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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Eugene on February 02, 2009, 02:37:55 am

Title: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Eugene on February 02, 2009, 02:37:55 am
today i was wanted and cops was chasing me. I was on my bike, and cop wayne (admin) was on other bike as shooter, and some other cadet was driving his bike. I was leaning foward on a bike to go faster, then Wayne told me that is it NOT allowed to do it, so i still kept doing it because i never heard of this rule before. Then Wayne /warn me that its not allowed to lean foward on a bike. then we (alot of ppl) had a duscussion in main chat about it. Wayne said its a glinch/bug, but i disagree with him. I think its ment to be used, because its possible to do in single player mode too. So its not a samp bug! If this is a new rule, i think it should be added to argonath RPG SAMP server rules, because i dont think people know about this rule. Waiting for your reply Gandalf, Aragorn or any other main admin.

So I want to ask are we allowed to lean foward on a bike to go faster?
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: JayL on February 02, 2009, 02:44:18 am
This should be posted here (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=18054.0).

And, as far as I know it is a glitch, but I think it's allowed though...
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on February 02, 2009, 02:45:01 am
I am not answering the question, but I will point out one thing....

He said that tapping the forward button was a glitch....

And you should of also stopped doing it when he told you to, and send in a complaint or ask a higher ranking admin, so you wouldnt of caused anything to happen.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: cDa on February 02, 2009, 02:49:37 am
As far as i know that is part of gameplay, so i realy dont see a reason why it wouldnt be alowed...
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Eugene on February 02, 2009, 02:52:21 am
As far as i know that is part of gameplay, so i realy dont see a reason why it wouldnt be alowed...

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Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: DHR.Mike on February 02, 2009, 03:49:46 am
i checked and it works in Singel Player 2 so i do not see a reason why its not allowed
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Eugene on February 02, 2009, 04:29:28 am
like 1 year ago i was playing on P**'s RL-RPG server, and i was leaning foward while going on NRG-500, and i got banned for "speed hacking" and never got unbanned  (then had to ban evade) :neutral:  :conf:
not many people knew about this "leaning foward to make u go faster" thing back then i guess
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Wayne on February 02, 2009, 05:12:25 am
Lean forward gives a unfair advantage..
it makes bikes even speed up to 300 kmh
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Eugene on February 02, 2009, 06:02:44 am
duh, bikes suppose to be fast!
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: DHR.Mike on February 02, 2009, 06:06:35 am
Speed up to 300 :neutral: the max i can go is like 200 and somtimes a bit more ith the NRG-500
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: rJCaiG on February 02, 2009, 06:09:21 am
100% allowed..not a glitch, not a bug, not some accidently put in..completely allowed  :)
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Proxan on February 02, 2009, 06:24:35 am
Lean forward gives a unfair advantage..
it makes bikes even speed up to 300 kmh


No , 220km with PCJ maybe.


As far as i know that is part of gameplay, so i realy dont see a reason why it wouldnt be alowed...

Yep correct.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Eugene on February 02, 2009, 06:33:46 am
Lean forward gives a unfair advantage..
it makes bikes even speed up to 300 kmh

i dont think u can go up to 300,
cheetah will beat PCJ-600 with leaning foward in a straight away, and cheetah go max like 260 (with nos)
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Serpico on February 02, 2009, 08:15:44 am
Sure its allowed, another own rule made.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Bianconeri on February 02, 2009, 08:27:05 am
if its scripted by R* on that way, then its allowed

 :ps: which standard button is it?
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Carhartt on February 02, 2009, 09:45:51 am
So typical ...
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Seskom on February 02, 2009, 10:12:52 am
IT gives unfair advantage it shoudlnt be allowed in my opinion
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: FlameMan on February 02, 2009, 10:16:26 am
Thats why cops are allowed to drive-by on EVERY bike...
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Wash on February 02, 2009, 10:32:59 am
It's ALLOWED..

It's NO glitch, it's on most of the GTA Games..

It's a realism thing added by Rockstar.. They did because as you lean down in real life on a bike and move there is less air resistance effecting you therefore you are able to go faster as there is less particles stopping you. Less air resistance effects you because you are making the bike more stream lined.

Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Pancher on February 02, 2009, 10:39:37 am
Are u allowed to jump with bikes to get on roof since cars cant at some places? o.O It's the same kind of question, Ofc they can lean forward to make it go faster.. But it's up to each and one to use it how they think it should be used..
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: NitrOx on February 02, 2009, 10:49:01 am
Tapping forward isn't even the fastest way to go with a bike ;)
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Wash on February 02, 2009, 10:53:13 am
Tapping forward isn't even the fastest way to go with a bike ;)

You can do a wheelie and get a huge speed if your good at it :)
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Que on February 02, 2009, 11:00:16 am
I do it everytime i got a bike.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: pixy on February 02, 2009, 11:49:03 am
I've seen both regular players and admins use this when using a bike, so I see no reason why this shouldn't be allowed. Also it's useful for cops (including myself) who are using the shitty police motorbikes that are extremely slow to chase down suspects using cars or other bikes that are really fast.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Nexxt on February 02, 2009, 12:45:59 pm
Its not scripted and its completly same in RL.

I have a scooter (what I got accident with yesterday ^^), it goes faster when I leans forward.
As u evade a part of the wind, so u can speed up.

So this is not bug or sum, something of the less realistic in GTA:SA :D
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Eric Wright on February 02, 2009, 01:20:11 pm
ROFL HAHAH GLITCH? srsly...
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on February 02, 2009, 01:53:00 pm
I remember that using that "trick" when wanted has been disallowed and punished strictly on the MTA:VC server (rule that I've heard before the SAMP server was started). It's not made up, but it's an old (and a bit forgotten) rule.

Works the same in VC as in SA. Leaning forward in the right angle (or tapping to hold it) makes your bike go much faster. IMHO it should be forbidden, since cops have to search for fast cars and additionally spend money on nitro to be able to keep up with the runner. Also, it's almost impossible to knock someone off a bike in SA.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Carhartt on February 02, 2009, 01:55:34 pm
I remember that using that "trick" when wanted has been disallowed and punished strictly on the MTA:VC server (rule that I've heard before the SAMP server was started). It's not made up, but it's an old (and a bit forgotten) rule.

Works the same in VC as in SA. Leaning forward in the right angle (or tapping to hold it) makes your bike go much faster. IMHO it should be forbidden, since cops have to search for fast cars and additionally spend money on nitro to be able to keep up with the runner. Also, it's almost impossible to knock someone off a bike in SA.

The cops can do the same with their bikes.
You can't catch a suspect? Build a team, set up roadblocks, pop the tires of the bike and geht him down with teamwork, or simply give up.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Andre93 on February 02, 2009, 02:07:10 pm
the " Bike Stunting Suspects " - can be mentioned  :devroll:
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: TruthSvensson on February 02, 2009, 04:46:21 pm
Wayne warned me for it too, i thought '' Why the fuck?!'' and i just said '' Ok '' and kept doing it :P I think it should be allowed.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Niall on February 02, 2009, 07:14:42 pm
Imo it would be ridiculous if that was made into a rule... And unless it is made official i won't be enforcing it.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Icarus on February 02, 2009, 08:08:34 pm
It worked in Vice City

It Worked in San Andreas

It worked in GTA4

It worked in Vice City Stories

It worked in LC Stories.


If it was a bug, im sure Rockstar would have made a fix by now
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: tiderman on February 02, 2009, 09:16:24 pm
If its not allowed then it should IMO. I see nothing wrong with it.. I think the PCJ is too slow anyways :P

Does it work IRL? I'll try it with my ATV!
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Mangus on February 02, 2009, 10:12:36 pm
There is several techniques for bikes that increases speed. One of the techniques is called RAD, which is pretty much the one described in this topic, except it's a hell lot faster. 

Also, calling 300 km/h on a PCJ something that's unlikely is wrong. I could, on request, make a video from the ArgonathRPG server to show that speeds over 320 isn't a problem if you know what you are doing.

However,

I admit that it gives an advantage for bikes against cars, but it's not that "unnatural" if you think about it.

When you lean forward many times very fast, called "tapping", the character seem to crouch on the bike, which any person could understand would reduce the speeddecreasement from the airblow.

