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Title: Votekick
Post by: JDC on July 15, 2008, 12:12:56 pm
It'd be nice if there was a !votekick command like in MTA:VC because in VC:MP, people flame while no admins are online. Uber aka JOCIKA still flames like during his days in the MTA:VC, but we cant kick him. Same with DMers.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Dexter on July 15, 2008, 04:27:20 pm
I think it will be good. We have less admins than in MTA VC. It can be abusing but if MTA VC can handle it, VCMP can too
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Call_me_Dad on July 15, 2008, 06:06:29 pm
it should be like 10 votes  :neutral:
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Kessu on July 15, 2008, 08:39:57 pm
This one has same "bad" sides than temporary admins... Rulebreakers/hackers can abuse this one too.. :(
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Klaus on July 15, 2008, 10:23:02 pm
This one has same "bad" sides than temporary admins... Rulebreakers/hackers can abuse this one too.. :(

As far as I know it works well in MTAVC so why not?
Oh and Uber is permanently banned so he cant be JOCIKA
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on July 16, 2008, 11:47:16 am
Klaus, Uber is JOCIKA. I feel it, I know it, I... I... beh, I just KNOW he IS JOCIKA.

1. !ce said that JOCIKA's IP leads back to Uber.
2. Talks EXACTLY like Uber.
3. Lies a LOT, just like Uber.
4. Has the most pathetic excuses and means of hiding his identity
 eg: "Uber dont own a house, I do."
5. He went... sorry... ban evaded on the MTA:VC server and admitted that he was Uber.
6. DMs like Uber does when he gets mad

Klaus, I know Uber a lot. I've played mind games on him and I just know the JOCIKA is Uber.

VCMP SERIOUSLY needs a !votekick command. Mark my words!

I've been on VCMP a lot of times when there were no admins online, and I saw quite a lot of interesting exotic things like what children see when they go to the zoo. I've seen Rademon money cheating, hacking, and ban evading, lots of people DMing, lots of hackers, lots of flaming, and many more. And look, if the !votekick needs 10 votes and theres 5 sensible player and one rulebreaking retard, hows it gonna work. Notice that rulebreakers are taken care of more on MTA:VC then they are in VC:MP.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: [TAC]Hitman on July 21, 2008, 04:33:54 pm
I agree.. a votekick would be nice, rademon is a big problem on VCMP, he changes his account name alot, and DM's / Hack and money cheats ALOT. I think he owns Cams Can openers :o

It should be reduced to like 4 votes, because DMers dont usually have 4 allies/friends online to use it and there are usually 4 sensible players online
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: {DB}Taxi on July 21, 2008, 08:12:18 pm
it should be like 10 votes  :neutral:
Usually there are not over ten players, only in certain times of the day. And if there are, then there are still some people who don't talk and react when You call him/her...
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on July 22, 2008, 01:12:17 pm
I agree.. a votekick would be nice, rademon is a big problem on VCMP, he changes his account name alot, and DM's / Hack and money cheats ALOT. I think he owns Cams Can openers :o

It should be reduced to like 4 votes, because DMers dont usually have 4 allies/friends online to use it and there are usually 4 sensible players online

I agree, Rademon needs a subnet.

My point is that we need a votekick for VC:MP because when there are no admins online and DMers/Flamers/Hackers/Cheaters come online, we just watch powerlessly. Sure, the admins will come to save our skins from them sometime, but during the wait, damage is done. VC:MP desperately needs a votekick.

-[AK]JDCdes
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Hellrocker on July 22, 2008, 06:00:35 pm
I agree, Rademon needs a subnet.

My point is that we need a votekick for VC:MP because when there are no admins online and DMers/Flamers/Hackers/Cheaters come online, we just watch powerlessly. Sure, the admins will come to save our skins from them sometime, but during the wait, damage is done. VC:MP desperately needs a votekick.

