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Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: Omri on February 15, 2009, 08:39:28 pm
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Hello
Lately I have been philosophyed about the purpose of drinking and to be quite honest I only come to the conclusion is waste of money, I can say proudly that I am not drinking and last time i've been drunk its 2 years ago and I did not enjoy it well not as it ended bad or anything I just do not find any pleasure in drinking as I do in other stuff :). I've want to ask the people of Argonath some questions and I want you to answer honest :
As some of you might know I do smoke the gods of mother nature and nothing else as I think its quite normal and finds it relaxing, but as I want to ask you to find different views on it to get a better horisont about this as I never figured out why people do drink, I only came to conclusions but I doubt thats true what I do think.
Why do you drink?:
Why are you not drinking ( religion or having the same attitude like me) ?
What pleasure you find in drinking?:
Are you drinking often ( Everyday, weekends or anything more ) ?:
How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?:
Thanks for beeing honest and taking your time to answer on this questions for me as I do got many thoughts about this subject and allways had, i'm a muslim and I cannot deny that I have not been drinking but as I realised that I aint finds a pleasure in drinking I stopped drinking, I see myself as a good muslim because of that but my friends says something else.
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The purpose of drinking is to get drunk. When you get drunk, you are always having fun (atleast me), you are always cincere and you are almost immortal.
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Why do you drink?: to have fun, celebrate some occasion or simbolical
Why are you not drinking ( religion or having the same attitude like me) ?
What pleasure you find in drinking?: i drink because i like getting in the effect of beeing drunk - beeing happy and all, and i drink with friend's - mostly every friday - just to celebrate Friday :lol: (( friday is a celebration - what russians like me believe ))
Are you drinking often ( Everyday, weekends or anything more ) ?: mostly every friday. but sometimes every 2 weeks.
How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?: amm... well we usualy throw up on 15 lits (( for beer [ sometimes it can be vodka] + snacks )) - every time. - 1 eur. is about some 3.40 lits. - in a month i maybe can spend some 30-20 lits
and just for the record, i never drink alone.
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I wont answer your questions there.. because I really don't have an answer for em'.
I first started drinking when I was 14 (pretty young I guess), I always had a fun time drinking (from my point of view) but my friends told me I could get really aggresive and so this went on for almost a year till one day when I came home late, drunk (not massive drunk). I've got my mom yelling at me, wakeing up my little brother and he's watching me, crying (he was 10). I couldn't stand the image of him crying and my mom yelling so I decided to stop right after turning 15.
I'll try to answer your questions. I was drinking like once every weekend and can't really say how much money I spent, quite allot though. Drinking complicated my life at that age.. but I guess I wasen't the only one with that problem.
I'm now 16, soon to be 17 and I haven't touched alchohol since I was 15, but I probably will after moving out as it felt like.. a relief..
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Thanks for beeing so honest and taking your time to answer. But i'm sorry to say what you wrote has not helped me with my thoughts here, but I just think there is something wrong with me as I feel i'm the only one that cannot find the "secret" ingredient in drinking but I can imagine having fun with alchohol with your friends just like smokin' a spliff with your mates.
And Legend I do know the main purpose of it but allthough that I want to get deeper into your thoughts.
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I agree in some way with you Omri..
I started drinking when I was 12 (Yes, too young..),
At that time, I was drinking just to get drunk with friends, and get that 'drunken' feeling..
Later I realized, after looking at my alcoholic grandfather that it's not giving me that much pleasure, and I decided that I don't want to dump my life since I just started them...
I still drink, But no often at all...
Maybe once a month or anything like that, in small amounts, not till getting drunk.
Only when I'm stressed or just had a bad week and I want to get relaxed a little bit...
I'm against drinking in big amounts, that will ruin you're life..
I think, Even if it's a 13 year old boy, He can drink - As long as he knows that if he over drinks it can ruin he's life and it's not worth it.
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Why do you drink?:It makes me feel good inside but i puke on morning, i think that good feeling is reason why i drink
Why are you not drinking ( religion or having the same attitude like me) ?:
What pleasure you find in drinking?:It makes me feel good,everything seems funny etc
Are you drinking often ( Everyday, weekends or anything more ) ?:I used to drink on weekends but i got busted with 3.27 to my mom and she wont let me to stay for night to anyones place
How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?: Depends on stuff, i havent drank for pretty long now like a month cause my mom is like extra sensitive on alcohol, she gets it from my red eyes or something.
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Seeing this modern "fashion" to start early drinking as a propaganda I have been thinking its way too early to drink when you are around 11-14. Seskom, how can it be a good feeling if you puke the next morning :P ?
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I dont drink fully, but occasionally I do on celebrations/parties.
Not to get drunk, I dont binge drink..
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Erm... I drink 1 beer a week... :roll:
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Just one thing, How big is the difference of pleasure, from drinking Beer, and Coke, I have never drunk any Alcohol before, But I'm addicted to Coke.
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There is a huge difference
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Seeing this modern "fashion" to start early drinking as a propaganda I have been thinking its way too early to drink when you are around 11-14. Seskom, how can it be a good feeling if you puke the next morning :P ?
Thing is, you don't really care about tomorrow, it's all for the moment, sadly you think just like this the next time you drink..and the next.. and the next.
