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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Brian_OConnor on April 13, 2007, 06:22:02 pm

Title: Removing the icons
Post by: Brian_OConnor on April 13, 2007, 06:22:02 pm
Remove those RADAR icons..
It is not so Rp
IN reallife you dont got a radar with icons..
In reallife you need to See them with your eye's so if you lost visual contact
Then you need to search area, if not find him you lost him..

Remove the radar icons:
More RP for:
Cops,If you want to ticket on the highway, then you need to hide your car+yourself maybe back of a bush? A rock? or else
Then they cant see you on the radar So its more RP and much more Chance on catching those speeders..++ in 0.2 The sirens even better :D
Gangs,
Others,
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Kerr on April 13, 2007, 06:31:04 pm
This aint gonna happen
Itll be like a ghost town, nobody will know where people are. and everyone will be looking for each other... :roll:
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Jcstodds on April 13, 2007, 06:40:26 pm
  If you want to RP that much you can turn off the radar in the options, however it can never be compulsory because of noobs and beginners.
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Brian_OConnor on April 13, 2007, 06:54:23 pm
  If you want to RP that much you can turn off the radar in the options, however it can never be compulsory because of noobs and beginners.


What you got in mind then?
THIS IS A RPG server ...
So if radar is off, You will get more RP
.

about that ghost town stuff, You think its a ghost town? NO thats why you got a cellphone to call each other == RP!
PM someone?

Think about Rp guys!!
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Tuntis on April 13, 2007, 06:58:15 pm
You're smart.

Iunno if it's possible but I voted yes.
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: GuFFy on April 13, 2007, 07:05:09 pm
OH HELL YE!!! i am in :)
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Brian_OConnor on April 13, 2007, 07:18:53 pm
You're smart.

Iunno if it's possible but I voted yes.

Dont say im smart...

I am dumb..

Nh :P

Its just because on other RPG server they always got the radars = OFF

So there will be more more more RP

YOu wont be able to find a Suspect anymore..S
So cops will do more Patroling = More RP
Suspects do More Rp because they wont be chased immidiatly

Vote yes Because this is Goin to Lower the DM! and Raise the RPG!
 ;)
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: pope on April 13, 2007, 08:41:26 pm
yeah brian i like this idea i voted yes....if it does happen it will be better rp i think
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Challenger on April 13, 2007, 08:54:32 pm
yes i agree with this ...this is the real RPG !.Less DM and more RPG.And more job for cops...
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: asky on April 13, 2007, 09:22:19 pm
it would be cool if there was no radar blips when the server is a 100 slot server and the cops might have to pay people to snitch on someone .. that would be great!
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Adam_Cooper on April 13, 2007, 09:24:35 pm
Since half the criminals are non-rpers they might hide in a impossible place or in an interior. This might make it impossible for police to lower the amount of suspects more than the number rises.
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: asky on April 13, 2007, 09:29:29 pm
Would also be great if players kept their wanted level if they quit / timeout =/
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Brian_OConnor on April 13, 2007, 10:26:32 pm
Since half the criminals are non-rpers they might hide in a impossible place or in an interior. This might make it impossible for police to lower the amount of suspects more than the number rises.

I got a fix for that.
Detective job, i posted in the Wish list..
Detective job, COmmand: /find [id] Then he will see where the player is.
easy and a new civ job ;)

Its more RP guys!
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Tuntis on April 13, 2007, 10:34:51 pm
Since half the criminals are non-rpers they might hide in a impossible place or in an interior. This might make it impossible for police to lower the amount of suspects more than the number rises.
That's why there need to be tight enforcement of rules, people need to learn that they're not supposed to get wanted and be chased all day.
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Dave on April 13, 2007, 11:03:53 pm
If they are removed i agree with the cops, but think of the admins too, they need to find blips don't they? how do they know if a mad guy with a minigun is sneaking up behnd them? they don't cos they have no icons and can't see him to have a chance to type /ban before he gets killed....also for citizens in a taxi, taxi driver bus driver limo driver how the heck is he gonna find his fare when he has no blips?
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: pope on April 13, 2007, 11:07:00 pm
is it possible to only let select few (admin, taxi, limo, bus driver) to have a radar?
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Legacy on April 13, 2007, 11:09:38 pm
I voted yes but problems would occur.  :neutral:
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Dave on April 13, 2007, 11:10:43 pm
whats the point on doinf it through script, i it to hard for you guys to turn the radar off?
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Brian_OConnor on April 13, 2007, 11:14:28 pm
whats the point on doinf it through script, i it to hard for you guys to turn the radar off?

because then your the only without radar and they are..

