Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: Omri on July 17, 2008, 10:45:20 pm
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I also can do mistakes, but I do not betray people who trust me.
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I pretty much know RON i did let you all down and betrayed you but what can i do ? I was an asshole and maybe still i am but im only asking for a second chance. :(
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Omri, you remind me of myself back ago.
I understand you and i would be glad seeing you back into the Argonath community.
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If you want a second chance ask for one at SA: Unban Requests...
~~Grovyle :)
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If you want a second chance ask for one at SA: Unban Requests...
~~Grovyle :)
Omri will not yet get unbanned in game. We will first see how he does on forums.
But another guy in this topic has a chance to return to SA:MP if he wants..
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If you want a second chance ask for one at SA: Unban Requests...
~~Grovyle :)
One step at a time, i wont make an unban request ingame yet only when i feel im ready. Its already a huge step for me to get unbanned in forums.
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You lost my respect to you before you even got caught and banned.
Why? Because you was acting like rude guy and some kind a boss to all...
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RiX, i also know why and when it happend, and im willing to change.
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RiX, i also know why and when it happend, and im willing to change.
It's like, Yesterday I was Evil but Today I am Angel?
Well imagine situation, you beat up your best friend and next day go to hospital for visit and just say to him:"Sorry, I changed, i will never do it again"
All so easy...
Just I disrespect people like you...
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Your example would never find place in my reality, it was my attitude who needed to be fixed and i first realized now and im willing to change as i said, if you not willing to give me a chance to proove it then dont, I dont expect you doing it.
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And you expected Roses and Chocolate...
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And you expected Roses and Chocolate...
You are kinda funny ?, what you trying to get for me ? You want me to mass flame you and get banned again.
Sorry for saying this but dude, you dont got anything else to do than saying that BS ?
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You are kinda funny ?, what you trying to get for me ? You want me to mass flame you and get banned again.
Sorry for saying this but dude, you dont got anything else to do than saying that BS ?
3 posts and I already see how you changed. Enough from you...
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Omri, you did alot of things that disrespected the community, hacking aswell as other things.... And im sure you can change your ways
Even though you did these things, You will always be a friend, a good friend
Goodluck.
Miami
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Omri, you did alot of things that disrespected the community, hacking aswell as other things.... And im sure you can change your ways
Even though you did these things, You will always be a friend, a good friend
Goodluck.
Miami
Thanks Miami, that really meant alot to me.
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OMG!! Yes Omri, I so accept your apology!!!! :D YES THE FASTEST ADMIN IS BACK!! :D :D :D
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Forgiven Omri. I am probably the one here that knows what u feel like atm....cos i've been through the same situation ;)
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i never got forgiven :( i didnt do anything exept help another clan grow
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Accepted :) The times in MTA were golden :D
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You used to be a really great guy.. but then you turned on Argonath and flamed people.. disrespected people, and went on a rampage.. Someone as unstable as you, I wouldn't trust again right away. To be fair, I think you should wait a while.. maybe a month.. or two... and we can see how stable you are, and if you have actually changed, or are willing to change.. not just being bored without having Argonath to play on. I can not say I have forgiven you, you must convince me. However, I do not hate you. I hope to see you improve.
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Nice to see you back Omri, i hope you mean those words you said
Good luck getting unbanned ingame
;)
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It is amazing how people change in a matter of months..
Your flame, hacks, disrespect is not forgotten by me, and will not be forgotten. Most people say "forgive, but never forget", I am not sure if I can forgive you. You flaming me on MSN, going to another community which was based on hatred towards us, will not be forgotten..
We stood by you a lot, and I know you do not forget that. How many going out topics did we see from you? We stood by you all that time, until you decided to betray us, one of our most trusted admins and leader of a CS Server.
What made you come back? That is not for me to answer, but as far as I go, your luck has run out.
Gildor
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Hello People of ArgonathRPG
The most of you people know i did a bad mistake
EDIT : I understand if you dont want to trust me anymore.
What you did was not by mistake...you did it on purpose.Just like others...
Yes,i can't trust you anymore not because i have something personal with you but because of what you have done.
One thing i wish from you.If your apology gets denied i hope you will not start to flame again...
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I don't care what he did (altho i know what he did) , it's past and i will forgive you and FORGET what happened, i just want you back ingame.
