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Title: IC Flaming
Post by: Saint on July 11, 2008, 02:21:25 pm
I think that IC flaming should be allowed, cause its RP, when im RPing, it would have been better to say 'Fuck off!!" than say "Leave!!", and its onlt RPing, its not directed personally to the person.
So i think it should be allowed.

And if someone disagrees with me, i would like to know why.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: James_Hunter on July 11, 2008, 02:40:58 pm
I disagree, but agree, I think it should be permitted and tolerated to a certain point, if your character is mexican for example 'Pendicho' meaning 'd**k head', they say that a lot, it's even allowed on TV before 9.00pm, as long as it's not an blatent and rude attack that could offend someone, but if you need to be able to swear and taunt in order to RP, i think you need to look again.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Saint on July 11, 2008, 03:15:46 pm
Ok, i dont need to swear or taunt to RP, i just think it will inscrease the RP.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: MasterNeo on July 11, 2008, 03:20:54 pm
no needed,people that pissed will find the guy he hate most and wanna RP with them.. wanna know why???


attempt to disguise hes flaming to the player he hates...
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: David_Omid on July 11, 2008, 03:38:33 pm
The thing is...distinguishing IC flame from OCC flame is like distinguishing salt from sugar just by looking at it...almost impossible.

Because of this, it should NEVER be used...flame is flame.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: adam_stevens on July 11, 2008, 03:49:16 pm
THis wont happen. People will use /l chat for direct flame to player and then as an excuse for flaming will say - i used /l, it was IC.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Inkognito on July 11, 2008, 04:39:09 pm
There is two types of IC 'flaming'. First type of it is a flaming which breaks sides and from IC flaming transfers to OOC flaming. Other type is whem after each line you type '(sorry for language)', e.g. You acting angry cop, who starts to use badwords /m Stop the car, motherf**ker (sorry for language). I will warn/kick/ban as each other admin, but I wont take an action for second type of IC flaming which is with excuse/apologise.
~Ink~
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Chill on July 11, 2008, 04:40:55 pm
OOC and IC talking ain't even allowed, if you use it you get banned.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Saint on July 11, 2008, 05:30:25 pm
Well, if that is the way it is, than OK.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Zun_Callison on July 11, 2008, 05:31:04 pm
Note: Harsh language contained below
Well , flaming and "swearing" is two different things , arent they?
Flaming - Personally directed swearing , e.g - I fucked your dead mom twice! Dickhead , Fuckface , e.tc
Swearing - Swearing shouted out not directed personally , e.g - Fuck Off! Fucking leave us or we will blast ya! , e.tc

Do you see the difference?
Make the swearing stay at one point , and dont make it personal , then it isnt "flaming"...
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: polopolo on July 11, 2008, 05:50:16 pm
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Well , flaming and "swearing" is two different things , arent they?
Flaming - Personally directed swearing , e.g - I f**ked your dead mom twice! Dickhead , f**kface , e.tc
Swearing - Swearing shouted out not directed personally , e.g - f**k Off! f**king leave us or we will blast ya! , e.tc

Do you see the difference?
Make the swearing stay at one point , and dont make it personal , then it isnt "flaming"...
he actually let see what is allowed and what not. :)
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Zun_Callison on July 11, 2008, 05:52:07 pm
yeah . but remember - NO "bad words" on public chat..
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Gandalf on July 11, 2008, 05:58:33 pm
IC flaming will never be allowed, as it makes it easy to hide.
This is exactly the reason why we feel there is no need for different signs like (()) = OOC.
Whenever you are on server you are free to talk as you want, and if the player you are talking to can not understand the difference between IC and OOC he should play more often on Argonath and less on other servers.  :D
Regarding the swearing, if a cop uses such language, he better have a reason. IRL if he tried that could cost him his job. and if a criminal tried, well he can expect a ticket at least if not some hits.
Swearing and flaming is never allowed in public chat (/p) and is allowed limited in local chat (/l). With limited we mean that admins will not have to take action if it is clear part of RP, and all players involved see it as such. If it goes out of RP for even one player, we return to the main rule that it is not allowed.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Zun_Callison on July 11, 2008, 06:19:03 pm
Note: Harsh language contained below
Well , flaming and "swearing" is two different things , arent they?
Flaming - Personally directed swearing , e.g - I f**ked your dead mom twice! Dickhead , f**kface , e.tc
Swearing - Swearing shouted out not directed personally , e.g - f**k Off! f**king leave us or we will blast ya! , e.tc