@ dave if a minigun kills an admin he can ban its only 100 if you die..

@ it is possible but its more RP!

There wont be any problems
If someone get killed by minigun admin just do /ban [id]
Simple
if someone hit on then nicer RP kill, Cops Rp arrest more so YES!
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: asky on April 13, 2007, 11:18:38 pm
Would be cool if all radar blips were to be removed and the only blips that show on radar are ambulance,firemen or police officers if they are driving a vehicle with sirens ON D)
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Dave on April 13, 2007, 11:21:08 pm
u can ban him before he starts shooting that way and not have mass murder by the time u press enter
also do u know how hard it will be without the blips? i have been on many servers and the servers without blips are always empty as people don't find it fun.
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Brian_OConnor on April 13, 2007, 11:25:20 pm
..

Uhm its better to have RP than nothing..
You cant Rp when Cops are seen on radar..

Try to do ticketing back of a rock theyw ill see on radar and slow down..
Not so Rp..

delete all radar blips..Its better + more RP

People will need to communicate more with a CELLPHONE!
SMS each other location.
ask a detective to do /find [id] (( when its made the job ))

Or just do /area [id] Then you find where your friend is ^^ but still not so RP.. let this be a Job for detective
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: SonnyD on April 13, 2007, 11:50:52 pm
i like the idea i voted yes but you could do it on VC to  :)
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Tuntis on April 14, 2007, 09:14:56 am
u can ban him before he starts shooting that way and not have mass murder by the time u press enter
also do u know how hard it will be without the blips? i have been on many servers and the servers without blips are always empty as people don't find it fun.
The people that obviously would need help navigating (or admins needing help being not blind) would get the radar back temporarily. (Or all of the time with admins)
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Niitro on April 14, 2007, 10:38:26 am
And how the f**k cops are gonna now where criminals at ... ???
And if someone calls for taxi, limo, bus and say his area, it means taxi, limo, bus driver has to drive around that area until he found his fare ...
And in mole mission : Grand Theft Auto, someone steals the car, but no one know where is the player whit car ...

Idea isnt bad, but we have many reasons to HAVE the icons ... !!!
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Tuntis on April 14, 2007, 11:00:14 am
This is impossible for MTAVC, but for SAMP I guess it's possible, and the radar could be restored when it's really needed for a specific player. Read all the posts before posting by yourself.
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Australia on April 14, 2007, 11:32:10 am
My opinon, I read all the posts and i think it would be too hard for the people just having fun, i know its RPG, But isn't that far enough? RPG shouldnt be about making it harder, it should be about making it more fun.

I'm Definatly not for this
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Jcstodds on April 14, 2007, 12:50:35 pm
Why cant u just accept is as a GPS? Take the blips off and keep the map in the options screen.
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Aragorn on April 14, 2007, 02:56:23 pm
I voted "No"...
From Vice City I remember how long we were chasing a guy without map and radars... That was just a chase game between us, but 3 cops could NOT find the object, even if he passes next street...
So that is stupid idea, if you want cops do their work and chase...

One turn on other street - and u lose him...

If you do not understand what am I talking about - remove map and radars from the single player and try some mission, where you have to chase someone... You will understand, that you ll never catch people without radars...
Especcially, if they are on bikes/infernus/banshee...
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Australia on April 14, 2007, 03:03:03 pm

Especcially, if they are on bikes/infernus/banshee...

Like Pizza Boy Bike.

Anyway Gaf, 5 other people and I did the same thing, i eventually gave up and left the game because it was so hard,  :neutral:
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Tuntis on April 14, 2007, 03:17:18 pm
I voted "No"...
From Vice City I remember how long we were chasing a guy without map and radars... That was just a chase game between us, but 3 cops could NOT find the object, even if he passes next street...
Obviously the radar would be enabled in police chases, and would stay on as long as the suspect is "near enough".
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Gandalf on April 14, 2007, 07:10:55 pm
Obviously real roleplayers could just ignore the radar blips.  ;)
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Kerr on April 14, 2007, 07:28:57 pm
But then we will be left with a ghost town scenario...
Maybe if it was a 200 slot server, and only LS activated, we could easily turn the radar off and RP :) but alas, we need it to know where the action is ect...
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Aragorn on April 14, 2007, 07:56:14 pm
Obviously the radar would be enabled in police chases, and would stay on as long as the suspect is "near enough".

