Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: peps on May 24, 2009, 05:38:51 pm
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How do u rank the mafias in the game from the top?
For example mafias like: Stracci, Corleone, Arratus Yakuza
And what mafia do u like the most and why? and dont post just cuz its ur mafia please explain
I heared Corleone is the best mafia in the game then comes Stracci but I dont know anything.
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I wouldn't say that any mafia is better than another. To me, all mafias are pretty much the same, some are just bigger than others.
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I wouldn't say that any mafia is better than another. To me, all mafias are pretty much the same, some are just bigger than others.
Could not have been said better. Some are just having an awsome reputation, and some a bad. But I do think personally the Corleone is good but only because of how long you think they have been around, and thats for ages.
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Any form of group has not been rated higher than others, because it's impossible to
If you rate groups then you have to define good points about them...such as:
1. does "best" mean the one with the most members?
2. does it mean the one with the best roleplaying skills?
3. does it mean the oldest?
It's impossible to rate them really
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i think Gvardia is a great mafia we have many members and i think we have a good reputation (did not say all this bcoz i am a member)
but Corleone is a good mafia 2 i see them rping alot
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I supose it's quality + quantity taken into realtes. Like quantity of good quality is better, than quality with no quantity, and even more better with quantity without quality.
Quantity + Quality > Quality > Quantaty
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I'll only cover the three you mentioned, given that there are so many (and also I don't know their history or current styles of play).
The Araatus Yakuza is a cool group, however they discourage strict roleplay and also are not hiring new members unless under special circumstance. They have a rich story/history, which is catalogued in full at the start of the topic. Every part of the Araatus Yakuza story really did happen ingame on Argonath, including the Araatus Family. They are on the Stracci side of the web (described below) however they originated from the Corleone side, every leader having been in Corleone in the past except Axel, who was in TCL. Araatus have a small area East of Downtown Los Santos which they own almost outright, and also a HQ at the foot of the hill that the Corleone Mansion sits on. They used to be very powerful, but now have almost no members.
The Corleone Mafia commonly use strict roleplay, such as the irritating (( )) tags that Violet uses to annoy me : (. They have been around for the longest and have the richest history. However, most of this is hidden away in their giant topic. If you want to join a group that has 0% chance of going under, Corleone is it. All good and successful Mafias have at least one leader that had a history in Corleone, unless they were on the LCV side of the web, in which case they will have history with Stracci or one of its ancestors (including LCV, GVU, etc). Corleone have almost total control of the skyscrapers in Downtown LS, aside from those under the Zaibatsu Corporation and possibly one or two other exceptions.
The Stracci Family are the opposite side of Corleone in terms of alliances. SA-MP Argonath gang alliance structure is based off "Corleone allies" and "Stracci allies" with Stracci allies usually under the Magni Pact. Stracci sometimes use strict roleplaying methods, but it is not strongly enforced from what I see (which is a good thing). Stracci is the other side of the established alliance structure, and will pretty much always be against Corleone. They have almost total control of the north-west Stracci Boulevard area of Los Santos, along with a good deal of West LS.
I think I did an okay job, considering the lolness of the OP. Tried not to miss anything pertinent.
I'm bored :(.
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I would say it's pretty much as panda wrote. Either mafias are allied with Corleone or Stracci, and then they are enemies with either one of these 2 mafias
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My favorite mafias are Araatus and Stracci, from when I had Luvineri with shitix, we worked with them, it was very fun. I've never really liked Gvardia actually, to me it first seemed like Gvardia had the attitude 'We are the biggest, greatest and we are best, we're San Fierro's main power!' when Luvineri were almost as big, and giving themselves that title was something I never liked.
It started when they shot at anyone that entered the heroin ship in RS3, which annoyed the f**k outta me. Corleone seem okay to me, but I've been on the other side now for a while.
If I would join any mafia now, it would be either Stracci or Araatus.
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I'll only cover the three you mentioned, given that there are so many (and also I don't know their history or current styles of play).
