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Title: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Jubin on March 10, 2009, 02:18:38 pm
A little film to educate those people, who think that smoking is fun. This movie is mostly about cigarette, but still. (17 min long)
http://www.kuukulgur.ee/suitsufilm/en.html (http://www.kuukulgur.ee/suitsufilm/en.html)
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: cDa on March 10, 2009, 02:23:00 pm
Well i used to work in a hospital, used to smoke before and during that time, when i saw my first Tracheotomy, i quited... i suggest for people who dont know what that is, google it, u wont smoke again..
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Samaron on March 10, 2009, 02:26:32 pm
close this terror topic please, discussion allert !
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 10, 2009, 03:38:01 pm
well, i watched the video and i all i got to say is, what the fuck? by showing people being torn apart and showing what it does to that part of the body is just fucked up. I see what they're trying to do and it won't work -.-. They completely over exaggerate everything! Just let people be, more than 1/4 of the population ADMIT to smoking, so there's probably more, I hate how people try and convince others not to smoke, not like we make videos promoting smoking (because it's banned, here at least) all of these videos on the adverts and everything make it seem much worse than it actually is, besides, these adverts make children MORE likely to smoke, as they like to rebel and show they're "cool" or "bad". If people want to smoke, let them be and stop bugging them about it, if they wanna quit they will :P
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Oliver on March 10, 2009, 04:10:06 pm
My grandma's a smoker and my uncle died of lung cancer. My granny's been smoking for 50 years and she's alive.
I guess it's when you start smoking and how often you smoke.
One cigarette a week isn't that bad.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 10, 2009, 04:33:22 pm
My grandma's a smoker and my uncle died of lung cancer. My granny's been smoking for 50 years and she's alive.
I guess it's when you start smoking and how often you smoke.
One cigarette a week isn't that bad.

my nan's 69 and she's been smoking since she was 17, so it's been 52 years, she's still going, still shouts her head off and fights me haha :P
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: The_Wolf on March 10, 2009, 04:45:11 pm
Don't smoke, don't drink, what are you people, grandparents?
Yeah, you are giving away your money and poisoning yourself... but I personally like it.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: tiderman on March 10, 2009, 07:58:00 pm
Don't smoke, don't drink, what are you people, grandparents?
No, maybe we are just concerned about other peoples health and wellbeing.. And it's just advices, anyways.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Miami on March 10, 2009, 08:17:39 pm
Okay, Im gonna say one thing.. and this also goes for drugs.

Why do people smoke?
Whats the point? I came to final conclusion; 'to look cool'.

Think about it, there is no actual point in smoking.. people just do it to fit in with a crowd/look cool/look grown up etc etc

This is why most smokers started at adolescence as this is the stage when your brain is developing and changing very fast, you get that feeling that you 'dont fit in' and everyone is 'out to get you' etc..

There arnt forced to smoke, they dont have to but well there we go  :neutral:


Miami
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 10, 2009, 08:25:09 pm
Okay, Im gonna say one thing.. and this also goes for drugs.

Why do people smoke?
Whats the point? I came to final conclusion; 'to look cool'.

Think about it, there is no actual point in smoking.. people just do it to fit in with a crowd/look cool/look grown up etc etc

This is why most smokers started at adolescence as this is the stage when your brain is developing and changing very fast, you get that feeling that you 'dont fit in' and everyone is 'out to get you' etc..

There arnt forced to smoke, they dont have to but well there we go  :neutral:


Miami

you chat shit, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Caltson on March 10, 2009, 08:27:39 pm
you chat shit, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Actually Miami points out the correct amount of people around 80%..

The others start smoking for another reason, wich i can't talk about.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Alsatian on March 10, 2009, 08:28:45 pm
My mum and dad smoke, I get really concerned about their health, but, now they smoke E-Cigarettes (Electronic) and they only contain a small ammount of nicotine, they save money, and it doesn't harm them  :)
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 10, 2009, 08:31:14 pm
Actually Miami points out the correct amount of people around 80%..

