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Title: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Jserg on November 23, 2008, 07:56:01 pm
I just made that topic, becasue i think its too stupid if u think that Only humans live in the whole spaces


What do you think? We are the best? Obama is the best? Just wth guys.. We are not alone for sure. .And i dont care if who fount an alien and who tells that it is fake


So you say we are alone? For sure.. we dont even live in Moon for 1 day.. .What do you think?


And something else... Who the f*** was thinking all day, months , years that word Aliens!? Who? If you find him tell me  too.. im gonna give him the biggest gift ever...

You think that just a few guys discovered the word Aliens? There are many clues that people saw Aliens. or Undentified Flying Objects.. Fake and True


(( Btw dont come up here and flame, swear or tell something stupid.. Lets just keep this topic clean ))
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Jubin on November 23, 2008, 10:28:47 pm
Well, you got any solid proofs of alien existence?
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Jserg on November 23, 2008, 10:29:48 pm
I myself, dont have.. That doesnt means that they dont exist
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Jubin on November 23, 2008, 10:32:32 pm
Well then it is like believing in the existence of God. Nobody has no solid proof but a lot of people claim that they have seen it.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Jserg on November 23, 2008, 10:34:42 pm
Many people have saw U.F.Os but nobody believes them...
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Alsatian on November 23, 2008, 10:35:24 pm
Well then it is like believing in the existence of God. Nobody has no solid proof but a lot of people claim that they have seen it.

Good explanation..  :)

Well, im one of those people, i believe it when i see it  :)
Just the way I am...
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Hircine on November 23, 2008, 10:35:39 pm
I just made that topic, becasue i think its too stupid if u think that Only humans live in the whole spaces


What do you think? We are the best? Obama is the best? Just wth guys.. We are not alone for sure. .And i dont care if who fount an alien and who tells that it is fake


So you say we are alone? For sure.. we dont even live in Moon for 1 day.. .What do you think?


And something else... Who the f*** was thinking all day, months , years that word Aliens!? Who? If you find him tell me  too.. im gonna give him the biggest gift ever...

You think that just a few guys discovered the word Aliens? There are many clues that people saw Aliens. or Undentified Flying Objects.. Fake and True


(( Btw dont come up here and flame, swear or tell something stupid.. Lets just keep this topic clean ))

I do believe in other lifeforms, but ancient cultures were the ones who made the calendar systems and etc.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Squeak on November 23, 2008, 10:37:03 pm
There were beings that lived about 1 billion years ago that're extinct now, They look like 1 meter tall Wasps. :lol:
Nah, but seriously, I believe we arent alone.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: MasterNeo on November 24, 2008, 04:50:54 am
Lots of people saw something weird in blurred video or somethin. but its like, wth..no one ever reported a sight of God..
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on November 24, 2008, 05:02:59 am
Jserg this topic is very ussupported in my opinion. People who thought of sorting out time, into seconds minutes hours days weeks months years, etc. Were not aliens but anchient people. Yes the universe is big but if you dont got proof of anchient life then it doesnt exist in a scientific sort of view. Scientist have been sending out tranmission rays or whatever they are called to contact any other satelites in the universe, but nothing has answered. There might be cells on other planets, maybe not humans or anything but a type of small living creatures. The universe is very big so I dobt we will see any other living creatures any time soon.....only a chance of luck maybe.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: stiffler2100 on November 24, 2008, 05:26:41 am
what is the point of this? nobody said they didn't exist so why do you have to post a topic acting all angry like. ALIENS DO EXIST, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME I'LL EAT YOUR BALLS. I've always wondered what happened if something went constantly up, would it reach and edge? or end up back where it started?
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: JDC on November 24, 2008, 10:43:24 am
One reason why aliens exist:

The inner universe's structure is theorized to be like a matrix (not the weird thing with green numbers from the movie, mind you), kind of like a spider web, of thousands clusters of superclusters. Each supercluster contains several clusters. Each cluster contains dozens of galaxies. Each galaxy contains tens or hundreds billions of stars. Each star with planetary material around it can turn into a system with life.

