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Title: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: ~Legend~ on March 17, 2009, 11:47:41 pm
I just had an awesome idea.  :rofl: !!
Argonath RPG could have a huge  Argonath RPG Special Forces (ARSF) section!

This could involve ARPD (Argonath RPG Police Department),
ARS/ARST (Argonath RPG SWAT/Argonath RPG SWAT Team),
ARF/ARFBI (Argonath RPG FBI) and 
ARA/ARAF (Argonath RPG Army/ Argonath RPG Army Force).

Some of these already exist as ranks in ARPD, but we could make it more official.
I know that some people are already trying to establish 1 or 2 of these oragnizations in their own servers, but nothing official (like ARPD) has been formed.
I know that ARPD has been launched quite recently (established more recently) and will take time to fully settle before we can start operations for other such estbalishments.
This would be really awesome if we could form it.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: Chase on March 18, 2009, 12:15:59 am
Well if this shall be formed.. then it won't be fun and games. Special forces members would have to train A LOT to get real good.. like 3 times a week, so I don't know if anyone is up for such a challenge. And btw shouldn't this be in ideas section?
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: Wash on March 18, 2009, 12:18:48 am
huh... it's basically SWAT.. not a very awsome idea..

no, not huge, otherwise it's not special. SWAT is sufficient even though it has a few members it still is very good - It's not quantity, it's quality..
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: James_Alterlis on March 18, 2009, 12:44:06 am
Correct usage:

ARS is ok
ARST > ARSWAT only
ARF > ARFBI only
ARA is ok
ARAF = Argonath RPG Air Force not Army Force

Well, we already got a lot of special divisions, DEA, SATP, SWAT, FBI, Training, SABD, etc.
Why we establish Special Force for?
SWAT is special force
Army is special force
etc.

 ;)

 :cop:
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: Kitsune on March 18, 2009, 04:28:53 am
Is this idea meant for the whole ARPD or only for the SA:MP side?

By bringing all these groups together as special forces, how would that change how they operate? With regard to making the FBI and SWAT more official, they are already official and have their own forum/section, so why do we need to group them together? As for the army, the only armies that exist are not official and I'm not even sure if they're active, so what do you propose an army would do as an official group?

From my understanding of actual special forces and how that would be integrated into SA:MP, like Wash said, it's basically just SWAT.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: SugarD on March 18, 2009, 06:01:53 am
See the ARPD-version of this topic.

Army already exists. Argonath's Army is a RP group with Argonath's permission to use their name, and I'm pretty sure they aren't part of ARPD.

I would like to see some armed forces though, for every server. I don't mean DM groups, I mean official armed forces such as Air Force, Navy/Marines/SEAL's, Army, National Guard, etc. to protect the United States Of Argonath in the event of war, terrorist attacks, when large events happen they can provide protection, when there are disasters, they can respond...etc.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: Oliver on March 18, 2009, 09:07:35 am
Um... SWAT and FBI cannot work together, sad but true, as we all have different trainings for different situations. Same goes with normal ARPD officers.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: Chase on March 18, 2009, 08:08:09 pm
Um... SWAT and FBI cannot work together, sad but true, as we all have different trainings for different situations. Same goes with normal ARPD officers.

Lol, you live under a rock Oliver.. We currently are working on improving this.. We want to train together but Jaaskaa and CBF aren't online at the same time much. Jaaskaa may be working with CBF already - IDK.

About armies.. I don't see the purpose of them honestly. Wars? What wars? You can't like invade other servers on SAMP. Terrorist attacks? Usually terrorist attacks in Argo are counted as DM. Even if it wasn't.. it would rely on SWAT and FBI tactical and investigative teams. The Army IRL never goes to war on their own countrie's soil unless its getting attacked.

The only army-like group I'd think would have a point is an Air Force, to shoot down airborne suspects.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: ~Legend~ on March 18, 2009, 09:16:22 pm
No, I don't just mean SA-MP, this applies to the whole of AR.
Special operations being SWAT, I know they are usually reffered to as the special forces division but I didn't mean it in that sense.
This would be cool because it adds to the roleplay and you can have many more jobs and things to do. It won't be a burden as you aren't forced to join and the whole point of a game is for it to be enjoyable! 
To sum up my point, it would be amazing to have a huge Untied States Of Argoanth Protection Team and my ideas are just the sub divisions that could go within it.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: SugarD on March 19, 2009, 03:56:31 am
Once again, we aren't suggesting the Army for DM purposes or attacks on other servers. What they could do for RP'ing is train in aiming, flying military aircraft, swimming, driving tanks, driving boats, etc. and once in a while when big events roll around, they could be protection. They could also assist another group that I added to the idea of the National Guard for when there are disasters, such as way back when on MTA:VC when Snake, myself, and a few others pretended there was a hurricane in Vice City that led to a mass flooding where we had to rescue users and take them to high up places in Fort Baxter. It was alot of fun.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: Oliver on March 19, 2009, 11:28:46 am
Lol, you live under a rock Oliver..

It may be true, but it's the coziest rock ever.
(http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/data/wximagenew/g/GumpAir/12.jpg)
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: ~Legend~ on March 19, 2009, 09:28:40 pm
Yes, we can't have a badly established army, just in case of DM risks (ruins our servers' aim). I like the idea of a National Guard. Your "training" ideas are also quite good, although I think that practice in aiming and swimming may not be as resultant.