The others start smoking for another reason, wich i can't talk about.

you also chat shit, where did you get the 80% from? did you ask loads of people then work it out? hmm i very much doubt so, come back when you've based what you're saying on something other than a random guess.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Caltson on March 10, 2009, 08:35:54 pm
you also chat shit, where did you get the 80% from? did you ask loads of people then work it out? hmm i very much doubt so, come back when you've based what you're saying on something other than a random guess.

Believe me, Only 9 people at my school are not smokers... The most of 'em just get along with the so called 'cool" kids..

Maybe i'm guessing but at least i know what it comes to at my school, disregarding the situation at your country.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: cumbia_chorra on March 10, 2009, 08:37:25 pm
I dont smoke for one reason: tennis, yea i really want to be good on that, and smoking wont help me. I sometimes drink on parties, but not tooo much. My dad and mum smoke, my grandad too, but i will not continue the legacy  :evil:
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Altair_Carter on March 10, 2009, 08:54:00 pm
you also chat shit, where did you get the 80% from? did you ask loads of people then work it out? hmm i very much doubt so, come back when you've based what you're saying on something other than a random guess.
"Talk shit" "Chat shit" Listen, fellow, live in the present time. Look around you and ask, why do people smoke? Because to get more healthy? Or what?

It's a stated fact by very big amount of psychologists, that people start smoking at the teenager age to "Look cool before others". Don't belive me? Google "REason of smoking" and find the answer.

And drop this "You chat shit". If you don't have anything to say, then please do not post such stupidity. It just shows how smart are you.

Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking#Popularization), read abit in "Psychology" thread. Maybe will find something usefull.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: tiderman on March 10, 2009, 08:54:33 pm
close this terror topic please, discussion allert !
I thought forums were for discussions, though?



I simply dont smoke because I don't want to smell like shit and get cancer (no offence to hardcore cigarette smokers), but that's just me.
My parents were smokers back in the day and I'm very glad they quit before they had me.

 Theres is about three people in my class (of sixty) that smoke cigarettes, thats pretty good stats I guess.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 10, 2009, 09:03:57 pm
"Talk shit" "Chat shit" Listen, fellow, live in the present time. Look around you and ask, why do people smoke? Because to get more healthy? Or what?

It's a stated fact by very big amount of psychologists, that people start smoking at the teenager age to "Look cool before others". Don't belive me? Google "REason of smoking" and find the answer.

And drop this "You chat shit". If you don't have anything to say, then please do not post such stupidity. It just shows how smart are you.

Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking#Popularization), read abit in "Psychology" thread. Maybe will find something usefull.

well clearly i do have something to say, I'm giving my reason on why i think they're wrong, i didn't say "to look cool" wasn't a reason, i was saying his "80%" was made up, thus "chatting shit". Shows how smart you are eh? yeah some people smoke to look cool, so what? let them be....they're idiots anyways and they deserved to be harmed by smoking for being such idiots. Other people on the other hand can smoke if they want, could be stress related issues or anything else, so stop being idiots and telling people not to smoke -.- just piss off and let them do what they want, not like it's your choice at all.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Miami on March 10, 2009, 09:06:35 pm
you chat shit, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Hello. Im guessing your a smoker? Yes, boom, now tell me exactly why you smoke.  :)
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 10, 2009, 09:09:31 pm
Hello. Im guessing your a smoker? Yes, boom, now tell me exactly why you smoke.  :)

I smoke because i live a stressful life, simple, it helps me relax and stops me from switching as easy. Not that it's really any of your business, not like i go "oh why don't you smoke?". I haven't once said smoking is good for you....I'm not disagreeing, all I'm saying is let people smoke if they want, and don't talk about something you have had no experience with what so ever.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: The_Wolf on March 10, 2009, 10:49:07 pm
I smoke because I like it . . . ?
Only 14 or less aged kids smoke to look "cool". I started smoking when I was sixteen, having in mind that I asked permission from my dad to smoke infront of him and my mother, so they would not hear from people across the street "hey, your son smokes in the back alley, but don't tell him I told you".

