Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: hell1989 on January 15, 2009, 01:06:45 am
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The server itself is called ArgonathRPG (RPG) Role Playing Game, or is it Rocket Propelled Grenade?
"is a game in which the participants assume the roles of fictional characters.Participants determine the actions of their characters based on their characterization, and the actions succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines. Within the rules, players have the freedom to improvise; their choices shape the direction and outcome of the game."
But I see everyday people hanging around LSPD all day just chatting away on public chat and less focus on in-game activities or some are just waiting for events to occur to make a quick and easy $100k. People always complaining about "Oh noes, he isn't a HARCORE RPER!", and I agree, almost 80 percent of the server are just siting around waiting to chase criminals, wait for events, and just f**king around...
I remember RS1 when it was more about the RP then the cash...and no one wants to pay for RP items like I do almost everyday. I payed MrsS $700-1000 for some RP hookers...went to a bar and paid cash to a bartender for RP beers...went to beach and paid for RP hotdogs..and paid him extra..
I only own a sentinel, and a $250,000 business which no one gives a fack to drive to...I try to do /ad and sell some Zaibatsu Medicines and no one gives a crap but for one caller, who later said he would kill me for no apparent reason and when I saw that person later he starts to shoot at me...nice RP!
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I understand what you mean.. the otherday, I just wanted to do a little kidnap, not to earn money, my demand was like $800, but for the fun.. It took me like 2 hours to find someone, because everyone non-rped, or they were 'busy', so yeah, I think it sucks atm tbh, but hey, what the f**k we going to do? Just play with that 20% that do RP, the best possible solution.
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Hell i get where your coming from about /ad'ing stuff and no one gives a Crap, i tried to Sell Suits Yesterday for over an Hour and not one single person stopped and asked about buying a Suit. As myself being in FBI i can't do all the things i used to do and wish i still could (Probaly if i changed my name), i know am not a "Hardcore" RPer as most of my time is spend around doing FBI Work and RPing with fellow Agents and Criminals. As Wash mentioned about playing with the other 20% just let time pass and things will get back to normal sooner or later, people are going through adjustment periods.
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.......I try to do /ad and sell some Zaibatsu Medicines and no one gives a crap but for one caller, who later said he would kill me for no apparent reason and when I saw that person later he starts to shoot at me...nice RP!
I bought some "medicines" from u :D
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I had my own restaurant on El Corona, that outside shit.
I had 12 customers! And listen! The most people where new PEOPLE! Who RP'ed well!
So explain me that, it are not the new people only who dont want to RP.
I dont get it, anymore.
But I will continue with this ;)
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I had my own restaurant on El Corona, that outside shit.
I had 12 customers! And listen! The most people where new PEOPLE! Who RP'ed well!
So explain me that, it are not the new people only who dont want to RP.
I dont get it, anymore.
But I will continue with this ;)
Yeah Nexxt...its those guys, who are just hungry for the money, it came with the 0.2.2 and the Younger Generation in this server.
Argonath is not anymore about RP..its about money and power.
And yeah Nexxt, you know what Newcomers think, when they enter this server?
They think..what the hell am I supposed to do here, if they see an /ad New restaurant opened at El Corona, they automatically see..oh there could be some RP, because nothing else is up here, I will drive there and see what I can do. And yeah they bring effort with themselves, but theres not much of those situations where RP is involved.
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The server itself is called ArgonathRPG (RPG) Role Playing Game, or is it Rocket Propelled Grenade?
That made me laugh. :lol:
I understand what you say... Just take a look at Decy, he works for hours as bartender and hardly gets any costumer. :neutral:
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That made me laugh. :lol:
I understand what you say... Just take a look at Decy, he works for hours as bartender and hardly gets any costumer. :neutral:
Watahell, and what Decy is doing is awsome, he is one hell of a good example of ArgonathRPG, but too bad we also got bad examples :(. I would like to visit the store ingame allthough I do not play much but because Decy is putting an effort into roleplay I would be honored to go visit his store.
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Watahell, and what Decy is doing is awsome, he is one hell of a good example of ArgonathRPG, but too bad we also got bad examples :(. I would like to visit the store ingame allthough I do not play much but because Decy is putting an effort into roleplay I would be honored to go visit his store.
Yep, Decy is great cook/bartender roleplayer and he doesn't charge absurd prices, althought I always give him a big extra when possible. :D
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Wow alot of these kind of topics...
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Wow alot of these kind of topics...
they doed change argo.
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Hey mate
Before u make topics, Check how many of these are already wandering around in less than a month.
You people are making a crisis of it or what? :neutral:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26868.0
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26565.0
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26906.0
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=24784.0
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26552.0
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26805.0
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=26428.0
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=27076.0
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I don't get it. I see a lot of people agreeing with what you just said ... . So why don't all of you guys get together, and RP? No problems then!
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I had my own restaurant on El Corona, that outside shit.
I had 12 customers! And listen! The most people where new PEOPLE! Who RP'ed well!
So explain me that, it are not the new people only who dont want to RP.
I dont get it, anymore.
But I will continue with this ;)
question - did you get a DM match near your hot dog stand ? Mostly everytime i go to the hot dog stand at verona theres always someone who will try to DM and blow everyone up, im not talking about newbies.
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For me, roleplay on SA:MP especially could be anything else, except for fun.
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Not that im advertising, but a lot of the SAMP players could really take a lesson from the MTA:VC Community... I do agree when people say that SAMP Players dont want to spend money on nonexistend things, I mean, look at Charus' ammunation, it earns a lot, because it sells things that exist and can be used. However, look at the average business that sells RP things such as Suits, Zaibatsu Medicines, and etc, IT'S NEARLY BANKRUPT! On MTA:VC, the scripts are not as developed as varied as SAMP's (no offence MIB, they're awesome too.. places ftw) so people are made to RP, not that im blaming the scripts, since some people can still RP in SAMP like those in MTAVC.
When I do FBI Work, I end up very pleased when I chase a criminal that actually RPs in a pursuit... lots of people, and I'm not just talking about newbies, have the "I want attention so I'll just piss the cops off and get them to chase me" and purposely do crimes near us instead of actually RPing a crime like taking an old lady's purse.
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When some dumb retard comes with their non-rp'ism to get wanted, I just tell over /p 'X, I won't suspect you, piss off', and 95% of the cases they leave me alone and go bother some other naive cop.
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I do remeber the good RP times...
I guess my last memory is from 2.0... Glen Park group. We got payment for 2k if i remeber right from MrsS every week so we wont destroy her farm.
Now everyone says:"Fuck off my house wont break anyways,Kill me if you want i respawn right here again...."
Seriously everyone who posted here and agreed with hell then PLEASE start bringing the RP back on our community.
When we all Rp good and RP like you all said above we will suceed.
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Yeah Seskom, I understand where your arguements come from and I TOTALLY agree with them.
But seriously, we are like 3-6 guys who bother to do realistic and right RP, the rest simply doenst care of it anymore.
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It's ironic, there is no amount of nonRPness as large as this on MTAVC, where everyone is a good friend of each other (not that im advertising).
I'm seriously annoyed of those little sh**s (yes, I mean that.) who pull off the "bah, i dont care, me and my car will respawn, and my house and bizz cant be destroyed anyway". I mean, seriously. ONLY 1-9% of the Argonath SAMP Sub-Community will actually pay for RP things.
The few remaining people who RP properly on the Server really need to get together and show the nonRPers how it's done. If the nonRPers ignore it, well, let them. They'll end up in shit in one form or another someday.
And if you will just give me the SAMP Email, forget it. It doesnt work with Yahoo! Mail as well. (although Gandalf's works)
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Good posts guys, and I agree with all of you (I didn't knew Glen Park gang was bribing MrsS over a farm :lol:)
I want all who claim to roleplay every day and not just become suspect for "fun" to post their names on this topic.
I haven't been a suspect in 3 days and thats when I was trying to sell Zaibatsu meds and the police were trying to catch me in the act, so they sent in a informant to try to catch me, but I caught on before they had a chance and me and my partner kidnaped that person and brought him to KACC Military Refuel in Las venturas via Helicopter, about 4 FBI came (FBI captain, Jaaskaa, Chase, and other) and 6 SAPD (Pancher and more) I had a talk with Trujlio as he is head FBI speaker, and I demanded to have safe passage out and then I let hostage go. It all worked out and me and my partner escaped in our helicopter then cops suspected us. Two police helicopters were on us, and we decided to land to get a car. Well my partner got into another heli mid chase and that one blew up over Jizzy's Bridge, SF (pancher was close behind him :D)
I was still in car in SF, about 2 SAPD in cars and 1 cadet with pancher in heli. I had to stop and give up when my car was about to blow hehe. Then I was taken to FBI HQ and had a 45 minute talk with all FBI and even brought a Lawyer in. (I was RPing a smart tough guy, I acted like I didn't know good english and only Japanese when my lawyer arived :D)
All and all the whole RP took over 2 hours.
[Z]Hell
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In my opinion, the only way to make a nice RP its to make it VERY organized(Topic on forum,constant msn contact , etc). It takes like 30 minutes for organization, for 10 min of RP..People on ARgonath, have there friends with who they RP most, ppl that you know they RP with you, and they dont RP much to others cause they used to do it with small group of ppl..
Ppl shoud pay atention to other stuff to, like Edie`s hot dog stand, went nice, But many ppl was like: bah, dont wanna waste my time on non existing things etc..
Like few days ago, some gang was selling huge amounts of drugs, i started to talk to them, and they did that in a very nice RP way, that i buyed the drugs , even thou i didnt have no one to sell it or any idea what to do with it, With Edi hotdogs its the same, when i see intresting RP i try to nail it...
I just HOPE that when 4.0 is out, RP will get bether, ppl will start Rp like they used to.
In my RP character, i hope drugmarket woud reborn, maybe some animation when using drugs or efect, like slowmotion, color changes etc, so ppl woud start USING the drugs, not just selling it one on other.
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Yep, Decy is great cook/bartender roleplayer and he doesn't charge absurd prices, althought I always give him a big extra when possible. :D
You forgot about the times you robbed me :lol:
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I think Cofi is right. But even then its hard getting people to roleplay, and if they want to they are also busy alot of times. It diffiently needs organization skills.
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I think there is no sence to bring rp in this server, let it just be.
Want to rp, come to PLEASE DON"T ADVERTISE OTHER SERVERS.
