman's decision...
But you will not... As you like SA:MP and its community... So think then in this way what I tried to tell...
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Kyeman is the only samp dev that's been on the dev team for a while, The DDoS attacks, and personal information being leaked, just ticked him off.
I truly suggest you not to get involved in developers scandals... Because it can lead to questions like if Keyman was the only one developer how it happened that the personal info was leaked out... So please, we respect what SA:MP team did, we respect this multiplayer mod, we enjoy of playing it... But we do not put our noses inside the scandals of developers which went out on public... Leave it to them...
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So how are people getting on ArgonathRPG SA-MP server. I checked the game monitor thing and the amount of players is going up and down. Whenever I open the internet tab in SA-MP, I get nothing. This is going to suck, I loved SA-MP a lot and they Just got rid of it without notice.. They won't even let anyone distribute the files or host a master server so we can use it. I hope they think it over and maybe reconsider. I know its not likely to happen but theres a little hope.
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This Is Crazy: http://www.sa-mp.com
www.sa-mp.com
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We gave up! kaput!
And we don't wish to be a associated with this program anymore.
So please respect our copyright and license and do not distribute any of our files.
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Could This Be True?
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How could you not see this?
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=16201.0
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all I have to say is one word: ...Damn
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Save Argonath to favorite list if you haven't already :S
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This is the most retarted thing ever... Wtf, this Kyeman... closed down SA-MP over this fool called GamerX.
Are you that scared Kyeman of an no-life hacker?
He gave treats like this or what:
"I gonna kill you if you release sa-mp 0.2.5."
"Dont release, im gonna kill your mother"
And if he tried to hack, why cant Kyeman do something about it?
How the f**k can you bee scared of an hacker?
What can he do, kill you thru the comp?
Send a virus to your mother?
Its just a game. How can this GamerX take it so seriously.
And how can Kyeman give up everthing for just this weak hacker guy with that ugly name.
Im sorry for my language, but this is f**king weak.
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I have spoken to damo today on Messenger, and it really does look like that SA:MP have quit all ventures, and have moved on from developing the client.
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quote from the samp website:We gave up! kaput!
And we don't wish to be a associated with this program anymore.
So please respect our copyright and license and do not distribute any of our files.
this is so childish like saying If i cant play with the toy NOBODY can
if there will be future mods by this dev team (like for gta4 if at all possible)I sugest we do not use them as they will start crying and moaning again at the first sign of trouble.. maybe our community can bring forth its own modding team ??(I dont even know what skills are involved but just a thought)
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Add my msn and i will send you it, you can also check the download section we got at the website www.argonathrpg.eu ;)
But i recommend you to try out MTA:SA if you havent.
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if there will be future mods by this dev team (like for gta4 if at all possible)I sugest we do not use them as they will start crying and moaning again at the first sign of trouble.. maybe our community can bring forth its own modding team ??(I dont even know what skills are involved but just a thought)
We are working on our own multiplayer game, so we will not waste our time on mods like SA:MP (for GTA SA)... There is already mod MTA SA...
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This is the most retarted thing ever... Wtf, this Kyeman... closed down SA-MP over this fool called GamerX.
Are you that scared Kyeman of an no-life hacker?
He gave treats like this or what:
"I gonna kill you if you release sa-mp 0.2.5."
"Dont release, im gonna kill your mother"
And if he tried to hack, why cant Kyeman do something about it?
How the f**k can you bee scared of an hacker?
What can he do, kill you thru the comp?
Send a virus to your mother?
Its just a game. How can this GamerX take it so seriously.
And how can Kyeman give up everthing for just this weak hacker guy with that ugly name.
Im sorry for my language, but this is f**king weak.
no no no..thats not only the main reason....go check on Youtube and serach his name...try to understand that Kyeman left hiw work cos his tired of hackers 'attacking' ;)
not all about GamerX u know that :D
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lol, those guys are little drama queens.
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We are working on our own multiplayer game, so we will not waste our time on mods like SA:MP (for GTA SA)... There is already mod MTA SA...
ow yes how is that going? (I forgot still have a record I should send you :P)
Add my msn and i will send you it, you can also check the download section we got at the website www.argonathrpg.eu ;)
But i recommend you to try out MTA:SA if you havent.