Imagine this (the numbers here are waay below the actual factors):

The universe has 50 superclusters.
Each supercluster has 25 clusters.
Each cluster has 50 galaxies.
Each galaxy has 1*109 or 1 billion stars.
One fourth of those stars have planetary material
One hundreth of those stars have the right planets to develop life.
One hundreth of those life-carrying planets have intelligent life that can communicate with far-away civilizations.

In this very-small-fictional-universe scenario, 15.625*1010 or 156,250,000,000 (one hundred fifty-six billion two hundred fifty million) planets alone would have life on them, and 15.625*108 or 1,562,500,000 planets would be able to send out messengers / messages to far-away civilizations, like Earth. And the worst part is, the numbers in this scenario are FAR below the actual universe's.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Call_me_Dad on November 24, 2008, 11:00:47 am
It is definitely possible that aliens exist.
But whenever we see aliens we get pics of UFO's and huge skulls...
i mean its not necessary that aliens are much developed than humans, maybe they are still hanging from trees and eating raw meat.
They wont catch our satellite transmission anyways, maybe they have a totally different technology or maybe none at all
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Amon Ra on November 24, 2008, 03:55:08 pm
Well there are some parts in the quran that says there are  ( I THINK ) so if there is i believe  :)
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Pandalink on November 24, 2008, 05:22:45 pm
Believing in Aliens isn't like believing in God, since I don't think there is much maths involved in prooving the existence of God.

Believe in whatever religion you want, I don't care. I think all religion is wrong.
Similarly, believe what you want about aliens.
To be honest, I don't think you're gonna change anyone's mind.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Alsatian on November 24, 2008, 05:38:35 pm
And besides, even if aliens existed, as call_me_dad said, they may still be at a very early stage, hanging from trees etc...

And if they are out there, it may take centuries before we can contact them, think of the distance, but... If there are more advanced forms of lifeforms out there, the Earth is sending out satellites and other stuff, making itself noticed, maybe we will meet aliens..

And this has nothing to do with like believing in God, as Panda said...
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: tiderman on November 24, 2008, 05:50:36 pm
Yeah, can't compare God to "aliens".

And ofcourse there are other species in the (pretty big..) universe. Like, only one planet in one solar system? Yeah right.. The aliens might be as small that we won't notice them (like atoms being solar systems), maybe they are too big to be seen and for them planet earth is just a small neutron or w/e..

(http://lc.brooklyn.cuny.edu/smarttutor/core3_22/images/Atom_structure_neutron2.gif)


For me that looks pretty much like a solar system, just not much like ours :P


Let's wait and see..
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: sinamun on November 24, 2008, 06:35:11 pm
their are 'aliens' or whatever you want to call them,
we might be aliens to them. we havnt met any 'aliens' because we are soo far out of other galexies and are unreachable.
if one galexy has one planet that habitates life (ours) and there are about a 100 million other galexies. the chanses are pretty massive there are other living beings out their
but i agree with carhartt that is bollocks.
everyone grew up with aliens looking like that.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Amon Ra on November 24, 2008, 07:26:34 pm
You talking to me pandalink?
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Dave on November 24, 2008, 07:30:30 pm
How do you know we are even on a round planet....? Have you ever been to space, have you ever seen earth with your own eyes?


Television is where you probably saw it from...and thats it, TV, is what on TV and on the net true? Did we really land on the moon? Did we really go out to space? there is no wide spread proof of this. Ye a few guys that are like " Oh ye, we went to the moon". But they could have easily been bribed to do that....

Well, ye the earth is round, I know that for a fact. You can tell it from an aircraft wuite easily. but as for landing on the moon and the international space station...

Plus, how do you know we aren't some form of experiment, created by higher beings? We could be like lab rats....


Ok. I think like drib - I don't belive anything till I see it with my own eyes, or have valid reliable proof and eveidence to back everything up.   Try quiz yourself on some of the above questions. the ones I havn't already answer. And don't come back with the "omfg u stupid n00b u r so liek wrong z0mfg aliens do exist and i haz been takun by them omfg omfg omfg!" posts...
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Alsatian on November 24, 2008, 08:01:28 pm
I just find it the best way, if I see it myself, I believe it, why do I follow this?