You want to f**k around, deathmatch, easily become an admin to /kick ID/ban ID "stop roleplaying", asskiss, become a member of a clan that likes to chat all day at a server where you are supposed to play (why don't you start a conference at MSN), feel like a big guy while chatting to an admin in the hope that everybody sees it so the rest can become jealous, write LMAO LMFAO LOL OMFG etc. until your fingers bleed, become a rich businessman by having good contacts to the community so you get money from them, buy a buffalo, buy a cheetah, carjack, break the rules, flame in mainchat, do everything except roleplay, become an officer of a dm-partment, suspect innocent players, have a box infront of your name filled with letters, have a teamdeathmatch on a server where it's not allowed, carjack to drive a buffalo, beg for e-money, report players without to get an answer, waste your time.
..Then you are right here.
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I think there is no sence to bring rp in this server, let it just be.
Want to rp, come to PLEASE DON"T ADVERTISE OTHER SERVERS.
You want to f**k around, deathmatch, easily become an admin to /kick ID/ban ID "stop roleplaying", asskiss, become a member of a clan that likes to chat all day at a server where you are supposed to play (why don't you start a conference at MSN), feel like a big guy while chatting to an admin in the hope that everybody sees it so the rest can become jealous, write LMAO LMFAO LOL OMFG etc. until your fingers bleed, become a rich businessman by having good contacts to the community so you get money from them, buy a buffalo, buy a cheetah, carjack, break the rules, flame in mainchat, do everything except roleplay, become an officer of a dm-partment, suspect innocent players, have a box infront of your name filled with letters, have a teamdeathmatch on a server where it's not allowed, carjack to drive a buffalo, beg for e-money, report players without to get an answer, waste your time.
..Then you are right here.
Come to PLEASE DON"T ADVERTISE OTHER SERVERS,when you have EXACTLY the same,exept for first things...
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I think there is no sence to bring rp in this server, let it just be.
Want to rp, come to PLEASE DON"T ADVERTISE OTHER SERVERS.
You want to f**k around, deathmatch, easily become an admin to /kick ID/ban ID "stop roleplaying", asskiss, become a member of a clan that likes to chat all day at a server where you are supposed to play (why don't you start a conference at MSN), feel like a big guy while chatting to an admin in the hope that everybody sees it so the rest can become jealous, write LMAO LMFAO LOL OMFG etc. until your fingers bleed, become a rich businessman by having good contacts to the community so you get money from them, buy a buffalo, buy a cheetah, carjack, break the rules, flame in mainchat, do everything except roleplay, become an officer of a dm-partment, suspect innocent players, have a box infront of your name filled with letters, have a teamdeathmatch on a server where it's not allowed, carjack to drive a buffalo, beg for e-money, report players without to get an answer, waste your time.
..Then you are right here.
Hes kinda right..today I drove past a career ARPD Cadet saying "Please scroll your mousewheel" what kind of RP is that?
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Good posts guys, and I agree with all of you (I didn't knew Glen Park gang was bribing MrsS over a farm :lol:)
I want all who claim to roleplay every day and not just become suspect for "fun" to post their names on this topic.
I haven't been a suspect in 3 days and thats when I was trying to sell Zaibatsu meds and the police were trying to catch me in the act, so they sent in a informant to try to catch me, but I caught on before they had a chance and me and my partner kidnaped that person and brought him to KACC Military Refuel in Las venturas via Helicopter, about 4 FBI came (FBI captain, Jaaskaa, Chase, and other) and 6 SAPD (Pancher and more) I had a talk with Trujlio as he is head FBI speaker, and I demanded to have safe passage out and then I let hostage go. It all worked out and me and my partner escaped in our helicopter then cops suspected us. Two police helicopters were on us, and we decided to land to get a car. Well my partner got into another heli mid chase and that one blew up over Jizzy's Bridge, SF (pancher was close behind him :D)
I was still in car in SF, about 2 SAPD in cars and 1 cadet with pancher in heli. I had to stop and give up when my car was about to blow hehe. Then I was taken to FBI HQ and had a 45 minute talk with all FBI and even brought a Lawyer in. (I was RPing a smart tough guy, I acted like I didn't know good english and only Japanese when my lawyer arived :D)
All and all the whole RP took over 2 hours.
[Z]Hell
That was a Good Day the interrogation got boring after 15 Minutes but it was worth it.
I think there is no sence to bring rp in this server, let it just be.
Want to rp, come to PLEASE DON"T ADVERTISE OTHER SERVERS.
You want to f**k around, deathmatch, easily become an admin to /kick ID/ban ID "stop roleplaying", asskiss, become a member of a clan that likes to chat all day at a server where you are supposed to play (why don't you start a conference at MSN), feel like a big guy while chatting to an admin in the hope that everybody sees it so the rest can become jealous, write LMAO LMFAO LOL OMFG etc. until your fingers bleed, become a rich businessman by having good contacts to the community so you get money from them, buy a buffalo, buy a cheetah, carjack, break the rules, flame in mainchat, do everything except roleplay, become an officer of a dm-partment, suspect innocent players, have a box infront of your name filled with letters, have a teamdeathmatch on a server where it's not allowed, carjack to drive a buffalo, beg for e-money, report players without to get an answer, waste your time.
..Then you are right here.
Don't like RP on the server? Just Piss Off from the server then, and play on your PLEASE DON"T ADVERTISE OTHER SERVERS where am sure it's the same.
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Yes exactly, if your bitching about Argo's roleplay then the doors open for you to LEAVE.
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I think there is no sence to bring rp in this server, let it just be.
Want to rp, come to PLEASE DON"T ADVERTISE OTHER SERVERS.
You want to f**k around, deathmatch, easily become an admin to /kick ID/ban ID "stop roleplaying", asskiss, become a member of a clan that likes to chat all day at a server where you are supposed to play (why don't you start a conference at MSN), feel like a big guy while chatting to an admin in the hope that everybody sees it so the rest can become jealous, write LMAO LMFAO LOL OMFG etc. until your fingers bleed, become a rich businessman by having good contacts to the community so you get money from them, buy a buffalo, buy a cheetah, carjack, break the rules, flame in mainchat, do everything except roleplay, become an officer of a dm-partment, suspect innocent players, have a box infront of your name filled with letters, have a teamdeathmatch on a server where it's not allowed, carjack to drive a buffalo, beg for e-money, report players without to get an answer, waste your time.
..Then you are right here.
As Rusty said, piss off then.. oh and please request a delete for your account if you think that PLEASE DON"T ADVERTISE OTHER SERVERS is so f**king amazing..
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Off-topic: You can delete your forum account by going to "Profile" in the top of the page. Then go to the left of that page and under "Actions" it says "Delete this account".
On-topic: Didnt merc or somesone say that they "Will make a huge change in Argonath RPG" Yeah....hows that coming along?
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I'm just as sick as the next person with all these "Complain about RP Topics" if the RP is that bad and it's pissing you off so much, take a break from the Server.
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I think there is no sence to bring rp in this server, let it just be.
Want to rp, come to PLEASE DON"T ADVERTISE OTHER SERVERS.
You want to f**k around, deathmatch, easily become an admin to /kick ID/ban ID "stop roleplaying", asskiss, become a member of a clan that likes to chat all day at a server where you are supposed to play (why don't you start a conference at MSN), feel like a big guy while chatting to an admin in the hope that everybody sees it so the rest can become jealous, write LMAO LMFAO LOL OMFG etc. until your fingers bleed, become a rich businessman by having good contacts to the community so you get money from them, buy a buffalo, buy a cheetah, carjack, break the rules, flame in mainchat, do everything except roleplay, become an officer of a dm-partment, suspect innocent players, have a box infront of your name filled with letters, have a teamdeathmatch on a server where it's not allowed, carjack to drive a buffalo, beg for e-money, report players without to get an answer, waste your time.
..Then you are right here.
Lol, this is so embarassing. Not everyone comes to Argonath for RP,even developer didnt come to game for that.Most of times developer helps newcomers and some issues with people who stuck in glitches/bug but i dont see this is the reason that you should invite people to **-**.If u want to invite someone on LS-RP, at least make sure that they have the same ''brain'' as you ;),as most of us here do is to entertain and get entertained....i guess :P
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as most of us here do is to entertain and get entertained....i guess :P
Neo, if that's the point of this server i don't know what to say.
Argonath RPG - not Argonath Entertain.
The mainpoint of this server should be roleplay, not quiz, events and paydays.
If it's not, change Argonath RPG to Argonath Freeroam.
What Marcel said, and what Chance tried to say in every other topic is basically right, it is.
I was like them before, but you know what? f**k that, 'cause this is a game & you play 'cause it's fun.
If someone likes to do "OHOHOHOMGOGOGOGOG" 24/7 on the mainchat, let them.
If someone likes to do powergaming and metgaming 24/7, let them.
If someone likes to play strict rp, let them.
As long they have fun doing it & and everyone else having quite fun to. Why not keep doing it?
There is no rules who says it not allowed to do it, even if there should be. But that's not my point now.
Why change 'cause some guys want to play strict rp? IF they want to, go on LS-RP then 'cause that server is sooooo coooool.
There you got your strict rp with no possibillity to do something else. Why change Argo to something who already is there?
Sure, some things would be great if they changed, but not all of it. Seriously guys, why are you still here if it's so bad? And why are you still posting things on the forum if it's so bad? You have every right to leave. No one ever stopped you.
That's the good thing about argo, you have variation, no one single thing.
With the new script and so, i really hope more people will take the roleplay more seriously.
Everyone roleplays different and enjoys it in different kind of ways, everyone is not the same and will never be.
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Yes exactly, if your bad guying about Argo's roleplay then the doors open for you to LEAVE.
No shit, I leave.
And it's not all about roleplay, I agree. But there are just some things here that pisses me off, some people might know what I mean.
@MasterNeo
I know that not everybody comes here for roleplay, barely anyone.
Why don't you read my post again and again until you understand it ^^
@Rusty
No you wrong, as simple as that.
@Wash
PLEASE DON"T ADVERTISE OTHER SERVERS is an amazing roleplay server, right.
I just don't know what I am supposed to do in this server, sorry.
It's called RPG so roleplay? But it's freeroam, so I think drive around + deathmatch. But deathmatching is not allowed, so I'm confused.
..As WoodyL said, do whatever you like.
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Lol, this is so embarassing. Not everyone comes to Argonath for RP,even developer didnt come to game for that.Most of times developer helps newcomers and some issues with people who stuck in glitches/bug but i dont see this is the reason that you should invite people to LS-RP.If u want to invite someone on LS-RP, at least make sure that they have the same ''brain'' as you ;),as most of us here do is to entertain and get entertained....i guess :P
Your post doesn't make sense. :neutral:
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What I think Neo meant was that it was a wrong way of advertising the server.
But you are right Marcel, as I left SA:MP community for some months ago because lack of RP of some people, I now came to conclusion to find another SA:Mp server and now I must admit I made an account in LS RP just waiting for approval.
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@ Wash, Matthew and rusty:
Guys, why are you flaming this guy? Are you afraid? Do you want his post removed? Why?
