Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: Kerr on April 22, 2007, 11:44:37 am
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An art forum or something? Somewhere that we can show our creations to others, i would really like something like this, and i belive it would further the range of stuff argonath covers , Thanks Kerr :)
Posted on: April 22, 2007, 12:14:24 AM
Just a section, please :D To make it less work for you guys forum moderators admins, ill happily manage it :)
Im serious i have some good plans for it D)
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Wow, a place where i could show off My useless creations in Paint.
Sounds good Mate :)
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/agreed
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Good idea, but not for useless ''Paint'' drawings ...
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i have a lots of things to show up D)
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Yep, good idea :D
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Woo woo!, just keep bumping it, eventually Gandalf or aragorn will see it, and will grant us the section :D <3
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I was thinking about special pictures galery on Multimedia site, but since noone was posting their art, I did not develope it...
Also I shall not open the whole forum section for arts... First of all forums are already huge, second, it is useless to have the whole section with zomg a lot of topics, and third - not everyone uses attach and not everyone even can add attach due to the size... That is why it will be total flood of downloaded pictures on all sizes...
You can start one topic, and everyone can post their art, if you want...
If you want all your pictures be in one place without attachment limits and with the normal galery of all Argonath art - I can open an art galery on Multimedia site with thumbnails, sections and categories...
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Users shouldn't probably use the forum upload; we just want one "sub-section" (or whatever you call it), just like this:
- Argonath Forums
-- Other
-- Art
Just like "Off-topic" is an forum in "Other". I personally see no problem in this.
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Me neither
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Open one topic "Art" and all post there your discussions...
Check the "Galery" on forums (menu) - why do not use that one???
I do not see a problem
As for the whole section with the art pictures I ll try to explain better:
The forums in internet made for discussions... And not for posting goddman a lot of pictures... In internet world it is a bad tone for the creators of ANY site, if they let such topic be on FORUMS...
The thing you suggest is calling on internet web-design language - image-galery...
Image galery suppose to be on the web site and not on forums...
Is it clear?
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Open one topic "Art" and all post there your discussions...
Check the "Galery" on forums (menu) - why do not use that one???
I do not see a problem
As for the whole section with the art pictures I ll try to explain better:
The forums in internet made for discussions... And not for posting goddman a lot of pictures... In internet world it is a bad tone for the creators of ANY site, if they let such topic be on FORUMS...
The thing you suggest is calling on internet web-design language - image-galery...
Image galery suppose to be on the web site and not on forums...
Is it clear?
The top bar is bulky, and you should avoid forum-implemented modules for such features.
Yes, forums are made for dicussion, not limited to discussion of other people's art. Forums would be an perfect way to show of your skills, and one could reach more attention if there was a whole "forum" (in the sense I described what I want) for new and new topics.
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Yes, i gotta stick with tuntis, you see these, rate the guy above you sig. It'll be a forum like that, but more of desktop pictures, art we have made ect. Unless you prefer us to flood the off topic area with these type of threads?
The kind of ideas i have are in-game cash awards to the best avatar, stuff like that. To make the forum more interwoven with the server in a fun artistic way!
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If you are lazy to use the forum features - your problems...
If you wanna make forums getting slowely due to the flood of database does not mean we'll listen to you...
If you want to post only links from zomg numbers of upload sites then I have no idea why you do not want the galery - normal image galery...
Forums are for discussions... It is not a museum of art...
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If you are lazy to use the forum features - your problems...
If you wanna make forums getting slowely due to the flood of database does not mean we'll listen to you...
If you want to post only links from zomg numbers of upload sites then I have no idea why you do not want the galery - normal image galery...
Forums are for discussions... It is not a museum of paint...
We dont want a gallery, all we really want is a plave where we can show off our images to the community, and get them rated / share hints and tips. And to mainly discuss our work.
Using the forum attachments will only kill the server bandwidth faster. Its better just to paste atext link, to another servers bandwidth (Imageshack or w/e) The gallery is cool, however, the house interiors are there. It doesnt have the same benefits of a sub section in the forums, eg quote reply, rate so on so forth.
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If you do not want a galery - then we have nothing to discuss here...