Atleast I did..
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I dont drink fully, but occasionally I do on celebrations/parties.
Not to get drunk, I dont binge drink..
Why you choosed to drink then ?
Just one thing, How big is the difference of pleasure, from drinking Beer, and Coke, I have never drunk any Alcohol before, But I'm addicted to Coke.
Thats my question if you aint knew, what is the hidden pleasure in drinking ? I do not understand it or maybe i'm just stubborn and aint willing to try to understand the pleasure in drinking. How come you never has intaked any form for alchohol ?
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I have never drunk any Alcohol before, But I'm addicted to Coke.
Yeah, me too.. I havent done any coke since last week.. My hands begins to shake and I get all like.. batshit crazy over the smallest thing.. wait, are we talking about the same coke here?
Anyways.. I haven't taken a single beer in my life. Theres like 20 of them in my closet, though. Well, not for me ofcourse.. But they're "Christmas beers" and forgotten.. I wouldn't like to end up falling down the stairs drunk singing swedish folksongs infront of my parents, that wouldnt be "the shit" because I'm the "good kind of kid", you know? I never done anything "wrong" in my life.. Except for that guy that one time.. He was on to us.. what?
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Why do you drink?: I started drinking when i was 14, The last time i got drunk was last night, to celebrate Valentines day with my girlfriend. I feel that drinking can make people feel more cheerfull, it makes people feel more confident and makes people more open. Last night i was feeling a bit depressed due to personal reasons, but later on when i was drinking i felt more cheerfull and felt i actually wanted to have a good time, it is a mood lifter, but if you take too much it can end badly.
Why are you not drinking ( religion or having the same attitude like me) ? Im athiest, and i enjoy drinking
What pleasure you find in drinking?: I answered above
Are you drinking often ( Everyday, weekends or anything more ) ?: Every weekend
How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?: about £9 (Me and my friends put money together to buy alchohol.)
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I do not hope that you guys are taking cocaine ;), its damn expensive and a dirty drug but back to the topic ;)
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lol cocaine is nasty, it is expensive and highly addictive, and can ruin lives. Though, i suppose that is personal opinion.
If you are taking drugs, stick to the softies. (Weed/hash.. ect)
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Why do you drink?: I started drinking when i was 14, The last time i got drunk was last night, to celebrate Valentines day with my girlfriend. I feel that drinking can make people feel more cheerfull, it makes people feel more confident and makes people more open. Last night i was feeling a bit depressed due to personal reasons, but later on when i was drinking i felt more cheerfull and felt i actually wanted to have a good time, it is a mood lifter, but if you take too much it can end badly.
I must admit that you are right with the things I made with a bold text. But why does these things happend when you are "drunk" ?, why can't we just be like that when we aint drunk or high for this case.
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Yeah, me too.. I havent done any coke since last week.. My hands begins to shake and I get all like.. batshit crazy over the smallest thing.. wait, are we talking about the same coke here?
Anyways.. I haven't taken a single beer in my life. Theres like 20 of them in my closet, though. Well, not for me ofcourse.. But they're "Christmas beers" and forgotten.. I wouldn't like to end up falling down the stairs drunk singing swedish folksongs infront of my parents
I'm talking about Coca Cola... :lol:
Omri, I haven't took it because, Its against our religon.
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Sorry for double posting guys, but Romeo I must disagree with you when you are saying cocaine is highly addictive when I am talking by experience its not that addictive as people think it is, you can easly try it once and it effects you but addictive ?, I strongly doubt that but as I cannot talk for other people I must only stick to my own thoughts. Its different from the individual person, and Tupac I admire you if you are not drinking because of your religion but as I think its because you live in the middleeast its quite hard to drink there as people have much faith there, as I live in Denmark we just do what we feel for. Its first now I have been thinking of quitting all the bad things that I am doing, but I gotta start one place but when and where I do not know yet but I am sure that will find place soon enough in my life when I get more mature.
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The Alcohol has this effect on us for scientific reasons, Acohol is a drug. it alters your system to make you act this way, when you are under the influence of Alcohol and Drugs, it changes the way you think, thus making you act different. You cannot act like this without being under the influence unless you are just naturally this way.
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Well Omri, it depends on the purity of the cocaine that you take. Cocaine at its purest is more addictive than many other drugs at their purest.
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I must disagree with you and saying cocaine is not the most highly addictive drug, you and NOBODY else is making the drug addictive, you do choose if you wanna intake alchohol / drugs and nobody else but I do know the "addiction" when you are used to be around with drugs but if you look deeper in it its only you that can change it.
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Heroin IS the MOST addictive, but cocaine is still very addictive at its purest. i did not say it was most addictive :)
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I'm sorry for this misunderstanding then, I have edited my post with some more information than earlier.
Keep on with the replies, I love these big "talk alot" topics :P.
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Well, being addicted to a drug such as Heroin is extremely easy to do, but extremely difficult do stop. Because after a short period of time of taking this drug, your body refuses to fight it off, and starts using it to function. and after a short period of time, your body begins to depend on it. it becomes like eating/sleeping. Just imagine willfully not eating forever, except you do not die. I have friends who were addicted to such drugs and let me tell you, Seeing them in the state that they get in while trying to get off these drugs is heartbreaking.