MTA:SA doesnt work for me .also I am samp admin I will not leave the sinking ship first
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ow yes how is that going? (I forgot still have a record I should send you :P)
MTA:SA doesnt work for me .also I am samp admin I will not leave the sinking ship first
that wa my first reason i dun wanna leave Argonath :)..main reason is friends and Respect ;)
and i hope u guys still stick to SA:MP :D
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You dont loose any friends if you just move to another game server its still Argonath, most of them who are in MTA:SA are regulars and they have played SA:MP or still plays it.
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I understand you sticked to SAMP because all the time we were playing on SAMP and MTA SA is a lil late with releases...
But now situation is clear, SAMP is dead and the community split on small servers/kingdoms...
Even if the SAMP UK forums released their tool to get the servers back to internet list:
- there were 6000 players at one time statistics of all SAMP servers... Which means there are around 30000 players of whole SAMP community...
- SAMP UK forums have registered 600 users in total... Which means 29400 players do not know or do not visit this forums...
- for a simple player (not regular or sticked to any community personal) its difficult to find this forums if only they will not try to find it in purpose and careful...
- So there is no way to bring back all 30000 players... SAMP will lose them in couple of weeks...
- With that what will happen to the servers? They will slowly go down... As the amount of random players income is almost equal to 0... It means that some will got bored and leave, some will be banned and leave, etc... So the only way of future for SAMP communities - decreasing of all servers popularity...
- New players do not even visit the Game Monitor... So what you expect from the samp loader which you must download to SAMP, announce your game or whatever...
- Besides it, what was said on home page of samp.com - asking for stopping playing SAMP as a respect to copyright... This is at least how I understood...
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Offical list is also down, SA-MP = a dead program, useless.
Well, no reason to download it anymore I think.
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SA:MP is not dead...its just a 'dead end' for me ;)
i think its time for Kyeman to give his copyright to Sauron??? =/ or any good Developers?
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No ron I think they meant (by saying respect our license/copyright) they dont want ANYONE to continue devellopment kind of egoisticly saying if we dont devellop SA:MP is dead....Ill try to install MTa again maybe now samp is dead it will take off ..I jsst hope it works for me now ... wo knows maybe the MTA:sa server can uses an experienced admin to help.... WORK I BEG YOU MTA .. :bow:
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No ron I think they meant (by saying respect our license/copyright) they dont want ANYONE to continue devellopment kind of egoisticly saying if we dont devellop SA:MP is dead....Ill try to install MTa again maybe now samp is dead it will take off ..I jsst hope it works for me now ... wo knows maybe the MTA:sa server can uses an experienced admin to help.... WORK I BEG YOU MTA .. :bow:
I beg you too MTA ... WORK ! :bow:
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i just go to MTA just now..and it lags a lot =/
is the MTA and SA:MP has the same place where it come from?
btw..im just checking...not realy movin there ;)
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no they are different teams but on GTA4 online you also see lag and desync sometimes(I was playing allone with maxy and we laaaaged could be the 50 cops attacking us though ) I think It has to do with rockstar games
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Any news/move/decision about Kyeman..pls post here so i can see it :cry:
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YES i got MTA SA to work ..but it doesnt support controller ..I alwasy drive /fly using that ah wel atleast ther is an alternative ..but I also saw lag and I was allone :?:
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YES i got MTA SA to work ..but it doesnt support controller ..I alwasy drive /fly using that ah wel atleast ther is an alternative ..but I also saw lag and I was allone :?:
man i want argonath!!!!
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Yes I think the problem of lag will come out to all on MTA SA as soon as there will be 20 players...
About SA:MP Mabako is trying to work out the new master list... Some of work is HERE (http://sa-mp.mabako.net)...
At least you can find IP Port of servers...
I tried and got some problems so I suppose its in developing yet...
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YES i got MTA SA to work ..but it doesnt support controller ..I alwasy drive /fly using that ah wel atleast ther is an alternative ..but I also saw lag and I was allone :?:
how did you got it to work mate?
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About SA:MP Mabako is trying to work out the new master list...
Yeah , but i couldnt find Argonath? I guess we arent added yet :(
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We are added, server was restarted...
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We're official on that list o_o
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http://www.rakkarsoft.com/raknet/forum/index.php?topic=1433.0
seems like Kyeman did the SA:MP using Raknet..anyone knows how to use this??
btw..still hopin Kyeman will come and change his mind =/
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There wont be anyone making a new SAMP Neo, There's SAMP and MTA:SA, that's it.
