Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Kowalski on March 11, 2007, 12:08:43 pm
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You know in SA are two big casinos: Caligula's and The Four Dragons. There are games. With these games peoples can win or lose their money. In the real life 95% of peolpes don't win. On the server I saw all 2nd player won. We should play as in real life with more realisik.
Casinos are the best place for money cheaters. They cheat the money there with glitches. Now Players can enter only with Passport. It gives a proof against new hackers and cheaters, but most players will get a passport and be citizen.
There are missions on the server. They are the MOLE Missions. You got an sms about a job. You can accept it, after do it and get your money reward. It's good. But if you played in a casino and you're full with money, why you will do these missions? You won't do them. Why? You're rich. You don't need more money. This ruin the RPG.
The admins must to check players who enter in a casino. It's not easy I think.
I want to see Casinos closed. Please help me to close them! Vote Yes in the poll.
Non-Casino Group
Kowalski
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We should not close the casinos because, I was watching RON give a price on a house, 230k + Interior.If you did the mole missions you would only get 5k a time , but in casinos , you could make that amount of money much quicker.
Gr4nt ;)
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Yeah, and in real life you can get the money for a 230k house in a week?
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Yeah, and in real life you can get the money for a 230k house in a week?
It depends how long you gamble for. D)
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Our servers never were oriented on abusing scripts to get the money...
Obviously, sitting in casino the whole day is a simple abuse...
In real life 1 of million players can win something. In SAMP everyone can win millions.
We were checking how players reach the ammounts, using casinos, and found out - it is the easiest way to get 1 million in one day and even hour. Should it be allowed? No way.
I also noticed 50% of State citizens (even cops) are sitting in casinos whole days.
You like such roleplaying? we - no...
The casinos will be opened for 30-40 minutes randomly... So you still can play it... Only it has some rules, that you have to follow.
But the casinos will not be opened constantly. If admin notices any abuse, like player gets in casino every time, he can close casinos, right what I did today, when I saw abusive enter from one of the players.
This option will have all Senat (main admins, admins level 3).
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We should not close the casinos because, I was watching RON give a price on a house, 230k + Interior.If you did the mole missions you would only get 5k a time , but in casinos , you could make that amount of money much quicker.
Gr4nt ;)
think about MTA ppl made this money there too (right Kaltsu? ;) ) without casino, AND there wasn't GOOD PAYING MOLE missions, and here if a cop kills a criminal cop gets 500$, MTA about 100 so its much easier to make 230k here without casino then in MTA... so i vote yes
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Well, i agree with the opening times for the casino.
Its fun tough to play in a casino.
Maybe its a idea that the maximum bet is arround 50$ or 5$ so people cant make big money with it, but still have some fun playing the casino games.
It still can be abused with, for example poker where you get somethimes more then just the double of the amount you have bet. So you still can make big money.
To stop this, you can set a maximum amount of money you can win for every 24hours. Like arround 2000$. If the player has won 2000$ in total, he gets kicked out of the casino.
its just an idea...
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good idea i agree with you, but i think its a bit hard to make..
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I think the casinos are a good feature, as, just like in real life, they can make or break a fortune. Also just like in real life, there are more odds of loosing everything than winning, but so what? Surely it'll make for better RPG if a millionaire is reduced to nothing because he was over confident at the casino, and then has to build up his fortune again.
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only problem, here when u made millions with casino u wont lose it just take it to bank, cuz i think there isnt stupid ppl who will add 1mill wager...
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There is a win and loss maximum at casino, and if you know the way around it the admins get a warning, just like on money cheats.
To open limited time and close when people abuse is no problem. So I think the problems is solved ;)
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Firstly- I think the casino's should stay, they give an extra dimension to the game and allow players to advance quickly.
The MOLE missions are good however there are few and sometimes dont work. They could be more involved also with payment for more than one player.
I like the idea of casino's being limited to certain times- also the whole passport thing D).
Overall if you DO shut down the casino's a lot more money making oppertunities need to be incorporated into the server- and it doesnt help if the limo/taxi/bus commands are out. :neutral:
If you close the casino's - no-one will get enough money to buy properties or businesses - i think the casino's should stay :)
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The casinos will stay, but we have put the following limits:
- Casino's are open and closed by the Government when we want to.
- If you win more than 50.000, all money above 50.000 goes to the State.
- If you go under 50.000 the amount you started on, you are expelled from the casino.
NB: Maximum bet is 49999. If you bet more you are thrown out of casino and money is lost.
This to stop the casinos making people get too much money.
In beta the /taxi/bus/limo is restored. Also the broken mission of stealing cars is working.
If in test the /taxi does not crash the server we will put the update.
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We got a lot of complains from broken players...