I know why..., because you are fucking afraid! Afraid of the damn truth, state me a few arguements WHY Marcels expression is wrong.
Thanks.
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@ Wash, Matthew and rusty:
Guys, why are you flaming this guy? Are you afraid? Do you want his post removed? Why?
I know why..., because you are f**king afraid! Afraid of the damn truth, state me a few arguements WHY Marcels expression is wrong.
Thanks.
He is advertising other servers, thought.
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I think hes just showing us a place where Roleplay is the mainpoint and not OMGZ WTF PLZ.
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I think hes just showing us a place where Roleplay is the mainpoint and not OMGZ WTF PLZ.
Argonath forums are NOT the right place for advertising and presenting other 'places'!
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Argonath forums are NOT the right place for advertising and presenting other 'places'!
No one said OR did that, he was just informing us:
Advertising would be: GO TO THAT SERVER, IT IS THE BEST: IP GO TO THAT SERVER, IT IS THE BEST: IP GO TO THAT SERVER, IT IS THE BEST: IP GO TO THAT SERVER, IT IS THE BEST: IP
I would see a difference in that.
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@ Wash, Matthew and rusty:
Guys, why are you flaming this guy? Are you afraid? Do you want his post removed? Why?
I know why..., because you are f**king afraid! Afraid of the damn truth, state me a few arguements WHY Marcels expression is wrong.
Thanks.
Afraid of the Truth? Yeah am shi**ing myself here from it...
I don't care what the truth is if people have a problem with Roleplay go and teach those who aren't doing it instead of making Topics about it, this topic has it actually changed anything?
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Stop avertising other servers, instead of saying how good that server is on these forums, go on their forums and do so.
Besides... don't like? Leave.
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Afraid of the Truth? Yeah am shi**ing myself here from it...
I don't care what the truth is if people have a problem with Roleplay go and teach those who aren't doing it instead of making Topics about it, this topic has it actually changed anything?
This topic wont change anything in the Roleplaysituation of Argonath, also I dont want to tell 95% of the server to do Roleplay, they aint doing it anyways...so what.
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You all is kinda acting like small b i t ch e s, take a spliff while listening to Bob Marley and relax.
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That's why I said it has no sense to try to improve this server. There's only a handful of players that want to change something, and they all fail because nobody gives a f**k about their opinion, that's lame. Saying "don't like, leave" is the worsest excuse I've ever heard here. People moving out of this server because they are pissed at the community and because of the boredom, roleplay is only the third thing. Seriously, imagine you are a new player to this server that wants to have some fun.
First you can do is go and buy a weapon, since you have nothing better to do you go and kill somebody without a reason. The killed player reports you, and you get a kick/ban.
Then you go to the ARPD, since it's the only possible choice to have a right to kill players > Cops & robbers (there is a great server called like that).
You can also go hunt on players in a group, which leads to the same odd thing: Cops & robbers.
Sure, that can be fun, I also like to deathmatch on this server as civilian or cop.
But deathmatching is not allowed, so you get a kick.
But you can't do anything better here, the last thing you can do is to start roleplay: But only a small group of players wants to do that, and that's the group of players complaining, about to leave!
I remember times where the server was full, now I see only 15-20 players per day, doing nothing else than to go on /duty and chase the new players that dmed or the guys that are playing longer and killing in a group. The rest is just /p-ing.
"Don't like it? Leave"
I don't like it, and many other players don't like it, too.
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That is correct, i came ingame today trying to rp a hotdog stand, some players actually rped it well, but then there's the crazy freecop shooting at the hotdog stand and the other players like janar saying in local chat: OMFG, WTF, U, OMG, ROFL, ROFLMAO, ROFLCOPTERCHEESECAKE, off course not to mention the ARPD that just drives on the LEFT side of the road all day!
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That's why I said it has no sense to try to improve this server. There's only a handful of players that want to change something, and they all fail because nobody gives a f**k about their opinion, that's lame. Saying "don't like, leave" is the worsest excuse I've ever heard here. People moving out of this server because they are pissed at the community and because of the boredom, roleplay is only the third thing. Seriously, imagine you are a new player to this server that wants to have some fun.
First you can do is go and buy a weapon, since you have nothing better to do you go and kill somebody without a reason. The killed player reports you, and you get a kick/ban.
Then you go to the ARPD, since it's the only possible choice to have a right to kill players > Cops & robbers (there is a great server called like that).
You can also go hunt on players in a group, which leads to the same odd thing: Cops & robbers.
Sure, that can be fun, I also like to deathmatch on this server as civilian or cop.
But deathmatching is not allowed, so you get a kick.
But you can't do anything better here, the last thing you can do is to start roleplay: But only a small group of players wants to do that, and that's the group of players complaining, about to leave!
I remember times where the server was full, now I see only 15-20 players per day, doing nothing else than to go on /duty and chase the new players that dmed or the guys that are playing longer and killing in a group. The rest is just /p-ing.
"Don't like it? Leave"
I don't like it, and many other players don't like it, too.
Now, I want ONE single person to say that this is NOT true + Arguements!
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I have been playing on SA:MP properly for a couple of days now, There are three sections of players that I have seen...
1. - Greedy Non RPers - Rulebreakers
2. - Regular Players Who Rulebreak When You Dont RP. (Some guy jacked me when I didn't follow his car, two days ago)
3. - Really Good RPers...
The proper RPers on SA:MP can really RP, but there are loads who claim to RP, but do other things.
And K5ff3r, Noone cares if you don't like it, If you are not a regular in Argonath, you have no position or right to comment on others behavior, no matter what they do.
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I have been playing on SA:MP properly for a couple of days now, There are three sections of players that I have seen...
1. - Greedy Non RPers - Rulebreakers
2. - Regular Players Who Rulebreak When You Dont RP. (Some guy jacked me when I didn't follow his car, two days ago)
3. - Really Good RPers...
The proper RPers on SA:MP can really RP, but there are loads who claim to RP, but do other things.
And K5ff3r, Noone cares if you don't like it, If you are not a regular in Argonath, you have no position or right to comment on others behavior, no matter what they do.
He is more a regular than you.
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So? Dont interfeare, im not talking to you Carhartt
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So? Dont interfeare, im not talking to you Carhartt
Welcome to the internet!
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So? Dont interfeare, im not talking to you Carhartt
Just told you that he is playing longer on Argonath than you.
Whatever, ...
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So? Dont interfeare, im not talking to you Carhartt
Its an open forum, not a one to one conversation.
Don't act like a complete dick, he can say what he wants and so can you. You don't have any right to come here and then basically insult a regular, saying that they are not important when you yourself have only been on the SA-MP server for mere days! How ironic and dumb you sound.
Also:
Welcome to the internet!
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Its people like you I really hate, Who start for no reason, This is why Argonath is so corrupt, cause of People like You.
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Its people like you I really hate, Who start for no reason, This is why Argonath is so corrupt, cause of People like You.
Tupac, if your going to come to SA:MP and start causing shit, then don't come please..
So? Dont interfeare, im not talking to you Carhartt
I hate hypocrites. I was having a little arguement with Victor, and you stuck your big head in saying some shit like "u r right there victor" when you didn't anything about what was going on..
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Man, I can just laugh about your posts here, why don't you all chill the fuck out eh? Argonath is not a war place. Just relax!
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Its an open forum, not a one to one conversation.
Don't act like a complete dick, he can say what he wants and so can you. You don't have any right to come here and then basically insult a regular, saying that they are not important when you yourself have only been on the SA-MP server for mere days! How ironic and dumb you sound.
Can you stop insulting players? If you think you are any better than him - you are not, now please quit being arrogant and having this attitude.
I can also predict that you are going to take some smart-ass comment from your deep "I am smarter than you, because i know English" bag and start giving to everybody. Come on man, we don't need...
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Thank you Legand. :)
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Argonath has changed alot not for the better there are some good RPers but it isnt like it was a year ago, im not saying it was perfect a year ago but there are alot more people now who play argonath to make money...
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People who make these god damn topics think they are helping Argonath, when in reality they are causing alot of harm. All this topic has done is cause arguement and players to turn against players, admins against admins..... Mere words will not make the server any better, so this topic was and is now completely worthless. All it does is show the dark side of the players, nothing else...
And im talking about everyone involved, even me. So dont say "Wow Matt, your DOING IT TOO lLOLOLAMAOLAOLOL!!"
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That's why I said it has no sense to try to improve this server. There's only a handful of players that want to change something, and they all fail because nobody gives a f**k about their opinion, that's lame. Saying "don't like, leave" is the worsest excuse I've ever heard here. People moving out of this server because they are pissed at the community and because of the boredom, roleplay is only the third thing. Seriously, imagine you are a new player to this server that wants to have some fun.
First you can do is go and buy a weapon, since you have nothing better to do you go and kill somebody without a reason. The killed player reports you, and you get a kick/ban.
Then you go to the ARPD, since it's the only possible choice to have a right to kill players > Cops & robbers (there is a great server called like that).
You can also go hunt on players in a group, which leads to the same odd thing: Cops & robbers.
Sure, that can be fun, I also like to deathmatch on this server as civilian or cop.
But deathmatching is not allowed, so you get a kick.
But you can't do anything better here, the last thing you can do is to start roleplay: But only a small group of players wants to do that, and that's the group of players complaining, about to leave!
I remember times where the server was full, now I see only 15-20 players per day, doing nothing else than to go on /duty and chase the new players that dmed or the guys that are playing longer and killing in a group. The rest is just /p-ing.
"Don't like it? Leave"
NOT true.
Or should I say occasionally half true.
1. Seriously, you should be able to distinguish Cops and Robbers from Roleplaying a Cop. Yes, I know, some people just do it for money, but the other Cops (and Feds... especially me) who work not for the money hate the moneycops and we really try our best to be good law enforcers instead of Bounty Hunters!
2. If you think Cops and Robbers is so great, go there. SAPD / ARPD controls Criminal Population within the bounds of RP and Rules (Except for them little freecops... and the occasional officer, what a disappointment... who go around with $ signs in their eyes and 'cha-ching' sounds in their minds). I have never had problems with this back in the VCPD (MTA:VC) where I came from!
3. When you are new to this Server and you DM someone, you usually get Frozen and told the rules, and if you already know the rules and still keep DMing, THAT is when the Kick-Ban thing is applied to you... Admins try their best not to scare away new players who may become potential RPers and Admins, you know.*
the last thing you can do is to start roleplay
4. You act like it's impossible to RP while having fun. You should have seen the invasion of the GiacJr (<3) clones, we RPed as Giac Clones and it was really fun! You see, a lot of people are losing their fun on Argonath because they DO NOT give enough effort to RP while having fun! They just go for one or the other! If people have been missing the points behind my messages in previous topics such as this one, let me make it big so that even people who need eyeglasses can read it without their eyeglasses!
