Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Icarus on January 18, 2009, 11:28:56 pm
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In NO rp servers, should a member of a respected clan, come up with such a statement
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POLICE cant make someone go to jail or pay a TICKET now, because itf forced RP now.
Thanks to certain people, saying "no one can rpz lolz"
All the people who cant, who we let play in the bliss that they thought they could, now believe only they can rp, and i got called a bad RPer, for pulling someone over for hitting me with his hovercraft, with a TCL member on his roof, and then he said "lol" in /l when i said he was driving "Eratically" - apparently he cant tell the difference between erotic and crazy.
The people on this server, need to act like they used to, I told someone to get out of there car, with me as a cop, and he point blank refused, because he wasnt "dangerous" - Who gives a crap, if a cop tells you to get out of your car IRL, GET OUT! Jesus.
((Ignore me checking which admins were on, i was gonna ask someone to teach him the rules, but i decided, maybe if i embaress him, hel see the light.))
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If a gangster tries to rob someone, and player1 doesn't want to. It's the same thing if a cop comes up and tries to give player1 a ticket but player1 don't want to rp with him.
So guys, the "forced rp" thing just destroyed argonath. Seriously.
Same shit, different kind of things.
All cops who are complaining over gangsters or mafias (kidnap), you're forcing the rp as much as them.
Voilá.
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If a gangster tries to rob someone, and player1 doesn't want to. It's the same thing if a cop comes up and tries to give player1 a ticket but player1 don't want to rp with him.
So guys, the "forced rp" thing just destroyed argonath. Seriously.
Same shit, different kind of things.
All cops who are complaining over gangsters or mafias (kidnap), you're forcing the rp as much as them.
Voilá.
I agree with you, that it has ruined it, and I remember back in the day, if you refused to be kidnapped, theyd just shoot you, and no one bothered, being the kidnapped person was usually hysterical, I remember people pmed me back in the day asking me to be kidnapped by them :P
But srsly
The rules should be changed
"A player can not say 'i dont wanna rp' in stuck situations - eg, pulled over, suspected, kidnapped, etc"
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Yeah, agreed.
Wierd rule i must say.
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Huh, there's a rule about force rp? Never heard about that rule
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If he doesn't pay the ticket, you can suspect him, he will then be forced to either surrender or go to jail. Correct me if I am wrong.
I am assuming you do know SAPD guidelines regarding this though.
he said "lol" in /l when i said he was driving "Eratically" - apparently he cant tell the difference between erotic and crazy.
Perhaps if you would've used an easy synonym for the word erratic, he would've understood you without any problems. Not all of the players speak English as their native language.
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Then Gimli, it should be allowed for gangster to kill someone if he doesn't want to be robbed.
Or a Mafia to kill/beat up someone if he don't want to be kidnapped.
Am i right? Or do Police etc got other rules? Because that's as much forced rp as what i've described above.
I don't know why everyone's whining about it, if a gangster tries to rob you, rp with him. Same as you'll do if a cop comes and give you a ticket. If everybody did that instead of complaining over it, it'll be alot better and everyone would be happy.
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Que and Brad are completely right 100%
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Some admins started to say that 'forced roleplay' isn't supported by Argonath.
You don't want to get robbed / kidnapped -> Answer of Player X: I don't want to roleplay with you
You don't want to get fined, questioned / stalked by the cops -> Answer of Player Y: I don't want to roleplay with you.
Great, so nobody can roleplay anymore because nobody wants to, sometime you are forced to do something, it is the same in real life so I don't get why Argonath doesn't support forced RP, but why the cops can do whatever they want. I mean it is just alright that they are allowed to correct your actions whenever they want, but then please also roleplay during a robbery / kidnapping & don't play the hero who takes out a pair of sawn-offs and goes crazy.
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its bad RP if you just say i dont wanna be kidnapped,
if you got guns pointed at you, do you got a choice?
if you get pulled over and you dont wanna RP, whats the point of it then
so:
if you refuse to pay ticket= /su refusing to pay ticket (its already legal to do so)
if you get kidnapped then you are kidnapped, even if you dont want,
and if you suck in RPing and still just walk away, you can shoot him to death
same for robbing
it just ruins the RP if you say: i dont want, and can just walk away,
and is there even a rule about that???
forced RP must be allowed, at least in this sort of cases
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Yeah, seriously, i have no clue why people are saying something else.
Please explain, why should you NOT rp in a robbery situation or a kidnap? But you shoud rp when a cop tries to give you a ticket etc.
I don't get it. :neutral:
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The thing I think, that admins have been giving too much power and more advantages over the regular players, I have seen many times that an admin "creates" a new rule ingame but as we all must do, listen to the rule or get kicked or eaven worse get banned. We need a change in our communtiy, else i'm afraid we soon enough gotta turn out hatin' each others.