Yes, I smoke a box of cigaretts (19) for 5 days, I smoke only 3-4 cigaretts a day, which is a very small ammount, but I still enjoy it and it's a good feeling.
There is also a fact, while smoking, you are refreshing your brain, as smoking gives you a simulation that you gain energy, but it is fake. So there ARE good points of smoking, tho they are far less than the bad ones...
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: PMP on March 10, 2009, 11:04:24 pm
I don't smoke but I have nothing against smokers except that the smell gets on your clothes.

Also smoking is expensive and that is one of the main reasons not to. Some people I know smoke a pack a day.
I don't mind lending money to people as long as it isn't for stuff like cigars, weed, or stuff like that.
Like people say, no money no addiction.

Some smokers are addicted to nicotine, some are addicted to having stuff in their mouth, which one are you?
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Pandalink on March 10, 2009, 11:50:41 pm
To be honest, I never really see smokers that much because its generally agreed in my year at least that smoking is stupid, and all that stuff.
Anyone who does, just does and nobody really does anything about it.

As long as they stay away from me when they're smoking, and they don't make a big point of it, I don't see the issue in them killing themselves, given that it is their choice to do so.

I cannot be around a smoker in any enclosed space for any period of time, given that I completely lose my ability to breath in any density of smoke and start choking like I just swallowed my tongue or something.
As I said, if they stay away from me, I've no issue.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Bianconeri on March 10, 2009, 11:57:00 pm
im very against smoking, its bad for ya and it stinks as hell.
also lots of smokers arent social,
when im with another big group waiting for the bus,
some stinking smokers just steps into it and starts to stink between us,

luckily smoking isnt allowed at public places, but nobody does that sadly enough.

why should you smoke? it got nothing good.
and as said above smoking is only to make you look cool,
all those smokers think its cool to smoke, well its not, its stupid.
you lose all your money on it, you cant easily stop, you get badly addicted to it,
just to look cool? bad choice

there is nothing smart on smoking, smart ppl dont smoke!
they know its not good for anything
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Wayne on March 11, 2009, 12:31:13 am
I used to smoke three years...
13-16
Yeah, smoking sucks when you realize cigar is eating your brains up.
that's why i have one year without touching a cigar...
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Hircine on March 11, 2009, 04:15:47 am
Smoking really is pointless, I don't even smoke tobacco alot, its been a long time since I've smoked tobacco, like a month, I never really did it enough to get really addicted. Chew is nice if you're in school helps you relax and concentrate, and I love the taste of that. The only good things about it is that it calms your nerves and relaxes you, and the taste of some products are very nice, like black and mild wines. The only time I really like smoking is if I'm high and chilling or just bored walking around. But please, there's a way better (Cannabis) and healthier thing to smoke (vaporizing/eating no health issues at all), but sadly its illegal in most parts and all that jive.

And damn Wayne are you retarded, nicotine don't eat your brain cells up, it can cause cancer and some other issues, but nothing like that. Please check your facts if you're gonna say shit. And cigars? Cigars are not meant to be inhaled, just casually puffed, enjoying these time to time isn't a bad thing. Moderation is fine, its heavy use that causes health problems.



 :cool: :weed:

Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: cumbia_chorra on March 11, 2009, 04:18:24 am
Why dont you guys just play PS2/3 to relax  :neutral:.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Squeak on March 11, 2009, 05:03:24 am
Meh, smoke if you wanna, just stay away from me. It smells nasty and when I breathe it in it makes me feel short of breath. Smoking is fine with me, as long as people obey the rules and don't smoke in public places (Restaurants, clubs, schools, malls, etc) or smoke in the designated smoking area.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: rJCaiG on March 11, 2009, 06:43:19 am
smokers are jokers..find another way to relive your stress..find another way to be cool..smoking is disgusting..
i won't say any more; last time i did i had some rather unpleasent posts directed at me..
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Oliver on March 11, 2009, 06:46:33 am
The sad thing is that 70% of my classmates are smokers. 14-15 year olds. That's just sad, honestly.
The teachers don't do Jack Schitt, though some pupils smell hideously.

I've smoked 2 cigarettes in my entire life and I'm not planning on doing that again.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: moneris0 on March 11, 2009, 07:14:23 am
I smoke... not to be cool, because it's a kind of family trait that I have.. I wasnt forced to smoke but I tried it...