The point of Argonath RPG is FUN RP, if you want roleplay which is strict, downright boring, and not fun at all, then you're better off in a Server with wannabe RPers who toggle their OOC Channels and remove blips on their radar!!!
If you can't do it on your own, then I suggest you get an old MTA:VC player to help you... really, there's so little of this "SA:MP's nonRPers problem" in MTA:VC.
If anyone is offended by my posts, I apologize in advance.
*based on my observations of DMer-Admin interactions before
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The point of Argonath RPG is FUN RP, if you want roleplay which is strict, downright boring, and not fun at all, then you're better off in a Server with wannabe RPers who toggle their OOC Channels and remove blips on their radar!!!
If you can't do it on your own, then I suggest you get an old MTA:VC player to help you... really, there's so little of this "SA:MP's nonRPers problem" in MTA:VC.
If anyone is offended by my posts, I apologize in advance.
*based on my observations of DMer-Admin interactions before
They should rename it "Argonath FUN RPG" now.
There is no "downright boring" RP, it's unless you metagame/powergame/non-rp..
Them servers with "wannabe RPers" is bullshit, how can you be a wannabe RPer, your either a RPer or not.. :/
I've seen you complain about shitty RP so what I quoted above is wrong.
Let me tell you what Argonath RPG is..
Argonath RPG is a server that isn't always RP, it's a server that is RP & freeroam & basically fun..
Explained:
RP = From them people who do acctually RP at Argonath.
Freeroam = a lot of people just drive around and wait for stuff to happen, like paydays/events and just talk on mainchat.
Fun = Events.
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4. You act like it's impossible to RP while having fun. You should have seen the invasion of the GiacJr (<3) clones, we RPed as Giac Clones and it was really fun! You see, a lot of people are losing their fun on Argonath because they DO NOT give enough effort to RP while having fun! They just go for one or the other! If people have been missing the points behind my messages in previous topics such as this one, let me make it big so that even people who need eyeglasses can read it without their eyeglasses!
That "Giac Invasion" was some made up bullshit, it was deathmatch. You guys attacked everyone who didn't change his nname to GiacJr.
Yeah how funny, in my opinion it is just childish & it was pissing off others who didn't want to be involved.
The point of Argonath RPG is FUN RP, if you want roleplay which is strict, downright boring, and not fun at all, then you're better off in a Server with wannabe RPers who toggle their OOC Channels and remove blips on their radar!!!
Those guys actually understood roleplay (My view on RP), I wouldn't call them wannabes.
If you can't do it on your own, then I suggest you get an old MTA:VC player to help you... really, there's so little of this "SA:MP's nonRPers problem" in MTA:VC.
Could everybody stop with this pathetic MTA:VC crap? IceBoy told me that none is able to roleplay properly on that server, so don't try to tell us how wonderful it is. We don't care, this is SAMP.
Uh and yeah, nice post there Marcel, I fully agree.
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Could everybody stop with this pathetic MTA:VC crap? IceBoy told me that none is able to roleplay properly on that server, wonderful I can say. :rofl:
Today (yesterday now...) I've had excellent fun on MTA:VC when roleplaying a house party and playing hide and seek (radar and nick display turned off).
Don't compare MTA:VC and SAMP if you haven't played on both.
And by the way, MTA:VC is about creativity and common sense - not about scripts/server functions and whining about RP/nonRP because someone didn't add brackets to local chat.
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That "Giac Invasion" was some made up bullshit, it was deathmatch. You guys attacked everyone who didn't change his nname to GiacJr.
Yeah how funny, in my opinion it is just childish & it was pissing off others who didn't want to be involved.
Those guys actually understood roleplay (My view on RP), I wouldn't call them wannabes.
Could everybody stop with this pathetic MTA:VC crap? IceBoy told me that none is able to roleplay properly on that server, so don't try to tell us how wonderful it is. We don't care, this is SAMP.
Uh and yeah, nice post there Marcel, I fully agree.
First of all, I'd like to apologize for the upcoming references.
1. The Giac Invasion was players having fun... on Argonath, RP is just second in priority to fun, because the reason why Argonath was set up in the first place is so that players can have fun together AS A COMMUNITY!!!.... unlike those wannabe servers which have "RolePlay" in their names and no blips on their radar.
2. Those guys on Valhalla and LS-RP / SA-RP have set up RL-RPGs where everyone roleplays strict, downright boring, and barely fun. If you hate it when Argonath players have fun, leave us and go to those people "who understand RolePlay"!
3. Don't you dare call MTA:VC pathetic... it's not the quantity but the QUALITY that counts...
MTA:VC
-Few players
-Less Server Functions than SA:MP
-Most of the players can RP well, and this excludes the Admins Team
-Everybody knows each other
-Most people teach new players how to RP instead of looking down on them
-No whining about nonRP ("OMG noob you cant RP, know the diffrence between IC and OOC!")
-Good, old fashioned fun where everyone is happy
SA:MP
-Loads of players
-Many Server Functions (ajail, freeze, helpmeup)
-Few of the Non-Admin players can actually RP well
-People know only a few others closely, and know only the names of all the others
-Most people turn away new players, brand them as nonRPers, and look down on them (Freecops, for example... some of them are really good)
-Shitloads of whining and complaining ("Learn to roleplay, noobs!" "Zomg you cant RP!" "Go away I dont want to RP with you")
-Approximately 1/4 of the Server Population prefers Vallhalla-style RP, which is strict and boring. When players have fun, other players scorn them, brand them as nonRPers, and want to end their fun.
Carhartt, I will put this in the open.
If you look down on players having fun and prefer strict RP, then you would be happier in an RLRPG.
Do you see my point now? If you dont, tell me so that I will put this whole god damn post into large letters so everyone can read them!
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MTA:VC
-Few players
-Less Server Functions than SA:MP
-Most of the players can RP well, and this excludes the Admins Team
-Everybody knows each other
-Most people teach new players how to RP instead of looking down on them
-No whining about nonRP ("OMG noob you cant RP, know the diffrence between IC and OOC!")
-Good, old fashioned fun where everyone is happy
SA:MP
-Loads of players
-Many Server Functions (ajail, freeze, helpmeup)
-Few of the Non-Admin players can actually RP well
-People know only a few others closely, and know only the names of all the others
-Most people turn away new players, brand them as nonRPers, and look down on them (Freecops, for example... some of them are really good)
-Shitloads of whining and complaining ("Learn to roleplay, noobs!" "Zomg you cant RP!" "Go away I dont want to RP with you")
-Approximately 1/4 of the Server Population prefers Vallhalla-style RP, which is strict and boring. When players have fun, other players scorn them, brand them as nonRPers, and want to end their fun.
Few non-admins can acctually RP well? What does that mean? If your a admin it means you can RP really good? my ass.. most of the admins can't RP at all.. they're not admins for they're RP abilities..
Yes, some of the new guys a really good, that doesn't mean that players go to them randomly and say "your a shit RPer". The ones that are good are rewarded, if I take the cop system, they will get official cadet then officer.
Tupac who is from MTA:VC came on SA:MP and started complaining saying "I don't want to RP" "I RP my style" etc..
Again JDC, I am having to tell you all roleplay is fun if your a roleplayer... whether it's from Argonath or any other server in this world..
If SA:MP is so shit and you can't stop bitching about it, then go to MTA:VC, where you have amazing quality etc.. don't play SA:MP.
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When I talked about "this excludes the admins team / Few of the Non-Admin players", I did not specifically imply that admins are better than regular players all the time, some regular players are better than some admins, only they're inactive / gone or forgotten, but the active ones get rewarded eventually.
Believe it or not, your attitude affects your RP style and your RP style can also affect your attitude, have you ever seen an admin who doesnt know how to Roleplay in Argonath?
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When I talked about "this excludes the admins team / Few of the Non-Admin players", I did not specifically imply that admins are better than regular players all the time, some regular players are better than some admins, only they're inactive / gone or forgotten, but the active ones get rewarded eventually.
Believe it or not, your attitude affects your RP style and your RP style can also affect your attitude, have you ever seen an admin who doesnt know how to Roleplay in Argonath?
sigh..
JDC, people do not get administrator rights for being good at roleplay..
I know many many many many admins that cannot RP.. being a admin does NOT mean your a good RPer, it means that you just behaved and did good..
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-Few of the Non-Admin players can actually RP well
Okey, i tried to be nice in my last reply, but who the f**k do you think you are?
50% of the admins are so screwed up so it don't even make any sense. Since they've become admins they haven't even rped AS THEY USED TO DO!
Don't get me wrong, some of the admins are really good, they really are. But who the f**k are you telling that the "non-admins players" can rp well?
I got so mad about this thing so... i don't know what to say.
Just because we don't wanna be admins don't mean we can't rp. Calling Argonath RPG as a RP server when all of you got the opinion that the server should be a FUN Server or a Entertainment server. TWO admins said that, SERIOUSLY.
I'M HERE TO ROLEPLAY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT RPG STANDS FOR. RENAME THE SERVER TO SOMETHING ELSE IF THIS IS NOT THE MAINPOINT OF THE SERVER.
JDC, my opinion of you before you had this admin-trial-shitty was very good.
Now it's totaly different, this is totaly damn wrong. You are not better in any ways, than you were before just 'cause they picked you as an admin.
Legend, Stof, Jaaskaa, Lionz, Brains are examples of good admins in my eyes. (Some more)
But what some of the admins are writing in this topic makes me wanna puke, it's so ridiculous.
I have no more words to write...
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What I think Neo meant was that it was a wrong way of advertising the server.
But you are right Marcel, as I left SA:MP community for some months ago because lack of RP of some people, I now came to conclusion to find another SA:Mp server and now I must admit I made an account in LS RP just waiting for approval.
Thats what im tryin to say and..some of thing there is my opinion :).Not meant to get you guys angry. Sorry if i do wrong :D
EDIT 1 :
Hmm..speaking about this topic, this forum is no different with our server :D. Subject of this topic ''What is Roleplay on Argonath?'', and we are out of topic. Just like what happen on server. Still, server still has a very very bit of RP stuff everyday. About the ''ArgonathRPG'' name...You guys better ask the developer why they did not change the server name to ''ArgonathEntertain''. Some people love to do their own business at Argonath. Some of them chatting,tryin to keep they wealth growing up and stuff meaning that they are rejecting any RP that conttains money such as robbery,kidnapping and stuff. Let them be, you guys forget that they are much more place in Argonath that are always empty. I guess the ''wise/complete/righteous/never done wrong/always did stuff on IC roleplayer'' can gather on somewhere on desert and start locking yourself there and keep roleplaying all the time.
