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Title: Flaming
Post by: CBFasi on May 13, 2009, 10:52:51 pm
WE CAN BAN YOU FOR IT...

DO NOT THINK HIDING IN PM OR CB WILL STOP ADMINS GETTING TO YOU

I saw two groups flaming and provoking, after warning, one group in cb WARNS its members not to flame etc, the other FLAMES.. I tempban the flamer for 30 min


WAKE UP GUYS

YOU KNOW THE RULES
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Melvin on May 13, 2009, 11:09:06 pm
I saw it happening, I agree that people should be punished harder for it. Its really annoying and lame  :neutral:
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Collin on May 13, 2009, 11:11:29 pm
regulars too..
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: cDa on May 13, 2009, 11:35:48 pm
Rules are rules, doesnt matter if you play 1 day or 3 years,rules are same for all,Flaming is not alowed as you know, and

Remember:

Sauron Sees All!
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Aksel on May 13, 2009, 11:38:11 pm
Is sauron In-game all the time ?
and are Sauron realy from antrartic ?
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Melvin on May 13, 2009, 11:42:39 pm
Omg, This is really sad,

Your iq is like a wallnut :P

Sauron is the eye in the sky!
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Aksel on May 13, 2009, 11:43:24 pm
whats a Wallnut ? 0_o

Joking :P
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Melvin on May 13, 2009, 11:45:36 pm
Rofl  :rofl:
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on May 13, 2009, 11:45:58 pm
I remember hearing that admins should go lighter on new players since they arent familiar with the rules, like regular players are.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Melvin on May 13, 2009, 11:49:01 pm
-_-

When you got something new, Do you just start it? :S


I think you would first read the manual.

New players should also first read the rules,

And its not new that flaming isent allowed. Every "normal" person knows that Flaming isent the right thing to do  :rules:
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Pandalink on May 13, 2009, 11:55:29 pm
When you got something new, Do you just start it? :S

Yes? :(

 :)
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Rory on May 13, 2009, 11:55:56 pm
I know my group was one of the flaming on CB, I try to calm them down or redirect their flaming/anger.

I apologize for their actions, most of us came over from another server that was very aggressive.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Marting_Riggs on May 14, 2009, 12:04:07 am
so is it a tempban or a permban coz it is not stated....

i think it is a tempban coz it will make more since but it don't hurt to ask
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Xeuq on May 14, 2009, 01:46:05 am
I have problems with flaming too : /
I try to act nice and not to flame.
But sometimes i get too much pissed off. Idk why i must flame in /p, maybe so everyone could see im angry.
Anyway, if i flame someone next time, tempban me.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Melvin on May 14, 2009, 11:26:36 am
Thats nice if you see your own mistakes,
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Mr. Goobii on May 14, 2009, 11:36:27 am
Yeah, And do you know what is more worse CBFasi?
That you and all other player argumentation it on the Public chat...

I hate this fucking Public chat because this days it very annoying
/setpublic off FTW!!
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Voodoo on May 14, 2009, 11:44:40 am
Yeah, And do you know what is more worse CBFasi?
That you and all other player argumentation it on the Public chat...

I hate this f**king Public chat because this days it very annoying
/setpublic off FTW!!

But new players need to ask questions like that. I hate this system. And people whine about poor RP...All they do is fucking chit-chat.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Melvin on May 14, 2009, 12:05:09 pm
Like you didnt chatted in public chat when you were new  :hit:
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Voodoo on May 14, 2009, 12:06:59 pm
No. I didn't.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Seskom on May 14, 2009, 01:59:31 pm
Rules are rules, doesnt matter if you play 1 day or 3 years,rules are same for all,Flaming is not alowed as you know, and

Remember:

Sauron Sees All!

