Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: WDoyle on September 01, 2008, 08:36:13 pm

Title: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: WDoyle on September 01, 2008, 08:36:13 pm
After reading this little interview with Kye, I believe that 0.2.5 is on its way.
Too be honest what they talk about Grand Legacy we already have it here on Argonath. He mentions they have 200-300 businesses and houses in testing we already have 638 last time i checked.
We are a big community and this new update will help us alot to increase your gameplay.


http://gtapt.planetgrandtheftauto.gamespy.com/site/?p=133 (http://gtapt.planetgrandtheftauto.gamespy.com/site/?p=133)

Enjoy reading :)
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: David_Omid on September 01, 2008, 08:46:06 pm
Nice read, thanks Haldir
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: The_Wolf on September 01, 2008, 08:49:32 pm
That's very good, thanks Haldir.
Kye didn't mention Argonath ... but he played himself.
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: polopolo on September 01, 2008, 10:08:14 pm
I enjoyed it while reading. Thank you for sharing Haldir!
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Omri on September 01, 2008, 10:27:24 pm
Yes thanks for sharing, but I doubt it will come soon. But maybe im wrong and it will come soon :)  :hurray:

Thanks for the news



 :weed:Omri
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: charz on September 02, 2008, 12:04:12 pm
F**king , i hate reading Long english Eassy..it more diffcult than my english exams  :mad:

Anyway ty
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Cross on September 02, 2008, 12:08:37 pm
Awesome that he also played the old Godfather mode, then he knows me  :D
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Sammir on September 02, 2008, 12:14:10 pm
Hehe awesome, I can't wait for it...  :)
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Gandalf on September 02, 2008, 12:26:22 pm
Seems that he should play Argonath more to get better ideas  :D
Crazy Bob is not the only server where you are allowed to talks freely. Argonath also has no rules about OOC and IC.... and we like to keep it that way even if players do use it.
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Specter on September 02, 2008, 04:19:45 pm
Yes Argonath needs more players and maybe that time they can understand this comunity and its importancy.  :alert"   :banana:
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Stealth_Killer on September 02, 2008, 04:36:11 pm
0.2.5 is cool because we can have players limit from 200 (of 0.2.2 R3) to 500 (!!!) and unlimited car spawn !!!!!!!!
 :wow:
 :bow:
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Proxan on September 02, 2008, 04:49:40 pm
I just finnished the reading ...

Very interesting...

Lets just hope 0.2.5 will be around the corner... soon  ;)
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Cane on September 02, 2008, 05:07:17 pm
I have a question, if the 0.2.2's player limit is 200, why do we only have 100 max players?
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: tiderman on September 02, 2008, 05:09:46 pm
I have a question, if the 0.2.2's player limit is 200, why do we only have 100 max players?
Theres not often theres more than 100 people on the server at the same time anyways..
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: TheDeepestFear on September 03, 2008, 02:57:23 pm
Thanks for sharing, Haldir.
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Challenger on September 03, 2008, 09:20:47 pm
wow that sounds cool...but too bad i won't be able to try it  :(
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Carbon on September 03, 2008, 09:35:25 pm
Good news  ;)
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Aragorn on September 05, 2008, 07:37:45 am
Thanks for link Haldir...

If he was playing Argonath RPG then he took ideas from our server...
If he was not playing Argonath RPG then he should try it not only old Godfather mod and Crazy Bob's cops vs robbers... As it seems to me there are only 3 original scripts of RPG on all SA:MP: peno1, Crazy Bob's (dunno if it is original) and Argonath RPG... Others are just modified peno1...

2000 cars on all server so all players can have cars? Impossible... Even our server has more players during month...
Kye should think about unlimited cars... ;) Argonath has this script but due to unsync of cars (still) cannot set this script to working mode on server...

500 slots? Impossible...
1. First of all RPG is not only about properties but about more rules for server gaming which should be handled by good amount of admins... With 500 slots full server it will be a mess for admins to check out all players on cheats, more work with logs, more investigating the cases about rulebreaking and cheating...
2. Many servers have 200 slots... And the ones which are busy and almost full - official servers...Among 6 official servers 5 are deathmatching servers... It means for all other servers does not play a role of increasing the slots, especially RPG mode where players will face with more rules...
If Kye has plans of RPG based mode for SA:MP, he should provide support of RPG servers...

Dynamic properties and bizzes we already have...
Bank balance? We even have all cash balance script, which is catching money cheaters...

So what can be new for Argonath?
2000 cars... Which will be sold in the first three months...

500 slots? We are normal with 100 slots...

Only something he mentioned with client/server possibilities... But that are not major things for RPG...