Takes ages to make one, I mean, take a look at Mafia:MP...
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There wont be anyone making a new SAMP Neo, There's SAMP and MTA:SA, that's it.
Takes ages to make one, I mean, take a look at Mafia:MP...
But the Mafia:MP Development team are trying to do it from like ... 2 years or something. I guess it is not easy at all and it won't be made now.
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But the Mafia:MP Development team are trying to do it from like ... 2 years or something. I guess it is not easy at all and it won't be made now.
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I just f*n said that...
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There wont be anyone making a new SAMP Neo, There's SAMP and MTA:SA, that's it.
Takes ages to make one, I mean, take a look at Mafia:MP...
There can be a new mod, Abraham... People are still making new mods for games that are 5 years old and have already 1-2 multiplayer mods... So it is possible that someone will do it...
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As long as i can play sa-mp there is no problem :P but i wanted to play 0.2.5 :( .
If they closed down then were will we play GTA:IV on PC multiplayer :( ?
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how did you got it to work mate?
I installed it and it just worked I dont know how :?: I used to freeze at the playing with yourself thing but i got further this time still froze ..BUT then my firewall gave me a notice and i alowed it then it worked ..only thing I updated since last time is firewall/ antivirus so I guess my problem was there
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As far as i know, there's a team called "SAP" San Andreas Party, Making their own MP mod for GTA: SA and they're recruiting any1 who has a little coding expertise.
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As far as i know, there's a team called "SAP" San Andreas Party, Making their own MP mod for GTA: SA and they're recruiting any1 who has a little coding expertise.
which is not really good tho ...
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Atleast they try ...I guess they are just people like us who play and thought ..wel if they dont devellop it we will try
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There can be a new mod, Abraham... People are still making new mods for games that are 5 years old and have already 1-2 multiplayer mods... So it is possible that someone will do it...
I guess the chances are higher now then ever, seeing as there's allot of good scripters who play SAMP and who's seen how fun it can be, but the chances of a new mod coming out for San Andreas within the coming months(?) is very low, possibly in a year or two, but yeah...
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Atleast they try ...I guess they are just people like us who play and thought ..wel if they dont devellop it we will try
I can try for sure. I am sure there are great scripters in Argonath ... maybe there will be succeed :)
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About SA:MP Mabako is trying to work out the new master list... Some of work is HERE (http://sa-mp.mabako.net)...
Hah, I like the way GamerX isn't on there...
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Hah, I like the way GamerX isn't on there...
Poncho conflict between Key and GamerX should stay between them... And as we have no enough info we cannot judge any side... But I can say - the way disrespect was shown - its not how people should deal the troubles...
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To the rest - guys I said it clear - we will not develop the new mod for GTA SA...
We will not spend time on it even if we can... We are working on our own game...
So all we will - support the SA:MP community and their work if it needs...
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To the rest - guys I said it clear - we will not develop the new mod for GTA SA...
We will not spend time on it even if we can... We are working on our own game...
So all we will - support the SA:MP community and their work if it needs...
Oh yeah the game I've forgotten about that^^ We want information, havent seen any in a looong while :P
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Oh yeah the game I've forgotten about that^^ We want information, havent seen any in a looong while :P
The first were plans and contracts (organization)... Now we started work on it closely... No any information will be opened... Just so you know - yes we started working on it (scripting/design)...
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ArgoScape ftw ^___^
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Just because SA:MP is "dead" dont mean we need to give up we still got our server and i think we will do well :)
ArgoScape ftw ^___^
HAHAHA
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The first were plans and contracts (organization)... Now we started work on it closely... No any information will be opened... Just so you know - yes we started working on it (scripting/design)...
Okay well goodluck with it thought :)
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Aragorn, when you say "we" do you mean you and Gandalf, or all the scripters?
Or what?
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Aragorn, when you say "we" do you mean you and Gandalf, or all the scripters?
Or what?
We have a small development team that are working, but we are the main developers. The real work is starting, and we might bring out some 'shitty' projects to develop our skills in special areas.
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what Skills would someone need to help with this project?(just informing)
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what Skills would someone need to help with this project?(just informing)
We are uploading constantly the information about "vacancies", where we write what exactly we need...