Sorry but sauron has not been registred to server at all it was gandalf who registred that account  :conf:
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Xeuq on May 14, 2009, 02:13:00 pm
please, add command which allows us to disable /p or admins can disable it for everyone.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Marting_Riggs on May 14, 2009, 02:16:53 pm
public chat will not get disabled cause the admins may be busy so they hope that the regulars can help out the new players but if your chat is off then you can't help them



(i rember some 1 saying public chat won't get disabled)
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Zaila on May 14, 2009, 02:36:41 pm
I agree, don't disable public chat, but there is no need to have a flame war in /p. If you wanna discuss with eachother, go near each other so you can talk in local or take a unowned CB channel.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Rusty on May 14, 2009, 02:40:40 pm
Sorry but sauron has not been registred to server at all it was gandalf who registred that account  :conf:

He probaly talks through RCON, or has a specially built Admin Console like has has on MTAVC & VC:MP.  Sauron is registered.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Julian on May 14, 2009, 02:46:01 pm
I have problems with flaming too : /
I try to act nice and not to flame.
But sometimes i get too much pissed off. Idk why i must flame in /p, maybe so everyone could see im angry.
Anyway, if i flame someone next time, tempban me.
I got a problem too, but I try not to take it out when I'm here, it's more about Real life stuff, but sometimes i'm angry as hell here too so I turn out flaming.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Omri on May 14, 2009, 02:54:26 pm
Fair enough to ban someone if he did flame imo, and facts about me. I only flame when I have been treated unfairly.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Xeuq on May 14, 2009, 02:56:25 pm
Fair enough to ban someone if he did flame imo, and facts about me. I only flame when I have been treated unfairly.

Thats what im doing too. But I only flame when I belive i have been treated unfairly.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: shitix on May 14, 2009, 11:29:52 pm
-_-

When you got something new, Do you just start it? :S


I think you would first read the manual.
Still havent opened the manual for my xbox360 (had it for two years now)

My main reason for flaming is... I have to let my anger free.

But is it still allowed to RP flame? Like when two rival gangs meet can they flame IC ?
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: DeeJay on May 14, 2009, 11:50:42 pm
Flaming IC and OOC are against the rules. So I would say no on that question
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Boxy on May 15, 2009, 01:50:44 am
May I remind you that slang IS.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Kitsune on May 15, 2009, 04:04:46 am
But is it still allowed to RP flame? Like when two rival gangs meet can they flame IC ?
Flaming is not allowed, in or out of role play.

May I remind you that slang IS.
Although slang is allowed in role play, there are limits, so if you turn it into a personal attack on a player, then it's counted as flaming.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: hell1989 on May 15, 2009, 06:23:43 am
I dont understand why I can't flame in my CB channel? Only lvl 6 admins and higher can see, thats parts of the job, but I have freedom of speech as long as the other player don't know I am talking about them..
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Rory on May 15, 2009, 07:49:36 am
I dont understand why I can't flame in my CB channel? Only lvl 6 admins and higher can see, thats parts of the job, but I have freedom of speech as long as the other player don't know I am talking about them..

You also have the freedom to be in or not be in an organization, and by joining a group, organization, or team, you are subject to their rules and policies. The Freedom of Speech isn't usable in an instance where you agreed to join a group where you knew that may be limited. You have the freedom of speech, when you're required and do not have a choice. If you chose to do something, you give up that freedom.

Nice try, though.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Seskom on May 15, 2009, 12:04:05 pm
just a question are these things counted as flame:
1) Are you an idiot?
2) Oh my god what now? you gonna shit your pants and start to cry?

just a question
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Melvin on May 15, 2009, 12:50:54 pm
I think so.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Carbon on May 15, 2009, 12:59:26 pm
just a question are these things counted as flame:
1) Are you an idiot?
2) Oh my god what now? you gonna shit your pants and start to cry?

just a question

One is flaming and other is insulting.
Two different things, also i can take both as flaming.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Kitsune on May 15, 2009, 01:02:52 pm
just a question are these things counted as flame:
1) Are you an idiot?
2) Oh my god what now? you gonna shit your pants and start to cry?

just a question
A flame is a personal attack on someone, which is not restricted to direct statements such as, "you are stupid". Both those statements are personal and quite offensive, so yes, they are both flames. Although some people may react more leniently to the first, it is still considered flaming.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: EliteTerm on May 15, 2009, 01:21:40 pm
If you guys get mad, don't take it out on everyone. Just fucking quit the game, eat something/ drink/ masterbate/ whatever, and come back in 5-10 minutes when you're cooled off.