TV, people, can all change the story... My eyes, are mine, I see it, I know the truth with these, people cant alter what I see..

The moon landing, maybe, but it could of been done in the white house, or some gusy basement as a renactment..

And just think a little thing, ok let me think how to explain. Yeh, I think there are MAYBE lifeforms out there, but think, although planets have the resources, they dont last forever, take Earth for example, We are running out of our resources, but thank god we have scientists, who are working hard to find alternative resources.

Other planets, life may begin there, but maybe there is limited resources, and so, the life only last for a while, or maybe they just dont evolve, or other things, we are lucky this Earth has EVERYTHING we need, and alot of it (although its running out)

I'd like to hope that thre is life out there, bit of a waste if just out of all these planets we are the only life...

This is my view on Space and Aliens...
Its not the best explained, but its my opinion, and a opinion is not right or wrong, its a opinion...

Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on November 24, 2008, 10:33:01 pm
Well god dammit I pressed a button so my post got deleted but ill just shorten it. 4.3% of the universe is matter, you may think thats small but its still alot. So the universe is big, leaving open big possiblities of other speicies out there. I think it needs to be scientificly true to be a fact. And for if you dont see it dont believe it, whats the bullsh*t? I didnt see the holacaust so it probroly never happened, didnt go to germany and see any dead jews. Some things are just true and dont need to be supported but a bunch of facts and book pages. outer species does however, because it has almost no eviedence. Except for some crazy hicks who claim to see UFOs and some fake video. whoopty do. And even if there are other planets out there thye may be dying off every couple of seconds. We may just be a grain of sand on a beach in florida (example). Either way, in about 6 billion years the sun will destroy earth, and wether or not human civiliazation will be alive then or not, I cannot guess.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Alsatian on November 24, 2008, 11:47:27 pm
Well god dammit I pressed a button so my post got deleted but ill just shorten it. 4.3% of the universe is matter, you may think thats small but its still alot. So the universe is big, leaving open big possiblities of other speicies out there. I think it needs to be scientificly true to be a fact. And for if you dont see it dont believe it, whats the bullsh*t? I didnt see the holacaust so it probroly never happened, didnt go to germany and see any dead jews. Some things are just true and dont need to be supported but a bunch of facts and book pages. outer species does however, because it has almost no eviedence. Except for some crazy hicks who claim to see UFOs and some fake video. whoopty do. And even if there are other planets out there thye may be dying off every couple of seconds. We may just be a grain of sand on a beach in florida (example). Either way, in about 6 billion years the sun will destroy earth, and wether or not human civiliazation will be alive then or not, I cannot guess.

Well, I feel when the sun comes to end of its life, Human civilisation will evolve into space, or someother form of survival..
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on November 24, 2008, 11:50:39 pm
Well, I feel when the sun comes to end of its life, Human civilisation will evolve into space, or someother form of survival..

Same here, thats what I believe (and hope)
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: JDC on November 25, 2008, 09:10:49 am
There should be aliens already, because Earth alone formed 4 billion years ago and the universe is 13.7 billion years old. The first life forms in the universe developed millions or even BILLIONS of years before us. If we achieved the first flying car (yes there is already one IRL) after 1000 years of ever-accelerating technological progress, think of what they could have achived. That should be enough.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Jserg on November 25, 2008, 09:20:54 am
So, most people believe in existing of Aliens or outer species. Having no clues dont means there are not exists...
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on November 26, 2008, 01:00:55 am
So, most people believe in existing of Aliens or outer species. Having no clues dont means there are not exists...

Yes and you know how many christians, or even people who believe in God or a god(s) where are? Just because a whole bunch of people believes it, doesnt make it true.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Paroxysm on November 26, 2008, 07:37:25 am
howdy, just visiting...