I dont know how to explain my feeling about some of the comments that you guys thrown here.So i guess if my comment is to much on this topic, I am really sorry.
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can gather on somewhere on desert and start locking yourself there and keep roleplaying all the time.
That's how you would like to handle the roleplayers at this server?
Wow JDC, changing the name to GiacJr, running around and kill people that don't have the same name is not roleplay.
It's more like organized deathmatching. Sure it can be fun, but I really don't know why you think it is..
If that's ROLEPLAY for you, you can't write a shit about it.
And why you are involding MTA:VC? We are talking about THIS server only, I don't give a bloody f**k about other servers on SA:MP or MTA whatever, because we are discussing about the RP on Argonath RPG.
When we would talk about NAME REMOVED, we wouldn't talk about the rp there. Seriously, open your eyes.
Your point of view is that we want rp everywhere, /facepalm.
Want RP? Go to a rp server.
Want deathmatch? Go to a deathmatch server.
Now it's unclear if this is a roleplay server as it's very unorganized, that's what the topic is about.
Not about turning off blips on the map what is actually "very rp".
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First of all, I'd like to apologize for the upcoming references.
1. The Giac Invasion was players having fun... on Argonath, RP is just second in priority to fun, because the reason why Argonath was set up in the first place is so that players can have fun together AS A COMMUNITY!!!.... unlike those wannabe servers which have "RolePlay" in their names and no blips on their radar.
2. Those guys on Valhalla and LS-RP / SA-RP have set up RL-RPGs where everyone roleplays strict, downright boring, and barely fun. If you hate it when Argonath players have fun, leave us and go to those people "who understand RolePlay"!
3. Don't you dare call MTA:VC pathetic... it's not the quantity but the QUALITY that counts...
MTA:VC
-Few players
-Less Server Functions than SA:MP
-Most of the players can RP well, and this excludes the Admins Team
-Everybody knows each other
-Most people teach new players how to RP instead of looking down on them
-No whining about nonRP ("OMG noob you cant RP, know the diffrence between IC and OOC!")
-Good, old fashioned fun where everyone is happy
SA:MP
-Loads of players
-Many Server Functions (ajail, freeze, helpmeup)
-Few of the Non-Admin players can actually RP well
-People know only a few others closely, and know only the names of all the others
-Most people turn away new players, brand them as nonRPers, and look down on them (Freecops, for example... some of them are really good)
-Shitloads of whining and complaining ("Learn to roleplay, noobs!" "Zomg you cant RP!" "Go away I dont want to RP with you")
-Approximately 1/4 of the Server Population prefers Vallhalla-style RP, which is strict and boring. When players have fun, other players scorn them, brand them as nonRPers, and want to end their fun.
Carhartt, I will put this in the open.
If you look down on players having fun and prefer strict RP, then you would be happier in an RLRPG.
Do you see my point now? If you dont, tell me so that I will put this whole god damn post into large letters so everyone can read them!
How RP is cloning someone -.-
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And why you are involding MTA:VC? We are talking about THIS server only, I don't give a bloody f**k about other servers on SA:MP or MTA whatever, because we are discussing about the RP on Argonath RPG.
I guess that's because Argonath has a server on MTA:VC. It is the first and oldest Argonath server by the way. I'm wondering how could you not know that.
And if you so much dislike this server - what are you doing here still? Leaving as much shit as possible before leaving?
PS:
@ JDC, and others too - more facts, less opinions.
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We don't give a fuck about MTA:VC, because we don't play on there, we're trying to improve the SAMP server, so your fact didn't make much sense.
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That's how you would like to handle the roleplayers at this server?
Wow JDC, changing the name to GiacJr, running around and kill people that don't have the same name is not roleplay.
It's more like organized deathmatching. Sure it can be fun, but I really don't know why you think it is..
If that's ROLEPLAY for you, you can't write a shit about it.
And why you are involding MTA:VC? We are talking about THIS server only, I don't give a bloody f**k about other servers on SA:MP or MTA whatever, because we are discussing about the RP on Argonath RPG.
When we would talk about novacaine, we wouldn't talk about the rp there. Seriously, open your eyes.
Your point of view is that we want rp everywhere, /facepalm.
Want RP? Go to a rp server.
Want deathmatch? Go to a deathmatch server.
Now it's unclear if this is a roleplay server as it's very unorganized, that's what the topic is about.
Not about turning off blips on the map what is actually "very rp".
That was not my point of view. you guys want a complete toleplay in RPG server, i admit that i didnt even RP some days because helpin newcomers and rulebreakers.SO if u want RP? u can do it at Argonath,want Deathmatch? <--- that is why admin have no time to RP.BTW, that is not how i handle roleplayers. you can handle yourself :), you should not have complain about people refuse to roleplay/Non-roleplaying.
You speaking alot about others that Non-Rping. You dont have to ask them to leave...why dont you ask them to be like you?, take an initiative to make the server good instead of commenting on others behaviour.
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we're trying to improve the SAMP server
How? By pointing out how many "nonRPers" there are?
Sorry, I think I've missed something out.
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Yes, you've missed alot.
Just read the whole topic..
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I can understand your frustrations, but i'm also getting sick of all these topics from people whining about how bad the roleplay is.
Got a problem with the roleplay, don't think it's good enough? Then show the people how good you can roleplay and make them into good roleplayers, be a rolemodel, making a topic about it is not going to help.
Ofcourse, it makes you feel good because you feel like you've done something to help this community. But infact it's the other way around, people read this stuff and think: 'Oh, he's right..' and they start feeling like they are not good enough. Does that help according to you? Not to me...
So, why not start your own 1337 roleplaying group as most of us like to say. And show us all how we should roleplay, according to your standards.
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God....stop all this daydreaming of MTA:VC, the RP is the same as in SA:MP, dont tell me something off...ohhh its the oldest server so its the best RP, what is this bullshit?
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Carharrt, How can you call MTA:VC pathetic, do you even think before you say anything, The only thing the MTA:VC people are saying that MTA:VC is more stable RP then SA:MP.
The reason I started playing on SA:MP for a couple of days, is to see how people react to the way MTA:VC people roleplay, I've seen so many things, people complaning about non-RP, others just rulebrekaing when you don't RP.
Before you call MTA:VC Pathetic, think of the reason why others are complaining about SA:MP, And let me tell you one more thing.
Argonath is corrupt, either you like it or not.
I hate hypocrites. I was having a little arguement with Victor, and you stuck your big head in saying some shit like "u r right there victor" when you didn't anything about what was going on..
Wash, I saw all what you told him, He said "why would a underboss of a mafia let himself get kidnapped", thats why I said I have to agree with him on that one, I dont get why people get annoyed when others express views, just because they are true...
If someone dosent want to RP, they dont have to, There is no point of RPing if your not having fun, Thats one thing I think loads of people don't understand on SA:MP.
Argonath RPG dosent have to be "strictly" as RL would be, Thats why we have events and loads of other fun things.
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I can understand your frustrations, but i'm also getting sick of all these topics from people whining about how bad the roleplay is.
Got a problem with the roleplay, don't think it's good enough? Then show the people how good you can roleplay and make them into good roleplayers, be a rolemodel, making a topic about it is not going to help.
Ofcourse, it makes you feel good because you feel like you've done something to help this community. But infact it's the other way around, people read this stuff and think: 'Oh, he's right..' and they start feeling like they are not good enough. Does that help according to you? Not to me...
So, why not start your own 1337 roleplaying group as most of us like to say. And show us all how we should roleplay, according to your standards.
WOW
For you it's all about this topic, that's just stupid.
Don't be such an ignorant person, we tried to improve stuff here, you just never noticed it.
Instead of writing stuff like "no sense, why don't you go away" you should think about this,
and try to help us, that's just pathetic. Be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem.
Because of people like you, the server will always have something we can complain about,
change it.
Carharrt, How can you call MTA:VC pathetic, do you even think before you say anything, The only thing the MTA:VC people are saying that MTA:VC is more stable RP then SA:MP.
The reason I started playing on SA:MP for a couple of days, is to see how people react to the way MTA:VC people roleplay, I've seen so many things, people complaning about non-RP, others just rulebrekaing when you don't RP.
Before you call MTA:VC Pathetic, think of the reason why others are complaining about SA:MP, And let me tell you one more thing.
Argonath is corrupt, either you like it or not.
We are having a discussion about Argonath RPG here at SA:MP, not MTA.
Whoever involded this..
And you telling him to think before he speaks.. check your own posts.
I can't find words for it..
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i cannot belive you are having this conversation but...
look i rly dont play much, for personal reasons
but as i recal if you dont rp you dont play in argonath, if you insult you dont play in argonath, IF YOU BREAK THE RULES YOU DONT PLAY IN ARGONATH BASICLY! THATS WHY RULES EXIST
so why all this rush?
respect yourselves and the others around you...
theres no need to get angry at the world cos you dont like the server or how its being managed!
i dont like my girlfriends mother, i dont have to break up with her cause of that! if you know what i mean
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Guys,
is anyone of you seeing this discussion is getting out of hand?
Smaller Communities = Time for (basicly) everyone, Listening ear to everyone
Larger Communities = Not time for everyone, beceause there are things to taken care of first. And i think everyone of us here can understand that, don't we? I cannot blame anyone for that as i said before, you have things to take care of first, beceause the complex size of the game, The complex amount of players wich the administrators need to watch over.
It's the same principal as a little town in the middle of nowhere or New York City.
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You are trying to improve the SA:MP server? Hi-hi-hi-hi-hi, you are fun, guys.
You are trying to improve the SA:MP server by advertising **** servers and shitting on Argonath. If you seriously think this would help in any way to improve the server, you are VERY wrong and obviously you certainly lack common sense.
Here is an idea, Aragorn and Gandalf are currently very bussy, they cannot be on forums 24/7 and they probably haven't even seen this topic at all. All of you keep arguing here about what is roleplay and what is not, but nobody really thinks about how we could change it.
Ok, there is an idea for you. Go and speak with the SA:MP developers (currently Gimli, as mister Fasi is bussy with scripts or something), then organize (with their help if possible) a big ROLEPLAY event, not some "Win 500k with race" event, but a roleplay one, like creating a roleplay situation and involving atleast 25-30 people in it.
This way, you could really see who has desire to roleplay, who has ability to roleplay and who lacks them both....
This is just an idea, but seriously, think about it - such topics and arguing and shitting on server and players, none of this would help. Just be creative and think of something else, instead of all this fighting and swearing around the forums, that ain't a solution.
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**** this
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fantastic! lets all be friends
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xD
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OH MY GAWD it's Al :O
Getting on topic...
Look, im saying this to everyone. If you prefer a strict RLRPG to Argonath's RP, then go there!