I took a puff and I got so dizzy I almost fell over :S and I was on the couch when my dad came home and he asked what was wrong.. "im dizzy" he just laughed and carried on.. w/e

year and a half later.. i have a little addiction.. not that bad but I do realize its bad for u.

not really a waste of money.. I smoke a pack a week.. so on blah blah

everybody in my family is a smoker, I am kinda young because im supposed to get my first pack when im 17.. im turning 16 in april.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Watti on March 11, 2009, 07:23:42 am
i spent 2 months on a ship, you have alot of people around you smoking... and its one of those things that you catch onto
but i smoked before that. i used to smoke at school... like not around the corner.. i used to smoke with others or by myself, i got introuble a few times. then i got a job. and they have like a smokers bay lol

25 Pack a day... (its got 25 Smokes in it (we call it a 25 Pack)

i have one just before i leave home, one at morning tea, one at lunch, one after i get home, and one at night (unless i go Racing or drags or take my mums BT50 out then i got one in my mouth all the time)
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 11, 2009, 09:34:50 am
I smoke because I like it . . . ?
Only 14 or less aged kids smoke to look "cool". I started smoking when I was sixteen, having in mind that I asked permission from my dad to smoke infront of him and my mother, so they would not hear from people across the street "hey, your son smokes in the back alley, but don't tell him I told you".

Yes, I smoke a box of cigaretts (19) for 5 days, I smoke only 3-4 cigaretts a day, which is a very small ammount, but I still enjoy it and it's a good feeling.
There is also a fact, while smoking, you are refreshing your brain, as smoking gives you a simulation that you gain energy, but it is fake. So there ARE good points of smoking, tho they are far less than the bad ones...

this guy knows what he is talking about. I also asked permission infront of my guardian. I tend not to smoke in front of people much as some people don't like it and i respect that, I usually smoke with just a few other friends who smoke.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: The_Wolf on March 11, 2009, 09:50:47 am
smokers are jokers..find another way to relive your stress..find another way to be cool..smoking is disgusting..
i won't say any more; last time i did i had some rather unpleasent posts directed at me..
Wanking is disgusting also, but a lot of men (and especially boys) are doing it. Now I know nobody would admit here, but there's a lot of peps who I know like to mastrubate. I am disgusted from them aswell, but I don't keep a distance from them or something, that's stupid.

Find another way to be cool or relieve your stress? I am not being cool and I am not relieving my stress either. I am a joker, right? Well, very good.
Let me tell you something about our country's parliament:

President - smoker.
Chief of police - smoker.
Minister in department of SPORTS - smoker.
Minister in department of education - smoker.
Minister in department of judge - smoker.
Prime minister - smoker.
Mayor of my city - smoker.
Half of the Bulgarian deputies - smokers.

You think all the people stated above are jokers? I don't think so... they are serious progressed men, who are smoking just because they like it...
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 11, 2009, 11:00:39 am
Wanking is disgusting also, but a lot of men (and especially boys) are doing it. Now I know nobody would admit here, but there's a lot of peps who I know like to mastrubate. I am disgusted from them aswell, but I don't keep a distance from them or something, that's stupid.

Find another way to be cool or relieve your stress? I am not being cool and I am not relieving my stress either. I am a joker, right? Well, very good.
Let me tell you something about our country's parliament:

President - smoker.
Chief of police - smoker.
Minister in department of SPORTS - smoker.
Minister in department of education - smoker.
Minister in department of judge - smoker.
Prime minister - smoker.
Mayor of my city - smoker.
Half of the Bulgarian deputies - smokers.

You think all the people stated above are jokers? I don't think so... they are serious progressed men, who are smoking just because they like it...

brap brap! represent! haha, it's because Giacjr is from Australia, the adverts there are naaasty, every Australian I've come across hated smoking.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: rJCaiG on March 11, 2009, 11:42:08 am
the ad's here really are nasty :/
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Shifter on March 11, 2009, 12:09:51 pm
To all you people upping the anti about smoking; how many of you drink regularly?
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Carbon on March 11, 2009, 12:13:52 pm
I drink, i smoke, making Rock N' Roll and shaking around with girls, and thats the life..
its already short so...if you gonna live , then live like this way, after your death friends remember you also :)
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: rJCaiG on March 11, 2009, 12:29:14 pm
I suppose so carbon..but smoking and drinking will only shorten your life......
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Omri on March 11, 2009, 01:19:48 pm
I suppose so carbon..but smoking and drinking will only shorten your life......

