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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Wayne on November 03, 2008, 08:50:10 pm

Title: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Wayne on November 03, 2008, 08:50:10 pm
Hi guys.. i was thinking.. about DD prizes..
|200K first place |150K Second Place |50K Third place

So.. let's try earn this money as a cop or taxi driver or business owner..
Very hard no?
If these rewards continue players tend to win some authoritie.. so if you kill them they will start whining "AMAGAD FREECOP x KILLED ME AND I SPENT 50K IN WEAPONS!! I WANT IT BACK!!!" or "STUPID FREECOP F*** YOU I WANT MY 50K BACK I WILL MAIL TO ARGONATH!!"
This will force more rulebreaking as flaming, deathmatch (sometimes) will increase court cases also complain at argonath..
Earning 200K in single night is about 5 - 7 months of very hard work of a dedicated worker
So, i suggest an lowering in event prizes.. about to 100K first place 50K second 25K Third.
This could be better.. i agree DD must continue in normal activities, but without tons of prize abuse.
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Caltson on November 03, 2008, 08:52:26 pm
uhm...

The prices you suggest ARE the standars prices in Destruction Derby season 3 wich started last saturday  ;)

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=23227.0
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Wayne on November 03, 2008, 08:54:18 pm
Maybe? do i'm talking with Gimli's destruction derby?
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Pandalink on November 03, 2008, 09:15:41 pm
Events can offer whatever they want. Gimli is trying his hardest to put as much money into the system as possible.

Tell me, Wayne, where does the money that people use to pay taxi drivers come from? Where do suspects get the money that they lose to cops?

Events.
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Andre93 on November 03, 2008, 09:28:14 pm
the prizes are a economic part of argonath
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Wayne on November 03, 2008, 09:47:06 pm
Tell me, Wayne, where does the money that people use to pay taxi drivers come from? Where do suspects get the money that they lose to cops?

Events.
i'm not asking to remove the events, i'm asking to lower the prizes of the events.
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: brainiac220 on November 03, 2008, 09:56:51 pm
you are right Wayne, i got 253k in my bank account now but all this money is earned by me from taxi driver, and cop ! I worked 9 months to gain this money, and when a see a guy winning a DD event with 200k prize, i feel its kinda unfair :P ! I worked 9 months for that money and a guy wins it in 30 mins ! :|
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Seskom on November 03, 2008, 10:00:25 pm
1) its tottaly pointless :/ IRL you cant get 200,000$ for winning a DD i have worked hard for the 3.2 miljons :/ maybe 1 miljon is event cash  but some guy just wins an event and hes basically same rich as me the diffrence is i worked for it he got it for having fun :/
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: brainiac220 on November 03, 2008, 10:05:11 pm
1) its tottaly pointless :/ IRL you cant get 200,000$ for winning a DD i have worked hard for the 3.2 miljons :/ maybe 1 miljon is event cash  but some guy just wins an event and hes basically same rich as me the diffrence is i worked for it he got it for having fun :/
well if i win some DD's or some event's who can bring me atleast 600k!!, i will might say what are you saying right now !  :D
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Eric Wright on November 03, 2008, 10:21:29 pm
Illegal ways are the easiest ways to make cash...You could make 100k+ just with one street race
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Alsatian on November 03, 2008, 10:38:18 pm
If events are removed, then it will be almost impossible to make cash :(

and im sure seskom you didnt get your money with out altleast some hard event cash, if not, damm  :conf:
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Nexxt on November 03, 2008, 10:55:49 pm
Maybe? do i'm talking with Gimli's destruction derby?

There here to fix this problem.
If u are specific talking about the DD by Gimli, organised by Madd Doggs Security.
Then please contact our leading, or in this case u can also contact me.

IC:

Dear Wayne
Im head of Public Relations in Madd Doggs Security and will invite u to an conversation at our HQ.
It seems you dont know how long setting up an event is during.
For example, the DD at LV Parking, we took like 30 to setup, then it took another 30 min to let everyone enter.

If u do not agree with the prizes are given, please contact me and tell us what is your view on it.
Maybe we can use it as an usefull advice

Regards,
[AV]Nexxt
PR of MD Security
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Juanes on November 03, 2008, 11:05:44 pm
There here to fix this problem.
If u are specific talking about the DD by Gimli, organised by Madd Doggs Security.
Then please contact our leading, or in this case u can also contact me.

IC:

Dear Wayne
Im head of Public Relations in Madd Doggs Security and will invite u to an conversation at our HQ.
It seems you dont know how long setting up an event is during.
For example, the DD at LV Parking, we took like 30 to setup, then it took another 30 min to let everyone enter.

If u do not agree with the prizes are given, please contact me and tell us what is your view on it.
Maybe we can use it as an usefull advice

Regards,
[AV]Nexxt
PR of MD Security


True.
It takes alot of time to plan such a DD and let it take place.
If the prizes would be lowered or the DDs be left away, everyone would start crying (as they are even doing yet) with: 'OMGOMGOMG i need money, everyone does, lets make a poll, we all need money, make paydays, make events BLABLA', which is 100% sure.

And yes, it would be nice to have a conversation with you.

Regards,
[AVt]Juan_Vegas
Human Resources of MD Security
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Pancher on November 03, 2008, 11:16:04 pm
As wayne say its not a matter to remove events. Or about the time before u make an  event. Its more about to lower the win price. And i would like to agree those event prices should be lower.
To make a balance between the different citizen.
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Seskom on November 03, 2008, 11:16:44 pm
If events are removed, then it will be almost impossible to make cash :(

and im sure seskom you didnt get your money with out altleast some hard event cash, if not, damm  :conf:
Drib just few jobs i gonna tell you-Begin cop,Property Management,Also i got a car for free and sold it for 420k. :) im telling you i did

I think DDS should be just for fun not for cash all the time
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Proxan on November 03, 2008, 11:43:14 pm
I think its good with high amount of prizes...

