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Title: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: JDC on December 18, 2008, 10:06:34 am
I've been noticing a lot of debate going on about this topic ingame, so I decided to make a poll. Combat shotguns or Sawn-off shotguns?

Combat Shotgun:
-Weapon for the skilled
-Two hands required to operate
-7 Shots can be fired before reloading

Sawn-off Shotgun:
-Weapon for those without gun skill, and Dmers
-One hand required to operate each rifle
-2 Shots can be fired before reloading (each gun)

Cast your votes!
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Malcolm on December 18, 2008, 10:49:32 am
Combat forevah! Sawn-offs are lame  :razz:
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: ElMartu on December 18, 2008, 01:00:42 pm
I use the combat shotgun, because it looks a bit more realistic than running around the other with two shotguns in each hand.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Omri on December 18, 2008, 01:08:17 pm
You gotta love the damge of the Sawn off.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Carla on December 18, 2008, 01:19:46 pm
Sawn-off  :D
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Pancher on December 18, 2008, 01:21:47 pm
My point is, Shawn off shotguns are LAME!!!..Combat is much better :)
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Oliver on December 18, 2008, 01:22:23 pm
Combat sjoygun. ( im too bored to get out of my seat to write like a real person )
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Rusty on December 18, 2008, 01:48:30 pm
Combat Shotgun.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: adam_stevens on December 18, 2008, 01:59:22 pm
i normally use combat, coz sawnoffs are lame, but if im pissed off or someone is chasing me for no reason i might as well buy sawnoffs just to kick his sad ass quicker
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Jserg on December 18, 2008, 01:59:28 pm
Shotgun pump action FTW
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Nexxt on December 18, 2008, 02:04:56 pm
Combat :)

But sometimes Sawnoff is cool :)
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Janar on December 18, 2008, 02:28:22 pm
Yes to Combat shotgun!
No to Noobcannons aka Sawn-Offs!
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Carbon on December 18, 2008, 02:31:29 pm
Imo both guns are for DM-ers.. So i dont prefer ..but i voted for Combat Shotgun  :)
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Grovyle on December 18, 2008, 02:41:15 pm
Combat Shots, best of all.

Noob-On Shotgun is stupid.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Carhartt on December 18, 2008, 02:44:25 pm
Both are lame.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: The_Wolf on December 18, 2008, 03:07:49 pm
Both are extremely "bad" weapons in my opinion and the worst weapon is the mic or the tec9...
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Alsatian on December 18, 2008, 06:31:48 pm
Combat, hate the sawn off's
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Bounce on December 18, 2008, 11:03:35 pm
Both are lame.

Agreed, real men use Deagle's.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: OGKing on December 18, 2008, 11:55:09 pm
Well for mafia you will use AK's, SMG and so on
For Gangs, Deagles, pistols, Tec9.
For Armies, M4
For DMers, Sawnoff

So in ma opinion is Combat better..
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Cane on December 19, 2008, 12:04:05 am
Sawn-offs are the lamest. A sawn-off shotgun is a 12 gauge shotgun, for those who haven't noticed. I mean, unless you're super-strong, it's impossible to use a god damn 12 gauge with ONE arm without breaking it off your body! Combats all the way.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Squeak on December 19, 2008, 12:08:17 am
Uhh, Pump-Action ftw?
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Niall on December 19, 2008, 12:12:12 am
I like both
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: rJCaiG on December 19, 2008, 03:05:13 am
moved to SA:MP general
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Dmitry on December 19, 2008, 06:18:31 am
Did you really asked that?  :razz:
We all know Sawn off's are for DMers, so, ehm.. really, i guess you know what i voted  :roll:


(For those who didn't understand; i voted for Combat.. uh. yeah.. :))
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Duncan_James on December 19, 2008, 09:43:28 am
Sawn-Off.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: [Rstar]Razor on December 19, 2008, 04:40:02 pm
Combat Shotgun - Good but looks like an army weapon
Sawnoff - Simply for those quick, non roleplay fights/killing, most common - deathmatch.
Shotgun - Perfect weapon, good roleplay.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Natan on December 19, 2008, 10:56:57 pm
i think betetr is sawn-off
i love this much :]]


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Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: JDC on December 19, 2008, 11:46:12 pm
Now we know those people who suck at deagles :P
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Julian on December 20, 2008, 12:06:33 am
Combat is better...
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Bianconeri on December 20, 2008, 12:34:09 am
both weapons for non-skillers,
u shoot 10 miles next to the other and still some bullets hit the other,
no skills needed at all,
bad range, good power at close combat:

-good power
-bad range
-average shooting speed

i dont like and dont use any of those 2 weapons, i prefer deagle above all!!!!!!!
why?
well good power, just 3 shots and dead, good range, good shooting speed

-good power
-good range
-good shooting speed

the only thing on deagle is that you need skills, if you got skills you use deagle, if you are a no-skiller you use shotguns
so personally i only use deagle, it pwns, im a good shooter with deagle

DEAGLE OWNS YOU ALL  :war:
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Bianconeri on December 20, 2008, 12:35:52 am
oh and JDC make a new voting option:
-both suck, use deagle!
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Marting_Riggs on December 20, 2008, 12:38:03 am
combat i like btw in ammu what section is combat under i should never find it it under shotguns
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: JDC on December 20, 2008, 01:11:58 am
Third option added, you can change your vote if you want to
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: [Rstar]Razor on December 20, 2008, 02:11:54 am
Why not add the normal shotgun to the list? If you don't actually mind.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Billy_Grey on December 20, 2008, 08:09:00 pm
i like all shotgunz
but i think nooboffs are for noobs
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Bilbo on December 20, 2008, 09:00:51 pm
Normal Shotguns
FTW




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Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Yihka on December 21, 2008, 12:12:39 am
Sawn Off Shotgun:

-Very fast shooting speed
-Amazing power
-Very bad range.
-Not many bullets... Reloading many times

Its the best weapon for close range if your pretty good at aiming (or not so good)


Combat shotgun:

-Fairly fast shooting speed
-Mid Power
-Close Range
-Much bullets... Reloading not so many times


Normal Shotgun:

-Normal Shooting speed
-Mid power
-Close range
-Enough bullets... Reloading takes not so much time


Deagle:

-High power
-Normal Shooting Speed
-Long Range
-Enough bullets... Almost no reloading needed



Deagle would be the best for it's price. But I choose combat shotgun because I like it more than sawn of shotgun. One bad point: cant run with it
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Bianconeri on December 21, 2008, 12:13:28 am
Third option added, you can change your vote if you want to

great, i voted for Deagle!!! of course it just pwns:

-good power
-good accuracy(if u got skills)
-good range
-good shooting speed
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Niki on December 21, 2008, 12:56:43 am
Like the poll said: real men use Desert Eagles!
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Watahell on December 21, 2008, 02:17:24 pm
Real men use deagles.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Winters on December 21, 2008, 02:37:56 pm
Im going for the Deagle, Since FBI only uses Deagle, I love the gun, If you can hit properly, You can hit everyone with a deagle ;)
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Eric Wright on December 21, 2008, 04:22:30 pm
Since FBI only uses Deagle,

HAHAHAH LMFAO, good one Winters
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Oliver on December 21, 2008, 04:34:02 pm
FBI keep uzi-spraying me when I'm running :( .
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: ToniaNVR on December 21, 2008, 05:10:39 pm
(http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/loaded-desert-eagle-web.jpg)
deagle..
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Winters on December 21, 2008, 05:15:39 pm
(http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/loaded-desert-eagle-web.jpg)
deagle..

Lmao! Nice picture :D
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: adam_stevens on December 21, 2008, 05:44:35 pm
Im going for the Deagle, Since FBI only uses Deagle, I love the gun, If you can hit properly, You can hit everyone with a deagle ;)

the only thing fbi uses is uzi?

and whats about that "real men use deagle", real men use fists?
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Watahell on December 21, 2008, 05:56:36 pm
HAHAHAH LMFAO, good one Winters

FBI keep uzi-spraying me when I'm running :( .

Then please report them to our forums, with screenies, and actions will be taken. http://arpdfbi.phphope.net/viewforum.php?f=17 <--- that's where you should post them, not here.

Also, I never uzi spray people.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Wayne on December 21, 2008, 06:39:31 pm
I like normal shotguns..
I can do KS with it..
Making it more dangerous than combat/sawnoff
Unfortunately i can do KS with deagle too..
But i think Deagle  is a good weapon.. same level of shotgun.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Chase on December 21, 2008, 06:45:02 pm
I only uzi spray people if they are either: Lagging, zig zagging, get in a car,  out of deagle ammo, or people with tec9s that spray at me.

Anyway, my opinion on shotguns and deagles:

Combat shotgun:
    Semi automatic
    7 shots
    Medium range
    Not effective at long range.
    Ideal for SWAT / FBI in close quarters combat.

Regular shotgun:
    Single shot (have to cock at every shot)
    Low range
    Ideal for SAPD to carry in squad cars and criminals.

