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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Natan on December 13, 2008, 05:20:39 pm

Title: server got very much dmers
Post by: Natan on December 13, 2008, 05:20:39 pm
listen admins
today i got tempban for 2 hours because some police freecop dmer come and shoot me from anywhere for nothing
i got 9k weapons and losse them
also i got some bizz with another guy and i need to use my weapons [RP]

this freecop kill me and lose my weapons for 9k
i start to damn him and i got banana and tempban

its very no fair cuzz who played good RP got kick and ban and who dont know to play RP and dming on the server
he always "clear"

so what you say???
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Kensou_Sefeol on December 13, 2008, 06:00:16 pm
Same here.. A freecop kid me and took off my cash and weps.. He aboused and then i got tempbanned :P
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Nexxt on December 13, 2008, 06:31:56 pm
Its about how we, experienced guys, react on that.

Instead of being shot by an new person and shot him back, try to help him and learn the rules.
Refer him to site and forum to READ them , but do never shoot him back.
He will think its allowed because other people are doing the same.

And as 2nd we have the administration team what is always able to do something on it, if they're not busy, but then we all need to use /report and not to take own decision and lets kill them.
Then u are DMing to, and you have to be that smart that u dont DM back , but give them some information.

Didnt u remember when u was new? I can't believe u knew everything and started as freecop with /s SAPD STOP or /me takes notebook and add crime information to database
Its unpossible to know all and we need to learn them! We can get good RPers from them if THEY want, and if they dont want..
Its good u helped them, but they didnt want to follow rules and then it will end in a ban in sometime.
Its just very simple, accept them, dont shoot back, refer them to the rules and learn them things.

And also, what is the most usefull thing to start flaming.
The guy is just new here, dont got friends yet..
And he got flamed, he dont really care I think because he currently had no-one to care about.
U will only got yourself with this, because this for u ended in a tempban.


I will end this with a good thing:
You can't learn a language without teaching, so u can't learn RP without knowing HOW to RP
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: VeLuX on December 13, 2008, 06:37:56 pm
listen admins
today i got tempban for 2 hours because some police freecop dmer come and shoot me from anywhere for nothing
i got 9k weapons and losse them
also i got some bizz with another guy and i need to use my weapons [RP]

this freecop kill me and lose my weapons for 9k
i start to damn him and i got banana and tempban

its very no fair cuzz who played good RP got kick and ban and who dont know to play RP and dming on the server
he always "clear"

so what you say???


i was in there when you got tempbanned, the admins say to you "Stop Flaming" course you was flaming in main chat
and you not stopped then they ary tempbanned you, thats fair dude , remeber they only do there job
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Nexxt on December 13, 2008, 06:59:12 pm
Feels like another complain topic.
I can't say other thing then...

[email protected] ?
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Juanes on December 13, 2008, 07:09:55 pm
Feels like another complain topic.
I can't say other thing then...

[email protected] ?

Ah, cmon.
This isn't a complain topic. There aren't any names of admins listed, so there is no sense in posting this email-address
Besides that, the E-Mail-Address is senseless, because none takes care of the messages sent there.
Just stop that.....you probably know what I mean, everyone says it....
And if you don't I don't care either.
Sorry for off-topic
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Nexxt on December 13, 2008, 07:13:57 pm
Ah, cmon.
This isn't a complain topic. There aren't any names of admins listed, so there is no sense in posting this email-address
Besides that, the E-Mail-Address is senseless, because none takes care of the messages sent there.
Just stop that.....you probably know what I mean, everyone says it....
And if you don't I don't care either.
Sorry for off-topic

The emails isnt only to complain about admins.
The email is there to complain about players who are rulebreaking while admin didnt readed /report or had no time for it, so u can get your right.
You can see that email as an admin what is always online, you made screenshots, tell the right story and email it to it.

And yes, I see this as an complaint topic, as there are things where is is saying that he didnt agree with the situation.
He was angry about it and got tempbanned.
Because he got tempbanned now, he made this topic , so it is a complaint in my eyes.

Anyways, we all need to help changing that, I help people and there are some more, but with 5 people helping we dont change every new single one.
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Natan on December 13, 2008, 07:54:33 pm
i dont care
its very nervouzz
from this reason good rp prople taking off from the argonathrpg
i dont want
but admins give bans to another people that who know how RP

and when we do report that admins do nothing
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: MrsSvensson on December 13, 2008, 08:11:22 pm
"... server got very much dmers..

and the admins are there and doing the best to stop the deathmatching.."
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Brains on December 13, 2008, 08:41:58 pm
Ah, cmon.
This isn't a complain topic. There aren't any names of admins listed, so there is no sense in posting this email-address
Besides that, the E-Mail-Address is senseless, because none takes care of the messages sent there.
Just stop that.....you probably know what I mean, everyone says it....
And if you don't I don't care either.
Sorry for off-topic

And u know that no one is taking care about that?
Like Nexxt said this topic is just another complaint and I would recommend to send this story on well known e-mail..
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Nexxt on December 13, 2008, 08:51:16 pm
Ah, cmon.
This isn't a complain topic. There aren't any names of admins listed, so there is no sense in posting this email-address
Besides that, the E-Mail-Address is senseless, because none takes care of the messages sent there.
Just stop that.....you probably know what I mean, everyone says it....
And if you don't I don't care either.
Sorry for off-topic

Listen to this:
What if we order u, to sit 24/7 on a desk to wait for mails from [email protected].
Every mails what comes in, u need to have it solved in 6 hours.
If u get another email u need to also handle that one while busy on the other one.

Its not like how it goes real, but its very similar.
Main admins has enough to do, watching people, leading the servers, and also answering emails.
But they are not only born for Argonath, they have their own life also.
It needs time when u send an email and some people call it useless because they dont get an answer in 1 seconds.