I got this quote by 2pac "Life goes on", then get on with your life and start making something good.
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The thing I think, that admins have been giving too much power and more advantages over the regular players, I have seen many times that an admin "creates" a new rule ingame but as we all must do, listen to the rule or get kicked or eaven worse get banned. We need a change in our communtiy, else i'm afraid we soon enough gotta turn out hatin' each others.
I got this quote by 2pac "Life goes on", then get on with your life and start making something good.
Agreed, a big change about in everything is required.
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Agreed, a big change about in everything is required.
Amen
If a Cop pulls you over for traffic violations and you say "I dont want to RP with you, go away", it means you cant basically RP properly at all, in short: NonRPer.
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If a Cop pulls you over for traffic violations and you say "I dont want to RP with you, go away", it means you cant basically RP properly at all, in short: NonRPer.
If a gangster tries to rob you and you say "i dont want to RP with you, go away", it means you can't basically rp properly at all, in short: NonRPer.
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If a gangster tries to rob you and you say "i dont want to RP with you, go away", it means you can't basically rp properly at all, in short: NonRPer.
I would agree with this... like I said, there is a time and place to say 'no' to RP, and the two above examples are not one of them, except for certain exceptions,
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So I gotta say this: If you do NOT want to RP here, forced or not; Go to Mini-Missions, Freeroam Server, Stunt Servers!
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You should go along with the roleplay, thats when the /me attempts to *** comes in and both sides of the roleplay will have there chances, people are too childish to go along with the roleplay, thats all. Some people are mature and others act like little kids who don't want to Roleplay.
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its bad RP if you just say i dont wanna be kidnapped,
if you got guns pointed at you, do you got a choice?
if you get pulled over and you dont wanna RP, whats the point of it then
so:
if you refuse to pay ticket= /su refusing to pay ticket (its already legal to do so)
if you get kidnapped then you are kidnapped, even if you dont want,
and if you suck in RPing and still just walk away, you can shoot him to death
same for robbing
it just ruins the RP if you say: i dont want, and can just walk away,
and is there even a rule about that???
forced RP must be allowed, at least in this sort of cases
I dont mind suspecting people if they refuse, but they whine that your an abuser, some random punched me, i sussed himm for asttacking me, he /qed and came back saying i couldnt rp and was an abuser... apparently cop rp means stand there and die?
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OK i dont know if anyone pointed this out yet, because I didnt read all the posts.
But when a mafia/gang member is robbing someone, you are on the opppsing side, interrupting their RP or life, for your own benefit. They are innocent from anything and you have no legal right what so ever in doing it (legal stand point)
When a cop pulls someone over for wreckless driving, they are taking a dangerous man off the streets and giving him a punishment not to do it again, for the good of the citizens to keep them safe. the dangerous driver may be interrupting other peoples Rp by hitting them, their car, etc...... and the police have the duty to enfordce the laws and to make sure they do not do it anymore. This time the criminal is on the defending side, and has no right to say" I dont want to RP" because he shouldnt of beeing disobeying laws in the first place. Wether or no he wants to Rp, he still has to follow driving regulations......
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The only time I will say I don't want to rp with someone is if they are an abusing cop who is pulling me over and trying to fine me for no reason, but usually I can report to an admin and say that he is lying and I will get unsus if suspected. If I'm robbing someone and they say they don't wanna rp, I'll just shoot them for not listening, but sometimes they shout DM DM DM! and I get in trouble, come on now, you should of rped and tried running away and you would of lived.
I do not like interacting with people who DM and do not rp very well at all though and will not make any attempts to RP with them and kill them instead.
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I dont mind suspecting people if they refuse, but they whine that your an abuser, some random punched me, i sussed himm for asttacking me, he /qed and came back saying i couldnt rp and was an abuser... apparently cop rp means stand there and die?
/q abuse is a ban, so use /report,
and you arent abusing, so let them cry,
although this never happend to me before,
they might come with: i didnt hear you ask,
well then just pull him over since he knows now
cop RP means: enforcing the law
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Any time I try being cop and trying to rp, people will always cry abuse and then a bunch of people who also claimed they got abused by me (liars) will gang up on me and make it seem like I really did abuse and the majority wins so. I understand both criminals/police frusturations with nonrpers but both sides have some guilty people.
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Any time I try being cop and trying to rp, people will always cry abuse and then a bunch of people who also claimed they got abused by me (liars) will gang up on me and make it seem like I really did abuse and the majority wins so. I understand both criminals/police frusturations with nonrpers but both sides have some guilty people.
Ye freecops get alot of crap like that.....just ignore them. :) When I was a freecop/cadet people said that I abused alot. But yet there never made a single complaint against me....