-[AK]JDCdes

I agree with ya there! With a votekick payers could kick DMers/Flamers/Hackers/Cheaters when an admin is not there. I think this would make it easy for everyone.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Green-Eye on July 23, 2008, 08:07:55 am
It would save the Admins alot of time, for when there not online the erver can deal wth it it self. Plus we would not have to bother our busy Admins when something is wrong. The vote kick does  have dis-advantages though, because a noob coulduse it to get rid of someone they don't like.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on July 23, 2008, 01:11:21 pm
Yes, but advantages of this outweigh the disadvantages in this scenario. Also, the admins wouldnt be exactly happy if they keep being MSN'ed "HELP! Theres *insert whatever here.* on the VCMP server! come on AT ONCE!! HELP!!!" a lot of times would they.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Hellrocker on July 23, 2008, 03:39:44 pm
Everything has it's advantages and disadvantages! Easy for Admins, but what if people gang up on you and kick you out. Thats no fun  :(
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Call_me_Dad on July 23, 2008, 03:42:38 pm
Everything has it's advantages and disadvantages! Easy for Admins, but what if people gang up on you and kick you out. Thats no fun  :(
thats why i said 10 votes  :neutral:
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Hellrocker on July 23, 2008, 03:51:52 pm
10, it ought to be 20, why are there only 10. JK, 10 does sound like a good number, but thay could still gang up on you but the chances are low.

PS: Don't give me that  :neutral: I kno that  :mad: is next so, just calm. Breath, in - out.  Now you feel  like :D
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Call_me_Dad on July 23, 2008, 05:47:19 pm
lol  :rofl:
10, it ought to be 20, why are there only 10. JK, 10 does sound like a good number, but thay could still gang up on you but the chances are low.

PS: Don't give me that  :neutral: I kno that  :mad: is next so, just calm. Breath, in - out.  Now you feel  like :D

hard for 10 members to gang up, no one is getting a battalion to argonath  :trip:
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Green-Eye on July 23, 2008, 06:56:02 pm
Well the Admins do have other things to do, so i think a vote-kick sonds reasonable.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Hellrocker on July 23, 2008, 10:08:49 pm
lol  :rofl:
hard for 10 members to gang up, no one is getting a battalion to argonath  :trip:

I see, but it could happen. Overall something like this would be great to have DMer's won't stand a chance against us!
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: [TAC]Hitman on July 23, 2008, 11:35:41 pm
Yeah, would also warn people who havent read the rules they are doing something wrong, so they stop doing it by stopping them/Kicking them :roll:
And kick the damn DMers/Hackers  :flame:
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on July 24, 2008, 11:32:23 am
Most rulebreakers would stop rulebreaking or would leave Argonath because they'd get pissed from too much kicking by sensible members, and thats a good thing in this scenario.

Well the Admins do have other things to do, so i think a vote-kick sonds reasonable.

Yea, Admins got other things to do, like script, moderate forums, eat, starbucks, etc.
Admins are people too, not robots.

And helplessly watching rulebreakers do their thing on the server isnt exactly a nice thing.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Hellrocker on July 24, 2008, 05:04:36 pm
Most rulebreakers would stop rulebreaking or would leave Argonath because they'd get pissed from too much kicking by sensible members, and thats a good thing in this scenario.

Yea, Admins got other things to do, like script, moderate forums, eat, starbucks, etc.
Admins are people too, not robots.

And helplessly watching rulebreakers do their thing on the server isnt exactly a nice thing.

Yeah, would also warn people who havent read the rules they are doing something wrong, so they stop doing it by stopping them/Kicking them :roll:
And kick the damn DMers/Hackers  :flame:

There's nothing more anyonying than Hackers!
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Call_me_Dad on July 24, 2008, 06:13:20 pm
There's nothing more anyonying than Hackers!
There are....
Spammers and flamers  :evil:
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Xeonon on July 24, 2008, 06:53:44 pm
Dad is right. There is much more then hackers.  :eek:
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Hellrocker on July 25, 2008, 12:26:20 am
There are....
Spammers and flamers  :evil:

OK one question, what exactly is a flamer? I know it something bad hats all.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on July 25, 2008, 12:16:39 pm
Flamers are magical fairies with pink wings who spew fire out of their mouths. :lol:

Of course im joking, a flamer is someone who insults people. Flaming means insulting or verbally harassing other people online. In short= Cyber-Bullying.