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Well, being addicted to a drug such as Heroin is extremely easy to do, but extremely difficult do stop. Because after a short period of time of taking this drug, your body refuses to fight it off, and starts using it to function. and after a short period of time, your body begins to depend on it. it becomes like eating/sleeping. Just imagine willfully not eating forever, except you do not die. I have friends who were addicted to such drugs and let me tell you, Seeing them in the state that they get in while trying to get off these drugs is heartbreaking.
I totally understand you, I'm glad that you also got some experience about this subject. But i'm truely sorry for your friends if they have been in that bad environment, once you in it its hard to leave the environment.
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Why you choosed to drink then ?
I aleady said; I dont drink much. Only on occasions.. Last time I drank alcohol was last August.
And that was only a few glasses of Sangria, and one glass of Champagne. Didnt really get properly drunk
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And therefor I am asking, why do you choose / did choose to drink just because of the speciels occasions ?
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I suppose its like a tradition isn't it, alcohol has been used as a beverage in celebrations and parties for centuries.
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I suppose its like a tradition isn't it, alcohol has been used as a beverage in celebrations and parties for centuries.
A better answer could not be giving, thanks.
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Heroin IS the MOST addictive, but cocaine is still very addictive at its purest. i did not say it was most addictive :)
I'd say that alchohol is the biggest drug and therefore probably the most addictive one.
Don't mind my sig saying otherwise :razz:
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We all got different views on drugs / alchohol, but as I am at my brothers apartment with my friend we are going to watch a movie now then I am going for now, i'm gonna check replies later on the night when I feel for it :).
Good night for now
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I'm Irish.. enough explanation? I come onto the server more nights than enough completely wiped, its in my culture though, everyone drinks here from they are about 13/14. For example I have a cousin, he is 16, and he told his mother he doesn't want to drink until he is 18, now he is getting grief becuase of it a 'lil bit and everyone can't believe it. To be quite honest, it is alot of fun, gives me more confidence, even though i'm already a pretty confident guy, makes me dance like crazy and gives me that 'numb' & 'buzzing' feeling.
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I'm Irish.. enough explanation? I come onto the server more nights than enough completely wiped, its in my culture though, everyone drinks here from they are about 13/14. For example I have a cousin, he is 16, and he told his mother he doesn't want to drink until he is 18, now he is getting grief becuase of it a 'lil bit and everyone can't believe it. To be quite honest, it is alot of fun, gives me more confidence, even though i'm already a pretty confident guy, makes me dance like crazy and gives me that 'numb' & 'buzzing' feeling.
Haha, I could imagine Anthony with a skirt dancing while beeing totally drunk
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I'm 14 and I have the occasional beer. I don't like strong alcohol and I have never been drunk.
Haha, I could imagine Anthony with a skirt dancing while beeing totally drunk
... You ruined my morning.
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He means since I play the bagpipes, I wear a kilt regularly, and for anyone who asks, Kilts are orignially Irish, tartans are scottish, 2 different things.. ;)
Omri is right though, seeing as I always a have a 'few' drinks after I play it usually ends up the way he says :lol:
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well, i get drunk simply for enjoyment, you're a lot more confident, and seem to love everything...but most people do it as a pathetic attempt at getting laid ahaha.
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Why do I drink? Well like most of the people have said, it usually makes my mood a lot better, I become more sociable, honest and out spoken. Why can't I be that always? - Because I control myself a lot more, but alcohol eases up the control of my alter-ego, so I say out the things I really think in real life, but won't usually say. How often I drink? - Well maybe once a month
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Seeing this modern "fashion" to start early drinking as a propaganda I have been thinking its way too early to drink when you are around 11-14. Seskom, how can it be a good feeling if you puke the next morning :P ?
I feel good at evening but i puke at morning. :P
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-I drink because I enjoy the feeling, especially in social situations, people relaxing
-I like how it lowers people's guards (in some others it has the opposite effect and makes them aggressive), but I enjoy people relaxing and having a drink with me.
-Randomly throughout the week, not to excess most the time.
-Probably 10 bucks, I just go to parties and drink their beer.
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Drinking is one of the not-so-many reasons for why I go out of my house
I drink to get relaxed, and I get a bit more open towards others when after a beer or two.
Beer is cheap in Poland - it costs ususally 2 to 2,5zl per 0,5l.
Rate of exchange taken from google:
1USD = 2,43PLN (= 1 beer)
1EUR = 3,55PLN (= 1,5 beers, or 1 0,66l beer)
1GBP = 4,97PLN (= 2 beers)
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I rarely drink. My friends? Hell, they drink a lot. But I don't. I'm *usually* the only sober guy of the group, haha.
I don't like the taste nor the effect of drinking. I'm not trying to look "z0mg awesome" but I hope to never need alcohol to make me feel happy and sincere.
I only drink as in a "social" way, like in new year, etc. But there was countless times where I aided my drunk friends, lmao.
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I'm not much of a drinker. But, if I'm with a couple of close friends or family, hell I'll throw back a couple of beers.
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My point of view:
People drink to hide their emotions and feelings. Actually people drink to poison themselves because drinking alcohol is poisoning yourself. Why do you think you don't like it the first time? Because you are intoxicating yourself!!!