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i have never liked you, ever since 2.1 and yes, i was extremely happy to see you banned. I do no believe people can change so quickly. If you never get your admin rights back nor in sa:mp or mta, you being unbanned wouldn't bother me i guess.
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i have never liked you, ever since 2.1 and yes, i was extremely happy to see you banned. I do no believe people can change so quickly. If you never get your admin rights back nor in sa:mp or mta, you being unbanned wouldn't bother me i guess.
And why ?
It is amazing how people change in a matter of months..
Your flame, hacks, disrespect is not forgotten by me, and will not be forgotten. Most people say "forgive, but never forget", I am not sure if I can forgive you. You flaming me on MSN, going to another community which was based on hatred towards us, will not be forgotten..
We stood by you a lot, and I know you do not forget that. How many going out topics did we see from you? We stood by you all that time, until you decided to betray us, one of our most trusted admins and leader of a CS Server.
What made you come back? That is not for me to answer, but as far as I go, your luck has run out.
Gildor
Simple answer, the society and the friends you got here. Im not expecting you to forgive me as what happended.You used to be a really great guy.. but then you turned on Argonath and flamed people.. disrespected people, and went on a rampage.. Someone as unstable as you, I wouldn't trust again right away. To be fair, I think you should wait a while.. maybe a month.. or two... and we can see how stable you are, and if you have actually changed, or are willing to change.. not just being bored without having Argonath to play on. I can not say I have forgiven you, you must convince me. However, I do not hate you. I hope to see you improve.
Rampage ?
I spoke with Gandalf also about I should proove how worthy i am at forum then later i can make an unban request ingame if I want.
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And why ?
there were plenty of things i didnt like about you, for example, last thing i remember was you warning me on mta server for DM when it was only me and austin ingame and we were practising shooting. ok w/e but later you spawned minigun as admin and drivebyed on me with it on bike. Fair enough eh?
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Yes Omri made a mistake, but he doesnt deserve a permanent ban. Hack is hack, yes it is always bad, look at all other bans, its excatcly the same, every people can make mistakes.
It is amazing how people change in a matter of months..
Your flame, hacks, disrespect is not forgotten by me, and will not be forgotten. Most people say "forgive, but never forget", I am not sure if I can forgive you. You flaming me on MSN, going to another community which was based on hatred towards us, will not be forgotten..
You are amazed for peoples react? Past is past, shouldnt you get over it, and also forgive him like every other people?
Just see all thoose people how happy they are to see him again.
Good Luck Omri.
- Your cousin [ALS]Custom :)
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John, thats a lie. We was shooting at each other me and you. Me and Austin was after you with a PCJ trying to kill you it was only for FUN and as i remembered you had fun. But enough of that im just here to say Sorry to you guys and if you wont accept it then why post here ? You think its easy to be in this place ?
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Custom, I understand that there is bias, as you are Omri's cousin.
You do not know what went on in the admins chat, so you are missing a lot of the story.
Omri was a Argonath Main Admin, SA:MP admin and CS 1.6 Owner. How can you say that the past is the past and we should get over it? It takes a lot of time to get over something like this, knowing one of our closest and trusted developers hacked and flamed us, leaving us thinking what went wRONg.
I am giving my opinion, on what I believe, and what I believe should happen, just like everybody else. Do not be so quick to judge those who are against, to those who are for. ;)
Gildor
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I see your point, but im not saying this as Omri's cousin, I mean it, and I dont think im the only one this think on that way...
I know him in Real Life, and I know exactly how he feels about this...
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Omri just learn't a life lesson... Don't do something you will regret later on.
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One step at a time, i wont make an unban request ingame yet only when i feel im ready. Its already a huge step for me to get unbanned in forums.
Ok I understand that. =)
But still I don't really know if I should forgive you... because I did not saw nothing :p Or if i saw i dont remember...
But one thing....
Why did you hacked and flammed? Like from nowhere? :trust:
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the one thing that i didnt like about ur actions.. going to the people who has/had rights on CS 1.6 and asking for user and pass....
But other than that.. I do not forgive yet... And i do not trust yet.. Thus.. See how u do
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Its not just about hacks...