In total what needs - a very good sync... Then we can make unlimited cars of any types for every player who wants to buy any car he wants... Sync will also solve the problem of pickups (weed script was modified due to this unsync of pickups, fishing script is not released cos of unsync of pickups, houses/bizzes markers are not spawning perfect on server also cos of this)...

If Grand Larceny will work on it then it will be cool...
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Inkognito on September 05, 2008, 06:11:41 pm
I'm not happy, that Argonath was removed from Official servers list, as this server has own scripts. Anyway, we should help and support them, and they should support and help us :)
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: WDoyle on September 05, 2008, 06:31:24 pm
Grand Legacy is not actually a script but a modification to the server which is an unfair advantage to other people.
If we could modify the server internal scripts and we had alot of knowledge of the server then we would be succesful  but because there developers they can do what they want to the clients and server.
But look this way argonath has got this far without the use of crazy scripts that tells the client different functions that other servers. We use the same client and server as all servers and yet we have become a more popular server and with the new RS4.0 alot of ideas that were not published have been made.
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Aragorn on September 05, 2008, 08:13:50 pm
I am not telling that Grand Larceny is a script... From what I heard this was (is) an RPG project...
Yes RPG includes properties of houses and cars... RPG is also events...

That is why I said:

1. Increasing RPG servers on 500 slots will go nowhere...
2. 2000 cars will find its owners very quickly...
3. Without fixing desync no any 500 slots and no any 2000 cars... Otherwise you will see in 5 times more cars on the roads spawning from nowhere...

Besides it do not forget about events, which we have... After gathering 50 players in one place people will start crash from game... Its with the option that we do not use a lot of special animations... What if there is party with 50 players in one place, hitting each other, using funny animations? Already with dancing animation people will have problems...

I can understand the idea to increase some slots and cars, I do not see in all interview will there be solved the problem of desyncs... Cos from that problem come all other problems for RPG server like Argonath: properties, players database (main and biggest feature), money count, pickups, markers, spawn cars, etc...

However I do not think Grand Larceny will be the RPG project of SA:MP... If Grand Larceny would be directed on RPG then they would already somehow support RPG servers...
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Yihka on September 05, 2008, 10:37:26 pm
I am sure they will improve the sync with atleast 25% minimum.

If you have seen the old video's, you saw people standing on helicopters without falling off. This is a great sync improvement!

I have somewhere read (that interview?) that cars will be server refreshed (forgot whats it called), so when you rejoin, the car will be on the same place you left it!





If they add compability for 500 players, 200 0cars and many pickups, then I am sure there will be no problems with 200 players or lower, and/or 1000 cars or lower.  :)
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: [Rstar]Razor on September 07, 2008, 11:45:35 pm
I really think they should add these effects, shown here(the sound and the screen)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtBmtu-Atpk
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Pandalink on September 08, 2008, 12:22:57 am
If you have seen the old video's, you saw people standing on helicopters without falling off. This is a great sync improvement!

I can do that now :razz:
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Yihka on September 08, 2008, 03:04:02 pm
I mean flying helicopters  :)
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Pandalink on September 08, 2008, 05:13:04 pm
So do I :D
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Poncho on September 09, 2008, 02:37:52 pm
Quote from: Kye
The dynamic house system we have in Grand Larceny is the most advanced I’ve seen. You can create new properties and houses just by going in game and standing where you want the entrance to be, then entering an interior identifier to go to. Things such as assigning a virtual world, entry/exit locations, and pickups are taken care of automatically.

Hmm, where have I seen this "most advanced house system" before...
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: RobinTyrell on September 10, 2008, 10:39:30 pm
Hmm, where have I seen this "most advanced house system" before...

Argonath RPG FTW.  :cop:
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Altair_Carter on September 15, 2008, 05:42:44 pm
Omg omg !!! On the main page its said they are FULLY ending SAMP developement again!!! I cant belive it !! More details at www.sa-mp.com
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: martenest on September 15, 2008, 06:01:16 pm
You expect us to belive that? The 0.2.5 Dev. status is 70 precent.
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Altair_Carter on September 15, 2008, 06:44:23 pm
Its a hidden joke to show that :S
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: [Rstar]Razor on September 17, 2008, 07:48:39 pm
The new SAMP client should include headshot function, for snipers only.
Title: Re: 0.2.5 Sounds like its coming soon
Post by: Poncho on September 17, 2008, 09:43:28 pm
The new SAMP client should include headshot function, for snipers only.

Yeah that would be pretty cool, but hard to RP that you were just "injured and taken to the hospital" after that  :D
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