Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: BlackBird on February 01, 2009, 03:31:24 am
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I Am leaving argo forever, SA Player don't PM me asking "i can haz cash" i already gave it out to my friends and the good roleplayers.
There are several reasons for my leaving, i have been in argo since practically the beginning, I've watched the server start with just a few players and get bigger and bigger, and im a hardcore roleplayer, i couldn't honestly say anything about the old argonath that im about to say about the new one.
When i first Joined argo, Clans like [AV] where still new....These where the good days, a Small community with the occasional new player, everyone knew everyone and everyone was a regular. Aragorn would actually even play, instead of just coming in-game to do a small party or fix a command.
People where friendlier, We didnt have problems with metagaming and powergaming, it was just a small group of people with really nothing except the /me command.
As the years went on argo got bigger, i joined the SA community and played that more often, again...a small community where everyone knew everyone.
i played in the orginal SA Scripts where people actually had to make a effort to roleplay, again, hardly any cases of power or metagaming.
Once argonath started getting bigger i thought this was good for the community, new players was always a good thing, and for awhile i was right.
Then main admins started getting carried away, they started becoming more concerned about popularity then there veteran players.
Now your probally asking what does this matter? why do we care? why is he leaving again?
Because, Once this happened more people became more stuck up and forgot the real reason argonath was made...to roleplay...
Today all people on all the servers care about is money, with the occasional good roleplayer. More admins where recruited, to maintain order, which failed, jsut made things worse.
Admins lost sight of playing the game and became anal whiners thinking just cause they have admin rights they can do anything they want, again, not all admins.
Players began power and metagaming.
i remember when aragorn actually enforced roleplay and didnt use the saying "even though this si a RP server RP is not enforced" And metagaming and pwoergaming where part of the "Unwritten Rules".
Now it's pretty much jsut admin abusers power gamers, metagamers and few good roleplayers.
This has been building up and pushing old players out of the server, Finally its my time to leave.
as much as i have supported this server, and played on it i never thought the day i left permantly would come.
So i do wish most of you goodluck, and those who i dont wish goodluck...well you know who you are, and one of you i made it blatantly clear to, cause your shit was the last straw for me.
i want to thank aragorn and Gandalf for making it a decent 3 years of argonath, and i do wish them many more.
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Goodbye.
And, seriously, stop fucking blaming the WHOLE Argonath community because of what happens in only one of them.
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Whats going on man?
Do not leave of argonath because of a few players..
We are only the capable to change "actual situation"
With my eyes, if someone is metagaming/powergaming just forget him..
there's no need to lower to his level.
Anyway, wanna leave? go on.
But, why a soldier is giving up in the battle field?
Even it took alot of time to become a soldier?
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Goodbye.
And, seriously, stop f**king blaming the WHOLE Argonath community because of what happens in only one of them.
If you read properly you would perhaps see its not just one im referring to, MTA and VCMP went to shit to
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If you read properly you would perhaps see its not just one im referring to, MTA and VCMP went to shit to
If you used to be a regular in these communities (of nowadays), then I'd listen to your judgement (I refer about VC:MP and MTA:VC).
Seriously, stop spreading shit about VC and MTA:SA just because the SA:MP problems.
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If you read properly you would perhaps see its not just one im referring to, MTA and VCMP went to shit to
Dude, every server that you search you will find problems
You need to live with the problem and make it small,
Come on, don't leave, you need some players, and some players need you. :pop:
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If you used to be a regular in these communities (of nowadays), then I'd listen to your judgement (I refer about VC:MP and MTA:VC).
Seriously, stop spreading shit about VC and MTA:SA just because the SA:MP problems.
