Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Roger_Murtaugh on April 14, 2009, 05:56:48 pm
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The Last week, some gangs went to far... Gangs are supposed to RP. Argonath Stays a Role Play server. Some Gangs think that it's different for them, they think they don't need to RP. AS a gang it is very normal you shoot, most good gangs and mafia's Shoot and do it on a RP way, wich is good. Others, shoot everybody and everything that moves. I'm trully Sick of this kind of behaviour of those gangs. You can say, ''eddie go make a complaint at the e-mail''. I won't make an e-mail, but bring this problem onto the forums and wich has to be discussed. some exemples: I drive with a car, towtruck, and get DBed with an tec9, my wheels get popped, i lose control... I had nothing to do with the RP of the gang, and they come and shoot my car, without reason, this is STRAIGHT DM! exemple nr2: i'm on patrol as cop, suddenly a hole gang, comes shoot me... WOW guys, is this we RP on argonath? no it is not. I'm tired of this things, can't RP, or get shot by gangs... This has to end and action has to be taken!
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I know what you mean Eddie, I've complained about this many times... :mad:
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Are you talking about a gang in particular? No need to name the gang though, I just want to know if you are talking about random deathmatchers in gangsters skin.
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These gangs are out of control.
They prefer quantity over quality.
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yes some gangs go way to far b4 Gvardia does anything that might look like DM i say on cb is there i way you guys can think to go the extra mile to rp more and better juring example: a 207 or a code 30
we all know gvardia has them but gangs not mafia's like to recuit players that played 2 hours on argo...not going to say names
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Mafias do it too.
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Some gangs (I do not need to mention any names) in my experience as a cop, do DM police for no reason at all. I patrol as a normal and suddenly out of nowhere 2 cars with 4 passengers in each of them started shooting at me for god knows what reason! If it were rp'ed in a way such as they managed to stop my car and tried to kidnap me that's fine, but no, they just drove towards me and shot me to death. Seriously this kind of playing has to stop and I' am sick and tired of getting killed because of this. I strongly agree with Eddie in this case.
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yes some gangs go way to far b4 Gvardia does anything that might look like DM i say on cb is there i way you guys can think to go the extra mile to rp more and better juring example: a 207 or a code 30
we all know gvardia has them but gangs not mafia's like to recuit players that played 2 hours on argo...not going to say names
Gvardia is one of the "prime suspects".
When the godfather's away, the....... fail
Um... So.... Don't try to get the blame off Gvardia, k?
What I'm trying to say is that I have gotten DMed by Gvardia when I wasn't part of the roleplay.
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Ya, happen to me too
Few days ago
I was pulling over someone in "Mafia gang" (Not gonna tell name). After chase for a while, I sued him for evading. Then he start to drive around and enter their HQ, meanwhile some of them set a hit on me and the rest members in HQ starts to shoot at the PD car and "DM" at me. I have no choice, I exited car and start to run. I don't even have time to type /su.
I find cover and call radio backup. Then the rest of them starts to escape far far-away to the County Sides...
I don't even thing that "Mafia gang" would do these things...
Money hungry on sethit too much? ha...
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Happens yes, being a suspect is NOT an excuse to kill cops indeed. The thing is to escape them and as a last resort, kill...
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Ya, happen to me too
Few days ago
I was pulling over someone in "Mafia gang" (Not gonna tell name). After chase for a while, I sued him for evading. Then he start to drive around and enter their HQ, meanwhile some of them set a hit on me and the rest members in HQ starts to shoot at the PD car and "DM" at me. I have no choice, I exited car and start to run. I don't even have time to type /su.
I find cover and call radio backup. Then the rest of them starts to escape far far-away to the County Sides...
I don't even thing that "Mafia gang" would do these things...
Money hungry on sethit too much? ha...
It's more like protecting their member by shooting at cop, not dm
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It's more like protecting their member by shooting at cop, not dm
Protecting their members?
I was driving around chasing him around and inside HQ, nothing happen
Unless someone sethit, then they start to shoot
Happens yes, being a suspect is NOT an excuse to kill cops indeed. The thing is to escape them and as a last resort, kill...
Correct! But one of my friend said this: What suspect do then? Suspect have to kill cop, will u get arrested by cop and lose $600 than escape and lose just $100? He also said: I didn't DM, I protect myself and escape cop...
It's correct In Real Life, but well I explained him that u have to RP... well he don't come back on Argo again
Some ppl don't know what RP is, even told million times.