We always give second chance to guys who admit and promise not to hack anymore...
The reason is over this situation...
Also we hardly allow back those who flame Argonath and believe to every shit "our friends" spread about us...
Besides it after hacking on our servers, joining the community of those who were banned for hacks on Argonath...
And all this was done when we gave a 100% trust... Much more then many other main admins... You had fully access to the servers and sites, as developer...
This was the highest level of trust... The highest...
You did not pass this... What I mean - how can I trust you even MORE then 100% of trust?
So do not expect from me impossible things... All my trust I gave - you screwed it... I have no more extra...
In Russia there is a saying "I will not team with him during the war", and that means - you can be an asshole but trusted guy, and you can "behave" as a friend and betray the first wave of danger....
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What more can i do ? :(
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Don't think about what you can do, think about what you have done..
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Don't think about what you can do, think about what you have done..
Already did that EVRY time in 30 days while i was on my Computer :(
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Would you give yourself a second chance Omri? Think about that, unlike the last thing I said, which took you 2 minutes to answer.. If you really thought about the first thing, your first post would look a bit different.
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To be honest I would give me a second chance after I had my lesson. I dont feel I did many bad things in this community before I hacked, else I has putten so many HOURS and effort in trying to empress this community with my development.
I allways spend my time on helping than playing and I really think I deserve a second chance, i took many tasks from RON or Gandalf allthough I already had some and allways put all my time and effort to make it in the good time and in best quality.
I have been in this community for soon 1.5 years and has put my half computer life and all in Argonath i wanted it to be the best and the most famous community but i screwed up and betrayed you all, but seriously I think I deserve another chance but its not up to me.
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It's easy to lose all! but is hard to get something!
And if i remember you before you got kicked from community you wouldn't give to someone like you other chance!
I understand that i can't help community that you helped but I got something too... and I'm not going to screw all up only because i start to feel I'm needed here...
If i would leave I would just say, bye i love you not flame all community...
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As yourself, you will always say you deserve a second chance. Yes, you spent half of your computer life on here, but you also destroyed it. Bad memories stick more than good ones. If you built an amazing statue, with 30 other people, and you spent all your time doing it.. You put so much effort into the statue, and then one day you just destroyed it, would the people want to build with you again? You hacked, flamed, and disrespected almost everyone.. Including RON and Gandalf. If after 1.5 years, and all the developing you did.. How could you do something like that? You spent so much time, and then just destroyed it. If you can mess up like that with 100% trust and huge responsibilities, it seems like it will be easier to do again with no trust, and no responsibilities.
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I really dont know Maxy what to say to that, maybe I should wait some time to come back.
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I really dont know Maxy what to say to that, maybe I should wait some time to come back.
Rudest what i have said: "maybe you shouldn't come back?"
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give him a break :/. yeah he's done a lot of bad stuff and made you loose a lot of respect towards him, but he's making a PUBLIC apology. he was a nice guy and i think people can go back to the way they where. is this your 1st time ever doing something wrong? if it i always believe in second chance, even if it was really bad.
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Yea give 'em a break guys, we've all messed up majorly sometimes, I am a prime example.
As some of you may remember what I did, and that's why I was forced from this community for a long time.
Then after some months, I came back to the Argonath Gates and slipped an envelope between the doors, with an apology.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=15754.0
I said basically "You know, I'm really really sorry for what I did a while ago, and I've changed as a person IRL, grown up, and I wanted to ask for a second chance back in Argonath"
And they said back basically (When the final word was given) "We'll give you another chance, we will see if you changed."
And now I'm here, I don't even come onto the SAMP server anymore, but I pop in the MTA:VC server every so often, but still, I'm with Argonath :)
But yea Omri, I forgive you, and I hope others do too. And you'll find that some won't.
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Thanks Stif and Hayden I really needed that.
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I forgive you Omri. Good luck on your unban.
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Does that apology means no more ban evading on any of our developers servers?
Anyway, you wasn't one of my favorites watching your behaviour with players (flying high in the sky without seeing ppl on the ground), but in my opinion everyone has a chance to proof you changed your attitude not only to devs, but to regular players too.
good luck, Omri. ;)
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I forgive you, and i hope u changed from now on :)
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Indigo, about the ban evading I suppose you talk about Paruni and Gandalf found out it was not me who was Baaawla. I got unbanned ingame.