You don't want to repeat what Cane has done.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: MarioRinarri on May 15, 2009, 01:47:20 pm
How comes this topic isn't locked and sticky?
The way it is now provokes useless conversations.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Cofiliano on May 15, 2009, 01:57:23 pm
I dont understand why I can't flame in my CB channel? Only lvl 6 admins and higher can see, thats parts of the job, but I have freedom of speech as long as the other player don't know I am talking about them..

Flaming, is not flaming, if the person who is the subject is not aware. Fact.

Also i find my cb channel, private Family Room, and i will ALLWAYS says in cb channel what ever necesary to be spoken off, cause when i talk to people, friends and enemys, i try, and I am more then a polite person, by POLITE , i dont means hunny and rainbow, i yell i use caps sometimes in local, but i do/and can  control myself not to flame/insult  a person no mether what , and allways looking for a dialog if possible.

But i still think CB radio shoud be freedom speach, cause what ever you say , you say it to your friends, to your family members, not to a person that is subject, and NOT PUBLIC, in /p so everyone can hear it, wich makes a diference.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Fabio on May 15, 2009, 02:05:58 pm
But new players need to ask questions like that. I hate this system. And people whine about poor RP...All they do is f**king chit-chat.

I hate when people whine about "Poor RP", and "Non-RP", that just really annoys me.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on May 15, 2009, 03:49:11 pm
Flaming, is not flaming, if the person who is the subject is not aware. Fact.
Let's say you name-call and insult someone until you turn red. But the other person isn't aware of that (simple example - he doesn't speak the language). So you're not flaming him then because he isn't aware of what you're saying to him?

And what's with the "Fact." that people keep posting after things that are NOT facts. It doesn't make your ARGUMENT / OPINION bigger or more worthy.

But i still think CB radio shoud be freedom speach, cause what ever you say , you say it to your friends, to your family members, not to a person that is subject, and NOT PUBLIC, in /p so everyone can hear it, which makes a difference.
And it'll be like the "it was in IC!! ALLOED!!!11" situations, but this time "ic" will be replaced with "cb". It will only create trouble, misunderstandings and arguments between players and admins.


I hate when people whine about "Poor RP", and "Non-RP", that just really annoys me.
Touche!
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: TruthSvensson on May 15, 2009, 04:13:42 pm
YOU KNOW THE RULES
So do i.  :banana:
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Wash on May 15, 2009, 05:45:20 pm
Hmm. Is it allowed to flame IC, with the agreement of the other party?
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Rory on May 15, 2009, 06:41:29 pm
Hmm. Is it allowed to flame IC, with the agreement of the other party?

Read above, they just said no.
Title: Re: Flaming
Post by: Julian on May 15, 2009, 07:38:16 pm
Should be allowed IMO.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Kitsune on May 15, 2009, 07:43:27 pm
Hmm. Is it allowed to flame IC, with the agreement of the other party?
Regardless of whether either party mind flaming in character or not, it's still against the rules.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: ChaNce on May 15, 2009, 08:59:05 pm
Regardless of whether either party mind flaming in character or not, it's still against the rules.

Seriously dude, there is a difference between OOC and IC, and this are just the simple terms of roleplay..NO HARDCORE-RP how you guys like to call it.
If I RP a gangmember in here, I will keep flaming guys, who shit on me ICly, doesn't matter..its just roleplay.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Nexxt on May 15, 2009, 09:03:20 pm
Seriously dude, there is a difference between OOC and IC, and this are just the simple terms of roleplay..NO HARDCORE-RP how you guys like to call it.
If I RP a gangmember in here, I will keep flaming guys, who shit on me ICly, doesn't matter..its just roleplay.

Worst thing is, in Argonath some people cannot see the difference between IC and OOC flaming.
This will only cause more OOC flaming when allowed IC flaming.

It's a fact, that most part of Argonath is under 18 and is very touched to flame someone, without even understand if it's OOC or IC.

Thats my opinion.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: ChaNce on May 15, 2009, 09:10:32 pm
Worst thing is, in Argonath some people cannot see the difference between IC and OOC flaming.
This will only cause more OOC flaming when allowed IC flaming.

It's a fact, that most part of Argonath is under 18 and is very touched to flame someone, without even understand if it's OOC or IC.

Thats my opinion.