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If your chasing someone and they run back to their HQ to alert the others don't expect a warm welcome of course they'll take you out it's how Gangs work, protect each other at all times.
Happens yes, being a suspect is NOT an excuse to kill cops indeed. The thing is to escape them and as a last resort, kill...
Maybe for cops but a criminal with a M4 isn't going to keep running exspecially if he is with 3 Others they'll simply stop and gun you down.
Some gangs (I do not need to mention any names) in my experience as a cop, do DM police for no reason at all. I patrol as a normal and suddenly out of nowhere 2 cars with 4 passengers in each of them started shooting at me for god knows what reason! If it were rp'ed in a way such as they managed to stop my car and tried to kidnap me that's fine, but no, they just drove towards me and shot me to death. Seriously this kind of playing has to stop and I' am sick and tired of getting killed because of this. I strongly agree with Eddie in this case.
Try being a rival Gang member it's much worse, though i do this sometimes if the cop doesn't comply he'll be killed. (Never had complaints so far)
All you 24/7 Cops should join a Gang for a day and see how they work you'd be suprised and might not judge them badly as you do already. Talking about Gvardia yes am a Member and yes i know we have a few Rotten Apples but hey, they can be turned into Good one's just stop shitting on us all the time. We aren't trying to get the Blame of us yes we'r sorry for abusing the Medic heal (i wasen't there at the time) but i hope it don't happen again cause it's now affected the whole community. Just stop complaining about Gvardia we'r not the only one's...
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Just for peace of mind and curiousity.. Would you include Corleone in this 'Gang-DM' thing..?
From what I can gather Corleone seems to be the group that really gets a low low low amount of huge suspections, where there are like 5-10 of us all suspected killing loads of cops. We kinda tend to run rather then fight :razz:
Unless there's quite a few of us - Then we form like a base somewhere, where there is a way to escape.. :P
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I did not have any issue with Corleone especially...
And @ Rusty, I have to admit that you are not wrong, if you are ready for the battle, you fight. It's fine as long as the cops are the ones looking for you, and not you looking for them.
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I did not have any issue with Corleone especially...
And @ Rusty, I have to admit that you are not wrong, if you are ready for the battle, you fight. It's fine as long as the cops are the ones looking for you, and not you looking for them.
If a cop comes lonely and tries to kill one of us and he runs, yes chase will be given to catch him and teach him a lesson.
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If a cop comes lonely and tries to kill one of us and he runs, yes chase will be given to catch him and teach him a lesson.
And damn right too, in all honesty.
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i guess you mean only 2 gangs/mafias
Gvardia and Cems, both groups are just shooting everyone they see,
they cant just normally RP, they only talk with bullets
even if you are a suspect, thats not a reason to shoot down all cops,
if a cop isnt part of the RP/chase do not shoot him,
dont chase cops thats pure DM, suspects should run away to escape,
staying is also good, but turning running into chasing cops is bad and DM
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I have to say, it is mainly Gvardia I see DMing and not RPing.
Sorry guys.
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Why don't we just stop worrying about names and discuss on about how can the actions of these gangs be improved, so more RP comes in and becomes good for all sides? I say, they should use guns less and RP a torture or a body dump a bit more.
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I have to say, it is mainly Gvardia I see DMing and not RPing.
Sorry guys.
wow don't pin this shit on Gvardia we don't attack ppl without reason if some 1 attacked us the day b4 ofc we will get revenge when BOTH mafias have about the same about of members and they will know about it like arratus we make a rp shoot out with them
so don't say we DM some times yes we do do random attacks but in rp and planed out ways
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wow don't pin this shit on Gvardia we don't attack ppl without reason if some 1 attacked us the day b4 ofc we will get revenge when BOTH mafias have about the same about of members and they will know about it like arratus we make a rp shoot out with them
so don't say we DM some times yes we do do random attacks but in rp and planed out ways
Let me draw your attention to paragraph 2, line 4 of the rules : 'NO REVENGE KILLING'
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did i say the guy that died from the day b4 took part in it...NO i did not mike that person that died b4 stayed out of the attack and it not revenge it retaleation we go and attack the next day due to that what irl mafia's do or it could be a week down the road
now lets just drop this thing about you not liking Gvardia
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Let me draw your attention to paragraph 2, line 4 of the rules : 'NO REVENGE KILLING'
I don't think you understand criminal groups.