Of cos they go to casino, risk and fail...
What then?
With the red amount (-50000) they come where? to the main admins... Admins have a lot of work with 30-50 players and here please coming complain...
Players do not agree that they lost and demand some compensation...
Right today I was dmed by one of the player who lost in casino 50000 and started flame...
When I explained him the rule, he attacked me, so I banned him...
If such things will be continued - I will not care what other think... If complains on broken accounts will continue casinos will be closed...
I do not want to waste time on every such complain and wait for money cheating...
End of discussion...
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with all the new rules Gandalf has stated here above, I think the casino's should stay. Good work by the way on the script.
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RON,Gandalf. We were talking with Kowalski, we were wonderin, wat if u close casinos FOREVER and launch the ID lottery event here too! its way better then casino, its good money too, no abusin, no glitch, pure luck. but one more thing, if there'll be ID lotter there shud be like 50-60k, because the server is now 50 slot, not 20 like in VC. but its still better then casino, nobody who'll lose money by this -> no complaining to main admins -> maybe more bugs fixed, more hackers banned, more stuff good to every1....
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RON,Gandalf. We were talking with Kowalski, we were wonderin, wat if u close casinos FOREVER and launch the ID lottery event here too! its way better then casino, its good money too, no abusin, no glitch, pure luck. but one more thing, if there'll be ID lotter there shud be like 50-60k, because the server is now 50 slot, not 20 like in VC. but its still better then casino, nobody who'll lose money by this -> no complaining to main admins -> maybe more bugs fixed, more hackers banned, more stuff good to every1....
Thats a realy good idea, I agree with Sajtfei, ID lottery please!
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I have the same opinion as rosskid, ID lottery pwnz
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but what time .. as ii cant get to the MTA lotto... how do i get to the SA-MP lotto as well so we could have a lotto at 1100 CET on MTA and 1200 on SA-MP and 2300 CET on MTA and 2200 CET obn SA-MP .. thus letting all around the world get there :D but... You can only get to go to one lotto on MTA and SA-MP you EG
1100 CET Mudggard wins 5000 thus Cannot compete in 2300 Lotto even though he cant get there
1200 CET Mudgard wins ???? on SA-MP thus cannot go to the 2200 lotto
You can go to 1 MTA and 1 SA-MP lotto per week
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Have you ever tried to organize together 30-50 players?
And I am sure - on ID lottery time there will be full server...
We already have experience with the party (35 people)...
Really - do not want to hurt my nerves again...
And such event will last 2-3 hours...
:(
About casinos: due to abusing the script casinos are closed untill we'll find a new solution... If we'll find...
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First I want to say "Thanks" to the players, who helped to close the casinos and were in our side. Also I need to say "Thanks" to the players, who played in a casino and cheated or abused. They made headache to RON, so they helped to close the casinos.
Kowalski
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"Thanks" to the players, who played in a casino and cheated or abused. They made headache to RON, so they helped to close the casinos.
I see no reason to thank them for that...
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Kowa's goal: close casino -> casino abusers,cheaters the reason to close casino -> Kowa is thankin them cuz they helped close it.
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By now you may have seen the thread started by me and then copied by my cuzin (although he was just trying to help).
After my mate won 180,000 on it i was used as a middle man to transfer to a different account, and i got banned lol.
I think the Admins Should advertise tha fact that they are banned, as me n m8s did not know, however realise now that they are quite unfair, and accept that they are gone for good.
Although, since they have gone there has been more added to the server and the good work is appreciated....
keep it up,
jcstodds
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Casinos are my life, casinos are great....
I love them, you wanne know my big dream? Own a casino in Las Vega$.
:( I want to play in the casinos!
I am against the closing, but I also can understand your opinon guys. I won about 300k in the Casinos..., I have got 50k for playing RPG, not very much :D . But you have also to understand that somebody can win millions or billions in the casinos in the real life.
One idea:
Maybe you can "close" the one-hand-bandits. On this machines you can only win.
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But you have also to understand that somebody can win millions or billions in the casinos in the real life.
And what is the chance for that in real life? Something like 0,00000000000000000000484592 %....
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GOOD NEWS!!!! - In reply to my thread about businesses, RON has implied that after V0.2
"We'll get not only business structure with its cashboxes, we'll have for every shop with the same interiors - independent interiors (owners will not depend from each other and steal cash money)...
We'll get the opened shops, that are really owned by players..."
"This system can open casinos as well...
But as we saw - even regular players are using money cheats and abusing the casino script, all casinos will be owned by the main admins of server... They will be the best guards for casinos...
THis is good news!! ! to read the full update follow the link below!- D)
http://www.argonathrpg.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=8
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I think the casinos should be opened for entrance (but not playable). It could still be good for roleplay.