Sad...but true.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Kitsune on May 15, 2009, 09:37:18 pm
Seriously dude, there is a difference between OOC and IC, and this are just the simple terms of roleplay..NO HARDCORE-RP how you guys like to call it.
If I RP a gangmember in here, I will keep flaming guys, who shit on me ICly, doesn't matter..its just roleplay.
I know what the difference is, but I don't set the rules, I only enforce them.
Title: Re: Flaming
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on May 15, 2009, 10:11:57 pm
Then f*ck it, ive had it with gangs calling me a pig and other shit, I will report them if they ever IC flame me again.....
Title: Re: Flaming
Post by: ChaNce on May 15, 2009, 10:24:21 pm
Then f*ck it, ive had it with gangs calling me a pig and other shit, I will report them if they ever IC flame me again.....

Nothing will happen, if you do this..I just keep my flaming IC..mostly nothing happens anyways...if I got bad luck..I get a warning....if I got worse luck..I get a kick..
Title: Re: Flaming
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on May 15, 2009, 10:28:10 pm
Depends on the admin, CBF will probroly temp ban, since he posted this whole topic, and I will personally send in an email if I get flamed cause I had it with gang members thinking they are toough shit acting like idiots to cops but flaming them.
Title: Re: Flaming
Post by: ChaNce on May 15, 2009, 10:29:04 pm
Depends on the admin, CBF will probroly temp ban, since he posted this whole topic, and I will personally send in an email if I get flamed cause I had it with gang members thinking they are toough shit acting like idiots to cops but flaming them.

Yep true..CBF is the only one I'm scared off here....fo' real..
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on May 15, 2009, 10:54:14 pm
It's not about roleplay usage... It's about bending rules and evading punishment with the "it was IC" excuse.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: ChaNce on May 15, 2009, 11:10:52 pm
It's not about roleplay usage... It's about bending rules and evading punishment with the "it was IC" excuse.

There is no such excuse: You can flame someone with an RP background
Or you can flame someone..just becuase you personally don't like him...easy as it is..
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: Nexxt on May 15, 2009, 11:39:14 pm
There is no such excuse: You can flame someone with an RP background
Or you can flame someone..just becuase you personally don't like him...easy as it is..

Thats mixing OOC with IC and that sucks balls.
Title: Re: Flaming
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on May 16, 2009, 12:59:51 am
Guys, even main admins have explained that there is no difference between IC and OOC. Doe anyone remember them saying this? Well obviously its bs huh.
Title: Re: Flaming
Post by: Chase on May 16, 2009, 01:51:25 am
Like my teacher says.. There are rules in life. Whether you agree with them or not, you have to follow them or face the consequences.
Title: Re: FLAMING
Post by: CBFasi on May 16, 2009, 12:20:39 pm
Yeah, And do you know what is more worse CBFasi?
That you and all other player argumentation it on the Public chat...

I hate this f**king Public chat because this days it very annoying
/setpublic off FTW!!
Your right in one aspect, it shoudl not of been in public chat BUT that was only way to reach all those involved
ALSO says alot when YOU complain about this yet have got in trouble for FLAMING and had your ARPD rights removed.


I agree, don't disable public chat, but there is no need to have a flame war in /p. If you wanna discuss with eachother, go near each other so you can talk in local or take a unowned CB channel.
You flame in there its just as bad, NO FLAMING is rules it does NOT SAY NO FLAMING WHERE OTHERS CAN SEE IT

CB, PM, any chat, forum its ALL SAME as far as flaming is concerned!


Admins get reports of flamings in PM, CB, and other various chats.  If we do nothing they YOU all start to flame the admins for not doing thier job, if we DO react then a few will flame us for doing our job.  So we look at simple fact, you break the server rules then we WILL REACT were possible

Regulars have NO EXCUSE, newplayers do but not for long as often many admins (I not saying all) will use pm's to give intial warnings, but that is often ignored so then we start to use the offical ways...

I even created a command that gives a brief list of our core rules, which include no flaming, its the same list you see on entry to server in blue !

Just because your target does not realise you flaming them does not mean its right, in fact its even worse cos its shows your incapable of facing up to that person on a level footing and admins are still requried to react as some DO understand non-english languages
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