Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: ChaNce on May 24, 2009, 11:20:33 am
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Well, I don't want to report it, as I see not really much sense in this situation.
Let me clear it up:
I was a suspect, because I killed a person, where no people saw it (somewhere behind a wall in a little sidestreet).
Anyways, I accepted the fact, that my name became orange, but with that, I accepted a decent roleplay from the side of the ARPD.
Right, so..I went to the Pay N' spray...and a few cops surrounded me. I ofcourse gave up, removed all my weapons etcetera.
Here comes my first question: How did those guys find out, that it is ME, who killed a person in this SIDESTREET, where absolutely no one was.
Well, here I go and start to talk OFCOURSE IC (In character), asking how they'd know, that the person is me, that killed this guy.
And here came the awesome, really great answer, which made me facepalm: Every kill, is saved in a database.
Well, maybe I didn't get it right so I asked again: "If I kill someone in this state, does a little message appear on your computer, which says, that I killed a person? Does the name of me and the victim appear in the "database"?
Answer: Yes.
Good, I called CBFasi to watch the whole scene; But which answer did I get? Something like:"Yo stop your discussion you know how the server works! ", I don't know if this was supposed to be OOC(ly) meant or whatever. So..I go along, start discussing with the two cops (Bamf and Battle Cuneo).
Ah and what I forgot to say: I, IC(ly) resisted to get out of the car, so they pulled me out with force, no problem..but THEN: An ARPD cop takes MY car..and drives it against a wall over and over again until it explodes (Bamf Cuneo I guess). How can those guys get the rank of an ARPD Officer?
(This happend before CBFasi came).
Back to the scene, when CBFasi appeared.
I started to discuss how they could have the proof of me killing a person and so on.
They tried to cuff me, but I , IC(ly) resisted (/me resists, with moving away from the cuffs).
Ok, then they pulled out their nitesticks, and beat me up a little bit.
I tried to defend myself, with holding my arms infront of my face, to not get hurt.
They lowered my health, and I was still standing, discussing there (EVERYTHING OFCOURSE IC), while Fasi was watching.
Then I, again ironically (typo) asked ; " Yo, do I have an orange nameshield above my head, which says i'm wanted or what?"
And then, ofcourse the normal excuse for metagaming came to my ears: " OH CAMAN..PLX THIS IS NO ULTiMATE RP-SERVER PLX!"
What's wrong with you guys? Whats so hard about learning the meaning of meta- and powergaming?
I don't wanna whine about the RP of this community, as this is not the mainfact of my point.
As my health went down, I kept discussing with them officers and THEN: One of those cops..gave me a HEADSHOT..and I ofcourse died etc.
CBFasi was watching the whole scene: I was asking him twice or trice, why he didn't manage to punish this guy...I got no answer.
What do you guys say about this?
What do YOU, CBFasi say about this?
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If you kill somebody, you have an orange name.
Cops only see orange, and they shoot at it.
Thats about it, really.
Or maybe thats just me when I'm on duty.
I really don't care about the details of how you killed somebody, if you did kill them and it wasn't a killbug then you are wanted. And in answer to your orange name thing, I'd have said "yes" because frankly I don't play this like a roleplay sim, I play it like a game, and in this game you are blue and shoot the orange people - to put it simply, that is.
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About Freecops, i think every cop should be trained and informed about the job before let him to the streets with a weapon and a rights. That means everyone should start from Cadet and registered at ARPD.
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If you kill somebody, you have an orange name.
Cops only see orange, and they shoot at it.
Thats about it, really.
Or maybe thats just me when I'm on duty.
I really don't care about the details of how you killed somebody, if you did kill them and it wasn't a killbug then you are wanted. And in answer to your orange name thing, I'd have said "yes" because frankly I don't play this like a roleplay sim, I play it like a game, and in this game you are blue and shoot the orange people - to put it simply, that is.
Sadly I have to agree with this one.
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I think you shouldn't get auto suspected if you kill someone, just if any cop is nearby.
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Your extended role play defies the purpose of us having an automatic suspecting system in the first place. It's a game, so don't expect everything to be realistic.
In terms of role play, if you're automatically suspected for killing, then assume that the police have already investigated everything, have concluded that you are the culprit and have you out on wanted.
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Your extended role play defies the purpose of us having an automatic suspecting system in the first place. It's a game, so don't expect everything to be realistic.
In terms of role play, if you're automatically suspected for killing, then assume that the police have already investigated everything, have concluded that you are the culprit and have you out on wanted.
So, the smallest amount of Roleplay here right? Why don't we play Cops & Robbers?
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Then cops can do this, someone might have killed a guy alone in the middle of the desert, and a cop is at LSAP for example, and when the cop see the killer, he just starts to chase him, how the hell would he know that that guy killed someone if he didn't see it or have any evidence of it?