What else? Do u want an autoresponder who says...
Quote
Thanks for your email.
We will handle this soon when time is available.

Please stay tuned for any new updates.

Regards,

ArgonathRPG SA:MP Team
No, then the are complaining, it responds but admins dont read it.

The email really works, if u have some patience, if u dont, its wasnt that urgent.


i dont care
its very nervouzz
from this reason good rp prople taking off from the argonathrpg
i dont want
but admins give bans to another people that who know how RP

and when we do report that admins do nothing

Then u need to be able to control your self.
SA is very big, change something in RP like, when u are arresting someone.
U ask him to step in and talk on a quite place.

Admins dont ban for RPing.
Admins bans for ruining RP, events, flaming after multiple warnings..

So open your mailbox and write your email if u are not happy with the current admins.


Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Rewolloc on December 13, 2008, 11:59:49 pm
I Agree you.... i hate that All Freecops/Dmers/rulebreakers.. i'm tired to report people.... what about today... 2 DMer TPed to LSPD with armor hacks they had Minigun and there was a CHAOS at LSPD we punched them for don't attack Officers - Cadets were shooting finally [WS]Tov banned them..

Please admins stop play GTA IV for 1-2 hours and take care of the server  :razz:  :lol:
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: CBFasi on December 14, 2008, 12:01:56 am
You want me to delay release of Rs4 just to sort this out?????
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: JayL on December 14, 2008, 12:06:46 am
You want me to delay release of Rs4 just to sort this out?????

Well, if we want to play RS4.0 without getting the fun ruined by the DMer's mentioned here...  :roll: :redface:
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Nexxt on December 14, 2008, 12:32:30 am
I Agree you.... i hate that All Freecops/Dmers/rulebreakers.. i'm tired to report people.... what about today... 2 DMer TPed to LSPD with armor hacks they had Minigun and there was a CHAOS at LSPD we punched them for don't attack Officers - Cadets were shooting finally [WS]Tov banned them..

Please admins stop play GTA IV for 1-2 hours and take care of the server  :razz:  :lol:

How u can say that!
U should be an admin for 2 days, to feel how much work they should have.
I also don't know but I've heard lots admins telling me how hard it is.

A level 3 or 4 for example can't sort out the emails.
Its most likely up to Gimli and CBFasi (SA:MP Leaders)
Both are focused on RS4.0, to bring it on asap.

Isnt that what u want.
A good working RS4.0 , where freecops can be banned...
Or a delay of RS4.0, due CBF is fixing YOUR problems?

I know my choice, I chose for the first....
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Wayne on December 14, 2008, 12:56:01 am
We need these DMers,
With these DMers, we can replace your old players that got bored from your server.
We all can teach him ;)
Whats better? 1-2 temporary DMers or empty server?
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Natan on December 14, 2008, 02:28:40 pm
sp why i got ban and dmers [if it was hacker so he got ban] but dmers gats kicks and warend
alot off people mnow me at this server and you admins
i never got banned from this server
and now tempban from the server because this dmers

i fu*** nevouzz from this dmers
when i do report about carjack\dming\rulebraker so admins 10 min after do there job
in 10 min the dmers can do alot

so pls
take care about good RP's and we do reports dont take it 10 mins
1 min maximum
or just lat it to another admin
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Pancher on December 14, 2008, 02:41:42 pm
If u see a DM use the scripted command ingame /report ID REASON, and wait for admin help, i promise they wont freeze the guy u say is DM before he see it with his own eyes. Since there are players abusing /report to get revange. If no admin respond or u dont get any messeage send complaint on the DM to [email protected]. state time, date, name, and etc that can help administration to work fast and easy.
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Caltson on December 14, 2008, 03:13:39 pm
And one more thing... DONT Get so pissed off at DM'ers... They will learn / Leave and after all.. It's nothing more just than a game.. .The worst thing that could happen is lose $100 of 'virtual' cash. Ruining RP is much worse in my opinion tough..
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: CBFasi on December 14, 2008, 07:20:49 pm
Guys please remember admins ARE humans too, they are PLAYERS who have given up the ability to just play, they are required when in server to work for the good of the server, but they are NOT multi task capable, they are NOT super humans, they have limits and I find it annoying that you players thinkg we can drop everything even when NOT IN THE SERVER...  We have lives OUTSIDE of this server and I am disgusted to see this view that shows that you do not seem to consider this.

As some of the longer term players know, this server is not just about admins monitoring and players playing, its about the 2 groups actually working together within server rules.  You helps us, we help you, and in the end we WILL succeed as a server not as admins or players but as a community on this server.

Rs4 is an example of the community and quite a number will know that I have talked to groups to gather information, I have also spent time look at the ideas, and this of course is detracting from my admin duties, yes I feel guilty but I know that when RS4 does come out you will see it has been worth it...
I come on server and normally for at least 30 minutes I spammed for help help help on pm, phone and sms.  As many know I try to help ALL.. 

Admins are far busier than many realise, it can take time to confirm hackers or just bad players, and during this checking they do not find it easy to do another task, I may of let some bad cops get away yesterday cos I was busy dealing with OTHER requests... who gets priority..  we just try to make best decision at the time, it maybe right or wrong in your view but we make that decision based on OUR experiance and how we see it will affect the server.
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: Natan on December 14, 2008, 08:03:56 pm
i not saying that admins need to be in the game 24\7
i know that all people got a life
my point that Dmers, do dming on the server and RP group of players got ban

but i got all the answers there
so you lock this topic
and thnx for answers
Title: Re: server got very much dmers
Post by: [Rstar]Razor on December 14, 2008, 08:06:55 pm
Locked on request of topic creator.

Razor
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