I'll not let to shit forum with the images...
And if you wanna just give links - open one topic and discuss it there... Like "Funny movies (not MTA) (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=20.0)"
Yeah, and learn more about forums database to teach me...
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we have a gallery..... :trust:
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If you wanna make forums getting slowely due to the flood of database does not mean we'll listen to you...
Flood of database? Please, what you should be concerned about is the game servers staying up if they're using flatfiles! MySQL is an very reliable system and an forum of this size doesn't cause much stress, and an art "forum" wouldn't cause any more load.
The image gallery is an limited system, you can't really "express yourself", and it's... just... bulky.
"Forums are for discussions... It is not a museum of art..."
I already said, that obviously there would be discussion of others' art in the forum! It wouldn't be something like the gallery with people only posting pictures!
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Aragorn, all we want is
(http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4120/artforumpj8.png)
Im sorry fellow PSers, i was using psp, for the screendump :P
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Look at all forum - all are discussions...
No need for images discussions to open the whole section...
Open topic "Lets discuss our art" and post there links and discussions as much as you want...
John Taylor - wanna rate pictures and see the general results - then use galery...
Posted on: April 22, 2007, 05:40:48 PM
All we can do - to remove from description of Argonath pictures the sign "Only for GTA pictures"...
Use that forum for art discussions...
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Posted on: April 22, 2007, 05:40:48 PM
All we can do - to remove from description of Argonath pictures the sign "Only for GTA pictures"...
Use that forum for art discussions...
Sounds good to me :D
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Let me check the disussion.
What you want is a place where you can show your pictures, people can comment on them and rate them.
If we use a forum where people open threads, people will discuss your posts. So either you must edit your post or add new pitures by opening a new thread. Otherwise the pictures will be invisible somewhere in the middle of the thread.
What is the solution ? An image gallery where people an post their pictures and where the comments are below the picture. Not mixing of pictures or topics, a real rating system and a place to upload.
I am not concened about webspace or bandwith. The server is using less than 5% of either at the moment. There for we rather provide a place for you guys to pload the images as links to sites that can cause trouble. Ever tried to play MTA with an imagesHACK link open ?
Our preference is to make this gallery on the multimedia site. But if opening topics works better for you.... :roll:
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Our preference is to make this gallery on the multimedia site. But if opening topics works better for you.... :roll:
The Argonath RPG web portal could really use some improvements: having a totally different site for every "subsite" along with an another forum installation isn't nice, it's bulky (and I don't think that anybody even uses the other sites)
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Yeah Gandalf, you as usual explained them what is the best for internet usage, lol...
A lot of sites uses image galeries, discussing the pictures and etc...
Why the hell it should be the topics with section, where all shit together - horses and people?
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Pretty much gandalf we would just like a section under "Off topic" as "Art section" Description "Member art!" a place where we can put it on the main forums where it will be looked at, instead of a spin off site :(. I dunno, i use photobucket, imageshack mainly, the size limits for the gallery are too small, and lets face it. No one looks up to the top to search for images. its better where people can see it, not hideen away at the top...
As for imagesHACK, heh? i thought it was, image shack, meaning house of images. :conf:
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The Argonath RPG web portal could really use some improvements: having a totally different site for every "subsite" along with an another forum installation isn't nice, it's bulky (and I don't think that anybody even uses the other sites)
Of cos Tuntis you know better about internet usage...
We all suck in compare to you...
If you do not like our portal ideas, we cannot help you... Cos to use your ideas - to make site shitty and unusable...
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Of cos Tuntis you know better about internet usage...
We all suck in compare to you...
If you do not like our portal ideas, we cannot help you... Cos to use your ideas - to make site shitty and unusable...
Oh, gee, you totally got me there.
I am giving you friendly tips: I myself believe that the idea of having separate portals is rather complicated, and everything should be managed in one envi"RON"ment. Of course, if you don't like my ideas, please don't be an ass about it.
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No one looks up to the top to search for images. its better where people can see it, not hideen away at the top...
You did not get it, man...
You start topic, posted a picture...
Then starts discussion... After month you decided to post another picture, again discussion... Then another picture after another month, again discussion...
