Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Rory on May 27, 2009, 08:43:13 am
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Short, simple, and to the point;
SASD is a POLICE GROUP, meaning when an SASD member is OFF DUTY, they have NO TIES to SASD, just as they would have NO TIES to ARPD if they were off duty.
As long as they are not breaking server rules, then they are not doing anything wrong, just as an ARPD Member who is off duty would not be doing anything wrong.
As long as an SASD member is off duty, they are NOT considered to be active for SASD, meaning their action as an individual is, well, INDIVIDUAL.
I'm tired of seeing "SASD Member complaint, request to shut down group" about issues where they are off duty. If they are off duty, THEY ARE NOT IN SASD!!!
SASD = ARPD Subdivision.
Cop Group. Which means outside the ARPD - THEY DON'T EXIST!!
I can only control my Deputies when they are ON DUTY. So how is it the group's fault, if they're doing actions OFF DUTY when the SASD doesn't exist off duty?
I rest my case.
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did you really need a full topic on this we all know this we are not retarded
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May i ask why you post this here and not in your topic at the ARPD forum ?
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May i ask why you post this here and not in your topic at the ARPD forum ?
Because it's the general public of Argonath that are causing problems with us, not Police.
did you really need a full topic on this we all know this we are not retarded
Not too sure about that, I could be misinformed about that statement when people complain about SASD when they're off duty.
I wouldn't be too quick to say "we are not retarded", you tried to report them for misuse of SMG when "it was not abuse", Pancher's words himself. Although, that's an on duty situation so that will not be discussed here.
Apparently not too many people understand this off duty concept, or I would not have made this topic.
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Some SASD's members is abuser ON DUTY, disrespecting ON DUTY, disobeying order ON DUTY
But not for someone
Such as you, Rory
Don't be worry, make a form in ur division topic that report ur member. So someone can complain them and u can explain it.
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SASD is a good police group.
You cannot say they abuse, but some individuals do.
I think, SASD has a lot of experience on previous servers, to do their job as cop well.
And if you have problems, just report to ARPD.
The topicstarted wanted to annouce on thing to the public, I think it's allowed.
But putting complains against SASD here, is not the right topic - go to arpd.argonathrpg.com -> forums
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1. This is not the right place for a topic like that.
2. I've seen SASD members abusing many times and using UZI in some non-allowed-shoot-in situations
3. Some new SASD Full members aren't experienced enough and they're officers (i wonder how they got their badges , wierd...hmmm)
kthxbai :banana:
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1. This is not the right place for a topic like that.
2. I've seen SASD members abusing many times and using UZI in some non-allowed-shoot-in situations
3. Some new SASD Full members aren't experienced enough and they're officers (i wonder how they got their badges , wierd...hmmm)
kthxbai :banana:
1. It's directed to the people of Argonath, if not in General, where?
2. I think I've seen every officer abuse once in a while. And there are no UZI's, only SMG's :o
3. I believe they are all more than qualified to become officers. Who are you to say they aren't? They became officers for a reason.
SASD is a group highly commited to their work, which I respect. "A group is only as good as its leadership", that's an old saying, and I direct it to Rory. He has done good, and I wish for you (Rory) to keep it up.
You are the 'main' leader aren't you? :p
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SASD is a good police group.
You cannot say they abuse, but some individuals do.
I think, SASD has a lot of experience on previous servers, to do their job as cop well.
And if you have problems, just report to ARPD.
The topicstarted wanted to annouce on thing to the public, I think it's allowed.
But putting complains against SASD here, is not the right topic - go to arpd.argonathrpg.com -> forums
Same from me.. I realy dont have my personal hate toward ARPD officers , 4-5 are expection, cause of the way they just run into a group of wanted criminals, and shot araund till they dead, SASD doesnt do that, they plan the tactics how to aproach us, how to take us down, like there is a none-return rule for cops to, thats why i like the way SASD function.
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1. W/e.
2. You know what i mean don't change topic ;) , I meant drive bying (As a driver and in some not allowed situations
3. Probably
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Uzi = SMG :poke:
I believe:
It's depend on person that they are abusing or what, nothing link with division, subdivision, group, clan, what ever
But, SASD's members; Most of them is abusing, yes MOST and doing it ON DUTY
Very less that they r great officer and deserve the badge
For example:
Rory
Shawn17
and Martin I believe
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I think all SASD members should be cop banned.
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The only guy from SASD who should be kicked out is that prick who DMed me the other day, but I forgot his bloody name. If I see him ingame I'll remember and tell you.
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The other day I saw off-duty SASD members in black huntleys chasing down suspects...what was that about? :trust:
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The other day I saw off-duty SASD members in black huntleys chasing down suspects...what was that about? :trust:
Their new UC Division, [SASDODBTWAUC] San Andreas Sheriff's Department Off Duty but think we are under cover.