I do believe that outer species exist.. I mean just think of all the species that just live on earth alone...
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Jaaskaa on November 26, 2008, 07:41:33 am
There are so many planets, so much space out there, that if we are alone, that would be a wonderful waste ...
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: JDC on November 26, 2008, 10:43:22 am
Yea, its like buying a styrofoam block the size of San Andreas just to use only one ball of it
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Jubin on November 26, 2008, 09:17:38 pm
1 in every quadrillion planets has life (or at least stuff needed for life)on them.
Thus, aliens exist.
Ok if you say so, then please tell me, what are these "stuff" what is needed for life and also can you tell me, how life even borns. Like give me a detailed description of how single atom finally evolves into an alien. And if you are done with that research please, give me a probability that a new life form can evolve.  Also we have here on Earth "stuff needed for life", why doesn't new species evolve just in front of our eyes right now?
 :roll:
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Malcolm on November 26, 2008, 09:21:11 pm
Space is..so huge..infinitive..Why should we be alone? I bet there is something/someone out there..
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: JDC on November 27, 2008, 09:12:03 am
Jubin, we dont even know EXACTLY how our own life formed. How much more about aliens whose body structures we dont even know?

However, scientists have simulated an artificial primordial Earth atmosphere in a laboratory, putting in gases such as methane and amino acids into a warm stormy environment. Days later, the amino acids formed together into peptides, the intermediate between an amino acid and a protein. Even later, the peptides formed into protein balls, which grow from other protein balls. Once one of these protein balls split off, it becomes a new protein ball which grows other protein balls.

Scientists think that the above process is how the simplest single-celled organisms formed.



If that is what can happen with the elements found alone on Earth, imagine what can happen on billions of other planets with God knows what unkown elements.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Bianconeri on November 27, 2008, 09:59:40 am
Believing in Aliens isn't like believing in God, since I don't think there is much maths involved in prooving the existence of God.

Believe in whatever religion you want, I don't care. I think all religion is wrong.
Similarly, believe what you want about aliens.
To be honest, I don't think you're gonna change anyone's mind.

i agree with that, the existence of any God isnt proven, and will never be proven,
i hope evolution theory is getting proven soon, so that God can be gone forever,

but about this:
im someone who wants prove before believing in something(also why i dont believe in God)
but im very curious about this things, im interested in TV stuff about it,
and i think there might be aliens out there,
maybe not monsters, but just tiny living things, which might evolve like we did too,

so i hope for some
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Jubin on November 27, 2008, 02:10:07 pm
Jubin, we dont even know EXACTLY how our own life formed.



We?Or you don't know?
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: Freedom on November 27, 2008, 03:44:16 pm
Belive it or not.. There's a life on Mars, but they are bakterias or what ever they are called.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: MasterNeo on November 27, 2008, 04:08:37 pm
i agree with that, the existence of any God isnt proven, and will never be proven,
i hope evolution theory is getting proven soon, so that God can be gone forever,

but about this:
im someone who wants prove before believing in something(also why i dont believe in God)
but im very curious about this things, im interested in TV stuff about it,
and i think there might be aliens out there,
maybe not monsters, but just tiny living things, which might evolve like we did too,

so i hope for some

So...u didnt belive in God? im just askin, who will u willing to get help with if u got something that can't be done by human/animal/technology?

will u pray to god if u want someone to be healed? exp: cancer....
there is no cur for cancer but few of them survived it and most who survived believe in God.
Title: Re: For those who dont believe in outer species
Post by: tiderman on November 27, 2008, 04:17:45 pm
Plus, how do you know we aren't some form of experiment, created by higher beings? We could be like lab rats....
Lol, I think about that quite alot actually. I also think how f**king perfect everything is. I mean, creatures, plants and life in general. Legs, oxygen, water, eyes, ears, arms, brain.. And I don't care about any "facts" about how we evolved from small.. Yeah whatever they're called in English. Still smells fishy IMHO.
I'm also getting paranoid thoughts of being filmed or watched after I saw that f**king Truman Show with Jim Carrey.  :lol: I mean, who knows?


And people saying "f**k God, it's only bullshit", can't people have a belief? A hope?
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