Your topic will have for example 10 pages...
And if people really wanna just to see your pictures to make some point about you as a creator - they must list ALL pages to find the links...
I am not talking that it is lame even...
it is hard for users to find out the correct one...
You can also post all links you have... And what? Will it make users click every link in your list?
If it is art - it should have some preview...
I have no idea WHY you do NOT want to make a normal galery with the dicsussions of each CURRENT picture, where players can see at once all thumbnails of your pictures, rate as well...
But if you wanna a lame "art" topics for your art - use forums "Argonath Pictures"...
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You can also post all links you have... And what? Will it make users click every link in your list?
http://www.forums.court-records.net/viewforum.php?f=15 (not advertising, totally unrelated forum) is an good example of such an system working perfectly. A gallery is rather unnecessary if things can be done this way.
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http://www.forums.court-records.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=577&sid=b6a967bdaa0a1fd63f5274e80c51df6a (http://www.forums.court-records.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=577&sid=b6a967bdaa0a1fd63f5274e80c51df6a)
I liked it!!!
Cool Art Topic!
Hint: Wanna see all pictures - scroll all page...
Ps: Thanks God - there is only one page!
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Oh, thanks for ignoring the point! Obviously you did in purpose because you can't think of anything else to say! You're evil! :(
I'm fine with the pictures forum for all this, it would just have been nicer and cleaner if generic art would get an own forum.
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http://www.forums.court-records.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=577&sid=b6a967bdaa0a1fd63f5274e80c51df6a (http://www.forums.court-records.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=577&sid=b6a967bdaa0a1fd63f5274e80c51df6a)
I liked it!!!
Cool Art Topic!
Hint: Wanna see all pictures - scroll all page...
Ps: Thanks God - there is only one page!
Sarcasm? lol. ><
Maybe that guy aint popular. it was a perfect example though, the artist will update their first post with new images and make apost each time, saying, check the first page for updates...
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Tuntis, why you don't like the ''Gallery'' ,,, >>>
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Sarcasm? lol. ><
Maybe that guy aint popular. it was a perfect example though, the artist will update their first post with new images and make apost each time, saying, check the first page for updates...
Just check all other topics... Especcially that one - with 3 pages...
And you will understand why your idea sucks...)))))))
Or, maybe for you it will be good - just put link - go guys discuss...
And guys? They will have to scroll all your topic pages to see all your art...
And press the links - where they even have no idea what picture is...
Also check it out - that forum also has the size limits of images...
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Tuntis, why you don't like the ''Gallery'' ,,, >>>
Niitro, you were the guy backing this idea up a little while ago, and now ron is against it, you are also against it?
Gallery sucks, look its up there a 6 letter word squashed between other words. such as TV and radio, who will look at a gallery when they can watch TV? :trust: I only once clicked on the gallery, to look at the interiors.
Posted on: April 22, 2007, 06:22:02 PM
Just check all other topics... Especcially that one - with 3 pages...
And you will understand why your idea sucks...)))))))
Or, maybe for you it will be good - just put link - go guys discuss...
And guys? They will have to scroll all your topic pages to see all your art...
And press the links - where they even have no idea what picture is...
Also check it out - that forum also has the size limits of images...
I clearly stated, the topic starter will put the new images on his first post when he started the topic, by using the modify button, he can then notify others of the updates and tell them to look at the front page.
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The Argonath RPG web portal could really use some improvements: having a totally different site for every "subsite" along with an another forum installation isn't nice, it's bulky (and I don't think that anybody even uses the other sites)
We can be as bulky as we want... and looking to the registrations people do use them. ;)
If you would have checked you would see that the forum discussion on the Media site leads back here, not to another forum.
We have found problems with sites like imageshack and photobucket. Rules can change, pictures are not stored forever. Result: they disappear.
I saw the forum and saw that you have to click again and again to see some pictures. Not exactly user-friendly. Also there is the confusion in he discussion when people post new images.
The gallery on the media site can be without limits to the size of upload. In the forums we will keep the limits.
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Tuntis, why you don't like the ''Gallery'' ,,, >>>
The gallery is poorly implemented (it's a small link up in the sidebar, and has only basic features such as commenting), and an forum would work just as well for this purpose.