The Araatus Yakuza is a cool group, however they discourage strict roleplay and also are not hiring new members unless under special circumstance. They have a rich story/history, which is catalogued in full at the start of the topic. Every part of the Araatus Yakuza story really did happen ingame on Argonath, including the Araatus Family. They are on the Stracci side of the web (described below) however they originated from the Corleone side, every leader having been in Corleone in the past except Axel, who was in TCL. Araatus have a small area East of Downtown Los Santos which they own almost outright, and also a HQ at the foot of the hill that the Corleone Mansion sits on. They used to be very powerful, but now have almost no members.
The Corleone Mafia commonly use strict roleplay, such as the irritating (( )) tags that Violet uses to annoy me : (. They have been around for the longest and have the richest history. However, most of this is hidden away in their giant topic. If you want to join a group that has 0% chance of going under, Corleone is it. All good and successful Mafias have at least one leader that had a history in Corleone, unless they were on the LCV side of the web, in which case they will have history with Stracci or one of its ancestors (including LCV, GVU, etc). Corleone have almost total control of the skyscrapers in Downtown LS, aside from those under the Zaibatsu Corporation and possibly one or two other exceptions.
The Stracci Family are the opposite side of Corleone in terms of alliances. SA-MP Argonath gang alliance structure is based off "Corleone allies" and "Stracci allies" with Stracci allies usually under the Magni Pact. Stracci sometimes use strict roleplaying methods, but it is not strongly enforced from what I see (which is a good thing). Stracci is the other side of the established alliance structure, and will pretty much always be against Corleone. They have almost total control of the north-west Stracci Boulevard area of Los Santos, along with a good deal of West LS.
I think I did an okay job, considering the lolness of the OP. Tried not to miss anything pertinent.
I'm bored :(.
Very nice, Pandu.
I dont know if it happened when you were Pandu_Corleone, but the Corleone cb is a lot more liberal in terms of strict roleplay, but we pride ourselves on being the best roleplaying mafia, and to do that successfully, we have what I believe is the best training system perhaps on a level with SWAT. Most people who are current leaders of gangs/clans have been in Corleone in the past, including Carbon, Dwight Cems, ScorpZ Cems, Panda, Sama Solonik, Mario Rinna and WS Charlie. There is no 'Third side' of Argonath at the moment, even if Gvardia claim to segregate themselves from the 'Stracci-Corleone' alliance system. The Corleone topic is the biggest topic on these forums, and easily the longest running group, also having won the Best Criminal Group 2008, things are looking good, and I think Corleone still has the most members (even if you exclude the time when NitrOx impostered Corleone by wearing the tags, when Corleone did not have clan protection). Corleone was originally =CM= and Stracci came from NitrOx and Ints in Las Colinas Vagos (LCV). To add to this, there has been the ever lasting GSF (Grove Street Famillies, now known as OGF), which has incorporated several members into Stracci or Corleone. It would be very cool to have a stickied topic with a SAMP groups story and history, would make it a lot easier and comparable for those people who haven't decided, where they wish to feature in the Stracci vs Corleone thing. If you go back enough, you will find alliances like the Corporation, which were deemed as enticing mass deathmatch by server developers, and so were banned, but Magni (the current Stracci side mass alliance) has not had a meeting since the infamous incident where there was a spy who found out the identity of a spy in Corleone whilst at that meeting.
Very nice work, again, Pandu. :bow:
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Stracci is the best mafia.
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Stracci is the best mafia.
Based on what evidence?
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imo, Stracci and Corleone are equal, no one is better. Both mafias has their members, Both mafias got their assets, Both mafias got their own business.
So like i said, no one is better then the other.
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For clarification purposes, NitrOx created a group called 'Colombo' or something with Ints, both former LCV members/leaders. I joined on the condition that he changed the name to Stracci, Colombo was still relatively new so it's wasn't a problem to change. The name was changed and I joined, I was the former leader of the original GSF, GSF has been recreated after that but has never lived up to the reputation of the original one thus far.