For now we would like a support of skins modelers and animation designers
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this is a topic on another site
http://www.gamerxserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1027.165
this site is to blame for y SA-MP is down
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JudgedReaper,
guys already posted this link in this thread...
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oh sorry lol didnt see that but i would like ppl to post on this site saying how annoyed they are at them :D
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this is a topic on another site
http://www.gamerxserver.com/forum/index.php?topic=1027.165
this site is to blame for y SA-MP is down
Do not blame one site, one person or even one action. If two fight, usually both are to blame. We do not have all knowledges on what people think, wrote, did and experienced, and why they acted as they did. We can all have our opinions on what happened and was posted in one topic or another, but that does not change anything.
So do not play a blaming game, just work on how to go further from this.
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this is what Thrustking told me over msn
[c=#267111]SA out thanks alot SS United [/c=1] says:
'Sacky: can you at least do something for me? Stop acting like you know who I am or what I do. Reading my name on sa-mp.com doesn't mean you know me. Everything I said still stands. I will take action against you once I find out who you are.
SA-MP is gone. And I know GamerX would like to take all the credit for it, but that's not the case. Sacky is one of about 10 people who have been waging personal attacks against me over the past few months. You might have noticed I changed my nick to 'sampdev' a couple of weeks ago. Well this was because several youtube videos were popping up labeling me as a homosexual and a few other things. These videos were made by people I've never ever spoken to. They claim it's "Free Speech" to attack someone's character.
So I am worried about personal attacks against me on the web. This is the first one that has involved claims of fraud and extortion - which is a very serious claim. But these attacks against me will persist for a long time after SA-MP is gone and I'm not going to hang about to see if they get any worse. So damo was right in what he said
I can't afford to stay.
Anyway, I figured out the real extortionists are right here on GamerX. The character assasination attacks against me were encouraged by GamerX staff in the hope that GamerX might get their official listing back on the SA-MP master list. Game-monitor shows that since GamerX lost their official listing, the server population has been slowly declining. This would have eventually lead to a slow in growth of the community.
This isn't much different than Netzeek's attacks, just the attack method used was different.
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oh sorry lol didnt see that but i would like ppl to post on this site saying how annoyed they are at them :D
First of all GamerX were not the one reason, secondly, SAMP is down because Keyman shut it down...
Yes GamerX showed a big disrespect to Keyman's policy, but were banned all servers... And here is no way GamerX are guilty...
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start a petition?
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we should but as i told you over msn he will not read this
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There is already a petition (http://www.gopetition.co.uk/petitions/bring-sanandreas-multiplayer-back.html)
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ok thanks aragorn but i dont think he will see that also cant he just pass SA-MP to someone els
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we should but as i told you over msn he will not read this
I had also youtube videos against me when we started Argonath...
Server was under attack 24/7... Main developers were replacing each other at night with cups of coffee just to protect the players...
That was total flame... Even more worst then in this GamerX topic... That were crashers from all servers around with threats, crashbots, hacking, leaking information from developers team by some dumbasses whom we accepted in the beginning...
Still we are here and we are among the best servers... And we were not going registering on their forums to fight back for our servers... We just banned this dumbs and ignored totally what they were spreading about us...
We were, are and will be the team which trusts each other and gives to player the maximum possible protection and support...
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ok thanks aragorn but i dont think he will see that also cant he just pass SA-MP to someone els
That is the question with 99% answer: no...
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a friend has told me hes done this before back in july 2007, however it came back up within 4 days so i do hope for the same, i dont realy get why people would threaten him just to get there server on the official list.....
anyway lets hope he sees the petition
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hope wont help we need action
also why not Aragorn
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Well this time it was done in other way then before Keyman was shutting down SA:MP...
But having experience with shutting downs, I left 1% for possible back... Dunno... Lets wait...
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well i hope that your odds are wrong and its more 100% yes but you know it prob wont happen but still we hope
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I dont see what all the moaning is about, He still developed samp to what it is today, 0.2.2 R2 will be the best release in history.
Some people still play 0.1, they dont seem bothered about not having 0.2.5.
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the problems are that no new people can get the 0.2.2 client and the internet list has gone
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ha ha ha offtopic but obi1 i love your sig ha ha ha
but 0.2.5 has more cars and stuff and more cars are good
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I dont see what all the moaning is about, He still developed samp to what it is today, 0.2.2 R2 will be the best release in history.