This is a glitch/bug/technique that Rockstar Games did, so in my point of view, if should be allowed. Bikes are only good straight forward or offroad, and since you can bail with them with just a tiny ram, they are not that good for escaping with, unless you are skilled.


I came to Argonath from GTAStunting, which you can hear from the name is a stunting community. Bikes are common used in stunting, and without these kinds of methods, bike stunting would get lamed.

So, my conclusion is, if this not is allowed already, allow it. If you use it for evading the cops - fine. Cops already has advantage over criminals, so a rule against this would make the difference even bigger.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on February 02, 2009, 10:26:30 pm
It is not a glitch... Its more of a real aspect of the game. Criminals can do it, so can cops. Its just another advantage of being on a bike instead in a car.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on February 02, 2009, 10:49:02 pm
and since you can bail with them with just a tiny ram,

Bullcrap :neutral:
In VC yes, it's easy, but not in SA.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Carhartt on February 02, 2009, 10:54:17 pm
Bullcrap :neutral:
In VC yes, it's easy, but not in SA.

Magnus is right, one tiny lag ram and you're off the bike.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Wash on February 02, 2009, 11:17:22 pm
ROFL HAHAH GLITCH? srsly...
yeah.. we have some people who think they're a little to clever.. :|
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Eugene on February 03, 2009, 12:13:41 am
As far as i know that is part of gameplay, so i realy dont see a reason why it wouldnt be alowed...
cDa's



100% allowed..not a glitch, not a bug, not some accidently put in..completely allowed  :)

Giacjr's


case solved, can be locked now,
thanx
(dont make up ur own rulez please :D )
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: David_Omid on February 03, 2009, 01:29:34 am
There is a way to get to MAXIMUM speed on a bike:


Tap forward until you get your head level with the handlebars

That's what I ALWAYS do when riding a bike...since when was there a rule against it? It was from single player and is not just in San Andreas! It's in Vice City too...and real life!

Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Squeak on February 03, 2009, 01:35:36 am
There is a way to get to MAXIMUM speed on a bike:


Tap forward until you get your head level with the handlebars

That's what I ALWAYS do when riding a bike...since when was there a rule against it? It was from single player and is not just in San Andreas! It's in Vice City too...and real life!


Or you can use the RAD method, works way better...
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on February 03, 2009, 02:23:38 am
I think one of Aragorn or Gandalf should reply to this. Some admins think its allowed and actually do it themselves, so if it is a glitch then they are cheating. And some admins think its dis allowed, and if they are wrong well then.... I think we all want a final word on the issue.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: DHR.Mike on February 03, 2009, 02:56:54 am
lol Why do many people think when you use Nos you go faster Thats not true when you use Nos your speed can go up faster when your at the max speed of the car you wil not go faster if you use nos
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Wash on February 03, 2009, 02:58:17 am
lol Why do many people think when you use Nos you go faster Thats not true when you use Nos your speed can go up faster when your at the max speed of the car you wil not go faster if you use nos

NOS inscreases acceleration a bit, but it can decrease if you have a shitty PC because NOS will give quite some lag..
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: DHR.Mike on February 03, 2009, 06:02:42 am
true but nos wil not make your car go Faster
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Shifter on February 03, 2009, 06:41:19 am
If one cop cannot catch a criminal because he is clever and uses the wind resistance to make him go faster, why doesn't the cop call for backup? Or like Carhartt said, build roadblocks etc.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Trobby888 on February 03, 2009, 10:25:47 am
It worked in Vice City Stories

??????????? I tried that, barely even worked. The bike stayed at the same speed as if I wasn't tapping the button.

Anyway, it may be considered a glitch, however, it's still allowed (I think) . A suspect using a bike and doing this should be fine by me, as long as they don't say "ZOMFG, I'M SO OWNAGE, HAHA COPS" with it.
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: David_Omid on February 03, 2009, 10:46:00 am
I have in my hands a GTA San Andreas magazine guide which was published when the game first came out...


One of the pages explains different ways of going faster! THIS is one of them!

If it were a bug it wouldn't say it...plus this is in EVERY GTA game with bikes!
Title: Re: Gandalf and Aragorn, question for you
Post by: Julian on February 03, 2009, 04:25:15 pm
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Lol, same as my avatar :P
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