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I dont know if it happened when you were Pandu_Corleone, but the Corleone cb is a lot more liberal in terms of strict roleplay
Yea, when I was in Corleone we didn't have CB Radios. Man, we didn't even have RS3 yet, we were still working out of the set spawnpoints. I joined Solonik one day before RS3 came.
Incidentally, we also didn't have any weird IC/OOC rubbish and no strict roleplay on the entire server. Better times. ;)
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Yea, when I was in Corleone we didn't have CB Radios. Man, we didn't even have RS3 yet, we were still working out of the set spawnpoints. I joined Solonik one day before RS3 came.
Incidentally, we also didn't have any weird IC/OOC rubbish and no strict roleplay on the entire server. Better times. ;)
Just to clear this up, when exactly did RS3 come out? o.o
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November 12th, or maybe 13th? I'm not all that sure. 2007, anyway.
Man, 0.2.1 was fucking awesome.
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Yea, when I was in Corleone we didn't have CB Radios. Man, we didn't even have RS3 yet, we were still working out of the set spawnpoints. I joined Solonik one day before RS3 came.
Incidentally, we also didn't have any weird IC/OOC rubbish and no strict roleplay on the entire server. Better times. ;)
((YOUUUUUUU backstabber :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:, You will die OOC by Ignazio Corleone because of this :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :m4: :sig:))
((Yeah, it was a joke, Pandu, I think your a nice guy 'OOCly' O_O ))
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November 12th, or maybe 13th? I'm not all that sure. 2007, anyway.
Man, 0.2.1 was f**king awesome.
One month late. -.-
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((Vince, was your car pink then like it is now? :evil:))
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(( Violet, why are you always talking OOC in /p ? ))
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Rank the mafia..wow this is going to be difficult. Since I have been in a couple myself, including Dragons, Corleone, Leone and now Gvardia.
Since the server is made up of almost 50 percent Mafia or more, most people will just vote for theirs which is justified.
I been around on the server with the first gang in Argonath SAMP, called [LSA] Los Santos Astecas, when we moved it was changed to Las Venturas Astecas [LVA], and its where I got most of the experience. When Dragons mafia entered the server, and news of mafia on Argo MTA called =CM=, things were looking hard for us facing off against the first mafia which was actually, Kerr's Mafia.
Then CM showed up with Tice as the leader or something like that, and I had flame battles with him in the past :D
Then some how I managed to Join CM a couple months later, and that was fun. Always encouraged Role Play, and the first group I rejoined back in Sep 2008 after my 6 month unban.
((When CB radio was new))
Always been two sides,
CM vs Stracci,
I guess we are a Godfather server after all?
Anyway, you can't really judge a group unless you been in their shoes or the whole group has been banned for bad actions, people cry in Main Chat, DM DM! But I just think to myself,
Some people aren't cut out for online gaming.
Gvardia has a large presence in San Fierro. In the begining, Luverini and Leone chose to go against us, and look at them now. You can't cut out Gvardia as a 3rd side, and very soon it will be apparent we are the 3rd side, since we don't even hang around in Los Santos to get killed by all the freecops..
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As many have previously said, there really, truly isn't a whole, agreeable scale or way to go about rating any of Argonath's mafias. Or gangs, clans, and other groups for that matter. Sure, you can say that this new clan might not has as many members as AV or WS, but I don't think that makes AV or WS or any larger group any better, merely bigger.
And I think that personally this topic should get some close attention by moderators because I am sure someone will say something that will piss of someone else and something terrible will happen, flaming, or IG fights, etc.
Groups as a whole can't be rated, but perhaps there individual members can. For example, lets say a gang has 10 members, and 2 of them have a history of bans, one was serious ((Ex. Hacks)). That gang can't be legitemately called a hacking or rule-breaking gang. Those individual players can, to a level of tolerance. If all 10 members hack and have 2-3 bans each, then maybe, just MAYBE, you could say the gang is a rule-breaking gang. And as soon as another member joined, it wouldn't be legitimate.