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Uzi = SMG :poke:
I believe:
It's depend on person that they are abusing or what, nothing link with division, subdivision, group, clan, what ever
But, SASD's members; Most of them is abusing, yes MOST and doing it ON DUTY
Very less that they r great officer and deserve the badge
For example:
Rory
Shawn17
and Martin I believe
Yeah, you know much about abusing cop rights, James..
Isn't that the reason of you getting banned from the ARPD until the end of July?
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Uzi = SMG :poke:
Seems you can't even tell apart TWO different guns..
I think all SASD members should be cop banned.
Not all but some do.
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Their new UC Division, [SASDODBTWAUC] San Andreas Sheriff's Department Off Duty but think we are under cover.
lawl @ [SASDODBTWAUC]
Yeah, you know much about abusing cop rights, James..
Isn't that the reason of you getting banned from the ARPD until the end of July?
For Breaking and Entering, which I don't know and was chilling with them
Seems you can't even tell apart TWO different guns..
Not all but some do.
Uzi a.k.a. Micro Uzi is Sub Machine Gun.
Sub Machine Gun (SMG) is type of weapon (such as Sniper Rifle, Assault Rifle, Heavy Machine Gun, etc.)
Still saying I can't tell apart ONE different gun?
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Yeah, you know much about abusing cop rights, James..
Isn't that the reason of you getting banned from the ARPD until the end of July?
At least he isn't server banned. Unlike some.
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Some SASD's members is abuser ON DUTY, disrespecting ON DUTY, disobeying order ON DUTY
But not for someone
Such as you, Rory
Don't be worry, make a form in ur division topic that report ur member. So someone can complain them and u can explain it.
None of them are cop banned :roll:
Report them, instead of moaning at the forum.
Peace out, Aksel left the building.
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Uzi a.k.a. Micro Uzi is Sub Machine Gun.
Sub Machine Gun (SMG) is type of weapon (such as Sniper Rifle, Assault Rifle, Heavy Machine Gun, etc.)
Still saying I can't tell apart ONE different gun?
UZI (Mac 10)
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/4b/Mac_m11_9k.jpg/300px-Mac_m11_9k.jpg)
SMG (Heckler & Koch MP5)
(http://www.scottsdalegunclub.com/mga/mgapics/mp5.jpg)
Now tell me James do these Guns look the Same? No they don't. Therefor how can they be ONE gun?
Assault Rifle (M4) / Sniper Rifle isn't a Sub-Machine gun either.
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UZI and MAC-10 is not the same gun.
UZI
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/4b/Mac_m11_9k.jpg/300px-Mac_m11_9k.jpg)
MAC-10
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/MAC10.jpg/300px-MAC10.jpg)
But back on the topic.
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You need to have UC rights to chase suspects Under cover. So dont just go off duty and think your an UC cop... The reason you need to Show your blue name when you open fire at a suspect. Or it will be considered as Dming. How do you do this off duty? So you can chase in UC you can traffic stop. But you cant shoot.
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Sorry for off-topic
Uzi, Mac-10, MP5, MP7, What ever else
ALL is SMG (Sub Machine Gun) is type of weapon!
Yes I know the Uzi and MP5 is different, but they r both SMG!!!
What a ... !@(*!@(!@!@!@*!@&(!@&!%@#
Back on topic
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UZI
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/4/4b/Mac_m11_9k.jpg/300px-Mac_m11_9k.jpg)
MAC-10
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/MAC10.jpg/300px-MAC10.jpg)
Both the pictures you posted are the same gun.. they are both Mac-10s.
This is an Uzi.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Uzi_1.jpg)
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Fail. Yes right Panda. :lol:
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And here's a Micro Uzi. :P
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/e/e3/MicroUziPistol02.jpg/400px-MicroUziPistol02.jpg)
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And here's an advice:
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3897/aaadod.png)
Plus, stop blaming every SASD member of abusing, the guy made the topic to warn people about their off-duty actions not being involved with SASD responsibilities, if you see SASD or any other ARPD member abusing their powers, use the ARPD forum and make a proper complaint.
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I think all SASD members should be cop banned.
Why? You didn't even give a reason. Is it because you're a Corleone, so you must hate cops because you deathmatch? Oh wait, nevermind, saying that would be just as bad as someone saying, "SASD Abuses," so I won't go that low. It's just you that DMs, that doesn't reflect your group at all because that's YOUR personality.
I bet you've never known what it's like to lead. I bet you don't know how much hard word, money, dedication, and effort I've put into this group to have people like you badmouth it and pray for it to get shut down, because you refuse to trust your reasoning. I refuse to accept this as I'm just one individual on a team making an effort, but people say I'm one of the best Officers right now in ARPD, I've never been complained against for abuse or illegal activities, yet I should be copbanned because I'm the leader of SASD, right?