Actually your suggested radar system will not work at SA:MP cos the map is too huge...
But if you want to try it on yourself, we can remove radars from second server and you will try to catch me as much as you want...
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Tuntis on April 14, 2007, 10:15:17 pm
Actually your suggested radar system will not work at SA:MP cos the map is too huge...
But if you want to try it on yourself, we can remove radars from second server and you will try to catch me as much as you want...
Isn't there something like !area in SAMP? That will help you locate the criminal, and once you get to an chase distance the radar will be put back on with all the blips. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Aragorn on April 14, 2007, 10:19:45 pm
Yeah - locate a criminal in Mulholland and go there to search for him...
Also can try to locate something like "Flint County", and go to search the whole area...

You can also sit in a car and only use !area, to see which direction from Flint County the criminals goes...
Also you can try to trace those who go in interiors (shops, houses)...
Cos from the map you can sometimes be sure, the guy went right to Ammunation, cos u saw his dot and its disappeared... Without radars you will never see it... and interior area always says "unknown"...
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Brian_OConnor on April 15, 2007, 12:19:46 am
aragorn..
This is a idea to make RP more.And DM les..
Look There should be a detective job. that does /find [id]
Then the cops get the information and searches him..
RP Aragorn!

And it Would be more RP if you need to patrol more..


if mole got a mission the Blip will come on the radar for everyone.
So there will be 1 blip when a mission comes.
The blip of a fightclub, car, or something

IT is not easy to script but its possible.
There should be civilian jobs like detective then.
More civilians you will have, More RolePlay, More Roleplay Chases.
More use of detective job in a chase then.

Aragorn you can just think about the idea good.
You will get more RP if you think about this idea.

Detective job will be needed so there will be civilian jobs
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Petey on April 15, 2007, 12:38:14 am
how about i get wanted and you turn your radar off, lets see how long it takes u to catch me
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Brian_OConnor on April 15, 2007, 12:40:44 am
Petey..
ITS a big Difference if you Do at options.
Radar off.

IF you try to chase with options radar off.
You will get confused.
But if the script get blips deleted.
Then you see where you drive. and try to hold eye contact to the suspect if you lose your problem..

Its how it goes in Real life!
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Petey on April 15, 2007, 12:43:29 am
i know that, but still, you will see what its like because u can only use Shight and your knowlage for SA, really i dont like this idea because it REALLY will TAKE 3 or more hours to find a suspect.
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Dave on April 15, 2007, 01:05:13 am
I think it has been said that we are keeping the icons....requwest topic locked  :lol: :rofl:
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Kerr on April 15, 2007, 01:10:12 am
 D) ;)
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Aragorn on April 15, 2007, 07:25:11 am
It will not make deathmatch less, as deathmatchers do not use radar as well... Just shoot the first they found out...

In the "ghost" city cops even will not know WHERE to patrol, WHOM to check... They can be lucky only in Los Santos... When criminal leaves Los Santos - forget about any chase, go eat donuts and wait when some car will pass you...

As those who wanna be wanted will not see blips of cops, they will be happy to find some of them and start attract attention (ramming, shooting, etc.)...

Those who wanna try to live and work without radars - we can give them other server - so they will understand that noone will spend on one chase more then one hour without even actually target there...
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Brian_OConnor on April 15, 2007, 11:22:49 am
Actually aragorn..
Is Cops blips deleted kinda Populair..
More ROleplay.
In los santos..
There will be more RealLife.
because Patroling .. that should be always just driving thats how it goes as cops..

petey..
I told you now 4 times /find [id] = Detective job..
Thats the way to find suspects in less then 5 minutes..
There will be a civilian Job + More Roleplay././
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Aragorn on April 15, 2007, 11:25:56 am
Patrolling???
With 20 criminals on line and you will patrolling only???

Wanna masturbate to find people in the whole San Andreas - we ll give you the server without any radars...
End of discussion...
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Brian_OConnor on April 15, 2007, 11:31:42 am
...
Ok discussion closed but still..
detective job?? /find [id]
with that job, and radar blips away it is fixed the shit..

Srry still i wanted to post it..
Title: Re: Removing the icons
Post by: Aragorn on April 15, 2007, 01:40:51 pm
I already answered on detective job... It is a smart job, that needs your brain working, not just type some shitty script command...
What is find ID? Find ID can any patrol car, if needs to locate a criminal...

Detective must talk to people, investigate, to draw a picture of crime, report to the chief, etc...

That is why Argonath administration will NOT support mass scripted server...
The server is for playing the game in non-standart situations with the different people (multiplayer), not just /find ID and get money for it...
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