I do not drink and currently I am not thinking about drinking. I do want to know how it is to be drunk, but that's all..
I guess it's just "fun" to try to poison yourself with others...
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Yihka, speaking without experiance is kinda... I dunno, pointless.
I don't drink.
Don't like the idea of getting "shitfaced".
But I do not have anything against drinking, or people who drink.
I'm rather a smoker then a drinker :>
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Thing is, alcohol actually is atype of chemical poison - ethanol.
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Actually, docots recomend an alcoholic beverage like beer or wine for everyone a day. ((not moon shine...)) It does have its health benefits. Bot not alot of it....why do you think we have a liver? Ofc there are posions in it but as long as you have a healthly liver it would get filtered.
http://www.allaboutbeer.com/features/233beer&health.html (http://www.allaboutbeer.com/features/233beer&health.html)
This will give you some more insight into it. And it has researched materials, not some shot faced idiot who thinks beer is good.
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My point of view:
People drink to hide their emotions and feelings. Actually people drink to poison themselves because drinking alcohol is poisoning yourself. Why do you think you don't like it the first time? Because you are intoxicating yourself!!!
I do not drink and currently I am not thinking about drinking. I do want to know how it is to be drunk, but that's all..
I guess it's just "fun" to try to poison yourself with others...
i used to have your exact view, same on smoking anything....I soon changed, yeah it made me a bit of a hypocrite, but oh well lol, nothing wrong with getting drunk every month or so.
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That's what I hate about most of the countries, they do propaganda from the early years to kids, just so that they won't drink any alcohol or smoke anything. And from that propaganda comes the understanding what for example yihka have.
Please, give people a proper information about alcohol not what I hear everyday: "Alcohol destroys your liver, person dead from alcohol poisoning, people walked in front of the car because he was drunk. Young people drank and almost died in their own vomit" What about the good sides? The times when you actually have fun drinking beer, or other alcohol, why ain't those stories in the news?
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What about the good sides? The times when you actually have fun drinking beer, or other alcohol, why ain't those stories in the news?
Because the government, news agencies etc. are trying to spread bullshit.
Sure, people die when they are drunk, but 95% of the time those people are idiots and natural selection takes care of that.
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Why do you drink?: having fun with my friends, not much though
Why are you not drinking ( religion or having the same attitude like me) ?
What pleasure you find in drinking?: fun with friends
Are you drinking often ( Everyday, weekends or anything more ) ?: couple of times a year, im not really a drinker
How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?: average a month isnt worth noticing
i think beer and all is mostly for enjoying with your friends
@jubin:
why governement do that? kinda logic,
you arent waiting for a country full of drunk ppl,
a healthy country without alcohol is what they want,
cant blame them, alcohol isnt good for ya, you can have fun with friends without it too,
it destroys your brain also,
seeing your answer shows the right of that brain damage,
that you even wonder why they only show the bad side,
its very logic, and even a baby would understand that
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why ain't those stories in the news?
Because noone wants to read about how you sang japanese christmas songs all night...
haha :P
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@jubin:
why governement do that? kinda logic,
you arent waiting for a country full of drunk ppl,
a healthy country without alcohol is what they want,
cant blame them, alcohol isnt good for ya, you can have fun with friends without it too,
it destroys your brain also,
seeing your answer shows the right of that brain damage,
that you even wonder why they only show the bad side,
its very logic, and even a baby would understand that
Actually you are quite wrong. The goverment of many countries promotes the usage and spreading of the alcohol in diffrent ways (hidden ofcourse, not obvious). I am talking about TV commercials, campaigns and many other diffrent stuff.
The goverment makes a lot of money from producing, selling, importing, exporting and the most important - usage of diffrent alcohol drinks. Many people drink alcohol as it is healthy for their kidneys (not in big ammounts ofcourse) and helps them in difficult situations. I can assure you that the goverment understands that and finds a way of winning money from the alcohol, instead of making people not drink it.
Alcohol helps people in tough moments. It helps most remove the depression and make them feel a little better by drinking. For some people it removes limits, they go all crazy and wild without caring what would actually happen in the "other world" when they sober down. However, some people have quite a labile mentality and get addicted to the drinks they tried first very easily. Furthermore, some of them end up living on the streets, drunk every night, begging people for money to buy a drink and so on...
But this is only 1 case in 1,000,000 drinkers, so not to worry about it, you can have fun with friends!
Also, your facts are not quite correct, not any alcohol I know damages your brain and/ or your brain progress and cells. Except if you don't drink 5 litres of vodka and whiskey every day, there is no way your brain could be damaged by drinking...
Ofcourse, let's not forget... saying that a baby could understand the complicated way economics are held by the goverment does not speak good for you. Maybe your brain was damaged by too much alcohol? :lol:
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If you are introduced to alcohol at a young age, take the French for example, You are proven to have less alcohol related broblems, like binging and getting totally wrecked. If your parents allow you to try it at a young age, you tend to accept that a small amount is enough.
The consumption of alcohol is not illegal at any age. The purchase is, not the actul consumption ;)
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The consumption of alcohol is not illegal at any age. The purchase is, not the actul consumption ;)
In my country, purchasing alcohol under the age of 18 is strictly forbidden. They can fine the shop owner with around 5000 euros for selling cigarettes or alcohol to the kids under 18 years.