Example:

{VCR}Uber: Wanna join street race?
Fallen_Angel: Nah, I dont drive well.
{VCR}Uber: you're a sissy <-- Example of a Flame
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Hellrocker on July 25, 2008, 05:09:41 pm
Flamers are magical fairies with pink wings who spew fire out of their mouths. :lol:

Of course im joking, a flamer is someone who insults people. Flaming means insulting or verbally harassing other people online. In short= Cyber-Bullying.

Ok thanks! I will have to watch out for them.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Green-Eye on July 28, 2008, 12:10:11 am
I ththe Vote-Kick is good because TDC is right, there humans and not Computers. They try to keep Hackers, Deatchmatchers, Flmaers and Rule Breakers from ruining other peoples fun. Sometimes i think we take the Admins for granted and dont take time to say: Thank-You! If there is a vote-kick i think it would save our admins on Argonath alot of time.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on July 28, 2008, 03:47:51 pm
Yes, Admins have lives too. Imagine if you were an admin then you're eating donuts when your MSN pops up with "HELP! thars DMz0rs on VCMP serv0r! c0m pls!" all the time, you wouldnt be too happy, wouldnt you?
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: solidje on July 28, 2008, 04:59:15 pm
Imagine if you were an admin then you're eating donuts when your MSN pops up with "HELP! thars DMz0rs on VCMP serv0r!

It happend sometimes  :D
But I don't care..
glad to help
 :D
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Hellrocker on July 28, 2008, 05:37:19 pm
It happend sometimes  :D
But I don't care..
glad to help
 :D

It would be a pain in the ass if it happened every thirdy seconds, though.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Green-Eye on July 30, 2008, 02:23:49 am
Yes true but the again your always telling us to IM or PM you when there is something wrong. But i do understand how annoying it can be, im just glad that matter how annoyed the Admins are always willing to help. Thats what makes Argonath #1! W00t!

 :ps: Screw the guys in the RM server who call our admins names!
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Hellrocker on July 30, 2008, 06:23:59 am
Yes true but the again your always telling us to IM or PM you when there is something wrong. But i do understand how annoying it can be, im just glad that matter how annoyed the Admins are always willing to help. Thats what makes Argonath #1! W00t!

 :ps: Screw the guys in the RM server who call our admins names!

Agreed, a men to that!
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Green-Eye on July 30, 2008, 10:45:58 pm
They treat all Argonath players like shit, the kill tem using the Admin controls or mute them or freeze them. They do all kinds of shit just because we are from ArgonathRPG, they even wanted my clan [EAF] to move to there server and i dis-agreed. I told them that [EAF] was created in the ArgonathRPG and tahts wher it stays.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Klaus on July 31, 2008, 05:15:04 pm
=RM= will never be forgiven for what they did on our server
We don't like them they don't like us
Now can we stop going off topic please and go back to what this topic is about
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Green-Eye on August 01, 2008, 03:31:06 am
=RM= will never be forgiven for what they did on our server
We don't like them they don't like us
Now can we stop going off topic please and go back to what this topic is about

Word!
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on August 02, 2008, 07:32:53 am
Okay now here comes the question.

Is there going to be a much-needed votekick put in VCMP or no?
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Call_me_Dad on August 02, 2008, 04:27:05 pm
Okay now here comes the question.

Is there going to be a much-needed votekick put in VCMP or no?
maybe yes, maybe no...

most certainly......yes  :D
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Green-Eye on August 03, 2008, 01:14:40 am
Votekick sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Goodblue on August 03, 2008, 08:39:25 am
it has been deleted on MTA:VC but I dunno why. :neutral:
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Call_me_Dad on August 03, 2008, 09:47:13 am
it has been deleted on MTA:VC but I dunno why. :neutral:
it could be risky in vcmp, but MTA?
maybe mta has more admins than players, so we dont need it  :D
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Green-Eye on August 05, 2008, 10:01:13 pm
I say we should go with the whole VoteKick thing.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on August 08, 2008, 06:23:49 pm
Not at all times admins are online. We. Need. This.