Nobody moans here, Obi1...
We are just talking...
He developed SAMP, he shut down SAMP...
Nobody tells he is a bad developer as well... And nobody shits SAMP...
Do not start here flame us as well...
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I think he did a great Job on SA-MP it's just sad for some servers because they have a full site dedicated to it and everything, and they load it up to find that SA-MP is dead and no longer working. Fortunately for us we have the MTA server. My MTA works but randomly closes sometimes.
I hope they bring back SA-MP or at least a friend of his takes it over or something.
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i didnt mean Argonath, i ment the people, who start going : "Oh kye u lazy sh8t" and people like that.
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i didnt mean Argonath, i ment the people, who start going : "Oh kye u lazy sh8t" and people like that.
no ones sayign that here were just hoping he reconsiders and restarts work etc (btw of topic but has the work been stoped on that grand larceny thing?)
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i didnt mean Argonath, i ment the people, who start going : "Oh kye u lazy sh8t" and people like that.
Yes this is not correct/fair/respectable to flame the work which all used...
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and trains on both side of the track wow that would have been so cool i dont know why but it would
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no ones sayign that here were just hoping he reconsiders and restarts work etc (btw of topic but has the work been stoped on that grand larceny thing?)
Grand Larceny is also down... So I think he stopped both projects...
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www.grand-larceny.net has the same message as www.sa-mp.com, So yea i take it that it's stopped thrustking.
So does that mean that samp 0.2.5 and grand-larceny had a connection?
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noo that means that no trains on both side :cry: i liked that darn
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my understanding was grand-larceny was 0.2.5
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oh well if it dont come back soon then MTA here i come
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my understanding was grand-larceny was 0.2.5
Probably... As it had the same project developing bar as 0.2.5...
Ok I am off topic for now or it will increase my posts numbers while answering and discussing... :)
Just do not flame others, whats done - done, hope on good things and who knows, maybe it will be back...
And thanks also for decent discussion here without total flame to any of the sides in such hard situation... Respect to you guys...
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do hacks still work on MTA lol just kidding i would never use them. i hope SA-MP comes back cuz i cant find any servers. i like to search for empty servers and pile everyones cars at LSPD lol.
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No flame but i do regret people give up under threats ..thats like giving in to terrorism and giving up ..Just today maxy and I were talking how we admired the persistance Argonath had when starting out ...you guys handeled everything they threw at you without using the same tactics..I just wish the samp devellopers had that motivation
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I totally agree with you Iggy (I wasn't here at the start of Argo tho, but I agree about the motivation part).
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i hope SA-MP comes back cuz i cant find any servers. i like to search for empty servers and pile everyones cars at LSPD lol.
http://sa-mp.mabako.net
And thanks for support guys...
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I wasnt there at the start also but I heard the stories( I am here for about 14 months)
http://sa-mp.mabako.net
And thanks for support guys...
Thanks for the list I was looking for one to see how the other serververs are doing now this happened..
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4 official servers and Argo is one of them ... great news. I also heard stories, but mostly about how Kalle and Aragorn liked eachother on MTA:VC .. nothing more. I hope SA:MP can live ... or atlase SAP can replace it.
By the way, I just noticed that mabako is a San Andreas Party mod developer and still trying to keep SA:MP alive ... what a great guy :)
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Off topic but: Can we still Join the Argonath Server. Its in my favorites but it Just keeps saying Retrieving info.
I hope they succeed in keeping it alive.
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the server is up for me It may be something other thats causing your problem I have had it before also
thry this: Start>Run>type: cmd press enter> type tracert 89.149.196.238 and enter again
see where it stops thats probably where there is a problem if it a server owned by your provider the prob is there
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4 official servers and Argo is one of them ... great news. I also heard stories, but mostly about how Kalle and Aragorn liked eachother on MTA:VC ..
We had no fight with Kalle and even met on Argonath server and told to each other good words... We never fought each other and never flamed each other... All attacks were leaded or done not by Kalle but by some jealous dumbs from his community who did not like that people created their own server and this dumbs were caring the idea of all servers attack on Argonath... Were coming with crashes and flame even those whom we never knew...