However, it is fully legalized to drink and/ or smoke at any age, no law that prohibits that.
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@jubin:
why governement do that? kinda logic,
you arent waiting for a country full of drunk ppl,
a healthy country without alcohol is what they want,
cant blame them, alcohol isnt good for ya, you can have fun with friends without it too,
it destroys your brain also,
seeing your answer shows the right of that brain damage,
that you even wonder why they only show the bad side,
its very logic, and even a baby would understand that
Why are you calling me brain damaged? Did I said that country should encourage people to become alcoholics? Everything is lethal if you drink it too much, even water. I only wish that country would give the right information about alcoholic drinks, so people themselves have the right basis to consider starting to drink.
There are also 2 Estonian sayings about alcohol: "Võta pits ja pea aru." - "Take a shot and think it trough". It means, when you are too tense, don't make the decisions, but alcohol takes that tension away.
"Alkohol on tarkade jook" - "Alcohol is the beverage of the smart" It means that alcohol must be consumed in right amounts, by the people who know how much is enough.
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The purpose of drinking is to get totally sh1t faced and take advantage of your fellow female drunks. Also the real reason for alcohols invention was so ugly chicks could get laid.
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Amen to that, brother!
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The purpose of drinking is to get totally sh1t faced and take advantage of your fellow female drunks. Also the real reason for alcohols invention was so ugly chicks could get laid.
Definately..................
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Alcohol is not hiding emotions or making people forget, when taken in reasonable quantity.
Instead by dringking, you will show your true state of mind and feelings.
Are you an asshole ? You will become violent when drunk.
Are you feeling sad ? You will cry without ending.
Are you happy ? You will have a great party time.
You should not drink to get drunk, but drink because you have something to celebrate. Never drink alone, never drink without limits or get pulled in to a contest of ' who can drink more' .
I tasted alcohol as young age, and can taste the difference in taste in even the strongest alcoholic beverages.
But I never got so drunk I have no recollection of what happened, or lost control over myself.
Its not just drinking, its knowing how to drink to have a good time.
As for tobacco and sorts, I can not judge as I have never smoked anything.
What I see it has a calming effect, but is very hard to break as a habit and only the strong can stop.
Now for governments. Do not ever think they really wish people to stop smoking and drinking. If you do, check the tax income they get yearly from this and you will know better very quick.
Also definition of an alcoholic is very different in the West and in the East. In Holland people who have a habit of drinking alcohol every day are seen as close to being an alcoholic. In the East an alcoholic is someone who has a liver disease and needs to drink alcohol to survive.
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Alcohol is not hiding emotions or making people forget, when taken in reasonable quantity.
For the weak it does
Instead by dringking, you will show your true state of mind and feelings.
I speak freely of my thoughts all the time, alcohol is not needed for that. Many people are like me.
Are you an asshole ? You will become violent when drunk.
You don't always have to be an asshole to be violent while under the influence, I have drawn blood on others who insult me.
Are you feeling sad ? You will cry without ending.
Most men can hold a cry. If not, some are just like me and just can't cry. It doesn't happen no matter what.
Are you happy ? You will have a great party time.
Happiness never means good time.
You should not drink to get drunk, but drink because you have something to celebrate. Never drink alone, never drink without limits or get pulled in to a contest of ' who can drink more' .
It is a waste of money to drink without getting drunk, it is the main purpose of alcohol. You don't need to celebrate to drink, you can simply drink with a friend. You can drink alone if theres nothing else in the fridge. Like most men, we all like a bit of competition so drinking contests is a part of all our genes.
I tasted alcohol as young age, and can taste the difference in taste in even the strongest alcoholic beverages.
But I never got so drunk I have no recollection of what happened, or lost control over myself.
I had my first sip of alcohol when I was no more than a year old, obviously never drank any more than a mouthful until I was 12. I have been completely wasted but have always had the strength to tell which is right and wrong and what to avoid and what not, many people are the same.
Its not just drinking, its knowing how to drink to have a good time.
There isn't a specific way to drink to have a good time.
As for tobacco and sorts, I can not judge as I have never smoked anything.
What I see it has a calming effect, but is very hard to break as a habit and only the strong can stop.
I smoke because I enjoy it just as much as an occasional jim beam and cola. It is hard to break the habit but its just getting into the habit of thinking of a different subject when the craving begins which is the key.
Now for governments. Do not ever think they really wish people to stop smoking and drinking. If you do, check the tax income they get yearly from this and you will know better very quick.
No sh1t
Also definition of an alcoholic is very different in the West and in the East. In Holland people who have a habit of drinking alcohol every day are seen as close to being an alcoholic. In the East an alcoholic is someone who has a liver disease and needs to drink alcohol to survive.
Wrong. Very wrong.
Definition of an alcoholic:
Someone who enjoys the feeling of being under the influence of alcohol, or simply enjoys the taste. You don't call people who drink coca cola everyday a coke-o-holic. Alcoholic is just as big as a problem as a person who eats mcdonalds everyday or like many of you, sit on the computer and stare into space for hours on end in an online gaming server.
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That's what I hate about most of the countries, they do propaganda from the early years to kids, just so that they won't drink any alcohol or smoke anything. And from that propaganda comes the understanding what for example yihka have.