That goes for all 4 Argo Servers.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Kessu on August 09, 2008, 03:47:36 pm
Votekick can be abused by rulebreakers/hackers... VC:MP has a lot of players sometimes and there is lot of DMers/hackers.. Maybe we should take votekick maybe not let the main admins choose  ;)
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Green-Eye on August 10, 2008, 05:44:52 am
Your very right Kessu, this privleage has it's ups and downs.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on August 12, 2008, 11:13:26 am
In some cases though, ups outweigh downs. Like if its night in europe (morning - early afternoon here), DMers come on and theres enough sensible players, sensible players can beat DMers asses.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Klaus on August 12, 2008, 01:50:03 pm
it has been deleted on MTA:VC but I dunno why. :neutral:
Well think about
They obviously took it out of MTAVC for a reason
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Call_me_Dad on August 12, 2008, 02:15:40 pm
Well think about
They obviously took it out of MTAVC for a reason

Thats what i said
MTA has more admins than players.

A server with kinda 3 players and 5 admins doesnt need votekick  :)
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on August 12, 2008, 02:54:24 pm
Well sometimes the admins aren't on.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: jocika on August 12, 2008, 10:36:50 pm
BCKLUP u made me banned for no reason,im not uber dont you get it ugh! stop it! rigght now!im getting back at you,u will pay deerly for this,and notice it that im not uber.just because the !alias say im uber because not,if ure so clever ask submachine who am i exactly,ask him if im a hungarian or not because uber wasnt hungarian
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Klaus on August 12, 2008, 11:07:56 pm
err.. this is totally off topic
And who is BCKLUP?
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on August 13, 2008, 11:19:13 am
BCKLUP is one of my best and dearest clan members. He's a very good player. And Klaus, jocika is Uber, me and !ceboy know.

(If you don't know, Uber is a person who was banned from MTA:VC for consistent misconduct and fraud. He also has a very distorted view of life, where he is the good guy and anyone who opposes him is bad)

BCKLUP u made me banned for no reason,im not uber dont you get it ugh! stop it! rigght now!im getting back at you,u will pay deerly for this,and notice it that im not uber.just because the !alias say im uber because not,if ure so clever ask submachine who am i exactly,ask him if im a hungarian or not because uber wasnt hungarian

Also, thats very stupid because the subnet of an IP is owned by the connection that uses it and absolutely no other connection in the world has the same subnet. Uber also has a habit of holding grudges against people who do us a favor by trying and stop any bullshit that he tries to do. (such as me, he DMed me on SA:MP :neutral: )

If you want the full story on this guy you can just send me a PM.

Okay thats enough, back on topic.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: VendettaX on August 22, 2008, 07:05:36 pm
Im totally agree about a !votekick command, but it would be more fair if everyone (except the kicked) should be agree, if someone is not agree then that person is not kicked   :roll:
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: solidje on August 22, 2008, 07:19:05 pm
the !votekick would be to much abused..

like, there is a player ingame that you don't like and you do !votekick
and that player did nothing wrong...
you know what i mean? then everybody is gonna use the !votekick just for fun..  :redface:


Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: JDC on August 22, 2008, 08:20:08 pm
Well today there were DMers just when no admins on... what timing...

This is a big dillema, the prevention of abuse or the salvation of DMer victims?
O_o
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: polopolo on August 22, 2008, 08:22:37 pm
Why not do it in this way.

!votekick only for people with an minimum hours.
if it get abused, make an screenshot and show it to the leaders.
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Call_me_Dad on August 22, 2008, 08:54:36 pm
Why not do it in this way.

!votekick only for people with an minimum hours.
if it get abused, make an screenshot and show it to the leaders.
It is a good idea.
But is it possible to script?   :conf:
Title: Re: Votekick
Post by: Kessu on August 22, 2008, 11:15:36 pm
It is a good idea.
But is it possible to script?   :conf:
That is biggest problem in it :D
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