Do you see the difference?
Make the swearing stay at one point , and dont make it personal , then it isnt "flaming"...

Read there and you see the difference , mmkay?
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: David_Omid on July 11, 2008, 06:20:28 pm
IC flaming will never be allowed, as it makes it easy to hide.
This is exactly the reason why we feel there is no need for different signs like (()) = OOC.
Whenever you are on server you are free to talk as you want, and if the player you are talking to can not understand the difference between IC and OOC he should play more often on Argonath and less on other servers.  :D
Regarding the swearing, if a cop uses such language, he better have a reason. IRL if he tried that could cost him his job. and if a criminal tried, well he can expect a ticket at least if not some hits.
Swearing and flaming is never allowed in public chat (/p) and is allowed limited in local chat (/l). With limited we mean that admins will not have to take action if it is clear part of RP, and all players involved see it as such. If it goes out of RP for even one player, we return to the main rule that it is not allowed.


QFT, it will never happen
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Poncho on July 11, 2008, 06:43:18 pm
I have seen IC flaming by gangs recently, some of the members taking part are admins...so I'm not sure what to think at the moment, I know it's not allowed but it happens...
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on July 11, 2008, 07:16:40 pm
I have seen IC flaming by gangs recently, some of the members taking part are admins...so I'm not sure what to think at the moment, I know it's not allowed but it happens...

yeah what the hell is with that....ive seen it to.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Gandalf on July 11, 2008, 07:17:43 pm
yeah what the hell is with that....ive seen it to.
You know where to report, right ?
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Chris5170 on July 11, 2008, 08:00:09 pm
I have seen IC flaming by gangs recently, some of the members taking part are admins...so I'm not sure what to think at the moment, I know it's not allowed but it happens...
I can name 10 people i saw in the last 1-2 days IC flaming for at least half an hour.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on July 11, 2008, 08:24:13 pm
You know where to report, right ?

im not saying im against it im saying ive seen it.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Gandalf on July 11, 2008, 08:42:11 pm
im not saying im against it im saying ive seen it.
Either you decide it was against the rules and put a report, or you get a warning for trying to make the admin team look like breaking rules.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on July 11, 2008, 08:53:30 pm
i dont have any evidence  :neutral: i dont screen shot everything i see.......

and two ive sent in acouple of reports for other things but it keeps sending back an "error" when i send it....

but i will shut my mouth now  :skull:
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Gandalf on July 11, 2008, 09:33:20 pm
i dont have any evidence  :neutral: i dont screen shot everything i see.......

and two ive sent in acouple of reports for other things but it keeps sending back an "error" when i send it....

but i will shut my mouth now  :skull:
The error is because one of the mail accounts has become invalid. But the reports were received.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Saint on July 12, 2008, 12:04:32 pm
OK, if its so, lock this topic or something, but i just say "Fu** off!" in RP, and thats all, im not swearing, but sometimes i can say Fata$$ only to someone who has is skin fat.
Title: Re: IC Flaming
Post by: Trobby888 on July 12, 2008, 12:47:18 pm
IC Flaming was never allowed because it was one of the reasons which lead to people starting a flame war on main chat. If we allowed everyone to use all those swear words to flame each other, we would end up people assuming it is ok to start using this type of language in main chat.

I don't understand why we need such language to RP. Yes, it happens in real life a lot, but we can still RP with just normal and non-Vulgate language.
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