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This is like how it always is, cops are the best & the gangs are the worst.
Sure they do many misstake, but I'm sure that cops makes exactly the same in different kind of situations.
In some of your stories above, it sounds like "buhu, they killed me 'cause I chased him to his hood and tried to take him out" .. OF COURSE they do.
That's how gangs work, same as you police work. If a cop get shoot at, another cop comes to help him.. That's exactly how gangs/mafias work to.
I've seen it so many times when a cop just starting to shoot at a suspect when he's basically standing next to him & half surrendered.
After that, you'll be taken to LSPD & there you'll be jailed as fast as you walk in.. I mean, what's that? You think that's better roleplay?
I don't remember his name, but ONLY once when a cop catched me, he started a investigation. We had a hearing, & everything were great.
Sure, it took a while, but that was amazing in my opinion. That's how you all should be working.
I've basically see more cops who's more moneyhorny than the gangs, so stop bad guyin' about it, please.
Take care, Q.
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This is like how it always is, cops are the best & the gangs are the worst.
Sure they do many misstake, but I'm sure that cops makes exactly the same in different kind of situations.
In some of your stories above, it sounds like "buhu, they killed me 'cause I chased him to his hood and tried to take him out" .. OF COURSE they do.
That's how gangs work, same as you cops work. If a cop get shoot at, another cop comes to help him.. That's exactly how gangs/mafias work to.
I've seen it so many times when a cop just starting to shoot at a suspect when he's basically standing next to him & half surrendered.
After that, you'll be taken to LSPD & there you'll be jailed as fast as you walk in.. I mean, what's that? You think that's better roleplay?
I don't remember his name, but ONLY once when a cop catched me, he started a investigation. We had a hearing, & everything were great.
Sure, it took a while, but that was amazing in my opinion. That's how you all should be working.
I've basically see more cops who's more moneyhorny than the gangs, so stop bad guyin' about it, please.
Take care, Q.
You r giving an example about "freecop" situations...
We should remove freecop duty btw
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You r giving an example about "freecop" situations...
We should remove freecop duty btw
No, I'm not just talking about the freecops. Millions of times, ARPD does the same.
Then I can say, "You're giving an example over trialmembers & 'not so high members' "
A cop is a cop, whatever if he is a freecop or a APRD or higher.
Same as gangsters.
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i guess you mean only 2 gangs/mafias
Gvardia and Cems, both groups are just shooting everyone they see,
they cant just normally RP, they only talk with bullets
even if you are a suspect, thats not a reason to shoot down all cops,
if a cop isnt part of the RP/chase do not shoot him,
dont chase cops thats pure DM, suspects should run away to escape,
staying is also good, but turning running into chasing cops is bad and DM
Complete and utter BS.
Yes I will chase cops who come into our HQ then decide "Oh fuck 5 of them RUN!!" the cop WILL be chased and killed for his retarded effort.
Gvardia & Cems can't RP? Pfft.. BS Again you don't come to SF much do you? Thought not. As for Cems they'r a good gang they have turned around.
Like Panda said you 24/7 Cops don't understand Criminal Groups.
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Complete and utter BS.
Yes I will chase cops who come into our HQ then decide "Oh f**k 5 of them RUN!!" the cop WILL be chased and killed for his retarded effort.
Yet if you waltzed into SWAT HQ, and went 'Oh shit 10 of them RUNNN!' and WERE killed. You'd cry abuse.
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Yet if you waltzed into SWAT HQ, and went 'Oh shit 10 of them RUNNN!' and WERE killed. You'd cry abuse.
Why would i cry abuse? I walked into SWAT HQ carrying a firearm intending to hurt SWAT officers my own fault if i die but it's worth the effort to try take one of their lives.
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I dont mean to insult anyone, but I've seen cop hunters in Cems.
While randomly spectating new players, I would get the occasional report about a Cem or Cems-Associate person, then I would spectate them to see that they are suspect and saying "hey, let's go kill some cops", then they would sometimes kill any cops they come across while running, even if the cop wasnt sent to attack them. Some people are particularly close to being banned because of cop hunting.
Seriously.
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I do have all respect for gangs who kill cops in RP, like when a cop chases a suspect who is in a gang, the other gang members will shoot cops.
But i can't tolerate Gangs who shoot cops when they are both Not related to each other. Like Im driivng a towtruck and tow police cars, sudenly a gang come shoot my towtruck. this is bull****....