And may I ask, what's life ?
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: DHR.Mike on March 11, 2009, 01:53:43 pm
i am a smoker and this vdeo got nothing to do with smoking :P its just about some sick man who hates smokers who smokes himself  :rofl:
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Caltson on March 11, 2009, 02:07:43 pm
And may I ask, what's life ?
You live the way you want to.. For some people smoking and drinking ain't life, as carbon said..
Also about the girls, Most of us would, Some of us wont.

You live your life as you like, That's why people are different in first place..
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: tiderman on March 11, 2009, 04:37:53 pm
And may I ask, what's life ?
Your lifetime here on earth. From the day which you were born till the day you die a horrible death.
That's the definition of what Giac ment I think..
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Abraham on March 11, 2009, 04:54:04 pm
Lol... People who smoke knows it's bad... it does say "smoking kills" on every cigarette pack, no?
No need to remind us :)

Btw, sitting infront of your computer is bad for your health aswell... hush hush hush...
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 11, 2009, 05:47:09 pm
Lol... People who smoke knows it's bad... it does say "smoking kills" on every cigarette pack, no?
No need to remind us :)

Btw, sitting infront of your computer is bad for your health aswell... hush hush hush...

brap brap! Abraham representing all those smokers out there.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Caltson on March 11, 2009, 05:54:55 pm
Everyone has his own 'Addiction"..

Some smoke, Others drink, are addicted to argonath, addicted to boobs, Sports... And so on.. And as you can see here, everyone will defend his hobby, addiction or whatever he calls it.. That's how humans are and never will change.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on March 11, 2009, 06:05:39 pm
i used to smoke much marlboro on my 12th... now i only smoke like once in 2/3 weeks.. but even if i stop..
From when i born my parents smoke... my longs are already pretty much... BAD
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Niall on March 11, 2009, 06:19:45 pm
I don't think you can sum up why smokers start by saying it's to act cool.

Some people plain enjoy it, but i think the main reason why people smoke is because it is a social activity at times. Some people also might do it because they have no friends and want to fit in. Some people do it because they are anxious about what it's like to smoke. Some people might do it to give them something to do on their breaks. etc.. etc...

My point is that theres a range of reasons why people start, not just to 'act cool'.

I don't smoke personally, mainly because i have bad asthma.

  
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: tiderman on March 11, 2009, 07:14:26 pm
Some people plain enjoy it, but i think the main reason why people smoke is because it is a social activity at times.
Well, where I come from we go to the movies, sit down and talk, play pool etc. without having the risk of getting cancer..
But I guess that just makes smoking a bit more "exciting" than other social activities lol

Anyways you guys, I'll fuck off now and let you continue your day like before.  :lol:
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Abraham on March 11, 2009, 07:16:46 pm
without having the risk of getting cancer..
I wouldn't say that for sure, perhaps if you sit too much at the movies you will get ass cancer? :)
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 11, 2009, 07:55:29 pm
I wouldn't say that for sure, perhaps if you sit too much at the movies you will get ass cancer? :)

i think to correct term would be anal cancer.

http://www.medicinenet.com/anal_cancer/article.htm
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Wayne on March 11, 2009, 08:15:23 pm
i used to smoke much marlboro on my 12th...
Marlboro sucks, I prefer L.A Cherry.
But that does not matter,
I started smoking with my friends, it was like a... bad/good experience..
after some months.. i was having some problems, then i started to buy some and smoke away...
I stopped smoking, it was affecting me.. so i dropped my last cigar on sewers.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on March 12, 2009, 12:37:21 pm
Marlboro sucks, I prefer L.A Cherry.
But that does not matter,
I started smoking with my friends, it was like a... bad/good experience..
after some months.. i was having some problems, then i started to buy some and smoke away...
I stopped smoking, it was affecting me.. so i dropped my last cigar on sewers.

well yeh the point was. we regrouped at the back of our school. and we all got some cigarettes.
and that on my 12th. fkin crazy, i cant control myself now tho
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: PMP on March 12, 2009, 09:00:32 pm
Wanking is disgusting also, but a lot of men (and especially boys) are doing it. Now I know nobody would admit here, but there's a lot of peps who I know like to mastrubate. I am disgusted from them aswell, but I don't keep a distance from them or something, that's stupid.