Whenever someone has fun you people always have to scorn it. You people always have to call it DM. You people always want to end it. You people always brand them as nonRPers.
What is wrong with you?
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You are trying to improve the SA:MP server? Hi-hi-hi-hi-hi, you are fun, guys.
You are trying to improve the SA:MP server by advertising **** servers and shitting on Argonath. If you seriously think this would help in any way to improve the server, you are VERY wrong and obviously you certainly lack common sense.
Here is an idea, Aragorn and Gandalf are currently very bussy, they cannot be on forums 24/7 and they probably haven't even seen this topic at all. All of you keep arguing here about what is roleplay and what is not, but nobody really thinks about how we could change it.
Ok, there is an idea for you. Go and speak with the SA:MP developers (currently Gimli, as mister Fasi is bussy with scripts or something), then organize (with their help if possible) a big ROLEPLAY event, not some "Win 500k with race" event, but a roleplay one, like creating a roleplay situation and involving atleast 25-30 people in it.
This way, you could really see who has desire to roleplay, who has ability to roleplay and who lacks them both....
This is just an idea, but seriously, think about it - such topics and arguing and shitting on server and players, none of this would help. Just be creative and think of something else, instead of all this fighting and swearing around the forums, that ain't a solution.
Here we go, Argonath can't do RP by itself....
Always Gimli has to say something like : OHHH BIG RP EVENT ALL COME, and all will come. But if we organize something ourselves..no one gives a shit.
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Whenever someone has fun you people always have to scorn it. You people always have to call it DM. You people always want to end it. You people always brand them as nonRPers.
Define fun please. What's fun for you?
Clooning 97 Giac's on a rp server. abusing cmds, deathmatch, etc etc. ?
Or maybe /me farts *run bunnyhop run* ?
Here we go, Argonath can't do RP by itself....
Always Gimli has to say something like : OHHH BIG RP EVENT ALL COME, and all will come. But if we organize something ourselves..no one gives a shit.
It's all about the money...
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Here we go, Argonath can't do RP by itself....
Always Gimli has to say something like : OHHH BIG RP EVENT ALL COME, and all will come. But if we organize something ourselves..no one gives a shit.
I am afraid this is exactly what I mean.
You give it a try, create (you and a couple of other good roleplayers like Carhartt, Iceboy, Merc, Que, etcetera) a big roleplay event. I mean not just some event like race or run to win a million, but a good roleplay scenario, with a lot of people involved and professional roleplay.
When you do this, you can invite all people. Whoever will come, you will know that he is a good roleplayer and you can create a small (or big, depends) circle of roleplayers, who could have fun between themselves, roleplaying strict, without farting, /p, moneyhunger and so on... And you let the others be powerhungry and do "/p LOLOLOL OMGOMG" - why would you care, you are having fun while roleplay a strict and funny situation... realistic aswell.
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Here we go, Argonath can't do RP by itself....
Always Gimli has to say something like : OHHH BIG RP EVENT ALL COME, and all will come. But if we organize something ourselves..no one gives a shit.
It's all about the money...
Its about friends and fun...newcomers starts with money and regulars does give some :money: to newcomers in RP ways :D.
I did not see why people hate people so much with people that love to gain money.Most people will make event big business with they money...so what is the problem?
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I did not see why people hate people so much with people that love to gain money.Most people will make event big business with they money...so what is the problem?
I love to gain money, but i do it in rp. Sure, one event once and a while wouldn't be wrong, but to have like 4-5 each day is just bad.
You don't even have to roleplay to gain cash, you can just sit there and wait for events.. and that's totaly wrong IMO.
Earn what you deserve.
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Yep, you can avoid having much event. i like it. And i guess you cannot stop others to go to the event.Money can be gained in any way as they like, and they deserve it. Event is not easy at all.Remember that this is not so so so Real. and yet our server is not perfect.
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Carharrt, How can you call MTA:VC pathetic, do you even think before you say anything, The only thing the MTA:VC people are saying that MTA:VC is more stable RP then SA:MP.
The reason I started playing on SA:MP for a couple of days, is to see how people react to the way MTA:VC people roleplay, I've seen so many things, people complaning about non-RP, others just rulebrekaing when you don't RP.
Before you call MTA:VC Pathetic, think of the reason why others are complaining about SA:MP, And let me tell you one more thing.
Argonath is corrupt, either you like it or not.
Wash, I saw all what you told him, He said "why would a underboss of a mafia let himself get kidnapped", thats why I said I have to agree with him on that one, I dont get why people get annoyed when others express views, just because they are true...
If someone dosent want to RP, they dont have to, There is no point of RPing if your not having fun, Thats one thing I think loads of people don't understand on SA:MP.
Argonath RPG dosent have to be "strictly" as RL would be, Thats why we have events and loads of other fun things.
MTA:VC has more stable roleplay than SAMP? Bullshit, how can you be that arrogant to talk about things you started to know for a few weeks?
If someone doesn't want to RP they don't have to? This is a RPG server, dude.
Events & "funny" things like the GiacJr invasion have nothing to do with roleplay, you tell me to think about my sentences before posting? Do the same, because you didn't understand anything.
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I am afraid this is exactly what I mean.
You give it a try, create (you and a couple of other good roleplayers like Carhartt, Iceboy, Merc, Que, etcetera) a big roleplay event. I mean not just some event like race or run to win a million, but a good roleplay scenario, with a lot of people involved and professional roleplay.
When you do this, you can invite all people. Whoever will come, you will know that he is a good roleplayer and you can create a small (or big, depends) circle of roleplayers, who could have fun between themselves, roleplaying strict, without farting, /p, moneyhunger and so on... And you let the others be powerhungry and do "/p LOLOLOL OMGOMG" - why would you care, you are having fun while roleplay a strict and funny situation... realistic aswell.
Look, I see that you just want to calm the situation down, but we say it once again:
Those events on Argonath have nothing to do with roleplay, we want constant roleplay on the server, thats all.
Believe me, I tried a lot of things. I tried to roleplay on the forum by creating letters & shit with Photoshop, (Merc, Chance, Marcel, IceBoy, Hustle, Que & Me) we created several gangs, but people called us deathmatchers, because we had a roleplay shootout, cops were stalking us 24/7, spoiling all RP situations.
There need to be new rules which support the roleplay on the server.
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As long as your not rulebreaking, you don't have to do anything. ;)
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Do we call 'roleplay' a event now?
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Look, I see that you just want to calm the situation down, but we say it once again:
Those events on Argonath have nothing to do with roleplay, we want constant roleplay on the server, thats all.
Believe me, I tried a lot of things. I tried to roleplay on the forum by creating letters & shit with Photoshop, (Merc, Chance, Marcel, IceBoy, Hustle, Que & Me) we created several gangs, but people called us deathmatchers, because we had a roleplay shootout, cops were stalking us 24/7, spoiling all RP situations.
There need to be new rules which support the roleplay on the server.
So damn right.
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I agree with Carhartt & Que's points here.
I, personally don't even expect some RP in SAMP anymore, cause it barely happens, but when it does, I RP everything to the fullest.
And actually, I have nothing against the freeroamers that drive around. I mean, let the kids have fun, but I really piss off is they start ruining RP, and bothering the people who really RP. IMO the 'RPG' part should be removed from name, and changed to 'YWSEP' - Yes, we sometimes Role Play.
:m4: :sig: :sig:
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I think a change would be made if this was here:
Rules for Bunnyhopping, Rules for Meta/Powergaming, RP Everything, start engines rp weapons, no more freecops, only qualified ones, no more Sawnoff Shotguns, Tec9s Micro SMGS, 9mms, more RP scripted jobs, less events, remove public chat, remove blips from map.
But that will probably never happen so our Roleplaying rate will stay at 3/10.
EDIT: Remove /area
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I think a change would be made if this was here:
Rules for Bunnyhopping, Rules for Meta/Powergaming, RP Everything, start engines rp weapons, no more freecops, only qualified ones, no more Sawnoff Shotguns, Tec9s Micro SMGS, 9mms, more RP scripted jobs, less events, remove public chat, remove blips from map.
But that will probably never happen so our Roleplaying rate will stay at 3/10.
EDIT: Remove /area
:lol:
How about no more server, no more world, no more admins, no more developers, no more shooting.
EDIT: No more criminals too!
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:lol:
How about no more server, no more world, no more admins, no more developers, no more shooting.
EDIT: No more criminals too!
I dont see anything wrong in what NitrOx said, the only thing you forgot.....its Argonath , dont expect too much of the players, you cant turn them 180°, it gotta be slowly :)
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Look, I see that you just want to calm the situation down, but we say it once again:
Those events on Argonath have nothing to do with roleplay, we want constant roleplay on the server, thats all.
Believe me, I tried a lot of things. I tried to roleplay on the forum by creating letters & shit with Photoshop, (Merc, Chance, Marcel, IceBoy, Hustle, Que & Me) we created several gangs, but people called us deathmatchers, because we had a roleplay shootout, cops were stalking us 24/7, spoiling all RP situations.
There need to be new rules which support the roleplay on the server.
I totally agree with Carhartt's points...
We TRIED to roleplay a protest today, but that ended up as a shootout... 2 times...
If you get a group of 5-6 people to roleplay something (friends hanging out maybe?) then cops will come and ruin everything.
Argonath is full of communists (SAPD mostly) .
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To point out what Carhartt said: Maybe everyone doensnt want to RP a gang or some type of crime, and maybe they dont want to RP like cops. There should be a middle line somewhere.
At LOL to what Nitro posted....
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To point out what Carhartt said: Maybe everyone doensnt want to RP a gang or some type of crime, and maybe they dont want to RP like cops. There should be a middle line somewhere.
At LOL to what Nitro posted....
I never said that you are forced to roleplay a gang member / officer.
However, there should be more rules to enforce the roleplay instead of decreasing it.
Freecops should be completely removed, if you think you're good enough to take care of that difficult job, receive training & go through several tests.
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To point out what Carhartt said: Maybe everyone doensnt want to RP a gang or some type of crime, and maybe they dont want to RP like cops. There should be a middle line somewhere.
Noone said it has to be that, other day Carhartt and me RP'ed medics. We've RP'ed many different roles.
Main requirement for what is good RP - Realism.
I agree with Carhartt on this.
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Do we call 'roleplay' a event now?
That's my line! :lol:
When I am not being a cop, I try to fill the normal civilian gap by creating civilian RP jobs etc.
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MTA:VC has more stable roleplay than SAMP? Bullshit, how can you be that arrogant to talk about things you started to know for a few weeks?
If someone doesn't want to RP they don't have to? This is a RPG server, dude.
Events & "funny" things like the GiacJr invasion have nothing to do with roleplay, you tell me to think about my sentences before posting? Do the same, because you didn't understand anything.