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If similar free cops and cadets are having that problem with players accusing, then just relax and chill, dont bother replying and keep doing your job. If you know you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to be sorry for. :)
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its just the opinion of the civillians that all freecops/cadet are abuser, so if you suspect them they start crying abused,
just ignore them, its only a part of the cops who really does abuse, and because of those few the complete public thinks all cops are bad,
once you are an officer you wont get complaints, maybe as officer on rare base, but me as ARPD Sergeant never receive any complaint,
at least not about myself, only lots of ppl shouting for me to help them
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1.This brings up the same idea to me as before...............New license should be created,called:Cop License.
Without cop license you cant do /duty. Only ARPD can give you the Cop License.
That'll be sure to make the freecops know the ARPD rules.
2.Not everyone is a bad RPer.Even you sometimes nonrp,yeah,even if sometimes. When I get sussed wrongly,I just ignore it till a cop comes if admins dont unsus. If he's a not-listening cop,I either ignore him or either drive towards an ARPD officer and he gets the admins to unsus me. Once I was with ALS members in LV,and I was sussed in LS. No cops had come to me,and admins wouldnt listen. I was abused since I didnt hear the cop in /m,the cop's ping was 1000. Ghost was the first one to come to me,I just RPed him that I didnt hear the cop pulling me over,he unsussed.
Easy.
3.I was just in driver seat in limo to save fuel. I think it was Paul Mccarthy or Paul something that came. He used /me alot and hotwired my car and drove away.I RPed,instead of saying 'I dont wanna RP,get outta the car OMG',thats what I usually say if they nonrp get in it,and I get so pissed off if admins dont answer. I /me'ed and held his neck and the car crashed. I got out,pulled him out and tied him up.
Now here's what happened where people might say I wasnt RPing. I was turned around and he had managed to get his cellphone and call help. His friend came with TEC9s and had them pointed at my head over a distance. It was only one armed person and another unarmed,so I /me jumps at him'ed.That'd be considered nonRP for some.I jumped and the cops arrived by that time,and I was saved.
No,its RP to try to escape when there's only 2 people and only one is armed.But you got like 10 people pointing the gun at your head,and you try to escape...go do that in real pl0x,I beg you to do it. Do take your computer with me,and when your dead,send me an email.
Yeah I agree,shit's going on in server. Before people gave me 1k when I asked 50 dollars,I RPed mechanic.Now if you try that they'll not even come,and giving 50 dollars is far.
Being robbed has great RP encounters. The first time I was RPing in a game, I learnt the basics of RP robbing cause I was robbed myself.
Currently,I will try to use /me and to escape even if 1 person has a gun on me,but if Im overpowered I simply give the money.
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if a cop pulls you over it is for a good reason 98% of the time for it could be speeding reckless driving etc that is not forced rp because you rped breaking the law by speeding so the cop has every right to pul you over and either give you a warning or a ticket
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Well I guess there are "levels" of your character.
When you are a SAPD chief I think you would be able to escape when 2 people aim to you by kicking their guns out of their hands and run.
But when you are a new cop, you won't be able to do such thing because you don't have much experience to do such thing.
Some example:
Rank 1: Can try to escape when melee weapons are used. (2) Or someone is aiming from afar. (1) [M4, Hunting rifle, ak-47, sniper rifle not included.]
New cop, poor guy with no self defence lessons etc.
Rank 2: Can try to escape when melee weapons are used, (2) Or someone is aiming middle. (1) [M4, Hunting rifle, ak-47, sniper rifle not included.]
Experienced cop ( 7 days ) or some poor guy who followed self defense lessons. Gang members fall under this too.
Rank 3: Can try to escape when melee weapons are used, (2) Or someone is aiming close. (1)[M4, Hunting rifle, ak-47, sniper rifle, combat shotgun, sawn off shotgun not included.]
veteran cop ( higher ranked than normal cop ) or a leader of a gang, member of a mafia. ( ex mafia too ) Or a restaurant manager.
Rank 4: Can escape melee weapons (2) Or someone is aiming close by kicking their gun out of their hands. (1)
Veteran cop ( for some weeks ) or leader of a BIG gang, high ranked member of big mafia. Experienced bodyguards ( much self defence lessons ) fall under it too.
Rank 5: Can escape melee weapons (2) Or someone is aiming close by kicking their gun out of their hands. (2)
Cop chief or Mafia leader ( co-leader too ) or bodyguards of the president.
You can use this for example to determine your "rank" to escape or something. I don't think you will be able to kick out guns from guys when you are a beggar with 5$. Unless you were once a karate kid or something but then again your morale would be low and you wouldnt be able to.
Of course, it also depends on the rank of the one kidnapping / robbing / doing something else to you. :)