Find another way to be cool or relieve your stress? I am not being cool and I am not relieving my stress either. I am a joker, right? Well, very good.
Let me tell you something about our country's parliament:

President - smoker.
Chief of police - smoker.
Minister in department of SPORTS - smoker.
Minister in department of education - smoker.
Minister in department of judge - smoker.
Prime minister - smoker.
Mayor of my city - smoker.
Half of the Bulgarian deputies - smokers.

You think all the people stated above are jokers? I don't think so... they are serious progressed men, who are smoking just because they like it...
My country prime minister does jogging every morning. He doesn't smoke.
(http://www.governo.gov.pt/NR/rdonlyres/61955A2C-4EB3-44EF-8E92-872CC822AF14/0/20070917A.jpg)(http://aspirinab.com/ficheiros/socrates-maratona-lisboa.jpg)
Look at him jogging during his visit to the US.........And him after finishing a race, surrounded by media and his staff.

(http://www.portugal.gov.pt/NR/rdonlyres/9D77D235-F498-496B-BE1F-22AAC1A5AFDE/0/20051109A.jpg)
And here is he at the parliament talking about all the shit he does wrong. What an idiot.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 12, 2009, 10:20:39 pm
hahahaha at the people next to him in the bottom photo, look bare haps. The guy on the left is like the angel on his shoulder, the one on the right is the devil.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Seskom on March 12, 2009, 11:28:12 pm
I used to smoke, i stole siggarets behind my dad like from first grade.I was smoking cause i felt relaxed and i smoked till fifth grade. My dad stopped buying these big blocks of smokes and i had no cash. I started smoking again at end of 6th grade and smoked whole summer till it became winter, outside got cold cash ran out and i got sick. I spent long time at home and my mom was here so i had no way to smoke so finally i almost quited smoking, I mean i still smoke when i drink alcohol it feels good then.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on March 13, 2009, 12:33:52 am
Why are you trying to stop people from smoking? This has been stated before but let me remind you, it is their business, let them do what they want. If they want to smoke and barely go down a flight of stairs without coughing up a lung then let them. Or for t hose smokers who arent showing any signs of unhealthy lungs, let them be as well. If someone wants to start smoking, show them the facts and if they take it into heart, and they still deicde to do it, let them be. Thier stupidity will kill them. Smoking has a powerful addiction and I doubt any people from a virtual community forum can break the addiction. Smokers can smoke all they want, as long as they stay the hell away from me while doing it. I dont hate smokers but I hate when they do it infront of me. 2nd hand smoke sucks for a few reasons. It has horrible smell and it can also f*cked up your lungs..
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Merc on March 13, 2009, 12:48:07 am
I personally don't smoke, but people buying Cigarettes helps the economy... especially in these hard recesssion times.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on March 13, 2009, 12:49:34 am
Especially (in the US atleast) the heavy taxes on it.....
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Merc on March 13, 2009, 12:54:07 am
Exactly, gotta start thinking outside the box.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 13, 2009, 02:04:09 am
the tax here is huge, a cigarettes value is about 2p, yet a 10pack cost 3pound which means the value of one cigarette is 30p so the tax is like 15x the value of 1 cigarette
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: solidje on March 13, 2009, 02:16:19 am
I stopped smoking 9 days ago..
from 25 sigarets a day to 0  :conf:
It's hard.. but I feel way better  :D  :evil:
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: The_Wolf on March 13, 2009, 08:23:54 am
the tax here is huge, a cigarettes value is about 2p, yet a 10pack cost 3pound which means the value of one cigarette is 30p so the tax is like 15x the value of 1 cigarette
Whoa, it must be tough for you guys. . . a pack of 19 cigarettes costs like 1,30 euros here...
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 13, 2009, 01:48:17 pm
Whoa, it must be tough for you guys. . . a pack of 19 cigarettes costs like 1,30 euros here...