This isnt bull shit, I would agree with Tupac... I personally know MTA:VC and SA:MP RP well, and I will support Tupac's view on this.
So you're saying I dont understand anything now eh?
From your posts, I can jump to the conclusion that you are pushing for Argonath to become an RLRPG... well we can't have everything we want, I want a pretty pink birthday cake with my face on it but it's not gonna happen! This goes out to everyone too, not just NitrOx and Carhartt.
Argonath (SA:MP)
-Free styled RP
-Fun events
-Few RP Veterans
-24/7 OOC Channel
Other RLRPG's (SA:MP)
-Strict, boring RP that has to conform with the normal standards
-OOC Channel is always off or is only on during CET Nights
-Other things I dont know, so I cant list them
Carhartt... let me guess, though I may be wrong in this.
It's after you went to LS-RP that you developed your passion for strict RP and your scorn for Argonath players having fun, isnt it?
In Argonath, RP is only second in priority to fun. I'll be frank this time. If you want a place where strict RP is first priority in everything, then go to an RLRPG.
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Variety of player. u cant change it unless u own the server. what only we can do is to point the bad guy and tell them to RP hardcore -.-
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JDC how many RLRPG servers have you been on, and have you ever tried RPing realistic? I don't think it's borring at all, if you know how to do it.
Btw, if you absolutely have to chit chat, you can do it through PM or in local/cbradio OOC.
Solution to all the arguments: Make 2 Argonath servers - 1 for free RP, 1 for realistic RP. :D
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JDC how many RLRPG servers have you been on, and have you ever tried RPing realistic? I don't think it's borring at all, if you know how to do it.
Btw, if you absolutely have to chit chat, you can do it through PM or in local/cbradio OOC.
Solution to all the arguments: Make 2 Argonath servers - 1 for free RP, 1 for realistic RP. :D
We already have 4 :eek: (Just kidding )
Anyways.. Roleplay is still there, only some people doesn't see to realize, most of all beceause of the constant 'XD" and other smiley's / Language spoken in /p ...
I think some people are to much into the chat than the essential... Roleplay... Try to ignore the /p And i think you probably see already some changes..
My personal opinion, wich really annoys me the most, Is the public chat constantly getting flooded by the same people trying to 'Impress" the community, Where /p wasn't designed for.
I'm not connecting to Argonath for some flood by people; I don't have any offence that they say anything, after all, we're a community, but please, Don't start to flood with really senseless things as only typing 'XD' or 'LOL' when a administrator makes a joke..
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Main requirement for what is good RP - Realism.
I am no real SAMP player or anything, but when it comes to Argonath and role playing, I prefer "close to GTA" to "close to reality". Because "close to reality" means for me that we would be playing Sims Online in Argonath, and really I didn't join Argonath's community just so I could have parties, relationships, go to work as a taxi driver, buy myself a car and a house, have kids and other things that freaking comes with a dull mediocre citizen's life.
I joined Argonath so I could be Hero/Anti-Hero. Be the bad guy, do some missions, where I have to steal a car in 60 seconds, being shot at while flying with the parachute down to the streets, where my gang waits me with a car. Have another Mafia put a hit on me, because I was set up by my best friend who kidnapped the Mafia bosses favorite gal. Round up the guys who are loyal to me, take out my own boss, and start to run my gang the way I want to, and try to control a part of the city.
Now I have nothing against those who like Sims-online kind of role play, if they don't interfere with my role play, I don't interfere with theirs, but really I didn't come to Argonath for realism, but action.
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I prefer RP that is feasible but not necessarily realistic. Some of the RP characters I be you are unlikely to come across in the real world. The main objective for my RP, is for everyone involved to get enjoyment, fun, out of it. If I am corrupt cop, I am not corrupt for myself, I will RP so that even if I am 'abusing' someone (RP) that they will not feel too abused. Even if it means I die in the process... just so its more fun all round, Carhartt will probably know what I mean by this.
At the end of the day, as long as its fun, somewhat feasible RP, I will still be a fan of Argonath RPG.
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As I see some of you guys stated that Carhartt is too strict with IC / OOC rules and what depends the subject RolePlaying, but allthough that I think its way more fun to play serious and starting to RPing serious, things goes slower and you can play for hours instead of just cruising around and waiting for events to win.
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Solution to all the arguments: Make 2 Argonath servers - 1 for free RP, 1 for realistic RP.
Or you could just go play on another RLRPG server...
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Or you could just go play on another RLRPG server...
Or maybe he was just joking.. :neutral:
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Or you could just go play on another RLRPG server...
Flame removed. thing you've been doing for a while now.
Admin: Razor.
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Or maybe you and a bunch of players can stop this arrogrant shitty thing you've been doing for a while now.
Flame removed.
Admin: Razor.
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Or maybe you can shut up. :)
If you have nothing to say which helps this argument then Flame removed. & don't reply.
Provoking is not allowed.
Admin: Razor.
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If you have nothing to say which helps this argument then just piss off & don't reply.
Oh by the way, all of your signatures suck. ;)
This is what I mean about the people who make Argonath corrupt, but noones does anything about it.
People like you are the reason Argonath is corrupt, Becuase you don't like being told the truth, or how to improve.
Flame removed.
Admin: Razor.
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i agree. something needs to be done about this.
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This is what I mean about the people who make Argonath corrupt, but noones does anything about it.
People like you are the reason Argonath is corrupt, Becuase you don't like being told the truth, or how to improve.
Go piss off your self...
Do you even know the meaning of the word corruption?
If yes, I don't understand why you constantly use it for this argument which isn't related to politics or economics.
People like me don't like to get to see the truth & don't want to improve?
Actually those people including me are trying to improve the server, by suggesting new things & discussing. Guys like you who have nothing to say except insulting if they're stuck in their own bullshit they posted are the reason, if you can't discuss here, just leave this topic, ok?
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What does my sigs got to do with it, Oh wait you just need a pathetic reason to flame. Why do you have to start on me whenever I comment, whats it got to do with you, you always provoke arguments. I used to repsect you, but now you just gone over the top.
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If you have nothing to say which helps this argument then just piss off & don't reply.
Oh by the way, all of your signatures suck. ;)
Nice to hear that from someone who actually should give a 'good' example to the Argonath Server.
You provoking people... Good going..
You want to bring more roleplay to the server that way?
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As many are complaining over the /p chat & blips.
Remove /p chat & do a cbchannel who is for "chatting" for those who have so boring while rping.
Like a public channel för all "ZOMZMDMSDMDMSDFGGG xDxDxD LoooL" guys, so "the ones who actually want to rp" guys can do that instead of being annoyed at the mainchat spammers, complainers & flamers.
And blips is not good for anything basically, if you feel "lonely" (I don't get how you can feel like that.. but anyway) call someone, pm someone, ask someone, rp something, what's the hard part with that?
When i first came here i thought the mainpoint of this server was rp, and i truelly believed that everyone had that purpose.
But now i realise, it's just me & some more who thinks like that. Even admins thinks this is a "fun" server and a "entertainment" server..
I've tried to many things but it end up dead in a few weeks.
Like now, i got my drug company.. who are buying from me? Of course, the "hardcore rpers" like you're calling them. None of the rest does it.
I tried to sell Iphones once, only Pancher and Smokes Solonik came.
I tried one more time, NO ONE came.
I made several gangs with hustle and so, they always end up dead 'cause there's not many who are rping with us.
I tried to be a mechanic, like 5-6 came on a whole day.
Carhartt and others have tried to do Crips and Bloods. (Great idea) But what happens, people call them dmers because they arrange brawls.
HOW DO I SUPPOSE TO RP IF NO ONE'S RPING WITH ME?
Whatever i do, no one'll ever spend some time doing something different as they used to do.
No one have the ability or wants to change.
If i go to LSPD, there's like a hangout for 15 players who runs around /me farts & runs over cars and punch random players.
Some days ago, 3 or 4 ARPDs had a fight outside LSPD.. WTF?
All of the one's who are complaining over the rp here have their reasons. They just want to rp, Argonath RPG you know.
All of you, who says i wan't to play for "fun". Have you ever ever tried to rp to the fullest?
To the fullest, i don't mean just a lot of /me cmds, i mean. A whole day rping something & do exactly as that you rping does i normal cases.
Without any metagaming, powergaming, spam "OMOMGOGMGOGMGOG" on the mainchat, 52 players spamming "OMGOMGOMG GANDAAAALF, LET ME LICK YOU ASS SO I CAN BE ADMIN" & so on. (Not all of you does it, you just say hallo because he is who he is. But multiple times i've seen people doing it.)
Have you ever tried to play on a server who actually have roleplay as their first priority?
If you have that, you wouldn't be sitting here saying "i'm just playing for fun" 'cause you can have so f**king fun rping something strict and great.
All of you who are ARPD / FBI or whatever (LIKE THE HALF OF THIS SERVER IF NOT MORE), Try something else sometimes.
When you see it's like 50 Cadets / ARPDS online of 70, do something else. It'll make it easier for the rest to rp and it'll not be so damn annoying being stopped one more time on the way to SF when i got stopped like 10 times already in Los Santos.
Over and out..
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Make 2 commands
/removeblips - Disable all the blips on the map
/mainchatoff - Disable the main chat
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Or you could just go play on another RLRPG server...
Or we could try expanding, and reaching out for those who actually like RLRPG. That way we would also get more regulars and more activity.
I got many friends around here and like the Argonath community, thats why I'm still here. At first I was joking, but I'd be happy to give a try on making a RLRPG server for Argonath, I just need some scripters, and some backup from others that have the same passion as me.
Jubin I'm perfectly fine with your point of view, I'm not saying that it shouldn't be allowed to be unrealistic sometimes, and being a hero.
About the OOC chats, that's not my main problem, I don't give much of a shit about that, I'm just missing some better RP where people don't have to be a hero every single time you aim a gun at them, or ruin the RP.
I'm starting to think, that if it has to be "free RPG", I prefer 0.2.1, at least people weren't as money hungry and negative then.
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I like very much some sights of serious RP that has been stated by our veterans, but as I see some people are just shitting on thier comments as some people here are really trying to put alot effort in trying to RP serious in Argonath. I see they are getting such shitty comments "If you dont like it, then leave", is that fair ?.
I wish that we can discuss this subject under some fair circumstanses without any flame as I see now, I enjoy the good times when ECPC was around, that was serious RP but the thing is when someone is trying to RP seriously there will allways be some people that are trying to ruin it, and in this case its the free cops.
I do really feel sorry for the veterans here in Argonath that is trying to put alot of effort into RolePlay but as I see it, it allways ends bad. How would you feel if your RP got ruined by some noob cadet ( sorry for the harsh expression ).