Yea but your point Wayne it takes alot of time to get like 200k working as cop for example...


I also believe if people get more money they will share more money ,
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Nexxt on November 04, 2008, 01:19:32 am
As wayne say its not a matter to remove events. Or about the time before u make an  event. Its more about to lower the win price. And i would like to agree those event prices should be lower.
To make a balance between the different citizen.
Yeah that idea sounds not bad, We will look to it.

IC:
Dear Pancher,

For our company, MD Security, we can talk about this inside.
Thanks for your advice at the prize, we will contact u soon about what came out the discussion.
If u have more questions or additionals, please contact me again

Regards,
[AV]Nexxt
PR of MD Security
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Pandalink on November 04, 2008, 02:40:41 am
Events are the closest thing we have to a payday (which we need).
The admins don't agree with auto-payday, so we have events with high prizes.

A lot of the people who are rich have gotten rich by basically scamming people (but not bannably - just kinda screwing people over with bizz deals) - why not complain about them? :/
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Gimli on November 04, 2008, 06:58:07 am
The official ALS DD is an event that happens one time a week, every week a winner is selected and wins a pretty big amount of cash. The DD we did on Saturday night was directed to the players who live in different time zones and cannot go to the ALS DD (it was done really late at night).

IRL you cant get 200,000$ for winning a DD
That is partly true, in real life such contests do not exist. However, take the DD as a lottery where you can actually change something - your ability to handle the car is what counts. Remember that players do not get this particular lottery ticket for free: they also spend their time getting cars, standing in lines to get into the destruction time and so on.

Illegal ways are the easiest ways to make cash...You could make 100k+ just with one street race
Yes, but on the other hand, think where the 100,000$ comes from..

balance between the different citizen.
There is no balance in real life, some are poor and some are rich. Don't tell me that there aren't any people that are rich ingame but roleplay bums and ask for change.


Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Seskom on November 04, 2008, 09:54:49 pm
Gimli $100,000 comes from begin a cop :)
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Gimli on November 04, 2008, 10:09:04 pm
Gimli $100,000 comes from begin a cop :)
And where do the suspects get the 100,000$? ;)
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Seskom on November 05, 2008, 12:12:33 am
they make it begin a cop :D well thats how it used to be when 2.1 came out
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Dave on November 05, 2008, 12:13:08 am
And where do the suspects get the 100,000$? ;)

Technically...it comes from the 10kfree starting cash and admin generated money :)


Now aren't I a smart cookie?  :lol:
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Pandalink on November 05, 2008, 12:15:13 am
they make it begin a cop :D well thats how it used to be when 2.1 came out

But where did the suspects they killed get the money from?
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Seskom on November 05, 2008, 12:26:52 am
Cop kills -> Suspect -> Goes on duty and kills -> suspect etc
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Gimli on November 05, 2008, 06:42:56 am
What I'm trying to point out is that suspects pay 300$/600$ to the cops from their own money. Their own money can come from 10k$ starting cash, paydays, event money, etc..


Gimli
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: brainiac220 on November 05, 2008, 08:56:21 am
The best job for me is.....driver :D  I made above 50k from it..... but you have to play play play as a driver for long time if you want to gain much money.....its days when you can earn 10k  day but days when you can earn 2k per day ! Depends on the customers !  :D
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Pandalink on November 05, 2008, 01:50:12 pm
Cop kills -> Suspect -> Goes on duty and kills -> suspect etc

But where does the first suspect, who has never been a cop, get the money from?
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Celtic Corpse on November 05, 2008, 01:59:29 pm
Criminal Activities, like growing weed, getting heroin, selling it, etc....
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: TruthSvensson on November 05, 2008, 02:14:18 pm
Criminal Activities, like growing weed, getting heroin, selling it, etc....
Where do buyers of them gets money from ? :D
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Celtic Corpse on November 05, 2008, 02:16:25 pm
Random paydays and Developers birthdays.
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: TruthSvensson on November 05, 2008, 02:32:28 pm
and events  :cool:
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Pandalink on November 05, 2008, 05:01:55 pm
Wow, we finally got there.. ;)
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Wayne on November 05, 2008, 07:56:21 pm
People listen to me, yours got it wrong.
i DONT want to DD stop their ACTIVITIES
i just want LOWER the prizes and not STOP the event.
I agree DD must continue their normal activities BUT WITH LESS PRIZE MONEY.

Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Carhartt on November 06, 2008, 08:22:34 am
It's good that people like Gimli bring some money into the server.
There is no good income at all, you I am against your demands.
Who cares if someone has luck and wins something ...
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: tiderman on November 06, 2008, 06:52:32 pm
1) its tottaly pointless :/ IRL you cant get 200,000$ for winning a DD
Well, this is GTA, which is quite (far) far from reality..
Title: Re: Abusive Price of Event Prizes Let Things More Easy to Lucky Ones!
Post by: Juanes on November 06, 2008, 08:50:12 pm
It's good that people like Gimli bring some money into the server.
There is no good income at all, you I am against your demands.
Who cares if someone has luck and wins something ...

Some people do, because they want to be the best and want to own the best things, fastest cars etc.
And yes, i think it's good that there are events, often hosted by MD Security (Advertise : D) and i think that the prizes shouldnt be lowered.
Everyone has got the same chances.
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