yeah, in other countries it's so cheap compared to here, although if you order it of websites you can get 200 for 28pound (shitty brand ciggys) which is 2.80 per 20 pack, but yours still work out cheaper...0_0
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Alsatian on March 13, 2009, 05:58:12 pm
the tax here is huge, a cigarettes value is about 2p, yet a 10pack cost 3pound which means the value of one cigarette is 30p so the tax is like 15x the value of 1 cigarette

This is one of the reasons my dad and mum HAD to quit.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on March 13, 2009, 07:14:23 pm
here it costs 4 euros for 1 small pack
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Pandalink on March 14, 2009, 02:34:01 am
The tax is high because cigarettes are a demerit good.
Its also an incentive to stop smoking, but the government knows that a lot of people are addicted so it raises the tax on them.

Raise the tax all they want I say, more money for the government. If people don't want to pay, they won't buy them. Simple as.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Samaron on March 16, 2009, 12:44:54 pm
Smoker maths

Smoking = Relaxation
People bitching about smoking = Stress for smokers

Relaxation+Stress = no relaxation = more smoking = more tax money  :D

The more the government bitches about smoking the more people are actualy gonna smoke do drugs drink alcohol etc etc etc etc.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stof on March 16, 2009, 01:43:54 pm
Yes, i am an addicted smoker at 15 sad but, its my choice nobody can tell me what to do. Sure there's health risks. I started because i got depressed, me failing school was mainly it and now i just have maybe 4 a day and i feel ok. Why should it be bad for someone wanting to feel ok?
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Samaron on March 16, 2009, 03:48:48 pm
because the world is trying to form everyone into one group of brainwashed zombies that belive everything they see on the little light box and smoking doesnt support the zombie stuff so everything that sets people apart from eachother should die and burn in the firey pits so the world elite can rule over everyone without any resistance and so that everyone belives all the crap they tell you  :D and you know what ITS WORKING !!!
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Alsatian on March 16, 2009, 05:47:46 pm
because the world is trying to form everyone into one group of brainwashed zombies that belive everything they see on the little light box and smoking doesnt support the zombie stuff so everything that sets people apart from eachother should die and burn in the firey pits so the world elite can rule over everyone without any resistance and so that everyone belives all the crap they tell you  :D and you know what ITS WORKING !!!

Yeeeeeeh....  :conf:

My mates sometimes try and offer me a quick cig, I turn it down, I have no problem with them smoking, or smokers at all, its their choice, they no the risks, health, money... And its my choice not to smoke, for my own reasons..
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: The_Wolf on March 16, 2009, 07:18:37 pm
Smoker maths

Smoking = Relaxation
People bad guying about smoking = Stress for smokers

Relaxation+Stress = no relaxation = more smoking = more tax money  :D

The more the government bad guyes about smoking the more people are actualy gonna smoke do drugs drink alcohol etc etc etc etc.
The world would be already over if it was THAT easy to manipulate people. People can bad guy about smoking as much as they want, I personaly don't give a damn about it, it does not concirn me a bit even.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Devin on March 16, 2009, 07:54:40 pm
its pretty easy to manipulate a smoker, like i used to smoke, now stopped, but when im tired or pissed off i smoke without thinking, someone tried to mess with me and i nearly hit him with a broken glass bottle but a friend stopped me,, after a smoke i was good, but later i hit that guy stil...   :rules:
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: The_Wolf on March 16, 2009, 08:19:44 pm
its pretty easy to manipulate a smoker, ...
Please, speak for yourself only. I am quite sure that smoking has nothing to do with the ability to avoid being manipulated or does not harm in any way your mental process.
You can be manipulated when you are drunk, but not when you are a smoker, it has nothing to do with it...  :neutral:
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Devin on March 16, 2009, 08:27:56 pm
Please, speak for yourself only. I am quite sure that smoking has nothing to do with the ability to avoid being manipulated or does not harm in any way your mental process.
You can be manipulated when you are drunk, but not when you are a smoker, it has nothing to do with it...  :neutral:

believe me, if youre addicted enough, you can be manipulated sooo easily.. its so simple if someone is craving and they are a hectic addict  :razz:
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: The_Wolf on March 16, 2009, 08:34:31 pm
believe me, if youre addicted enough, you can be manipulated sooo easily.. its so simple if someone is craving and they are a hectic addict  :razz:
It is easy if you are addicted to heroin or cocain, but cigaretts are just ... harmless to your mental process. It does not in any way affect your brains, so if you are a smart grown up man, you won't be manipulated easy...
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Devin on March 16, 2009, 09:08:54 pm
It is easy if you are addicted to heroin or cocain, but cigaretts are just ... harmless to your mental process. It does not in any way affect your brains, so if you are a smart grown up man, you won't be manipulated easy...

lol im not saying im manipulated easy, some people i know are... really easily... its so funny...  :lol:
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Samaron on March 17, 2009, 11:29:18 am
believe me, if youre addicted enough, you can be manipulated sooo easily.. its so simple if someone is craving and they are a hectic addict  :razz:

Your so full of bullshit its disturbing.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Byako on March 17, 2009, 11:36:15 am
lol thats a lot of bulls**t men.

you can drink but u cant smoke, that will make ur lif shorted , and most of u know that dudes.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Omri on March 17, 2009, 11:52:32 am
Hello
Here is mine opinion about smoking, I do not hate people that smoke or have ANYTHING against them, its thier choice if they want to shorten thier life and with that nobody should try tell them anything else than they want to hear by themself. I'm a smoker and have been smoking for 6 years, and I am not proud of it and to be quite honest I have tried to quit it but with no succes :(. Smoking is kinda, its "in" the trend these days and more youth people starts to smoke because they think its cool or just the social thing that comes with smoking.

Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: MarioRinarri on March 17, 2009, 12:41:09 pm
My grandma's a smoker and my uncle died of lung cancer. My granny's been smoking for 50 years and she's alive.
I guess it's when you start smoking and how often you smoke.
One cigarette a week isn't that bad.
If your grandma is used to smoking ONE cigarette per WEEK she isn't even a smoker...
I've been smoking for about sixteen years or more... No drugs, etcetera... Tried weed once, didn't like it.. Only cigarettes, sometimes cigars.. First I started doing it in school, showing off... That was the most retarded thing I did... And it affected in my life.. It was so easy to say "No, I don't want to" but instead of doing that, I tried it.. After two weeks, I didn't feel any pain while smoking... I started to like it.. Several months ago I used to smoke like.. fifty-sixty cigs / daily. Not so long ago I started coughing blood and got dragged to a hospital by a friend of mine.. They found lung cancer... Now I gotta visit hospital each 3 days for different therapies...

bla bla bla *insert a useless part of the "novella" here*

So, the morality is: kids, don't smoke... It's better to say "no" once..
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: Voodoo on March 17, 2009, 12:54:59 pm
I don't like smoking. But I tried it. I tried it, didn't liked it, and so I wouldn't needed to be dragged to it or something in the future.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stof on March 17, 2009, 01:32:49 pm
my advice to ppl is to stop tryin 2 make people stop smoking tis their decision and its their lives they gonna f**k up even though i smoke i know my risks but i have suffered depression, it helped me a lot i think.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 17, 2009, 03:31:08 pm
my advice to ppl is to stop tryin 2 make people stop smoking tis their decision and its their lives they gonna f**k up even though i smoke i know my risks but i have suffered depression, it helped me a lot i think.

lol, what ever you say mr smoker :)
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: tiderman on March 20, 2009, 03:40:29 pm
After two weeks, I didn't feel any pain while smoking... I started to like it.. Several months ago I used to smoke like.. fifty-sixty cigs / daily.
50-60 per day? Dude.
Title: Re: For all those smokers out there
Post by: stiffler2100 on March 20, 2009, 05:04:34 pm
50-60 per day? Dude.

my aunt used to smoke 60 a day, until the doctor told her she had 8 years to live, so the guy is probably telling the truth.
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