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Argonath is not a RL RP server. RP is not forced upon those who want to just drive around and hang out with their mates. As long as people don't DM, they can do whatever they hell they want.
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That's why I suggested to separate the 2 "genres" on different servers.
I won't accept such comments as "Don't like? Leave". If the idea is getting denied it should be from either Sauron, Gandalf, Aragorn or Legolas, and it should be in a decent tone.
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That's why I suggested to separate the 2 "genres" on different servers.
I won't accept such comments as "Don't like? Leave". If the idea is getting denied it should be from either Sauron, Gandalf, Aragorn or Legolas, and it should be in a decent tone.
i agree with "Don't like it? Leave". As if people don't like Argonath not being a RL RP server - they should leave and go play on a RL RP server...simple as that , and it causes no arguments or problems within the community.
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i agree with "Don't like it? Leave". As if people don't like Argonath not being a RL RP server - they should leave and go play on a RL RP server...simple as that , and it causes no arguments or problems within the community.
I agree, if you walked into a shop, and the person serving gives you crap, are you going to stay and buy things from that place, or go to another shop.
And now that I have commented, someone's going to provoke, because someone from MTA:VC has said something.
Carhartt, i'm waiting for your comment.
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I agree, if you walked into a shop, and the person serving gives you crap, are you going to stay and buy things from that place, or go to another shop.
And now that I have commented, someone's going to provoke, because someone from MTA:VC has said something.
Carhartt, im waiting for your comment.
Ye, same here, cos i'm now one of the most hated people on the forums because of my very down to the point take no shit nature.
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Yea but you wouldn't have a bunch of friends that you have known for several years, in that shop. Can't be compared, specially after all the roles I've had on Argonath.
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If the person RPing the shop teller gives you crap, couldnt he be RPing it? RP just doenst mean nice little people talking to you in a very friendley way.
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Wtf??
Sorry but your post makes no sense to me at all Matthew, maybe it's me lacking English skills? :neutral:
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i agree with "Don't like it? Leave". As if people don't like Argonath not being a RL RP server - they should leave and go play on a RL RP server...simple as that , and it causes no arguments or problems within the community.
This is something i don't get. This is GTA, there's no Real Life.
What's the difference between a so called: "Real Life Role play server" and Argo?
Is it the Zombie events who makes the difference or what? Or guys who basicly can't use /me for it's reason? Who use it for /me farts x0rhax00r or /me is a crocodile.
Argonath should be roleplay, ROLEPLAY, Not event-quiz-fart-zuperz0r-jumparoundandgetsuspected-copsandrobbers-server.
Events are fine, once and a while but not 10 each day, quiz are OKEY once and a while but not 10 each day.
Cops are fine, but not when 56 of 87 are cops.
I act "Real Life" on argo, and have always done. Alot of the players are acting real life. But you don't get our point i think.
When i first came here i thought the mainpoint of this server was rp, and i truelly believed that everyone had that purpose.
But now i realise, it's just me & some more who thinks like that. Even admins thinks this is a "fun" server and a "entertainment" server..
I've tried to many things but it end up dead in a few weeks.
Like now, i got my drug company.. who are buying from me? Of course, the "hardcore rpers" like you're calling them. None of the rest does it.
I tried to sell Iphones once, only Pancher and Smokes Solonik came.
I tried one more time, NO ONE came.
I made several gangs with hustle and so, they always end up dead 'cause there's not many who are rping with us.
I tried to be a mechanic, like 5-6 came on a whole day.
Carhartt and others have tried to do Crips and Bloods. (Great idea) But what happens, people call them dmers because they arrange brawls.
HOW DO I SUPPOSE TO RP IF NO ONE'S RPING WITH ME?
Whatever i do, no one'll ever spend some time doing something different as they used to do.
No one have the ability or wants to change.
If i go to LSPD, there's like a hangout for 15 players who runs around /me farts & runs over cars and punch random players.
Some days ago, 3 or 4 ARPDs had a fight outside LSPD.. WTF?
All of the one's who are complaining over the rp here have their reasons. They just want to rp, Argonath RPG you know.
All of you, who says i wan't to play for "fun". Have you ever ever tried to rp to the fullest?
To the fullest, i don't mean just a lot of /me cmds, i mean. A whole day rping something & do exactly as that you rping does i normal cases.
Without any metagaming, powergaming, spam "OMOMGOGMGOGMGOG" on the mainchat, 52 players spamming "OMGOMGOMG GANDAAAALF, LET ME LICK YOU ASS SO I CAN BE ADMIN" & so on. (Not all of you does it, you just say hallo because he is who he is. But multiple times i've seen people doing it.)
Have you ever tried to play on a server who actually have roleplay as their first priority?
If you have that, you wouldn't be sitting here saying "i'm just playing for fun" 'cause you can have so f**king fun rping something strict and great.
All of you who are ARPD / FBI or whatever (LIKE THE HALF OF THIS SERVER IF NOT MORE), Try something else sometimes.
When you see it's like 50 Cadets / ARPDS online of 70, do something else. It'll make it easier for the rest to rp and it'll not be so damn annoying being stopped one more time on the way to SF when i got stopped like 10 times already in Los Santos.
Over and out..
It's not about Real Life Roleplay.. Read the things i wrote above again.
RP is not forced upon those who want to just drive around and hang out with their mates. As long as people don't DM, they can do whatever they hell they want.
Of course you can roleplay how ever you want, but the thing is Blacksky, you SHOULD roleplay.
Why did you come here from the begining? TO ROLEPLAY! The server got a name & it got it for a reason.
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Ah my bad iceboy.....I didnt read what blacksky said. My apologies. :( I thought he was literally talking about a shop in-game.....
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Oh okay, then it makes more sense, lol. Got me pretty confused there.
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I support the '2 servers' idea IceBoy :D
Make 2 commands
/removeblips - Disable all the blips on the map
/mainchatoff - Disable the main chat
This one would be awesome aswell... and it's not hard to script it.
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But I just think that for us that wants to bring serious RP into Argonath that we fails, as I have seen and read by the posts here I see we aint moving any further from where we started, Agonath is a Fun RPG server and will ALLWAYS be one.
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Yea, only problem is that I don't find much fun anymore :neutral:
Most times I'm ingame, I just see the usual arguments, chaos at LSPD with people jumping onto cars and talking random, random racers who ram half the cars on the road and the usual cops after criminals.
It seems most people just care about earning money these days, not fun in my opinion, others may have another opinion.
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problem is how do you make it so its not all about money??
And ye there is a MAJOR fault as most players seem to playing for the money, all I have to do is threaten a reset of stats and they all moan cos they going to loose property money etc that they spend time earning...
Many will say I dont care cos I am admin who can have unlimited funds if I want.. I care far more than what you think cos I find it discouraging to find most of the server ist just interested in how much money they have, and if they are going to loose it.
One thought was to add more money to make players see its no big deal, in essence devalue it, its had the opposite affect, there are money grabbing players who like nothing better than to try and get money anyway they can.
Players see the word 'event' and think... am going to get chance to get more money.
We need those that claim they can rp to be more noticed in the server, try and encourage the rest.
Talking about it is not goign to help, try and do something, and do not give up.. If people gave up so easily IRL we would still be in the stone age!
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Well all I can say is that in 0.2.1, people never needed money, and therefore it also did not mean as much, which gave a lot more fun and also a bigger part of RP.
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Well all I can say is that in 0.2.1, people never needed money, and therefore it also did not mean as much, which gave a lot more fun and also a bigger part of RP.
Yeah...good times...if we needed cash, we went on as a cop, kiled a few suspects and got 2500$ for killing him hahaha.
Ontopic: @CBF : Tell me a way, of getting noticed, when we do serious RP ?
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Yea as well as the fact of casino opened sometimes, ahha. I loved gambling :D
By the way, me and others really tried to encourage people. We succeeded changing a few people, but no biggie.
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Yea as well as the fact of casino opened sometimes, ahha. I loved gambling :D
By the way, me and others really tried to encourage people. We succeeded changing a few people, but no biggie.
Yeah, I also think that we've changed some people. :D
I will post some ideas how to improve the server later on ...
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Wel like i see it People just need to start thinking more and stop moning about Rp i see so many people awnsering to the topics and the same people ingame stil do noty Rp
For example Why do Cops Always speed and then i mean always why do the never get a ticket constand speedign is in my Eye's non Rp
Same for Other people on the road raming other cars speedign ramming people and then say oh sorry i went to fast o you see Irl evreyine Driving
liek the are on a Race Track ?? No
And Why does 70% of all playrs Bunny hop to a Car instea of calling a taxi ??? you think taxi are Exspencive the are becosu no one uses them if the get used more and there fee is 5 then the wil earn the same as when the have there fee 50 and the work more less boring and people have to give less for a taxi
Same as Hooker i like to see more hookers and if theer is a Hooker a fee of 500 ?? damm no hooker Irl is that mutch
amd btw people STOP MOANING THAT THE RP IS BAD if you nwat the Rp better start Rping then i see many people Moaning but i see non Rping
so Start to Rp no matter what thats the only way to get Rp back you cnat get Rp back with moaning
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Could everybody stop with this pathetic MTA:VC crap? IceBoy told me that none is able to roleplay properly on that server, so don't try to tell us how wonderful it is. We don't care, this is SAMP.
Excuse me? MTA: VC crap? I dont see how you dare call MTA: VC crap to be quite honest.
At least it hasn't got such a f**king stupid corrupt system with players who rule break and call it RP and in addition the f**king "admins" who constantly argue and rule break themselves within the server.
Shit like this happens all the time on SAMP, it's sometimes pretty funny to see how stupid people can get. As long as MTA:VC and VC:MP doesn't follow the same path, I'm a happy guy. But I find it quite offensive when you illogical, hypocritical people call MTA: VC "crap".
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Excuse me? MTA: VC crap? I dont see how you dare call MTA: VC crap to be quite honest.
At least it hasn't got such a f**king stupid corrupt system with players who rule break and call it RP and in addition the f**king "admins" who constantly argue and rule break themselves within the server.
Shit like this happens all the time on SAMP, it's sometimes pretty funny to see how stupid people can get. As long as MTA:VC and VC:MP doesn't follow the same path, I'm a happy guy. But I find it quite offensive when you illogical, hypocritical people call MTA: VC "crap".
I Like MTA:VC
But this is the SA:MP part of the forum, yi know?
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I Like MTA:VC
But this is the SA:MP part of the forum, yi know?
No.
But okay, I'll just go flame SAMP in the MTA VC sections as you guys did to us.
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Topic locked, you can probably figure out why.
If some developer or main admin decides it should be unlocked, be my guest. Until then - I will lock it to prevent a lot of arguing and flaming.