I'm sure some people CAN rate groups/gangs/clans/mafias/etc with reasons they find legitimate, and that is fine. But trying to force those beliefs isn't right, not that anyone has at ALL, just stating. And I think that some people whom rightfully take there opinions seriously could result in some fight on this topic, but again I repeat myself. Anyway, I can't rate them, even if I tried.
On one note however, people could vote for their personal favorite but that would be a popular opinion and not a fact saying that that mafia is the best.
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Haha, I have to agree with Panda that the 0.2.1 times were the best.
This is the Corleone story from how it all went down in main lines. The first part ("Liberty City ... Salvatore Leone") is not based on truth, the truth is that we started out on MTA:VC. ;)
Liberty City, 1990 – Portland was under complete control by the Corleone family. They were fighting a bloody battle with the Yakuza mob in Staunten Island. Some months later the Triads began to spread over Chinatown and parts of Trenton, resulting in an all out war across Portland. The Corleone family retreated to Saint Marks to slow down the Triad onslaught. After a period of 2 months, the remaining family mobsters managed to get to St. Francais Intl. Airport to escape to the state of San Andreas. Others stayed to fight in the streets of Portland, and recreated the family as the Leones – led by former second in command Salvatore Leone.
San Andreas, 1991 - The ones who fled to San Andreas met up and began setting up the organisation. The Corleone family immediately declared peace with nearby families and gangs. Throughout some months, the family gained manpower and respect from all groups in the city of Los Santos.
After some time, the family managed to take over Mullholland. The situation in the city of Los Santos soon started to heat up. Families and gangs in the city started to slaughter eachother. The main reason of this was the so-called Mafia Latina. Many families and gangs had grudges with the doings of this mafia, and started to attack the Corleone Mafia under their name. The Corleone family didn’t take this kindly, and launched a counterattack on them. In response of this, the Mafia Latina attacked back which resulted in the final straw. The Mafia Latina was destroyed. It is still unknown who triggered these attacks.
Many nearby gangs and businesses finally saw and acknowledged the power of the Corleone family, and declared alliances with them. After this point, allot of small gangs started to emerge from the streets of Los Santos, which resulted in an increasing gang tension across the city. The Corleone family decided to be careful and started to deploy spies into other families and gangs for safety measures. One particular gang, the Grove Street family, uncovered one of these spies and declared an all out war on the Corleone family. Civilians were scattered all over the grounds and running for cover while the two exchanged fire for more than two hours. Peace has now been declared on the Grove Street family.
After this incident, more attacks were launched on the Corleone family and the family decided to retreat from the blood that scattered the streets of the god-forsaken city of Los Santos and moved to the city of San Fierro. They bought an entire country resort for themselves and started to continue their business there. After several months of ruling the city of San Fierro, their wealth and manpower gained with great numbers. They also received the news that the streets of Los Santos were nearly cleaned from all those small-time gangs. In response, the family decided to expand back to Los Santos and in addition Las Venturas. The family started to use Los Santos as their main recruiting resource, and moved their manpower over to the other cities.
Business went on as usual, and since then the Corleone family started to increase popularity all over the state of San Andreas. They had started successful gambling ventures in Las Venturas and had multiple protection rackets in San Fierro. All went well until allot of businesses in San Fierro moved to both Los Santos and Las Venturas, which disrupted the whole San Fierro economy. This lead to the decision of the family to move their San Fierro mobsters to Los Santos. Due to the increased manpower that was available in Los Santos, the family reached the top of the families in the whole state of San Andreas, which lead to a whole new era of power, wealth and wars…
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i dont think a gang or Mafia will bigger than Corleone or Stracci
CM vs Stracci FTW :)
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Okay thx guys all as specialy panda but the one who said Stracci, why Solonik why not Corleone?
And if there is a battle (shooting battle) between Stracci and Corleone who will win? Who has beter proffesionality, training , rp?
And if u wanted to choose one of the mafias what mafia would u choose from those 2 and why?