The day time was secured by Kaltsu and Gandalf, the night time - me, Sauron and Legolas... And yeah that was hard not only morally ("Why?") but also physically (3-4 hours of sleeping a day)... :)
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I didn't said you fight ... I talk with him a lot and he told me many stuff ... I said nothing about fighting. By 'how they liked eachother' I meant that you really trusted him and you did all teh job yourself...
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thanks but i think im going to have to move to MTA i dont want to but my friends and i were making a server but new servers can get ppl because internet list is down
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thanks but i think im going to have to move to MTA i dont want to but my friends and i were making a server but new servers can get ppl because internet list is down
Tell your friends with the server to watch THIS (http://forum.sa-mp.co.uk/index.php/topic,1004.0.html)...
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Aragorn one of the friends is Thrustking so he knows :D
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Thanks for the link Aragorn, i just got that and saw i can see other servers now :D
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Too bad Kye had to give up.
*a tear*
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Tell your friends with the server to watch THIS (http://forum.sa-mp.co.uk/index.php/topic,1004.0.html)...
have you pm ed the maker of this? he asks server owners who were official Before samp asked for money to PM him there ..I think he wants to put up the official servers also :hurray:
By the way, people whose server was official in SA:MP 0.2.2 before you needed to pay to get official, may pm me.
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we are staying with SA-MP as long as that works :)
i know this is off topic but i thank you for helping even when im perm banned from the server.
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Wow that really worked. Its sad to see almost every server is 0/200 players though. Its so empty. Hopefully people will find this and get back to enjoying SA-MP
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Tell your friends with the server to watch THIS (http://forum.sa-mp.co.uk/index.php/topic,1004.0.html)...
I found that yesterday!
Its a very good link.
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i know this is really off topic but on MTA what can and cant you do on it. Like do you have less cars and types of cars
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dont keep going off topic here please yesterday you also did ..
either make an new topic in the MTA:SA board OR look for one thats already there ..this topic is for what happened to SA:MP only
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i know our server is still on SA:MP with mabako, but how do i get on, everytime i hotlink the IP to SAMP i cant seem to connect :help:
please, BRING BACK SAMP :cry:
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The original samp version, Not Mabako's one, now has the official list, and the internet list loads very slowly
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Yeah, I noticed that ... my internet list won't woad, but the officials one loads normal. We are not there thou ...
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Master list is up again, LittleWhitey will provide its support for now...
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why isnt argonath on it ?
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why isnt argonath on it ?
Because we changed the announce to the Mabako list. But we will be there soon, and are in the 'official' tab of the Mabako list.
Right now we do not know which list will stay up :roll:
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did Mabako also take over the SA:MP project?? the script??
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Too bad that they gave up.....they should give up after 0.2.5 release....
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Too bad that they gave up.....they should give up after 0.2.5 release....
Do not be so selfish...
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Do not be so selfish...
I dont know if thats selfish ...they did say they would stop after 0.2.5 anyway so why not finish it before stopping?I also thought that
if they want more understanding from people they should make a public announcement why they stopped this way they are inviting people to speculate
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I wouldn't suppose its possible for some kind of dual sampserver.exe or even a dual announce.exe that deals with both the SA-MP Master List and also the Mabako List? That would be ideal.
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I dont know if thats selfish ...
Yes it is, in other words "Ok Kye, go only release for us 0.2.5"... That is selfish...
they did say they would stop after 0.2.5 anyway so why not finish it before stopping?
Cos they shut down all project...
I also thought that if they want more understanding from people they should make a public announcement why they stopped this way they are inviting people to speculate
They made a public announcement on their site why they stopped SA:MP... Which way they did it - up to them...
Who wants which understanding from which people, I think it is lost already far ago with the first shut down...
SA:MP is not dead on 100%, but it lost the leader, so expect any kinds of speculating now when everyone is up to his own...
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at mine it's still runing and i'm playing at it now :banana: :hurray: :razz: :D :D :evil:
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Yes it is, in other words "Ok Kye, go only release for us 0.2.5"... That is selfish...
Wel they could atleast release the source code then others could continue ...but I really dont know ALL the reasons behind it ..and I do agree the first time they shut it down it was over ...
at mine it's still runing and i'm playing at it now :banana: :hurray: :razz: :D :D :evil:
yes the client will still work only support is dead meaning no new players are able to download it ..i was thinking of maybe hosyting a download for the client ..but I am afraid they are against that also.... It feels like they want samp to die (anyone know if they would alow someone to keep distributing 0.2.2???)