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So, the smallest amount of Roleplay here right? Why don't we play Cops & Robbers?
Who said anything about smallest amount? You're defining that yourself.
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What a useless thread.
I mean, it's been like this for almost forever. If you want to change it, make a proposal at the RS4 idea board.
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What a useless thread.
I mean, it's been like this for almost forever. If you want to change it, make a proposal at the RS4 idea board.
Dude first of all , read the whole thread again, then you go ---->, and then come back if you have anything useful to say, BECUASE I am NOT suggesting anything here.
Who said anything about smallest amount? You're defining that yourself.
But you are telling me: "Just RP that all cops have already investigated the whole case."
Sounds pretty unrealistic to me doesn't it?
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'Dude', I read the whole topic. Point is that you don't like the fact that you
a) Get wanted for killing someone, when a cop isn't nearby
b) Cops come like flies to your orange nickname
c) You got killed.
And then I said: "I mean, it's been like this for almost forever". Followed by a ". If you want to change it, make a proposal at the RS4 idea board."
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'Dude', I read the whole topic. Point is that you don't like the fact that you
a) Get wanted for killing someone, when a cop isn't nearby
b) Cops come like flies to your orange nickname
c) You got killed.
And then I said: "I mean, it's been like this for almost forever". Followed by a ". If you want to change it, make a proposal at the RS4 idea board."
Let me ask you Smey:
Do you like to get wanted for killing someone, when NO ONE, absolutely NO ONE is nearby?
If you are suspected; Do you want that cops come to you like a horde of flies?
Do you like to get killed by guys who barely speak english and carkill you (Mostly freecops+cadets)
This idea already has been proposed in the RS4 Section, but denied. (Which I don't understand)
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Then cops can do this, someone might have killed a guy alone in the middle of the desert, and a cop is at LSAP for example, and when the cop see the killer, he just starts to chase him, how the hell would he know that that guy killed someone if he didn't see it or have any evidence of it?
We have an automatic suspecting system. I'm not going into a pointless argument. This has already gotten too ridiculous.
But you are telling me: "Just RP that all cops have already investigated the whole case."
Sounds pretty unrealistic to me doesn't it?
Being unrealistic does not equate to the smallest amount of role play. If you can't role play without hardcore realism, then that just reflects on your inability for to role play here.
This idea already has been proposed in the RS4 Section, but denied. (Which I don't understand)
Then you really don't understand Argonath.
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Ok Ghost tell me:
If I am suspected ;
Do I have to consider a Horde of moneyhungry cops after me, who just yell : SURRENDER, SURRENDER , SURRENDER!?
Do I have to consider, getting killed, while standing and beeing unarmed?
As soon as someone gets orange the game:" WHO KILLS THE ORANGE DOT FIRST" starts.
Ghost tell me, WHAT DO THE COPS RP here?
I just want facts thats all.
Even if you get the /kill bug, everyone is scared of this Orangedotkilling-Horde; just today I saw Frank Hawk saying: COME ON ADMINS UNSUS ME, BEFORE THE HORDE COMES AND KILLS ME (Not the exact quote but somethign like that)
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Do I have to consider a Horde of moneyhungry cops after me, who just yell : SURRENDER, SURRENDER , SURRENDER!?
You make very enthusiastic police officers sound like a bad thing.
Do I have to consider, getting killed, while standing and beeing unarmed?
Just get your hands up, do what they say and you won't be killed. If you prefer to let your arrogance lead you and argue with the police, then deal with your fate.
As soon as someone gets orange the game:" WHO KILLS THE ORANGE DOT FIRST" starts.
That only applies to orange dots who don't cooperate.
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Bullshit!
If I am discussing with the cops etc. about the arresting reason and so on; they are allowed to kill me?
Right.
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What's there to discuss? You committed a crime, so must go to jail.
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What's there to discuss? You committed a crime, so must go to jail.
Thats the discussion:
Cop: HEY U SURRENDER OR WE WILL USE FORCE!
Me: Hey, why do you want to arrest me?
Cop: Becuz u killed man.
Me: How do you know?
Cop: Name is orange
Me: Hmm...great.
Cop: Surrender nao or we will use force!
Me: Do you have any proofs it was me?
Cop: I said ur name iz orange!
Me: *sigh*
Cop: *BANG HEADSHOT*
Me: -Dead-
allowed?
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Your extended role play defies the purpose of us having an automatic suspecting system in the first place. It's a game, so don't expect everything to be realistic.
In terms of role play, if you're automatically suspected for killing, then assume that the police have already investigated everything, have concluded that you are the culprit and have you out on wanted.
They know and they don't have the patience to listen to your lies.
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Almighty cops then, alright, no sense to discuss with you.
Metagaming and Powergaming is allowed, why do I even bother to still discuss?
/lock and /trash please.
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Locked, but I'm leaving this topic here as a reference for other such disputes.