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Indigo, about the ban evading I suppose you talk about Paruni and Gandalf found out it was not me who was Baaawla. I got unbanned ingame.
wrong again Omri, but if you like to talk about it - lets talk: of course it easy to imposter names on Paruni, but complaining later about ban on msn (it doesnt matter with whom) - i dont think so.
My suggestion: don't start to talk about it, lets stay on your apology and don't hold up on the past.
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Stop reminissing, theres a future ahead for Omri.
Good luck :weed:
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Indigo, i dont understand you mean i should stop seeing in other servers as you named the word Ban evading then I only could guess on you meant on Paruni but you pretty much right lets focus on my apology.
Thanks
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I never really got to know you that much but I do agree your actions of the past were bad.
I can not completely forgive you until you can prove your trust back to the community that you have really changed.
I know how you feel however because we all make mistakes and I do about everyday. I always said to myself that if I could have 1 thing it would be to have a day without anyone bugging me or without me screwing something up. When I used to get angry I would end up breaking something or hitting on the wall or banging my head on something. Now I know that you should not forget the bad things but learn from them.
-Always look at the road in front of you and don't look back or you may end up in a crash.
-Pay attention to what your at now and what will happen. Think before you act on your future. And Don't repeat your mistakes from the past.
Good Luck ;)
Regards,
-Lava
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Good luck Omri havent said it but i wish you the best and luck with your unban request and i hope you gonna make it soon.
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when i used to play, omri was a kind & helpful guy. He made a mistake....everyone deserve a chance at redemption, good luck omri
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Whats the worst that could happen if you are unbanned?
nothing i suppose.....
Good Luck with your Unban :)
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Remember this is not an unban request its just a Public Apology. Im gonna make an unban reqeust when i feel for it maybe in months maybe in days.
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Omri, You're a Very Very strange guy, Remember that you time ago, Got MSN Hacked + In game account pass too hacked... And after that you start to hack? o.O
And added to that, You betray friends that trusted you? Such people like this will Never get anymore the trust from me...
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Spartan, i cant control my accounts i had a good password i thought and it got hacked.
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Omri, You're a Very Very strange guy, Remember that you time ago, Got MSN Hacked + In game account pass too hacked... And after that you start to hack? o.O
That wasnt his fault. He didnt have a computer that time, and he didnt have any chance to get connected to one. Beleive me, he didnt know that he got hacked before he got his com back. Some people know what im talking about here (long story).
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Thanks Custom, I did not knew you remembered it :)
But ofc you did as i came at your place to play :) HAHA
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Sorry Omri you wont get my respect back!
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I don't understand why you used hack in our server.. :(
So sad.. but if you need something im with you :)
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Sorry Omri you wont get my respect back!
Im not asking you to it.
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Thanks Custom, I did not knew you remembered it :)
But ofc you did as i came at your place to play :) HAHA
And I wont forget it :razz:
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Yep, Omri needs a second chance....he screwed it once....but look at me I screwed it twice and more....but u gave me chances......I think Omri needs ONE last chance too....IF he screws it....ban him....
But for now I take this apology as ACCEPTED!
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Everyone make mistakes.. And its hardly for Omri to proove that his changed when he only is possible to use forum... Im not saying that its impossible, but no matter how he does, will he always be trustful for me, and I guess for every other people that he have been trustful for.
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Well Omri, for me its quite simple:
Gain your respect back. You were a great friend, you teach me alot! but on the other hand, I hate abusers!
So for me, you can start over, start from the beginning: I would say, welcome back...
Greetz
- Tov.
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Your still a Friend to me Omri, hope to see you pop back in MTAVC sometime soon and say Hello to us all. Good Luck.
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Rusty, I will DEFFENTLY come in MTA:VC soon enough when im unbanned.
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Rusty, I will DEFFENTLY come in MTA:VC soon enough when im unbanned.
YOu also banned from MTA:VC? wow.
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Most of servers.
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You probs dont remember me
I was
BOOMJake
and Xavas.
I thought you was great, i just dont know why you used a jump hack on ARGONATH? you had commands to do everything and you just hack?
BUT
You should WELL BE UNBANNED by now, what is this a circus, theres real hackers who get unbanned every day come on.