:rofl: I was a regular, ask any of the veteran players who still play MTA and VC
so dont start that shit with me, Next time try to read the entire topic before starting shit kid.
this wasnt a flame topic this was a im leaving topic
Dude, every server that you search you will find problems
You need to live with the problem and make it small,
Come on, don't leave, you need some players, and some players need you. :pop:
Talk to me on MSN ill explain the other parts there, you shoudl udnerstand then :(
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:rofl: I was a regular, ask any of the veteran players who still play MTA and VC
so dont start that shit with me, Next time try to read the entire topic before starting shit kid.
this wasnt a flame topic this was a im leaving topic
If you used to be a regular in these communities (of nowadays),
Goodbye.
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tbh with what you wrote, you obviously haven't visited VCMP for ages, Ive been at VCMP since the start, I don't remember seeing you there since late 07, and you were hardly a regular? When VCMP just began it was going well, then it had a sudden drop of players, oh so its gone to shit has it? Not really, its going greater than ever, so make sure what you say is true
Anyway cya
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If you wanna leave argonath, go on..
bye. :cry:
Have a nice stay in your new server.
or.. real life or new game, just bye.
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Good bye Dark, sad to see you leaving seriously :bye:
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If you wanna leave argonath, go on..
bye. :cry:
Have a nice stay in your new server.
or.. real life or new game, just bye.
talk to me on MSN seriosuly :(
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Bai, I luv you <333
Good luck with your fiancee and life. :bye:
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wow why you have to flame all admins then get banned for it i heard this before you gave away money
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If you read properly you would perhaps see its not just one im referring to, MTA and VCMP went to shit to
Now explain yourself. MTA:VC too? Dude, the time you were back in Argonath you weren't even in MTA:VC. Maybe for a one day. You say we gone bad? facts-facts-facts! Power or Metagaming- there is no such word in MTA:VC. Bigger community? Hmm, let me see, we went from full server all the time (2006) to the regular 7-10 (2009). Yeah I would say we have grown a lot bigger and no one knows each other anymore.[sarcasm] VC:MP has grown, true but not that big to have such problems. Actually VC:MP has that feeling to me, what I had when I joined Argonath's community in MTA:VC. MTA:SA - Dude, most of the times there is only 1-3 players in-game, who all are mostly experienced players from other Argonath servers, so no meta or power gaming there too. So really Dark, get your facts straight.
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Off-topic section is not a:
- Good bye foreva, Argonath now is shitty, so join mine server!
- Good bye foreva, I liked Argonath, now it sucks cos I was not chosen as admin!
- Good bye foreva, cos Argonath is full of rulebreakers and flamers, I will not name their names thou!
- Good bye foreva, admins are abusers, thou I have no any proves on it and do not care to report to administration!
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wow why you have to flame all admins then get banned for it i heard this before you gave away money
it was one admin in particular
Now explain yourself. MTA:VC too? Dude, the time you were back in Argonath you weren't even in MTA:VC. Maybe for a one day. You say we gone bad? facts-facts-facts! Power or Metagaming- there is no such word in MTA:VC. Bigger community? Hmm, let me see, we went from full server all the time (2006) to the regular 7-10 (2009). Yeah I would say we have grown a lot bigger and no one knows each other anymore.[sarcasm] VC:MP has grown, true but not that big to have such problems. Actually VC:MP has that feeling to me, what I had when I joined Argonath's community in MTA:VC. MTA:SA - Dude, most of the times there is only 1-3 players in-game, who all are mostly experienced players from other Argonath servers, so no meta or power gaming there too. So really Dark, get your facts straight.
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Jubin im more active on MTA then you think i may not b INGAME all the time, but im sure there chatting atleast once a week
and again, it wasnt directed at all people
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Jubin im more active on MTA then you think i may not b INGAME all the time, but im sure there chatting atleast once a week
and again, it wasnt directed at all people
Phoenix, darling, if you are gonna make a generalization, do it about most of the community, not about the minority. And In my opinion, you are wrong if you still say those things about MTA:VC.
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Good luck in wherever you go Phoenix.