Please, give people a proper information about alcohol not what I hear everyday: "Alcohol destroys your liver, person dead from alcohol poisoning, people walked in front of the car because he was drunk. Young people drank and almost died in their own vomit" What about the good sides? The times when you actually have fun drinking beer, or other alcohol, why ain't those stories in the news?
Just want to make clear it has to do nothing with my way of thinking...
You can drink okay. But getting drunk is BAD for you. Drinking little is maybe too but your body can take it.
But yeah I probably shouldnt interfere since I have only tried it once.
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You can drink okay. But getting drunk is BAD for you. Drinking little is maybe too but your body can take it.
But yeah I probably shouldnt interfere since I have only tried it once.
You are saying like every amount of alcohol is bad for you, hmm. Let's take wine:
1. Feed your head
Wine could preserve your memory. When researchers gave memory quizzes to women in their 70s, those who drank one drink or more every day scored much better than those who drank less or not at all.
2. Keep the scale in your corner
Studies find that people who drink wine daily have lower body mass than those who indulge occasionally
3. Boost your body’s defenses
In one British study, those who drank roughly a glass of wine a day reduced by 11% their risk of infection by Helicobacter pylori bacteria, a major cause of gastritis, ulcers, and stomach cancers.
4. Guard against ovarian woes
When Australian researchers recently compared women with ovarian cancer to cancer-free women, they found that roughly one glass of wine a day seemed to reduce the risk of the disease by as much as 50 percent.
5. Build better bones
On average, women who drink moderately seem to have higher bone mass than abstainers.
6. Prevent blood-sugar trouble
Premenopausal women who drink one or two glasses of wine a day are 40 percent less likely than women who don’t drink to develop type 2 diabetes.
http://eating.health.com/2008/02/11/6-reasons-to-drink-wine/ (http://eating.health.com/2008/02/11/6-reasons-to-drink-wine/)
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Yihka, you have your idea what you are talking about..... Show some proof of what you are saying. Same thing for this poodani guy or whatever his name is.
http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/alcoholandhealth.html (http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/alcoholandhealth.html)
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Scientists or people who test these sorts of things mostly make mistakes. And this one could be to test it on former alcohol drinkers or alcohol drinkers. Not someone who has never drunk alcohol once. ( Almost impossible to find. )
You are saying like every amount of alcohol is bad for you, hmm. Let's take wine:
1. Feed your head
Wine could preserve your memory. When researchers gave memory quizzes to women in their 70s, those who drank one drink or more every day scored much better than those who drank less or not at all.
Well to former or alcohol drinkers, you will think clearer because you get relaxed or less worried and can think clearer by drinking it. I wonder if it's the same with people who have never drunk it.
2. Keep the scale in your corner
Studies find that people who drink wine daily have lower body mass than those who indulge occasionally
No comment.
3. Boost your body’s defenses
In one British study, those who drank roughly a glass of wine a day reduced by 11% their risk of infection by Helicobacter pylori bacteria, a major cause of gastritis, ulcers, and stomach cancers.
I agree on that. By drinking poison your defenses get better. When you get a sickness you will be more resistant to it after it.
Just one thing you can question: Would you body be more resistant against those sicknesses when you have not drunk alcohol at all?
4. Guard against ovarian woes
When Australian researchers recently compared women with ovarian cancer to cancer-free women, they found that roughly one glass of wine a day seemed to reduce the risk of the disease by as much as 50 percent.
If you really want to believe that, then do so...
5. Build better bones
On average, women who drink moderately seem to have higher bone mass than abstainers.
No comment.
6. Prevent blood-sugar trouble
Premenopausal women who drink one or two glasses of wine a day are 40 percent less likely than women who don’t drink to develop type 2 diabetes.
It's probably Alcohol drinkers VS Former Alcohol drinkers ( one glass does count ) When taking it for the first time you are already poisoned which means that not drinking it would make you more vulnerable for it.. Or not.. Yep you can show proof it does not but I don't think you can trust such thing. It's not certain.
http://eating.health.com/2008/02/11/6-reasons-to-drink-wine/ (http://eating.health.com/2008/02/11/6-reasons-to-drink-wine/)
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I know all that... That's what they say... Well I only know one thing for sure: Getting drunk is not good. Drinking one or two might be ok if you have tried it.
Well I wish I could show some proof but no one has ever thought about the test being a fake because everyone wants to believe it is good for you...
I'm just saying what I think.. You can believe it or not and just continue drinking while thinking it is good for you.
Poison stays poison. Poison does not change into something good.
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Scientists or people who test these sorts of things mostly make mistakes. And this one could be to test it on former alcohol drinkers or alcohol drinkers. Not someone who has never drunk alcohol once...
You know, your text seems like the ones, who has been proven wrong and now just is being stubborn. Why do I say like that? - You say scientist are people who make these kind of test makes mistake, and you say you are right without even testing anything yourself. So because you are feeling you are lost you are going into nihilism.
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http://www.allaboutbeer.com/features/233beer&health.html (http://www.allaboutbeer.com/features/233beer&health.html)
Theres another website that you can see what is wrong with.