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Xavas, maybe because I was a Main admin and developer in Paruni I did not get an unban before now.
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Xavas, circus is your home, here is not a circus... If you have no idea, do not post stupid comments...
Omri,
most of people who support you do not know what it is to trust you 100% and to lose it in a way you "handled" it...
Of cos you are happy for some people who are not even admins and have no idea what respect and responsibility should be on you, supporting you in this case... You are telling them "thanks"... It means you do not understand yourself what was wrong... Cos if you WOULD understand, you would stop their support and explain them "guys thats not what you think"...
For such people its easy to forgive you as they lost nothing... If you understand what I mean...
So please do not think that everyone who supports you, knows EXACTLY on 100% what were the reasons of our reaction... And do not listen to those who compare the situation with usual hackers... Or at least explain them why usual hacker is not the same as your hacking...
This is just a tip for you - even all server will support you - thats nothing for developers... So do not dream about all this support and forgiveness... To forgive you people should be at least main admins and developers...
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Aragorn, I know not many support me as well and maybe they never will after what I did, maybe it just take time to regain the "full" trust but im sure I can regain it in long time, I will deffently try. There is a good reason why people should not forgive me or trust me as I did hack as a main admin and that i should never have done as people was looking up to me I did not represent ArgonathRPG in the way you liked it and I.
And Yes I understand it but not the way I think you wanted me to understand.
The punishment you gave me was pretty good as I did some bad things after I got banned too and Im really happy you choosed to unban me in forums.
What should i say else than Thanks when they say Good luck and more stuff ?
If I still dont understand, then please help me understand.
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Xavas, circus is your home, here is not a circus... If you have no idea, do not post stupid comments...
Omri,
most of people who support you do not know what it is to trust you 100% and to lose it in a way you "handled" it...
Of cos you are happy for some people who are not even admins and have no idea what respect and responsibility should be on you, supporting you in this case... You are telling them "thanks"... It means you do not understand yourself what was wrong... Cos if you WOULD understand, you would stop their support and explain them "guys thats not what you think"...
For such people its easy to forgive you as they lost nothing... If you understand what I mean...
So please do not think that everyone who supports you, knows EXACTLY on 100% what were the reasons of our reaction... And do not listen to those who compare the situation with usual hackers... Or at least explain them why usual hacker is not the same as your hacking...
This is just a tip for you - even all server will support you - thats nothing for developers... So do not dream about all this support and forgiveness... To forgive you people should be at least main admins and developers...
Yeah Ron, the others dont know nothing...only Main Admins trust persons in 100% cmon what the heck are u talking about? Everyone knows how it feels to be disappointed by a person, in every way. So please leave such comments.
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Yeah Ron, the others dont know nothing...only Main Admins trust persons in 100% cmon what the heck are u talking about? Everyone knows how it feels to be disappointed by a person, in every way. So please leave such comments.
I did not tell about trust only to main admins... If you have nothing to say more but continue turn my words - leave yourself... And no, you do not know how feel a developer who trusted to other developer on 100%...
So you know nothing, and your "I forgive" is actually nothing... You have nothing to forgive him for...
With this i do not know why others are leaving comments, if they had no any connection to the situation...
So the one who should "leave such comments" - you...
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It seems as though you have not learned much Omri.. trust can't be won back in 4 or 5 days, at least not when you have done something so dumb.. You made an unban request already, even though you said yourself that you will wait a while, I even told you to wait a month or so.. You're forgetting that player support doesn't make dev's also support you.. Just like RON said. If you were wise, you would have thought about what I said, about what RON said, and about what people who were there, or knew about it, said. You didn't do it yet.
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It seems as though you have not learned much Omri.. trust can't be won back in 4 or 5 days, at least not when you have done something so dumb.. You made an unban request already, even though you said yourself that you will wait a while, I even told you to wait a month or so.. You're forgetting that player support doesn't make dev's also support you.. Just like RON said. If you were wise, you would have thought about what I said, about what RON said, and about what people who were there, or knew about it, said. You didn't do it yet.
+1
(omfg am thinking the same as maxy?! /me slaps himself)
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+1
(omfg am thinking the same as maxy?! /me slaps himself)
:D