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yes the client will still work only support is dead meaning no new players are able to download it ..i was thinking of maybe hosyting a download for the client ..but I am afraid they are against that also.... It feels like they want samp to die (anyone know if they would alow someone to keep distributing 0.2.2???)
According to what I read it is now allowed to distribute the client. But things change 3 times a day, so lets wait and see until it calms down.
We will open a download when all is clear.
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Well atm they aint got no sites.
Its just the web directory meaning either an update or they decided to do some changes.
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i hope u Right..i always pray to God hopin That 'him' Will Come to Release the Next version
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According to what I read it is now allowed to distribute the client. But things change 3 times a day, so lets wait and see until it calms down.
We will open a download when all is clear.
ok on the argonath site is much better than the free host I would do so Ill wait for the wise man :gand:
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Quote from Kye:
To anyone that plays the game mod SA-MP:-
I have given up on any further development of SA-MP. I have been involved in GTA multiplayer mod development now for 5 years and most of that time was a lot of fun.
SA-MP.com will come back online, but only as a place to download the software that was created. I won't be actively supporting this mod or involved in the running of it. The master server list has been taken over by littlewhitey from GTA-Host and he has said he'll try to keep the service running for as long as he can.
A note on servers that donated:-
All servers that donated for official were refunded, but I decided they will keep their official listings for at least 3 months as a token of appreciation. 3 of the 10 servers that donated refunded the refund saying they seriously wanted to donate. Of course, since I have given up on this project I was not able to accept it. The original idea to accept donations for official was not mine. It was suggested to me by people who run SA-MP servers. The server list, SA-MP server, and SA-MP server browser are completely seperate from GTA San Andreas in that they don't require anything from GTA:SA to run.
Warning to those that run SA-MP servers and seriously want to see this mod kept alive:-
Beware of those who hang around but don't actually play SA-MP.
There are people involved in this mod at various levels who are hanging around for so-called "community." They do not play SA-MP. They have attacked the former SA-MP developers and admins of popular servers claiming it's their right under "free speech." But given other opportunities to attack, such as: using stolen passwords, using/creating flood tools or bots, cheating on servers and leaking private files; they have done this. They do not care if this mod gets buried 10ft below the ground along with all 100,000 people who actively play it. I have tried to fight these people but that responsibility will now fall on you. They must be rejected at every level if this mod is to stay alive.
I guess that means that we can distribute the client again and only the developing is forbidden...
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It would have been great to see that 3 days earlier..... :roll:
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Yes this three days brought a lot of negative...
Glad to see Kye is giving his project to people...
Probably its not the end of story... :)
Anyways I calm down now... :)
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thats all I (we)asked for ...they should have put that on the site instead of the Kaput statement
I thank him for his clarity ..and ofcourse I understand after 5 years he wants to move on
(thanks for the research Ledgend ..living up to your name)
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Yeah hope we will not see this Kaput again... :)
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Aragorn i asked you if he would hand it over to someone on page 9 or 10 well it looks like you were right to leave that 1%. :)
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Aragorn i asked you if he would hand it over to someone on page 9 or 10 well it looks like you were right to leave that 1%. :)
We are just experienced with shutdowns :)
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What? The website isn't back yet? .. euhm, like wow! :lol: :rofl:
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the index.html is gone of sa-mp.com, so nothing to see there.
untill that file comes back I think.
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SA-MP web sitem is now back up everything you need to know is there. Yes SA-MP has been taken over and no there will be no more updates apart from important ones.
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SA-MP web sitem is now back up everything you need to know is there. Yes SA-MP has been taken over and no there will be no more updates apart from important ones.
like maybe 0.2.5?
and whens the real argonath server with all out accounts n stuff comin back?
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as it said on the website there will be no more 0.2.5 atm as for argonath i dont know look on another topic
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I'll miss u guys nad Argonath RPG in SAMP.. :cry:
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when the server will open please i can't wait more then this :wow: :mad: :trust: :flame: :flame: :war: :skull:
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Guys read the server list for the temp server address :poke:
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where is the server list ?
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Go to the front page of the forums, its the top forum topic :hit: :poke: