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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: hell1989 on April 02, 2007, 05:39:22 pm

Title: GANG WARS
Post by: hell1989 on April 02, 2007, 05:39:22 pm
 I am proposing  these as the universal rules when you might start a gang war First off, LSA already declared war on Kerr's so called ''Mafia'', and we want to state the rules to them.

 The Rules
 1. This period is a harsh time for a gang/family, and you have to ''RP'' and act like a real person would act
 2. when the war has offically started you can only be ''your'' gang/family skin, no being a cop either because they would make money for your gang/family and during a war its hard to make money, so you can't be a cop during these times. You will only get one life, so you die and its over you can't help in the war
 3. No DMing ever, this is ment as a RP moment and will be fun if done in a RP manner
 4. This goes with DMing, you can't go to turf and start killing for no reason. You can only target single members to kill if you see them out of there turf.
  You can however, take a turf over ''if'' these conditions meet

 1. You take over a turf if you kill all the members that were in the war
 2. The other gang/family can take it back if they pay the other gang/family money. Say 10000 to the leader, max is 15000
 2. Only the leader of a gang/family can start a form, and needs a reply from the Rival. The reply includes a answer and if yes the members in the war with you
 
GANG WAR FILL OUT FORM

 Gang/family name: Example- [LSA]
 Rival: Example- Kerr's Mafia
 Reason to fight: Example - Killed many members of my gang/family
 The Time it lasts: Example -  23:00 - 10:00 04/02/07 This has to go with the server world time, so before you put the start and end make sure you look inside the server worldtime
 Members in: Example-  [LSA]ChainSaw, Jellies, IKillCops ,you ask your members upon telling them this is going to happen and list then here.
Title: Re: GANG WARS
Post by: Tuntis on April 02, 2007, 05:52:56 pm
Proposing what?
Title: Re: GANG WARS
Post by: Aragorn on April 02, 2007, 07:34:57 pm
We'll allow gang wars in version 0.2 SAMP, when we'll check out the virtual world possibility...
So gangsters will not be disturbed by dmers and will not desturb the citizens...

For now - forget about gang wars... That should have a proper reason...

Right now i did not get any idea what is the point of gang wars...
Title: Re: GANG WARS
Post by: Irw_Patrone on April 02, 2007, 08:26:45 pm
Hell your idea is boring. This is better:
If there is a area which both gangs want (the area shouldn't be bigger than the turf, which gangs had when they were created), they write war application in the forum, after other gang leader confirms it, the gangs will come to server the next day. One of the gangs will be on one corner of the new turf and other gang on the other corner. They can use any guns they want, but in gang war ,both gangs must have equal amount of warriors. If one has 7 and the other 5 soldiers, both can only pick 5 who participate.

Then one of the admins does a countdown 3... 2... 1... FIGHT!!!

The gangs have a bloody battle on the turf, they may not leave the area. The gang, whose all fighters get killed, loses.

The other gang claims the turf and may add it to the gang area map in the forums, so everyone knows that this shit is theirs.

Application for gang war with another gang should be like this:
My gang: LSA
Enemy gang: Mafia
The fight area: *a picture of san andreas map, where the turf, which they fight for, will be marked with red color*
Reason for fight: Need for a larger area, hate other gang etc.

They damnit kill each other and show who's the best, no need for some long-time single killing, lets do this fast and violently.

If one of the gangs takes a area, the other gang has a chance a week later for a rematch. The gang which lost the first fight on that turf, must pay the other gang 40000, to challenge them. Also the gang who was defeated, must sell all their houses on that turf to the winning gang.

There should be a admin watching the whole turf from a sparrow or some other air vehicle and check that no one escapes the area. Both gangs should also have one car available for drive-by, the driver may not shoot, but the other 1/3 passenger(s) shoot from the windows.

A gang can't lose the area, which they chose, when the gang was created, but all other won areas can be lost.
Title: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Kerr on April 02, 2007, 09:41:43 pm
Well, i have been repeatedly called a noob by hell_89, which is against the rules, and him being a moderator, well, thats just not right. He froze me when i drove the tank into town, thus allowing the horde of cops to HiJack me :mad:

I have aload of screenshots, all hosted on my private webspace, i havent installed anything as i use it like a FTP so all youll get is links to images. Please look :

www.etaclan.org

And also, screenshots of [ALS]Striker Jacking me.
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: hell1989 on April 02, 2007, 09:47:05 pm
Isn't it on rules that for reasons u can't have a tank in town? Its for Army and also kerr I know you  were heading to my hood to camp there and kill my members, so no tank in town because that is cheating
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Kerr on April 02, 2007, 09:49:12 pm
:lol:
#1 You cant kill with tank.
#2 Who the **** are you to tell me what i was going to do?
#3 Im pretty sure it isnt on the rules
#4 And what about all those ties you called me a noob
#5 And all the anti-semetistic comments you made
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Jcstodds on April 02, 2007, 10:08:10 pm
  Remember guys, it is RPG. Im all for the gang rivalry etc, but sometimes you gotta remember that at the end of the day, it is just a game, and it shouldnt get personal.  :flame: :wow:
Title: Re: GANG WARS
Post by: asky on April 02, 2007, 10:21:34 pm
A gang can't lose the area, which they chose, when the gang was created, but all other won areas can be lost.

wont new gangs have a problem finding a place to use as their turf in the end? would be sucky to have a turf on the mountain where all they can do is harass roleplaying roadtrips  :neutral:


Posted on: April 02, 2007, 07:35:06 PM
the [LSA] gang has already started their "war" and can't roleplay for shit, they all use their gang turf for an excuse too DM and they do that a lot!  :rules:

And worst part must be that everytime they get suspect level from killing an officer or any other civilian they get their gangmates too cancel suspect  :wow:

 :ps: cancelsuspect shouldn't work on murderers  :cry:

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Title: Re: GANG WARS
Post by: hell1989 on April 02, 2007, 10:27:57 pm
Aragorn I like the idea, but what if some comes into our turf? Kerr's mafia do that same thing even tho they somehow how that woule place brought in a matter of hours, I only have 75k and that took 3 days of playing, how did kerrls mafia get the cash to buy that whole place out, and by that I mean there turf
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Dave on April 02, 2007, 10:34:07 pm
i just sorted things out with Hell with his turf and he agreed to stop killing people there when they enter
Kerr you also must STOP killing his gang members and Hell has agreed to do the same

Dave ;)
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Kerr on April 02, 2007, 10:42:54 pm
i just sorted things out with Hell with his turf and he agreed to stop killing people there when they enter
Kerr you also must STOP killing his gang members and Hell has agreed to do the same

Dave ;)

We NEVER kill, unless we are provoked. Him saying he is the strongest gang in the server provoked us to kill his sorry ass in that stupid greenwood he drives.
And what about calling me a noob, and the anti semetism?
Title: Re: GANG WARS
Post by: Jcstodds on April 02, 2007, 10:58:08 pm

  Many of my allies are being provoked into killing and suspected by rivals. Seriously :wow: LSA's turf is a small area opposite to ammunation, across a storm drain.
  How hard can it be to stay out of a small street, which leads to no-where?
The 'turf' should be the area in which the gang occupies (with either houses or businesses), so i dont agree with the dming in the area. However from asky's screenshots, most kills are from friendly gangs (LSA & LVH), which i see as a joke :lol: and find it funny, and other kills are to rival gang member.

I  feel that the screen shots do not review the situation in very much detail. Lots of people die and kill on the server all the time.

 :ps: Dont deathmatch. I hate deathmatch servers because they suck. Dont make Argonath a deathmatch server. At least warn if on turf, and arrange a gangwar, dont force it!

Good idea on the gang wars hell D)
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Jcstodds on April 02, 2007, 11:07:01 pm

... Sometimes when you are threatened by a guy in a greenwood, you can only laugh

  I simple solution: dont take the verbal abuse seriously! You live in England? Dam! theres abuse coming out every chavs mouths, and they are reproducing, making more bad mouth chavs. Do you take it personally everytime?

  Just take it lightly mate, dont get offended by it! 
Title: LSA
Post by: Nighthound on April 03, 2007, 12:32:51 am
ok heres the deal LSA has been a pain in the ass.
FIrst hell (remove hes admin powers pls) they where cop and LSA-Cheeck Ramed me and blowed my car.
Hell started flaming me HAHA you suck,you suck my balls. etc.
ANd then he kicked me becouse i shoot one of them for saying AV=Angry vagina.
Do me a favor Warn all LSA players for stop flaming and behave.
Second i think cop skins should be controled. only few ppl could be cops.
I saw kaltsu giving cop training.that gave me idea too make only few ppl cops after doying that training.
think about it.(pls)
btw we need REal admins not admins that abuse commands.
Too hell that will denie some things.
BEHAVE.
SEriously
How can i enjoy the game if im constantly FLamed by other players just becouse im MAFia.

Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Kerr on April 03, 2007, 02:04:10 am
I got jailed Because i told him to screw himself after he wouldnt belive me i said toa  guy in local surrender im not sure how long i was jailed for, but i've had enough of his shit, calling me a noob, and retard. Over and over, i want him dealt with please, or ill end up saying stuff to him ill regret.
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: Kerr on April 03, 2007, 02:05:16 am
I agree, they DM like there is no tommmorow, Insult like there is no day after tommorow, and are abusive to all players, hell abuses his admin. They need to stop flaming.
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: hell1989 on April 03, 2007, 02:10:00 am
kerr.... we do not DM we are RPing a gang and I only put u in jail because you abused with cop commands
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: hell1989 on April 03, 2007, 02:13:29 am
 Kerr.. the guy said u just came up to himwhen he was in a car parked and suspected him and killed him and you didnt ask to surrender, no why would u ask to surrender in /l mode? It takes longer to write and I see no point of saying it in local either. I put u in for 200 seconds for that
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Kerr on April 03, 2007, 02:17:47 am
Explain why the fuck you think its ok for you to call me a noob all the time, and call others retards. I went up to him yes, because he was sitting in the drivers seat when he has no license :mad:
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Shifter on April 03, 2007, 12:18:30 pm
Hell as a admin you of all people should know the rules....I.E. No disrespecting, No Flaming and No insulting other players, u broke those rules by calling him a retard and also, by calling him a Jew you are insulting others that may infact me jewish, for all u know he could be a jew, any1 of us could be jewish......and also Jews can live anywhere and infact some do live in England....
Title: Re: GANG WARS
Post by: rosskid12 on April 03, 2007, 12:19:47 pm
Already been discussed, http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1394.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1394.0).
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: rosskid12 on April 03, 2007, 12:22:51 pm
I would be VERY insulted if someone called someone "Jew" as an insult.
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: rosskid12 on April 03, 2007, 12:23:59 pm
kerr.... we do not DM we are RPing a gang and I only put u in jail because you abused with cop commands

I think our definitions of RP gang vary ALOT.
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Tuntis on April 03, 2007, 01:42:42 pm
Kerr.. the guy said u just came up to himwhen he was in a car parked and suspected him and killed him and you didnt ask to surrender, no why would u ask to surrender in /l mode? It takes longer to write and I see no point of saying it in local either. I put u in for 200 seconds for that
Just cause they ask in local doesn't mean you can punish them for it. The shout and local chats are there for a purpose, and should be used (especially to prevent everybody from seeing "SURRENDER!!!!!!!" in chat). Ktnx.

Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: hell1989 on April 03, 2007, 02:59:51 pm
 I never called anyone a jew, kerr did that
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 03:36:21 pm
I can agree to this, Hell must be able to control LSA or it WILL be shut down by the main administration team, they kill people who go onto "their turf" but they have no rights to that area it is the Argonath Goverments.
Patrone has been flaming me all of yesterday when he kept kiling me on "his gangs turf" and i kicked him etc and he said to me " thats all you can do is kick" also i have noticed LSA abusing thr cop commands say if one LSA member gets suspected the cop one unsuspects him. We took action lsat night (Sharphis and I) and we sorted ou the turf problem. and now i am being called a mafia meber which i'm not and i feel this situation ahs gotten out of control and i want to ask th main adminto take action please as this is ruining our RPG.
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Kerr on April 03, 2007, 03:43:04 pm
And now hell_89 Car jacks me.

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Check the radar:
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Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: hell1989 on April 03, 2007, 03:45:07 pm
I took the car for 10 seconds then gave it back. I was playing around
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: Kerr on April 03, 2007, 03:45:15 pm
Dave isnt mafia :|
The turf thing is out of control, we (The mafia) Exist in peace, we dont kill anybody who comes to our area (where we own our houses) we just phone the police... We (Mafia) dont DM... We driveby, but only when it is absolutly nessecary.
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Kerr on April 03, 2007, 03:46:09 pm
No, you didnt give it back, you drove it away, at that point i left the server. And hell, we dont play around car jacking.
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 03:46:58 pm
Admins should not "play around" Car jacking is NOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES allowed except for cops catching a suspect. Fooling around causes these problems
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: hell1989 on April 03, 2007, 04:19:42 pm
kerr and dave please stop harraseing LVA please
Title: DAVE AND KERR
Post by: hell1989 on April 03, 2007, 04:22:17 pm
 I am sick of Dave and Kerr harraseing me and LVA all the time, they come in game and threating to do stuff to our gang when we didnt nothing to them. They come to our turf when we try and take gang photos and stand there we are sick of this crap pulled off by these 2. We just want to PR a gang, and also none of us where wanted so why did u come to our hood?
Title: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rules.
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 04:32:08 pm
I am moving for closure of th LSA gang, most of the main admins know so i on't have to say much , RON knows most of it so i won';t jhave to say much again. here are some screens of what happened look at the chat and the screens also moving for Hells admin rights to be revoked, when i went to their "hood" to check things out his members stabbed me and carkiled me, he done nothing to help my with his admin powers.
there are alot so...

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i will also move to the community mail if needs be but i hope this will be enough
Title: Re: DAVE AND KERR
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 04:33:38 pm
Kerr was being Ker but i was doing admin work. if you look in the forums you will see a courts case. have fun and oh btw i did not harrase i was just going there to see what happened to me and thtanks for the evidence when i did ;)
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 04:35:10 pm
I am not harasing you may find that  I AM DOING MY JOB
Title: Re: DAVE AND KERR
Post by: Kerr on April 03, 2007, 04:35:50 pm
Yes i also gained alot of evidence. I was going to see what the disturbance was, you know, residents complaining. RP. That or it was a police raid, remember before hell? And we havent threatened you at all. And you do a very good job of RPing, oh sorry, did i say RPing? I meant DMing, and car jacking and flaming other players.
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rul
Post by: Kerr on April 03, 2007, 04:46:14 pm
I also have screenshots of their constant abuse towards other players, DMing ect ect. I have expressed my views upon lsa in several other posts, which make it hard for me to think of aanything else to put.

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Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rul
Post by: hell1989 on April 03, 2007, 04:50:37 pm
 Now why do we need to be shut down? We are a gang that doesnt take crap from anyone even if you are a admin and think what you are doing is right, we only kill if you are on turf aka hood, we will buy these houese as soon as possable and why do you care if we call it our hood? In real life gangs take places over and call it there hoods in america and SA is in america so... I really dont care if you are a admin Dave you started it by comming in and standing in hood all the time and I really don't see the fun in it. We are Rping a gang and we want to stop being harrasted you may find it fun and all but we don't. This is a RPG server act like a real person would in real live ok? Thats what its for and that what LVA are trying to do but you cops keep on coming in your hood. I guess this is the same thing Kerr had to go threw with the mafia and I understand now Kerr. We just want our hood, and peace thats all. Futher evidence of Dave and Kerr harraseing us, following us for no reason and picking fights with us. Nice job Kerr you set your self up  :mad:
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rules.
Post by: LLoydbanks on April 03, 2007, 04:53:26 pm
ok i had enof of this things

1. kerr i know you want me and hell banned so waht did you do tuday we wanted to make a gang screen shots you you playd as a cop
 and a cop came to us and what you do you rammed our car we pleased youy 10 times to leave and you dident leave we dident have eni suspects all we wanted to do is make a photo
after that i duno i think 10 cops came and the DM has begun your damm cops supected us and shoot all becoz we wanted to make a screen shot we even mooved from LS to LV so you guys dont desturd us and this it what it turn into thats is the first time i got nervis when playng as admin

2. estuday i dident play i duno what happend but i was told that some guys Dmed day got their warnings gonna add some people who gonna look for DM in gang so there will be no problem and dave we pleased you aswell to leaVE FOR 5 MINETS AND WHAT DID YOU DO? START SAYNG THAT WE CANT RP REALY NICE
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rules.
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 04:55:08 pm
You cannot killon your "turf" no admin agreed to it Sharphis and i think Kaltsu told you that that is not allowed, but do you listen to them? Seems not.
Posted on: April 03, 2007, 02:54:23 PM
You cannot tell me what to do as it is not your "turf" no one will listen to you. what you gonna do then, wait, let me guess, kill them??
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rul
Post by: Kerr on April 03, 2007, 05:01:47 pm
Lloyd, i dont want you banned. I want the issue delt with, 10 cops? I left the server. You guys flame other players, repeatedly call us noobs and have no respect for anybody. You killed me when i went into the area and parked, that is not allowed. We (The mafia) Dont kill all who enter our turf we politly ask them to leave. Perhaps you guys should tell your members not to DM instead of joining in with them. Its hardly fair on the rest of the srver to be spammed with such things "He's a noob" "Yeah you retard" ect ect. Me and the other people in the server dont need to deal with it. I have told you guys, many times, the mafia is neutral with everybody, 'cept from =AV= Cause we are allies, we wont kill without Good reason, i mean very good reason. All i dont today was RP a cop, see what the disturbance was and i get killed, my car stomped on by your people. And just so you know, i didnt ram, look at the screen, i gave myself a cookie for the good parking :)
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rul
Post by: hell1989 on April 03, 2007, 05:01:58 pm
dave....... me and banks are both admins so if doent matter a admin doesnt have to agree with it
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rules.
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 05:03:26 pm
But you still don't get it u do not act admin like like any good admin should " leave or i'll kill you" is not admin like

Read the admin rules and mistakes

learn
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rules.
Post by: LLoydbanks on April 03, 2007, 05:05:13 pm
we dont want to kill no 1 so we mooved to LV what is teh problem why cant we make a screen shot are you jeless or somthing taht we have a gang  why cant we maker our gang fings dose it disturb you somthing you do your things we do our things we needed only 5 minets and look how it ended and who started it kerr

we want peace we wanna make our gang things and rp why you need to f all up we can rp make gang things police can stop us on our turf but why day dident let us make a screen shot when we had no suspects and we plased him to leave
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rules.
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 05:06:27 pm
I was doing admin work in Lv on your "turf" i got attacked for the what seems like the 100th time by your guys. Stop attacking people who go there, cops need to patrol there too so you CANNOT attack them, that is attacking without a reason and violation of the rules.
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rules.
Post by: LLoydbanks on April 03, 2007, 05:12:08 pm
Lloyd, i dont want you banned. I want the issue delt with, 10 cops? I left the server. You guys flame other players, repeatedly call us noobs and have no respect for anybody. You killed me when i went into the area and parked, that is not allowed. We (The mafia) Dont kill all who enter our turf we politly ask them to leave. Perhaps you guys should tell your members not to DM instead of joining in with them. Its hardly fair on the rest of the srver to be spammed with such things "He's a noob" "Yeah you retard" ect ect. Me and the other people in the server dont need to deal with it. I have told you guys, many times, the mafia is neutral with everybody, 'cept from =AV= Cause we are allies, we wont kill without Good reason, i mean very good reason. All i dont today was RP a cop, see what the disturbance was and i get killed, my car stomped on by your people. And just so you know, i didnt ram, look at the screen, i gave myself a cookie for the good parking :)

Kerr thi sis funny i never telld no 1 hes a noob i never flaimd no 1 so people respect me maieb your mafia but it was funny to listen on team speak how people sayd that you abuse commands all my friends hate you sorry but this is true

you mafia killed so meny peoople on your turf i renember when i playd as a cop i got killed out there
Posted on: April 03, 2007, 04:10:49 PM
I was doing admin work in Lv on your "turf" i got attacked for the what seems like the 100th time by your guys. Stop attacking people who go there, cops need to patrol there too so you CANNOT attack them, that is attacking without a reason and violation of the rules.
i think that you got knifed that was our mistake that guy has the last warning so it will be fixed
Title: Re: DAVE AND KERR
Post by: Aragorn on April 03, 2007, 05:13:28 pm
First of all - no gang wars on the streets untill scripters will not make a special script for it to avoid randome visitors and do not desturb the duel of gangs... that will be allowed only in version 0.2 SAMP...

Second - gangs are not organized to tell people to leave their territory... Gangs are organized for running illegal business together... Making money is the main idea of any real life gang...

Third - admin can visit any territory on a case "what is going on"... If he is not in RolePlaying, why should be desturbed?

Forth - and I said it already - while gangs will not give me the proper idea of gangs territories - no any gangs territories... Right now - all your territories are your own houses... There u can ask people to leave the house...

If you do not want to be desturbed - get all gang members in your house and lock it...
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rules.
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 05:18:01 pm
Have you seen Aragorns post in the Dave and Kerr topic, speaks for its self
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rul
Post by: Aragorn on April 03, 2007, 05:22:39 pm
1. Next time use attachment feature on forum - respect users traffic...
2. Now about Kerr's screenshots...

- You were a cop, and as i saw - there some of the gang members were wanted... That was a bad idea coming as cop and demand "I wanna just watch and be here"...

3. Hell_89 the next to you...

- Even if you are pissed off - does not mean you can start flame the players/admins...
- If it is your hood - does not mean you can start shoot everyone who comes on your territory...
- If you want to plan some things with gang alone, without randome visitors - use houses of gang - get there all and lock the door... Noone will come in...
- Yes in reall life gangs call their areas - hoods... So what? Did u see any gang in real life that starts shooting every cop they see and every citizen they see??? No...

The main admins will check this situation...
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rul
Post by: Irw_Patrone on April 03, 2007, 06:24:29 pm
Dave what u mean under 'admin work'? You work is to piss us off so we kill you and everyone else on our turf? And yes, i killed about 50 cops and 15 mafia members yesterday, most of them were the mafia guys as cops, or their allies. All this thanks to kerr and dave, who wanna be g**s and use their admin powers on us. Wtf is admin work? coming to look how a few LSA take a screenshot , and talk s**t? Don't be surprised if that turns into mass DM.
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: Jcstodds on April 03, 2007, 06:39:58 pm
  As an ally of LSA, i do have concerns about the whole 'turf' thing. Remember you have to own sum houses before that area is yours!

  Please stop this silly arguement about the gang warfare and deathmatching. Hell, just calm it down a bit until you secure your turf, and be strict like Lloyd_Banks, he puts his own members in their place, and other players respet that, it shows potential positivity towards you and your rights.

   Good luck with the house buying. Im looking for some property myself!   
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: chainzawz on April 03, 2007, 07:38:35 pm
I was apart if LSA.  I have since quit.  Yes I do agree that this whole "turf" thing is not good.  I have noticed many players that have used this excuse to kill people.  Frankly I think that this gang should be brought undercontroll by the leader or stoped by the main administration as mentioned above.  They have no regard for the rules and are willing to do what ever it takes (breaking rules) to get what they want.
Title: Re: DAVE AND KERR
Post by: rosskid12 on April 03, 2007, 07:54:23 pm
And, flame war ends......... NOW!
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rules.
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 08:31:34 pm
Patrone you constantly flame me for doing my job i request this topc locked....oh wait i can do it my self....to prevent further spam.

Dave
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rul
Post by: Aragorn on April 03, 2007, 08:40:51 pm
Wtf is admin work? coming to look how a few LSA take a screenshot , and talk s**t? Don't be surprised if that turns into mass DM.

Admin can come watch any work on server... And if that will turn to dm by you - you will get a ban...
Title: Re: Move for closure of [LSA] Evedince in th topic, DM clan, Do not obey the rules.
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 08:43:49 pm
And in reply to your post Patrone. You do not OWN that turf that has been pointed out many times by me and the main admins. You cannot kill in the area u own which u don't, that is DM , and if you cannot answer to a higher level of authourity , your leader, which i have noticed alot in your case, leave this server.
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2007, 08:46:22 pm
I agree. i am being flamed by there mebers when i freeze ,kick ,/die them when they kill someone who goes on "their turf". This was made into a court case already and Aragorn has made his guidlines for this gang.
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: Nighthound on April 04, 2007, 01:49:46 am
HELL DId it again.
I never seen so much lack of respect.
LSa cheech was fighting kerr and me(that was chating)
well the point is I was still and cheech was lagging like S*** and i saw him runing in the same spot.
then i see the message from ~HELL : *NH YOU HACK* *YOU HEALTH HACK*
I was wtf. i dont hack.
He kept saying YOul be baned night. youl be baned.
and then jailed me for 200 Sec
Okay heres the deal
THeres a thing called LAg.
its the most common problem too think PPL health hack or teleport.
IF you dont know the rules hell Dont be admin.
Besides you only check the ppl you whant (mafia that is)
me and kerr got dm alot of times like 15 times for a guy with a knife and you didnt do anything.
Learn too respect players. (BTW play Vice city youl see whats lagging).
Sincerily MAD (N.H)
 :ps:ITs LVA not LSA i apologise for Wrong letter (dont realy give a dam ppl know who im talking about )
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: hell1989 on April 04, 2007, 03:23:36 am
 ok but really can u dave and kerr stop it, u are disrespecting me and =AV= at the same time by this. This is a game, just play it right and have fun thats all you need to do. You guys hold gruges too long, can you use drop please? I will start being a better admin when you leave me and my gang alone
Title: =AV=
Post by: hell1989 on April 04, 2007, 03:25:51 am
 Something needs to be done about these guys, the memebers and just rude and call people out on the main chat when I didn't do or say anything to them, I am speaking of couase about =AV=Kerr, =AV=Dave and =AV= NH these guys will not stop, please do so or go to a different server. I got some stuff on kerr so far. This stuff is Kerr being plain rude and using a tank to kill

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http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w102/odsthelljumper1989/sa-mp-058.png
  you AV think you are so high and powerfull anywhere you go, and I ask to please stop disrespecting me and play the game
Title: Re: =AV=
Post by: Hafford on April 04, 2007, 03:37:29 am
I would like if it both groups of people could just find a common ground.. Don't continously bother each other and interupt all the other players time with senseless bickering, you both have stuff on each other, and the way you're going at it now is just prolonging the end of this, if you want to argue like so, do it on MSN, and off server, make a community chat on MSN, make it fancy, sell tickets... Just no longer on server, it makes both groups look bad, haveing AV swearing, and flaming, and having LVA doing the exact same back, it looks pathetic, it is a bad example to newer people playing on the server, and it shouldn't be going on between clans of the same server, that wish for the same thing.. or say they do.. We all play at argonath to rp, (Well I'm hoping) and it isnt happening with this.
Title: Re: =AV=
Post by: Australia on April 04, 2007, 05:32:02 am
I would like if it both groups of people could just find a common ground.. Don't continously bother each other and interupt all the other players time with senseless bickering, you both have stuff on each other, and the way you're going at it now is just prolonging the end of this, if you want to argue like so, do it on MSN, and off server, make a community chat on MSN, make it fancy, sell tickets... Just no longer on server, it makes both groups look bad, haveing AV swearing, and flaming, and having LVA doing the exact same back, it looks pathetic, it is a bad example to newer people playing on the server, and it shouldn't be going on between clans of the same server, that wish for the same thing.. or say they do.. We all play at argonath to rp, (Well I'm hoping) and it isnt happening with this.

I'm going on what hafford said, after all it's just a game :) its not like your gonna spontaneously combust or something
Title: Re: LSA
Post by: Australia on April 04, 2007, 05:37:07 am
Ok, I don't keep grudges, i get pissed off at people in your "Mafia" or "DM Clan" as it seems. there were 10 cops that went into your "territory" and all got shot at by your gang members INCLUDING YOU. I know its just a game and i often think in My head; jeez calm down idiot its just a game, and i know u guys are here 4 fun. why ruin it by shooting everyone? I really think you should control you "Mafia"  :neutral:
Title: Re: Im a "noob" and jews dont live in uk (According to hell_89)
Post by: Aragorn on April 04, 2007, 08:13:09 am
1. Hell_89, Flame the players does not allowed - not for players, not for admins... Admin, who is flaming, will lose his rights...
Please, take it to note... No rasizm, no noobs, no retards, no bastards, no "they pissed me off"... If you are easy to be pissed off - resign from admins... Kerr_Hechsmilt did it already...

2. Kerr_Hechsmilt, telling "we are cool gang" is not a provoking, and does not give you any permission to attack them or their cars... That is deathmatch in purpose... Continues it - ban from server...

3. Hell_89, even having a territory does not allow you to attack everyone you or your gang sees... You can start shooting ONLY in selfdefence, if you are attacked... I understand, calling cops "our gang is under attack" is stupid, that is why there is a rule of selfdefence...

But if you or your members will provoke people, like carjacking, swearing, ramming, etc, do not expect people will appriciate it...

4. Kerr_Hechsmilt, you can kill with rhino... And easier then it seems to you... Anyway - it is RPG, and driving in a City cop with tank, bombing all streets - does not fit in RPG style... That is why those, who fly hydra and bomb the streets get a kick...

5. Hell_89, Administration did not give any permission on starting making gangs territories and gang wars... Avoid it... Yes u can buy houses on the one street, yes you can feel yourself at home street, but it does not give you permission to attack people, who passes the street, walk on it, or admins, who came to check out - is there all right...

All topics about this HellvsKerr will be merged... Do not double post...
Title: Re: GANG WARS
Post by: Australia on April 04, 2007, 09:59:24 am
Very well said RON.  ;)
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