Sawn-off shotgun:
    4 shots before reloading
    Low range
    Ideal for people with absolutely have no skill and want the job done quick.

Deagle:
    7 shots in every clip
    Medium range.
    Takes people down quick.
    Inaccurate at long range. (If you're lucky you can actually hit something at long range)
    Slow rate of fire
    Not very good on people who lag.


So in all... for patrol I keep my uzi for laggy people and to use to drive by shoot people's tires, and deagle for runners and of course to return fire at combative armed suspects. And for big shootout situations with heavily armed suspects.. I go and buy a combat shotgun or M4.. depending if its close quarters combat or long range combat.
    
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Wash on December 21, 2008, 07:13:27 pm
Combat ftw  :razz:
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: DHR.Mike on December 21, 2008, 11:36:18 pm
i disagree on combat bad range becous i can stand on City hall and kill cops at LSPD XD  so its don't got a bad raghe i always take the combat for big fights and els Deagle
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Bianconeri on December 21, 2008, 11:42:14 pm
I only uzi spray people if they are either: Lagging, zig zagging, get in a car,  out of deagle ammo, or people with tec9s that spray at me.

Anyway, my opinion on shotguns and deagles:

Combat shotgun:
    Semi automatic
    7 shots
    Medium range
    Not effective at long range.
    Ideal for SWAT / FBI in close quarters combat.

Regular shotgun:
    Single shot (have to cock at every shot)
    Low range
    Ideal for SAPD to carry in squad cars and criminals.

Sawn-off shotgun:
    4 shots before reloading
    Low range
    Ideal for people with absolutely have no skill and want the job done quick.

Deagle:
    7 shots in every clip
    Medium range.
    Takes people down quick.
    Inaccurate at long range. (If you're lucky you can actually hit something at long range)
    Slow rate of fire
    Not very good on people who lag.


So in all... for patrol I keep my uzi for laggy people and to use to drive by shoot people's tires, and deagle for runners and of course to return fire at combative armed suspects. And for big shootout situations with heavily armed suspects.. I go and buy a combat shotgun or M4.. depending if its close quarters combat or long range combat.
    

about the deagle stuff of you,
medium range, dont think so, deagle got a far range, not much guns will beat deagle on range
slow rate, mmm it shoots pretty fast, certainly not slow
not good on a lagger, thats true, thats the only really bad point on deagle,
against a lagger ur a dead men, at least im, since i dont lag(54 ping)

inaccurate on long range, well that depends on your skills, good sight u can easily take them out...if none lags
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: tiderman on December 21, 2008, 11:44:19 pm
I like the regular shotgun more than any gun in the game. It aint nuttin but a pump action thang baby

.. BUT! We all know Mel Gibson used a sawnoff in the Mad Max movies and the topic title is "CS or SOS?" so..


SAWN OFFS!! (Though I would love if the SA:MP team would make it and the other dual wield weapons single wield. Much cooler.)

BTW, why is it lame? Because it packs a shitload of damage and you rarely win a fight against it? I mean, come on.. It IS good. Combat shotgun IS good, too!
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Seskom on December 22, 2008, 01:59:26 am
i voted for deagle it pwns i remeber when i owned wiwi he had Sawnoffs and tec9s and deagle xD
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: JDC on December 22, 2008, 02:03:58 am
Sawn-off is lame because all the people with "noobish" or no gun skill use it because they can't use a real weapon.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Trobby888 on December 22, 2008, 05:28:39 am
SawnOff :
 
4 rounds per clip
Short Range
Large surface area of contact when it strikes
Ideal if you want to quickly take down a person (Though it can be an effort against a lagger)

Combat :

7 rounds per clip
Short Range
Reasonable surface area of contact when it strikes
Very slow body movement when you hold fire. In order to avoid opponent's attacks, you need to handle it like the stubby shotgun in MTA VC.

Deagle :

7 rounds per clip
Reasonable range
When it hits, it can chunk off some health from the opponent. However, deagle's striking spot is only a pin-point. Ie. the surface area of contact is very small. This means it's very hard to use against a lagger, or someone running around you in circles.

I prefer combat, beacuse, although stubby shotgun has a low rate of fire unlike the combat, combat works like the stubby shotgun in MTA VC.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: polopolo on December 22, 2008, 10:57:23 am
SawnOff has 2 rounds per clip, not 4. Think better guys!

But Deagle is just the best.. in whatever reason, if people also will use an weapon in the same category as the Deagle, it would be fair and also fun!