I play SA and VC and for me, VCMP and MTAVC have hardly any power/metagaming. MTAVC has the regular players now as ASE is not there anymore. So everyone knows everyone. I dunno when you came on cuz I dont see you at all. I have been a lil inactive only from recent times, so I dunno how I missed you.
Good luck anyhow
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I must be honest I did laugh when I just saw the topic name :rofl:. But its your choice, but do not blame everything.
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See ya Dark, we had fun times at Race Days and from the oldie days I remember, if you decide to come back for whatever reason you can join Southside Choppers.
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I really liked the last weeks you spent in this community, because you tried to reach the same goal as me & friends.
Hope you'll find a server where you can roleplay properly, good luck!
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Dark, when things get bad, try to light up the darkness.
I hope you'll change your mind, and stay, but I cant make decisions for you.
So, goodbye ;)
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(http://forums.abrsm.org/style_emoticons/default/violin.gif) Goodbye.
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Good bye! :bye:
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Cya Dark, we'll keep in touch though :D
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Dont give up, dont let bad RPers feel victory...
Come on!
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i Doubt i will return for a very very long time if ever.
I must be honest I did laugh when I just saw the topic name :rofl:. But its your choice, but do not blame everything.
and i laughed when i saw your post, And i can, And i Am, And i will
Thanks everyone who said bye i will miss you :(
Add my MSN :) so we can keep in touch though
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Bye Dark
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You tried to bring serious roleplay in here...but failed...like everyone of us. I understand you dude, peace :weed:
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Yup your attempts of bring Roleplay here was like chalk on concrete. Drawn only to be washed away. But you are leaving because why exactly? One admin, or is it because another reason....because leaving over one admin is bullsh*t. Sorry but it is. Every here atleast has one of those admins that is like "stay the hell away from him" But we dont leave over it...
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Yup your attempts of bring Roleplay here was like chalk on concrete. Drawn only to be washed away. But you are leaving because why exactly? One admin, or is it because another reason....because leaving over one admin is bullsh*t. Sorry but it is. Every here atleast has one of those admins that is like "stay the hell away from him" But we dont leave over it...
that one admin was the last straw in a long line of drama and bullshit
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I feel you, the world is cruel.
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As far as regrets, Yeah i feel regretful im leaving a great community and my friends, they way im leaving it? im not regretful
i dont regret what i said to the admins such as TAI and Jaaskaa, i meant every word i said and i stand by it, im tired of being afraid of even implying that a admin should handle a situation better, or that a player should try a different type of roleplay and then i shit on, by players and admin, cause im not allowed to express my oppinion.
so do i regret leaving? yes, the way im leaving? no
Argonath used to be about being able to express yourself and your oppinions freely now it's a very hush hush keep them to yourself, and god forbid anyone says anything against argo or its admins, and even on msn "where It doesnt matter", you immediatly get punished cause your not allowed to express your voice anymore
i know theres plenty of you out there that agree with me, you have told me on MSN and you have made it clear
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If I may ask, when exactly are you leaving?
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If I may ask, when exactly are you leaving?
Because argonath was supposed to be fun, it was suppose to be RP and now it's a freeroam server with a little RP
im tired of trying to roleplay with admins and some players that just dont want to, if you dont want to RP dont play on a RP server
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Because argonath was supposed to be fun, it was suppose to be RP and now it's a freeroam server with a little RP
im tired of trying to roleplay with admins and some players that just dont want to, if you dont want to RP dont play on a RP server
NO SHIT!
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NO SHIT!
Chance was that sarcasm?
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Because argonath was supposed to be fun, it was suppose to be RP and now it's a freeroam server with a little RP
im tired of trying to roleplay with admins and some players that just dont want to, if you dont want to RP dont play on a RP server
If I may ask, when exactly are you leaving?
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Chance was that sarcasm?
Nah, I meant that seriously.
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Dark, is this the 5th time?
Make up ur mind. Are u gonna leave or not ? Think over a day or something, dont just post a lame leaving topic everytime u get angry.