I would like if you would get an more advanced gallery with everything you can imagine of, along with something that can redirect you to it in the "other"-section.
And guys? They will have to scroll all your topic pages to see all your art...
And press the links - where they even have no idea what picture is...
No! THE FIRST POST would be "updated" every time he adds something new! They could even make thumbnail images or descriptions for each picture link OR JUST DIRECTLY LINK THE IMAGE: it's an art forum, you can only expect to see "big" pictures while browsing! Please consider this suggestion with deep thought, I'm done.
If you would have checked you would see that the forum discussion on the Media site leads back here, not to another forum.
Yes, I did not check it out, but for example, the ARPD site has it's own forum.
We can be as bulky as we want... and looking to the registrations people do use them.
But having everything on the same installation would make management much easier.
(Oh, and the "TV" sucks, it even crashed my Firefox).
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C'mon ,all we want is that section ... >>>
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C'mon ,all we want is this ... >>>
(http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4145/untitled2zq3.th.png) (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2zq3.png)
Aragorn, all we want is
(http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/4120/artforumpj8.png)
Im sorry fellow PSers, i was using psp, for the screendump :P
As you can see, i already covered that niitro :P
Posted on: April 22, 2007, 06:36:48 PM
Come on guys, alot of members of the community have approved of this, i have seen no negative comments on this from other members. Be fair, the community is requesting something, the least you could do is let us try it. Just remember, without us, there would be no argonath. (Not exactly me, im talking about people in the community in general)
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kerr ,i can HARDLY see the '' Art forum'' sign ... >>>
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The first post will be updated lol...
Yeah, with the list of links...
Tuntis you say galery is poor and has no much features???
Which features have forum topics so nessesary for images galery???
Only comment, you say??? No... Galery gives you even possibility to see the small image (thumbnail) to know what is image about... Will your topics have it? No... Users will have to click links, they have no idea what is there... And if they will not like one of your pictures, which can be different from another your picture, they can actually close your topic and never come back...
You wanted to discuss pictures??? And users will not have even idea - which pictures are discussed...
Cmon guys - use "Argonath Pictures" section and enjoy the lame...
But in future do not ask for galery...
Posted on: April 22, 2007, 06:41:17 PM
Come on guys, alot of members of the community have approved of this, i have seen no negative comments on this from other members.
I am fair enough... I gave your advantage - you do not want to use it...
Other community has no interest in your topic...
Do not call 3 forum flooders (in galery way) - the whole community...
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The first post will be updated lol...
Yeah, with the list of links...
Tuntis you say galery is poor and has no much features???
Which features have forum topics so nessesary for images galery???
Only comment, you say??? No... Galery gives you even possibility to see the small image (thumbnail) to know what is image about... Will your topics have it? No... Users will have to click links, they have no idea what is there... And if they will not like one of your pictures, which can be different from another your picture, they can actually close your topic and never come back...
You wanted to discuss pictures??? And users will not have even idea - which pictures are discussed...
Cmon guys - use "Argonath Pictures" section and enjoy the lame...
But in future do not ask for galery...
not nessecarily links... We can create a thumbnail, smaller version of image, upload that, use that as a [ url= BIGIMAGEURL][i mg=SMALLIMAGEURL][/ img][ /url/
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not nessecarily links... We can create a thumbnail, smaller version of image, upload that, use that as a [ url= BIGIMAGEURL][i mg=SMALLIMAGEURL][/ img][ /url/
Of cos you can creat a thumbnail yourself (it is what I call - lamers), when galery has a possibility to make is automatic...
Of cos you can ask from every player - start make thumbnails... Instead of just putting the image and description (galery feature), our ARTtists will make from one image - two, one for thumbnail, other - to upload on imageshack, and at least players of MTA will not go there if they are in game (disconnect - trainer usage)...
And I will not even ask - how the hell you wanna all people force to make thumbnails...
But as the answer you heard:
Use the Argonath Pictures section...
No any special section for images posting...
No any limits of images sizes will be removed on forums options...
End of discussion...
Topic locked...