If scientists are always wrong, then we would be totally screwed arent we? Not only do they show proof and eveidence, and do tests after tests, they are right. Hey maybe the moon is made out of cheese and astranuats and everyone who studys the solar system made a mistake. I think jubin is 100% spot on. Just because someone introduces a fact that you dont like, dont reply to it with "um ok then..." or "if you want to believe that", it makes you sound like you have a low IQ. Reply with opposing eveidence. The truth may go against your beliefs, but its still the truth...
Remember now, its universitys doing these studies, not kindergartens.
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I just drink to get Drunk... most of the time i usally go to the Pub and play Pool when am drinking so it's not really that bad.
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For the weak it does
Incorrect. I can assure you that if you are strong and wilful and you get very drunk, you will still forget all responsibilities, emotions and etcetera.
I speak freely of my thoughts all the time, alcohol is not needed for that. Many people are like me.
Also incorrect. There are things that are just not supposed to be said on moments (to the right people, to friends, to everybody), no matter if you are cincere and honest or not. If you are drunk - those "limits" disappear and you start saying EVERYTHING on your mind, no matter whom it is addressed to. There are also not many cincere and honest people left, I doubt you are one of them aswell, but this is the internet, who knows...
EXAMPLE: You see an ugly officer.
Sober: You just go around him and then slightly laught after you already went past him.
Drunk: You go to him and say: "Officer, you are very ugly, hahahahaha" and he beats the hell outta you and then maybe arrests you too.
You don't always have to be an asshole to be violent while under the influence, I have drawn blood on others who insult me.
You are a big man, very brave on the Internet. But let me educate you on the influence of the alcohol a little:
When you get drunk, you feel immortal. If you are a regular teenager and you get drunk, four men would look like little girls to you and you will probably start a fight. You will get your ass kicked and on the other day you won't feel half of your body. So, whoever is drunk, they like fighting and they feel they prevail on their opponent when fighting.
Most men can hold a cry. If not, some are just like me and just can't cry. It doesn't happen no matter what.
Happiness never means good time.
Most men cry, but this is mostly when they are drunk or under the influence of amfetamines. We understood already you are a big man and very strong on the Internet, but beats me why, I don't believe you... ;)
Happiness can mean good time if you know how to behave and simply have some fun.
It is a waste of money to drink without getting drunk, it is the main purpose of alcohol. You don't need to celebrate to drink, you can simply drink with a friend. You can drink alone if theres nothing else in the fridge. Like most men, we all like a bit of competition so drinking contests is a part of all our genes.
You can drink without getting drunk, it's even better. When you get drunk, people see you in a bad light and you make a fool out of yourself if you go out with people who are not drunk. If you drink for example three bottles of beer - you won't get drunk, but you will have good time, because it only gives you a wave of preparation for fun and good time.
I had my first sip of alcohol when I was no more than a year old, obviously never drank any more than a mouthful until I was 12. I have been completely wasted but have always had the strength to tell which is right and wrong and what to avoid and what not, many people are the same.
This is not possible. Even if it is, your parents must be crazy to have given you alcohol at the age of 1 year or below. Not many people know what to do and when and what is right or wRONg, it's even the opposite - only a few know.
There isn't a specific way to drink to have a good time.
There is ofcourse, if you are with your best mates and the people who surround and support you every day.
I smoke because I enjoy it just as much as an occasional jim beam and cola. It is hard to break the habit but its just getting into the habit of thinking of a different subject when the craving begins which is the key.
In order to stop smoking, strong will is all that can help you and a lot of food taken during the day. When you smoked a long time and you decide to stop, thinking of a diffrent subject does not help, believe me. You feel a "nicotine hunger" which is a constant desire in your mouth to eat something or drink some.
It's not as easy as you think, thought smoking is enjoyable, it's very bad for you and the people around you.
Wrong. Very wrong.
The alcoholic is a man who cannot live without alcohol. He gives all of his money for drinking, he lives for drinking and he simply feels better when he is drunk. THIS is what an alcoholic is.
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Sorry for not posting anything these days as I have been banned but thats fixed now :). Keep them comming, now I see I got more knowledge about this fashion to drink. But as I choosed not to drink for many reasons I will keep it that way, but I am glad I can find some people that finds the pleasure in drinking with your mates I could imagine it but thats just how I am :).
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It is a waste of money to drink without getting drunk, it is the main purpose of alcohol. You don't need to celebrate to drink, you can simply drink with a friend. You can drink alone if theres nothing else in the fridge. Like most men, we all like a bit of competition so drinking contests is a part of all our genes.
I am not competitive. But the purpose of drinking alcohol is not getting drunk. The purpose of alcohol is basicly the same as of smoking or taking drugs, to remove inhibitions that might hold you back.
I smoke because I enjoy it just as much as an occasional jim beam and cola. It is hard to break the habit but its just getting into the habit of thinking of a different subject when the craving begins which is the key.
If its a wast of money to drink without getting drunk, why the hell do you want to pay for cola diluting the alcohol. Be a man and drink it pure, without ice or anything.
Definition of an alcoholic:
Someone who enjoys the feeling of being under the influence of alcohol, or simply enjoys the taste. You don't call people who drink coca cola everyday a coke-o-holic. Alcoholic is just as big as a problem as a person who eats mcdonalds everyday or like many of you, sit on the computer and stare into space for hours on end in an online gaming server.