Plus, loving your "5 Star" villa under the sun, Oliver..............more like under a rock actually!
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: SugarD on March 20, 2009, 03:43:42 am
Well National Guard is a division of the Army, just as the Marines and SEAL's are divisions of the Navy.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: ~Legend~ on March 21, 2009, 11:56:04 pm
True, but if we may not need to have separate divisions inside the army, although it would be cool, we can just have a general army or a single bodied, National Guard. 
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: itsonlyaname on March 23, 2009, 04:25:58 pm
we have a army it just doesn't deal with ARPD and is not that active (the argonath army)
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: SugarD on March 24, 2009, 03:27:14 am
I already said that...and once again, that's not an official army, it's just a RP group with permission to use the Argonath name.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: CBFasi on March 24, 2009, 07:17:21 pm
I know that ARPD has been launched quite recently and will take time to fully settle before we can start operations for other such estbalishments.

That has to be the saddest things to see.

It shows straight away you have no idea how old ARPD actaully is...

I know for fact its OVER 2 years, which in terms of this server is not recent...

It also shows you have not looked around on the servers.
Maybe your commenting on just on one server branch of ARPD, but on Argonaths SAMP its definately not recent...

You joined in Febuary 2009 !!
ARPD oldest message = APRIL 2007, that I could find, maybe even older exists!!
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: SugarD on March 24, 2009, 07:35:17 pm
Older did exist, but not on the current form of the site.

CBFasi, someone else recently was saying ARPD was new, so I think that's where he got it from. I know what you mean though. It's by no means at all new...
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: ~Legend~ on March 24, 2009, 09:12:58 pm
That has to be the saddest things to see.
It shows straight away you have no idea how old ARPD actaully is...
I know for fact its OVER 2 years, which in terms of this server is not recent...
It also shows you have not looked around on the servers.
Maybe your commenting on just on one server branch of ARPD, but on Argonaths SAMP its definately not recent...
You joined in Febuary 2009 !!
ARPD oldest message = APRIL 2007, that I could find, maybe even older exists!!


???
By recent, I meant established. It was set up a while ago, I KNOW THAT!
But, it has been more established and advertised much more recently! Admit it, how many of your officers go on frequently?
Plus, ARPD hasn't yet actually been involved in some of the servers' scripts. It's still developing to be honest.

And you said "sad"! Why is it sad? Did it make you upset?  :cry:
Just to inform you, I have known the different multiplayer clients for a long time. I have also been aware of Argonath RPG for a long time. I just set up this account recently as I had been experiencing some problems with my server browser.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: Oliver on March 24, 2009, 11:00:17 pm
Admit it, how many of your officers go on frequently?

I know at least fifty.
I'll take sergeants, s. officers and officers

1. Thomas
2. Leon
3. Jonny
7. Janar
26. Ronn
??. ?
50. Profit!
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: ~Legend~ on March 25, 2009, 12:26:55 am
I know at least fifty.
I'll take sergeants, s. officers and officers

1. Thomas
2. Leon
3. Jonny
7. Janar
26. Ronn
??. ?
50. Profit!


I am not quite with you, Oliver?
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: SugarD on March 25, 2009, 02:33:28 am
Oliver=Herbert=Frank...he goes by many names.

I think Legend is aiming at the VC area of ARPD more, seeing as he plays just VC. In this case, he's actually correct for the most part.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: ~Legend~ on March 25, 2009, 08:33:41 pm
Well, not entirely VC, the whole department is still developing, with new updates due. 
It was established initially a while ago, but it still hasn't been united into a single body, areas are still being updated are reworked.
Also, thankyou very much Sugar, you are very reliable I must say!
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: SugarD on March 26, 2009, 05:49:04 pm
You're welcome lol...

That's very true Legend, things are not as unified as they should be, and there is still alot being updated/reworked. Honestly, since this is the United States Of Argonath, I think the FBI on ARPD personally should be united like IRL, and just have division offices in each city. That'd make more sense, and it wouldn't affect either FBI aside from the Directors and high ranks having to figure out how to compromise on some things.
Secondly, the site is horribly out of date. Good news on that, though: It's being updated sometime soon!
Lastly, VCPD, and especially more so the MTA:VC VCPD, are suffering greatly from the lack of ARPD support. The ranks are set up, the cops exist, but no one is ever there when you need it. Poor cops in MTA:VC run everything from stopping speeders up to bank robberies, 207's, and murder investigations. I know MTA:VC has it's limits, but there has to be something we can do to help them out...
Lastly, the police commands across each server very greatly. Although some are similar, such as /r and /msg r, they are still very confusing, and the lack of certain commands can make an officer's day end badly. I personally think the devs need to rally up together and find a way to unify certain parts of certain scripts so we can fix this issue.
Title: Re: Argonath RPG Special Forces
Post by: ~Legend~ on March 28, 2009, 02:41:27 pm
Very well put, Sugar.
We have a great set of servers, websites and programmes and now what we need to do is unify them. Make them more organised, more professional.
The results will be diminishing. 
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