The only guy from SASD who should be kicked out is that prick who DMed me the other day, but I forgot his bloody name. If I see him ingame I'll remember and tell you.
That'd be nice, I can't do anything to anyone in the group if I don't know about it. Just like real cops can't stop a crime they don't know is occuring.
The other day I saw off-duty SASD members in black huntleys chasing down suspects...what was that about? :trust:
The other day they were having a huge issue with doing activities off duty. That has been addressed, but again, off duty SASD is not responsible for their actions, and I can't tell them how to play on Argonath when they're not playing for me.
As for the UZI = SMG topic, anyone who knows guns well knows an UZI is an SMG. However, an UZI does not equal an SMG because it's just one type of an SMG.
Saying UZIs = SMG is the same thing as MP5 = SMG, however UZIs = SMG is not true.
We use MP5's on duty now, which is also a subtype SMG. Therefore, UZIs and MP5 are both SMGs, however two totally different types of weapons.
UZI = SMG
MP5 = SMG
UZI = SMG
MP5=UZI
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Let's see here.
I think all SASD members should be cop banned.
Funny you'd say that, Mister Corleone. Perhaps you should be banned for flaming?
(http://i42.tinypic.com/fvszk.png)
All credit to John_Milete for the screen shot
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i'd like to give my opinion about SASD.
For first at all, it's not easy manage a police group.
SASD is not a rulebreaking police group, you're wrong.
They have laws and rules in SASD.
Don't think they're random freecops that loves to kills criminals, they have good officers too.
SASD is a good police group, but people looks with bad eyes..
Well, it's a bullshit talk bad about SASD, because it isn't bad at all...
And people who talks bad about SASD?...
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Thanks Wayne, I really appreciate your compliments towards my team.
It's for the most part the regular players, mostly gang-related, go figure. Since it's got to the point of major complaints, formal admin referrals, and serious accusations, it needs to be stopped.
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And i forgot something else.
A group which flames another group can get a official warning.
So behave, everyone.
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Let's see here.
Funny you'd say that, Mister Corleone. Perhaps you should be banned for flaming?
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All credit to John_Milete for the screen shot
1) My name is Wash, not 'Mister Corleone'. Forums are OOC.
2) Surprises me how little you know about Argonath.. you can't get banned for simply calling someone an asshole. (It really makes me laugh how you think you are so experianced.. :evil: )
3) Yes, get me banned. >.>
And i forgot something else.
A group which flames another group can get a official warning.
So behave, everyone.
A member of a group which flames another group does not represent the whole group he is in. The ONLY person that represents a whole group is the leader.
So behave, everyone.
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2) Surprises me how little you know about Argonath.. you can't get banned for simply calling someone an asshole. (It really makes me laugh how you think you are so experianced.. )
Actually, I laugh at you for laughing at me for my "inexperience" - You CAN get banned for calling someone an asshole, it's been done before and can happen again - It's flaming.
A member of a group which flames another group does not represent the whole group he is in. The ONLY person that represents a whole group is the leader.
So behave, everyone.
I find it funny that you say this, because you flame SASD and call SASD Abusers. You just said the leader reflects the group, so why do you hate SASD by the way a few deputies act? I have never done anything wrong, much less to you. I don't even know you.
But, back on topic, this topic isn't about Wash, or flaming, it's about treating individuals as such, and police group members off duty. So let's leave it there... Apparently it's about SMGs and Uzi's, too.. :trust:
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SASD is an well organiced RP group who have alot of fun togethere. ALmost everyone on the server moaning and screaming at others they are bad RP, they are "assholes" and etc, what so ever if your an cop, criminal or citizen mainly, many are still moaning others.. Also alot of moaning can and should in my point of view be sorted in RP and not screaming over main chat, BUT people are to lazy to RP and sort it in an Role Play way so they moan in main chat and accuse admins for doing a bad job.
Keep up the good work SASD, you have my support, Everyone can go over the edge in end..
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Will you guys just drop it and stop arguing over a god damned game.
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Who said we were arguing? I'm actually trying to do just the opposite, to end this shenanigans.
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not a good name the the SASD it also means San Andreas Siecherheid Dienst.
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not a good name the the SASD it also means San Andreas Siecherheid Dienst.
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:lol:
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not a good name the the SASD it also means San Andreas Siecherheid Dienst.
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Nice way to warp the name around, perhaps I could mistaken that as a flame?
An abbreviation for ANY group can be turned into Anything.
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I am sueing Shawn_E reason look at my post and plus he thinks he outrank FBI
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I am sueing Shawn_E reason look at my post and plus he thinks he outrank FBI
Lawsuit fail. Pancher agreed that was correct Police protocol, and Shawn never stated that.