If this is ur last and final time, then i say good bye and good luck in ur life!
Bye, or cya soon..
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Dark, is this the 5th time?
Make up ur mind. Are u gonna leave or not ? Think over a day or something, dont just post a lame leaving topic everytime u get angry.
If this is ur last and final time, then i say good bye and good luck in ur life!
Bye, or cya soon..
yes this is my last time
If I may ask, when exactly are you leaving?
problly when a main admin decides to lock this topic "Cause it's breaking forum rules and no one is allowed to express there oppinions"
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problly when a main admin decides to lock this topic "Cause it's breaking forum rules and no one is allowed to express there oppinions"
Its because all you say is bullshit.
Argonath IS fun Argonath HAS fun Argonath WILL HAVE FUN.
You might enjoy argonath, even if metagaming or powergaming.
Somehow you will.
So if you think argonath is: ah, what a shitty server cos its full of metagamers and powergamers,
ALL RP servers you will find it.
No matter, even if its a strict bitchy RP.
If you wanna leave server - go on.
But, stop bullshitting your community.
We donest wanna read surch things what you say.
Make your chooses, abandon friends and go play a "better" RP server.
Or stay with us.
I request this topic be locked.
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You might enjoy argonath, even if metagaming or powergaming.
Meh.
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I request this topic be locked.
i Second this movement.
Wayne you knew this was coming, i told you i was getiing sick of the shit, i have been here practically from the beginning, and for 3 years is stood by argonath no matter how bad the shit got, did you honestly think i was never gonna leave because of it?
Wayen you are one of my closest friends on argo, you know my reasons, you of all people should understand, i dont expect any of you to like me after what im saying, im making my point and thats what matters, and the only way i can make my point is to leave argo for good, i am not asking anyone to leave argo or anything, i feel that my leaving will be better for the community and my reasonings behind it will hopefully set a example.
as i said before, i honestly dont see myself coming back for a long long time if ever.
Wayne im not gonna flame you, like i said, i've known you since practically the beginning, but im tired and i fell its for the best that i leave.
i stand by everything i said with pride knowing im doing the right thing, Courage cause im not afraid of the consequences, trust that others will learn from this, And regretfullness that this is what it had to come to.
if it seems im shitting on the server,im sorry but im not... that is yours and others problems, but what i said to TAI, jaaskaa and others i stand by 100%.
im not gonna sit here and take shit cause i know what im doing is the right thing, i know jaaskaa and TAI will say i was flaming, and disrespecting admins, But i had no other way for them to understand that players like them ruin the server and make it less fun for everyone else.
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Oh man, sad to see you go, but if you want to, I won't try to stop you. Good luck with your future.
:ps: For reasons like you pointed out I always leave the server here and there, silently, so people won't bullshit at me.
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I won't try stop dark anymore,
He does not seems to listening to me..
Good bye.
PS: thanks to Watahell for fixing my grammar.
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I won't try stop dark anymore,
He donest seems to listening to me..
Good bye.
wayne will you please just talk to me on msn ffs
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After having a long talk with players and admins together, i am not leaving permantly, but i am taking a long extended break.
my views on this server are comepletely justified, but they wont get fixed if i leave, the people i talked to set my perspective right and helped me calm down.
so in the mean time i do wish you all good luck, i dont know how long i will be gone, could be a week could be a year, im unsure at this point.
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i agree with most of this, not the VC stuff as I don't play VC, but I've been with argo since the 0.1 scripts and it has changed so much for the worst. I completely agree with all of the SA:MP stuff, although we never really got along:P
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i agree with most of this, not the VC stuff as I don't play VC, but I've been with argo since the 0.1 scripts and it has changed so much for the worst. I completely agree with all of the SA:MP stuff, although we never really got along:P
lawlz i honestly cant remember why anyway
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lawlz i honestly cant remember why anyway
you probably said something i didn't like, and i responded negatively and it all kicked off haha.