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We dont know who is better, since those shootouts is against the servers rules
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Araatus wins shootouts, we like those! :lol:
I can't say the real answer, NitrOx would kill me D: :conf:
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i think Gvardia is a great mafia we have many members and i think we have a good reputation (did not say all this bcoz i am a member)
but Corleone is a good mafia 2 i see them rping alot
Gvardia got a bad reputation lol, they even made CBF close RS4 once
although i have to say Gvardia changed in good way, but to say good reputation certainly not
same goes for Cems, they dont have a good reputation
Stracci got nothing, not bad not good either
i think Corleone and Araatus are the best groups
Araatus is good rping group, but got low amount of members,
so in a fight Corleone wins
i think overall Corleone the best group, although they like to break rules once in a while
while araatus does that far less
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Gvardia got a bad reputation lol, they even made CBF close RS4 once
although i have to say Gvardia changed in good way, but to say good reputation certainly not
same goes for Cems, they dont have a good reputation
Stracci got nothing, not bad not good either
i think Corleone and Araatus are the best groups
Araatus is good rping group, but got low amount of members,
so in a fight Corleone wins
i think overall Corleone the best group, although they like to break rules once in a while
while araatus does that far less
Is it posible, that cause of your arguing over /p, in rs4 BETHA, you blame on Gvardia? You simply the guy who will never change no mether what...
Why dont you ask CBF did he close Betha server then, cause of US, or cause of someone else? Since i DID ask him, you shoud do the SAME before stating a sentence like that ....
Whell, Gvardia , in my netural opinion, is more then on a good way, to become one of the Stable Mafias, wich didnt happend since Araatus started.
Now i think its hard to state wich Mafia is bether, cause like all ppl said, there is multiple conditions of judging , that just can not make a united opinion abaut it ..
As for our ``bad reputation``, i dont think ppl like Wolfe Matute etc, woud join us if that was the case, we are hated by lot of people, thats corect, but since we are IC ENEMYS with Both Araatus, Stracci, and Corleone atm ( wich brings you to the number over 60 procent of criminal regular players ), wich i think none of Criminal groups have courage to do it ( or they were closed after like 24h ), and also that we realy have constant arguing with lot of regular RP clans member who are officers( wich makes like 30 procent more of the Server), it realy woud be more then weard , if at least 60 procent of Server woudnt hate us ..
``Violents is stupid, all we are saying, is give peace a chance..`` :D
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The problem I see a lot recently is that a lot of gangs are just fighting for the hell of it, a lot of players have the belief that joining a gang means "shoot the police and other gangs", while other groups etc are roleplaying...
Not going to mention any groups whatsoever, but let's just say that some groups are the "best" in terms of shooting people (deathmatching), and others are the "best" in terms of roleplaying ability - defining which is the best at what is almost impossible though, considering that roleplay simply can't be rated...
Everyone has a different style of roleplay. It would be like comparing businessman roleplay to street gang roleplay - hardly possible
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1. Corleone, Stracci, Araatus, Montana, Solonik, Zaibatsu corporation, SAPD. (I think I forgot some :D )
2. Luvineri
3. Cems (Not a street gang, but a negroe mafia )
last: Gvardia
Everything's based on my opinion.
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1. Corleone - The way they treat trail members the same way they treat high ranked members.
2. Araatus - The way panda works, this will sure be one of the best groups, wait and see
3. Solonik Brotherhood - Long history behind, awesome rp'ers.
And as Oliver said.
Gvardia - The way they dont treat trails the way they treat high ranked members, they dont even listen to what you say.
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Skruff, are you Askel? If so how in the world do you "remember" Solonik etc. :eek:
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Araatus iz teh best, gais. :/
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1. Corleone, Stracci, Araatus. (The 3 Los Santos Powers ;) )
2. Gvardia
3. Cems
I will explain why the mafias ranked as #1 are there.
Corleone : One of the best groups I have experienced, the members are friendly and as a trial, you miss nothing... you are treated as an equal to the higher ranks and if you ever need any help, you can guarantee you get it.
Stracci : Has a strong leader and a strong reputation. Not likely to back out of a fight, They know how to resolve problems without guns... which is alot of groups nowadays problem.
Araatus : They have great members. They are friendly and sensible. Thats all I have to say :D