That is the Western definition, as I already explained. In Russia you would not name such a person an alcoholic.
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Why do you drink?: Mostly just a because I want to party, or because I feel like it..
Why are you not drinking ( religion or having the same attitude like me) ? Read above?
What pleasure you find in drinking?:I feel a bit.. like everything doesn't matter you know, just that feeling of not giving a shit is great.
Are you drinking often ( Everyday, weekends or anything more ) ?:Mostly just in the weekends, but only if I celebrate something or if i'm with mates.
How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?: Usually around 5 euro's or so, my mum buys me beer so I don't have to buy that for myself ;)
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How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?: Usually around 5 euro's or so, my mum buys me beer so I don't have to buy that for myself ;)
See that's a lovely mom :)
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Why do you drink?: To celebrate something, and occasionally to fight some bacterias
Why are you not drinking ( religion or having the same attitude like me) ? If I am alone or nobody around me drinks, I will not drink.
What pleasure you find in drinking?:The food that goes with it, the company, having some fun.
Are you drinking often ( Everyday, weekends or anything more ) ?:Depends on the situation. Last 8 months I drank 1 bottle of beer (1,5%) and a glas of ouzo. Other times I can drink half a bottle of vodka (straight) with friends like once a week.
How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?: Depends on where I am and what I drink. Still have a good stock of wine and some other things. Eur 10 per month perhaps ?
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I never drank and I hope I won't, but I will still try to answer the questions(but not the "why you drink" questions and that have nothing to do with me.
Why do you drink?: To deaf your feelings, it's a way to show your feelings.
Why are you not drinking ( religion or having the same attitude like me) ? I'm not drinking cause' I think it's an idiotic handle. Perhaps when I was small, 5-8 I tried out my parents..just regular as child.
What pleasure you find in drinking?: None. I think it's tasty actually, the beer at least. I remember how it tasted like since when I was a child, I never got drunk...but it tastes good. Better than coke.
Are you drinking often ( Everyday, weekends or anything more ) ?: I'm drinking coke.
How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?: 0.
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Why do you drink?: Heh, to get drunk & have fun.
Why are you not drinking ( religion or having the same attitude like me) ? Actually, drinking is like a national sport in my country. :lol:
What pleasure you find in drinking?: Eh, it makes you feel relaxed.
Are you drinking often ( Everyday, weekends or anything more ) ?: Depends totally. Well, I usually drink when I have time & money. And doesn't matter if it's Saturday, or it's a exam next day, if you feel like you wanna have a beer or two, you just gotta get it.
How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?: Well, in summer about 50-60 euros in a month. During the schoolyear, about 10-20 euros in a month.
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Ethyl Alcohol is such a strange drug, especially when I compare it to cannabis and psychedelic drugs. If you ask me its the opposite of psychedelic drugs (mind-expanding) and just makes you act like a complete idiot, think you're a bad ass, and often leads to hurting others (drunk driving, fights etc.) I don't mind drinking on occasion but the only times I have been drunk were when I ran out of weed and was bored so. I'd rather chug a bottle of cough syrup than get drunk. (DXM makes you feel drunk, but the mindset and feelings are way different) If you ask me weed feels so innocent compared to alcohol, and isn't as bad or addictive as it either. Drinking is also better if you had a little bit of weed too, because I love the warm fuzzy feeling that it gives you atleast, but nothing else. Anyways fuck alcohol, weed is better.
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Why do you drink?: To socialise with friends and girls, have fun, maybe celebrate a special occasion
Why are you not drinking ( religion or having the same attitude like me) ?
What pleasure you find in drinking?: Socialising with others while drinking
Are you drinking often ( Everyday, weekends or anything more ) ?: Some weekends, not all, one weekend a month probs.
How much money you use on a month when you intake alchohol in your body?: Steal mates beers haha, or about £6 if that.
Question: When did anyone first taste alchohol?
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Question: When did anyone first taste alchohol?
I was about ten when I sipped a wine glass at a party thinking it was juice. nasty shite man D:
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I was about ten when I sipped a wine glass at a party thinking it was juice. nasty shite man D:
It's worst to get a glass of rakia (very strong alcohol, bulgarian one) thinking it's water, has the same color... :D
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Question: When did anyone first taste alchohol?
Pre-school age, so maybe when I was 3,4 or 5 years old.
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I was about ten when I sipped a wine glass at a party thinking it was juice. nasty shite man D:
Hah ! i beat you ! My first sip was about some 4 or 5 years old. Mixed úþüÿþт - (dk how it will be in english, type it in google and see the pics of it =P ) with wine, damned that was some crappy taste :lol: as i remember
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I was about ten when I sipped a wine glass at a party thinking it was juice. nasty shite man D:
Same on me, but i sipped vodka with juice... :D
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I think I was like 5 or 6, when my dad made a drink with Coke and Vodka..I thought its normal coke and then...BAM!
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A guide, how you shouldn't drink.
[yt=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD_WPcSGHgs[/yt]
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Nothing like a cold beer while enjoying some(idk the name in english) and some snails. In an "esplanade" at the beach with some friends.
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/160/caracoisnr4.jpg)
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Snails? *shivers*