I hate people who uses Sawn-Off guns, kill cops and then says "PWND!! looser!" and shit like that... I more call them noobs.
And I also disagree with people that says we don't have skills to hide and something. but ones you see an Sawn-Off and see's it too late, everyone knows that when you get hit, that you get frozen, which means 4 shots in 2 sec while 1 sec frozen is enough to kill someone.

This discussion was much made in the admin section, and Aragorn and Gandalf will do something about this, they also agree this weapon is "too noob", and will take action.

Well, remember, when we all have an Sawn-Off, then it's fair.. UZI vs Sawn-Off = fair!!! Poor UZI get lost in 4.0, so that means the cops more complain. :(
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: JDC on December 22, 2008, 11:50:32 am
Uzi against Sawnoff isnt exactly fair, sawn-off has a lot of firepower, thats why noobs love it.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Oliver on December 22, 2008, 12:30:47 pm
I agree with the person who said that sawn-off shotgun should be one handed.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: adam_stevens on December 22, 2008, 01:25:49 pm
ive seen now quite a few people mentioning combat is short/medium range... i mean.. WTF!? its medium/long range, it shoots further than deagle and is much more accurate..

and to be honest, i dont really care if my opponent uses sawnoffs, i pwn anyone with anything in 1vs1 combat anyway, kthxbai :)
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: tiderman on December 22, 2008, 03:53:54 pm
Sawn-off is lame because all the people with "noobish" or no gun skill use it because they can't use a real weapon.
Yeah, that or.. It fucks up everything that stands in its bullets way. BTW what is a real weapon? Deagle? Because people say so? lol

Uzi against Sawnoff isnt exactly fair, sawn-off has a lot of firepower, thats why noobs love it.
Well, UZI's doesnt require an aim to take down an enemy, that's for sure.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Bianconeri on December 22, 2008, 11:47:00 pm
Yeah, that or.. It f**ks up everything that stands in its bullets way. BTW what is a real weapon? Deagle? Because people say so? lol
Well, UZI's doesnt require an aim to take down an enemy, that's for sure.

why deagle really is a weapon for real guys?
you need skills, it isnt easy to use it good,
any shotgun doesnt need skills to be used good, so its easy and not really for a guy

i dont like uzi, only drive by is good, aiming isnt good too and power same story
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: JDC on December 22, 2008, 11:50:11 pm
Well, UZI's doesnt require an aim to take down an enemy, that's for sure.

Only a few bullets hit, and it has shitty power against some people, especially laggers
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: hell1989 on December 23, 2008, 12:03:38 am
Combat all the way, noob-offs are incredibly lame and the Corleone Mafia doesn't like people using them. Now it takes some skill to use combat, because it has a delay to every shot like the deagle where as the tec9, uzi and combat u just run around and aim against the lag hoping to get a quick kill and takes no skill what so ever. Every time I see a ARPD using tec9 is really disappoints me as well.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: tiderman on December 23, 2008, 12:11:59 am
Only a few bullets hit, and it has shitty power against some people, especially laggers
Yeah, you spray the living shit out of people hoping at least some bullets will hit :P Btw shouldnt this weapon be the strongest against laggers?
Other people seem to hit me with all their bullets while Im not hitting with any.. But thats probably because of my suck ass close combat skills I guess

why deagle really is a weapon for real guys?
you need skills, it isnt easy to use it good,
any shotgun doesnt need skills to be used good, so its easy and not really for a guy

i dont like uzi, only drive by is good, aiming isnt good too and power same story
From what Ive seen, the pump action shotgun takes almost as much damage and has the same fire rate as the deagle..


Anyways, I shouldnt be here talking about which gun is good and what gun is not..  :lol:
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Austin on December 23, 2008, 01:59:14 am
Both are lame.

True.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: JDC on December 23, 2008, 05:26:02 am
Quote from: Hell Corleone
I see a ARPD using tec9 is really disappoints me as well.

Sometimes, we have to use it because Suspects have very heavy weapons such as M4 or Combat Shotgun. Also, we use it when we cannot afford ammunition.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Squeak on December 23, 2008, 08:00:18 am
I thought this was a thread about f*cking shotguns? Whoever compared a shotgun to a pistol is an injit.
They are two different types of weapons.
Title: Re: SA:MP Poll: Combat Shotgun or Sawn-off shotgun?
Post by: Gildor on December 23, 2008, 08:19:20 am
I prefer the Combat shotty, just better imo. Sawnoffs are an OK weapon, though I dont like staring down the barrel of one. :redface:
Sawnoffs are for people who want the job done quick, like Chase said. Maybe hitmen or something like that, but yeah some people use them for the sheer fact that they can potentially kill in 4 shots.
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